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    School of War – Nebulous Media

    In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war.

    Tune in as School of War takes you to the front lines.

    Aaron MacLean is a former senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.

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    Grading Operation Epic Fury, with Christian Brose May 19, 2026
    Show notes

    Christian Brose, president and chief strategy officer of Anduril Industries and author of The Kill Chain: Defending America in the Future of High-Tech Warfare, joins the show to help us evaluate American performance against Iran so far and discuss the state of defense innovation in America. What is on the cutting edge? Where are we falling behind? And what happens if the war comes home?


    Times:

    01:58 - Audit of Operation Epic Fury

    05:04 - Munitions and weapons shortages

    08:30 - New lower-cost weapons

    10:56 - The Barracuda cruise missile system

    15:04 - Lessons from the battlefield

    15:41 - Missile defense systems

    21:47 - Software, data, and AI

    24:39 - Homeland defense

    27:02 - Containerization

    28:05 - Industrial capacity

    31:36 - Bringing Americans back into defense manufacturing

    34:43 - The defense budget

    39:02 - Anduril fundraising

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    The New Middle Eastern Balance of Power, with Elliott Abrams May 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Elliott Abrams, senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and chairman of the Vandenberg Coalition and the Tikvah Fund, joins the show to discuss Israel, Iran, and the new power dynamics in the Middle East. What new alliances have emerged since the chaos on October 7, 2023? How has the current war with Iran reshaped the region? With a storm of competing interests, fragile partnerships, and global stakes, can stability emerge, or is the Middle East heading toward an even wider conflict?

    02:10 - Israel today

    04:02- Israeli airport security

    05:58 - Netanyahu’s domestic political situation

    09:07 - Bibi’s secret visit to the UAE

    10:15 - American military aircrafts in Israel

    12:01 - Israel-UAE relationship

    15:57- October 7th Middle East aftermath

    17:17 - Erosion of Iranian proxies

    19:20 - Israeli-Saudi relationship

    20:27 - Egypt’s global decline

    22:24 - Turkey’s role

    29:09 - Israel-Lebanon relationship

    28:30 - Hezbollah factor

    32:25 - How to handle Hamas

    36:31 - Iran and the future of the Strait of Hormuz

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    China’s War on Faith and Trump’s Trip to Beijing, with Governor Sam Brownback May 14, 2026
    Show notes

    Sam Brownback, former Kansas senator and governor, co-chair of the International Religious Freedom Summit, and author of China’s War on Faith, joins School of War to discuss the Chinese Communist Party’s persecution of religious minorities and how its domestic oppression shapes America’s broader strategic posture toward China. How is Beijing using the digital revolution as a tool of political control? Should freedom of religion be treated as a central front in the U.S.-China rivalry? With President Trump currently in China for a summit with President Xi Jinping, the world is watching a clash that extends beyond economics and military power into a conflict over faith, freedom, and the moral future of humanity.

    Times:

    03:25 - Trump’s China summit

    05:25 - Clash of civilizations

    06:18 - History of Christianity in China

    08:41 - Governor’s transformative past

    11:07- Systems of communism

    15:53 - Chinese surveillance technology

    17:22 - Peter Xu history

    19:40 - Dangers of the CCP

    20:53 - Treatment of religious minorities

    26:12 - Technologies for oppression

    29:00 - Trump’s handling of disentanglement

    32:25 - American religious freedom

    35:20 - The Falun Gong

    37:46 - Confrontation vs. accommodation

    42:59 - Story of Wang Chun Yan

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    Trump Heads to China: Who Has the Upper Hand? With Dan Blumenthal May 12, 2026
    Show notes

    Dan Blumenthal, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, joins the show to discuss the president’s upcoming summit in Beijing with President Xi Jinping. What are President Trump’s goals? How will war with Iran affect the meeting? And what do these discussions mean for the future of conflict in the Indo-Pacific?

    02:12 Trump’s summit with Xi Jinping

    03:38 Trump’s goals at summit

    04:48 China’s leverage over Iran

    05:57 China’s principal interest in the Middle East

    08:14 U.S. sanctions on Iran and China

    10:22 China’s diversified energy imports

    13:05 American-Chinese competition

    15:34 Defense industrial base issues

    16:03 AI factor

    16:34 China’s industrial leverage

    19:05 Economic showdown

    24:43 The Taiwan issue

    26:22 Global conflict lessons for Taiwan

    28:46 Division of Taiwanese politics

    31:46 Stakes for the future

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    America’s Coming Population Crash—and China’s, with Nicholas Eberstadt May 08, 2026
    Show notes

    Nicholas Eberstadt, the Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy at the American Enterprise Institute, joins School of War to discuss global population decline. What does a shrinking and aging population mean for the United States? What does it mean for China, whose demographic crisis may be even more severe? How could population decline reshape economic growth, military power, and geopolitical competition? And what happens to the international order when the world stops growing?


    03:02 Population decline in America

    006:15 Deaths exceeding births in the US

    07:31 Global birth crash

    14:49 Grounds for optimism

    17:12 Small family trend

    18:17 GDP relationship with population size

    19:23 Individual prosperity vs. National strength

    21:24 Rise in human life expectancy

    24:36 Ben Carson’s prediction

    27:11 Ukraine’s military revolution

    30:47 American bad habits

    33:48 AI and the labor market

    37:25 Chinese depopulation crisis

    48:50 What would a world war look like today?

    51:48 US Alliance relationships


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    Is Trump Forcing the Strait of Hormuz Open? With Rich Goldberg and Garrett Exner May 04, 2026
    Show notes

    Rich Goldberg, senior adviser at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, and Garrett Exner, adjunct fellow at Hudson Institute, return to School of War to discuss the complicated news out of the Strait of Hormuz. What is President Donald Trump’s new plan, “Project Freedom”? Does it put the ceasefire at risk? What’s really happening in this critical waterway?

    Times:

    02:31 - President’s statement

    04:00 - Understanding Project Freedom

    07:15 - Attacks against tankers

    09:53 - Central Command statement

    12:15 - Ceasefire breakdown

    16:25 - Coordination cell or escort

    18:00 - Trump buying time

    20:40 - US Navy escort option

    23:06 - Missile defense

    24:45 - Economic impacts

    27:01 - Iran under pressure

    31:50 - Live news US vessel transit

    34:15 - Human factor of outbound transit

    37:30 - American gas production

    39:28 - Predictions in America’s favor

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    NORAD and Protecting America From Nuclear Attack, With Lance Blythe May 01, 2026
    Show notes

    Lance R. Blyth, command historian of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM), joins School of War to discuss the evolution of North America’s air defense. How has NORAD adapted to shifting threats over the decades? Are today’s threats manageable? Are we in a new Cold War? And what can the command, with operations deep inside a Colorado mountain, teach us about defending the continent in an era of renewed great-power competition?

    Times:

    02:04 History of NORAD

    07:02 Threats of the 1950s

    13:50 Sensors, effectors, and connectors

    15:15 Semi-Automatic Ground Environment (SAGE)

    19:45 SABRE travel system

    21:14 Aerospace missile warning systems

    22:07 Cheyenne Mountain Complex

    24:13 NORAD in films

    27:56 False missile launches

    31:31 Adapting to new threats

    34:23 New joint surveillance system

    35:19 Importance of Canada

    36:21 September 11

    40:21 Operation Noble Eagle

    43:00 Today’s threats

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    The Attempt on Trump’s Life and Political Violence in America, with Douglas Murray Apr 27, 2026
    Show notes

    Douglas Murray, journalist and author of On Democracies and Death Cults, joins School of War to discuss the assassination attempt that we both witnessed in person at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner on Saturday. Was there a lapse in appropriate security? Is political violence being normalized? Can it be contained?

    Times:

    02:44 - White House Correspondents Dinner
    04:38 - Shots fired
    06:51 - Security at the dinner
    09:58 - Bobby Kennedy and Erika Kirk
    16:25 - Secret Service valor
    17:25 - Israeli security style
    19:42 - Trump’s ballroom
    21:35 - The shooter’s manifesto
    27:26 - Past American political violence
    29:13 - Assassinations can change history
    31:09 - Hitler comparison
    34:47 - Civic hygiene
    36:49 - Justifying violence on NYT podcast
    40:22 - Echoes of the Russian Revolution
    47:05 - Failure of the education system
    54:23 - The melding of the president and media

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    How the British Army Learned to Win, with Huw Davies Apr 24, 2026
    Show notes

    Huw Davies, an associate dean and professor of British military history at King’s College London and author of several books, including The Wandering Army, joins School of War to discuss what the 18th-century British Army can teach us about modern warfare. How does battlefield failure drive military innovation? How did institutions of the past respond to change? And in an era of drones, autonomy, and AI, have we learned from the past, or are we destined to repeat it?

    Times:

    02:40 18th century military enlightenment

    06:30 War of the Austrian Succession

    12:43 The British officer class

    18:39 Tension between ancients and moderns

    20:20 Discovering Sir Henry Clinton’s notebook

    20:48 False caricature of the British Army

    27:02 Challenges of North American warfare

    29:32 Battle of the Monongahela

    35:09 Importance of light infantry

    38:17 Rifle evolution

    39:00 Why armies resist change

    43:40 Lessons for today

    46:42 Human behavior in war

    47:10 Learning curve of war technologies

    49:11 Is Ukrainian drone warfare a turning point?

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    Has America Fought Well in the Iran War? With Mick Ryan Apr 21, 2026
    Show notes

    Major General Mick Ryan, Australian Army (retired), Senior Fellow for Military Studies at the Lowy Institute, adjunct fellow with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and author of the Futura Doctrina Substack joins the show to dissect the current state of the war in Iran. Is this conflict entering a postmortem phase, or are we still in the middle of it? How has America performed so far? How does this war connect to the Pacific theater? Are we adapting for a broader global conflict, and are our adversaries adapting as well?


    Times:

    002:20 Iran war impact on Australia

    05:06 American performance in this war

    06:22 Israeli partnership over NATO

    08:21 Strait of Hormuz closure

    13:07 Is the US prepared for a long-term war?

    15:50 Importance of AI

    18:17 Israeli performance

    18:55 Iran frustrating US objectives

    19:26 Lessons for Taiwan

    20:31 Does political decapitation work?

    22:41 How is the Axis learning from this conflict

    25:44 China’s interest in the Middle East

    29:04 Grim predictions of the road ahead

    30:40 Iranian hardliners

    31:16 Importance of getting the strait open

    34:29 Pilot rescue mission

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