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    School of War – Nebulous Media

    In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war.

    Tune in as School of War takes you to the front lines.

    Aaron MacLean is a former senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.

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    Ep 246: Veterans Day Special — Remembering Angus MacLean Nov 10, 2025
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    Host Aaron MacLean pays tribute to his father, World War Two and Vietnam Veteran Angus MacLean. This memorial originally ran in the publication Engelsberg Ideas.

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    Ep 245: Edward Luce on Zbigniew Brzezinski’s Twentieth Century Nov 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Edward Luce, U.S. national editor and columnist at the Financial Times and author of Zbig: The Life of Zbigniew Brzezinski, America's Great Power Prophet,joins the show to discuss one of the most interesting characters of the Cold War, Jimmy Carter’s national security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski.

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    00:00 The Life and Legacy of Zbigniew Brzezinski

    02:55 Carter's Foreign Policy and Brzezinski's Influence

    05:56 Contrasting Worldviews: Brzezinski vs. Kissinger

    08:52 The Formative Years: War and Identity

    11:35 The Cold War Landscape and Brzezinski's Rise

    14:34 Order vs. Justice: Diverging Philosophies

    17:55 Brzezinski's Strategic Vision for the Cold War

    20:57 The Vietnam War and Its Impact on Brzezinski

    23:47 Brzezinski's Approach to Foreign Policy

    28:35 The Rise of Jimmy Carter and the Trilateral Commission

    32:12 Carter's Foreign Policy Challenges: The Middle East and Iran

    37:15 Human Rights and the Shift from Nixon to Carter

    45:27 Reagan's Continuity and Change: A New Era in Foreign Policy

    51:19 The Iranian Revolution and Brzezinski's Legacy


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    Ep 244: Oren Cass on a Strategy of Reciprocity Nov 04, 2025
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    Oren Cass, founder and chief economist of American Compass and author of the article A Grand Strategy of Reciprocity for Foreign Affairs, joins the show to discuss how the United States should think about the current strategic moment.

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    00:01 Introduction to Free Markets and Trade

    00:43 Discussion on China and Global Strategy

    02:15 Historical Context of American Grand Strategy

    04:40 Assumptions about China

    07:40 Strategic Competition and Spheres of Influence

    10:00 Economic Decoupling and Its Challenges

    13:30 Relationships with Other Countries

    16:00 Concept of Reciprocity in Alliances

    20:00 US-Mexico-Canada Relations and Global Implications

    25:00 The Role of the Trump Administration

    30:00 Future of Global Alliances

    35:00 Economic and Security Strategies

    40:00 Conclusion and Final Thought

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    Ep 243: Alexander Mikaberidze on Russia’s Failed Battle with Turkey… in 1809 Oct 31, 2025
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    Alexander Mikaberidze, Professor of History at LSU Shreveport and contributor to An Unavoidable Evil: Siege Warfare in the Age of Napoleon (From Reason to Revolution 1721-1815), joins the show to discuss the siege of Brăila and the lessons of the Russo-Ottoman War of 1806-1812.

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    00:00 The Shifting Balance of Power in the Black Sea

    02:00 Siege Warfare in the Age of Napoleon

    04:09 Decisive Battles vs. Positional Warfare

    08:30 The Evolution of Strategy: 18th to 19th Century

    14:16 The Debate on Siege Tactics in the Russian Military

    21:27 Kutuzov's Strategic Evolution

    25:26 Geopolitical Context: Russia and the Ottoman Empire's Rivalry

    31:31 The Siege of Brăila: A Military Catastrophe

    38:39 The Cost of War: Casualties and Consequences

    50:40 Lessons in Military Culture: Accountability and Adaptation


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    Ep 243: Joshua S. Treviño—Is Trump After Regime Change in Venezuela? Oct 28, 2025
    Show notes

    Joshua S. Treviño, Chief Transformation Officer at the Texas Public Policy Foundation and senior advisor at the America First Policy Institute, joins the show to discuss the Trump administration’s military strikes on seaborne cartel traffic and its strategy in the Western Hemisphere.

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    00:00 Understanding U.S. Military Strategy in Venezuela

    02:26 The State-Cartel Synthesis: A New Paradigm

    05:30 The Role of the U.S. Military in Drug Interdiction

    08:39 Legal Framework and Controversies Surrounding Military Actions

    11:46 The Broader Implications of Regime Change

    14:26 Divisions on the Right: Perspectives on Foreign Policy

    21:50 The Strategic Implications of Military Action Against Maduro

    30:19 Assessing the Venezuelan Opposition's Readiness

    33:53 Colombia's Evolving Relationship with the U.S.

    37:00 The Complex Dynamics of U.S.-Mexico Relations

    41:55 The Threat of Cartels and Their Impact on U.S. Society


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    Ep 242: Michael Sobolik on On Donald Trump’s Trade War with China Oct 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Michael Sobolik, senior fellow at Hudson Instituteand author of Countering China’s Great Game: A Strategy for American Dominance, joins the show to discuss the current state of relations between the U.S. and China as Xi Jinping and Donald Trump are scheduled to meet in South Korea next week.

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    00:00 The Broader Competition: US-China Relations

    02:51 Trump's Trade Strategy: A Historical Perspective

    09:35 China's Strategic Objectives: Beyond Economics

    14:16 Xi Jinping's Goals: The Summit Agenda

    18:20 Export Controls: A New Era of Trade Tensions

    22:36 The Stakes of No Deal: Economic and Strategic Implications

    26:35 Decoupling from China: Challenges and Opportunities

    33:05 Defining a Good Deal: Beyond Trade

    37:22 TikTok: The Information Warfare Front


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    Ep 241: Julian Jackson on Nazi-Occupied France and Pétain Oct 21, 2025
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    Julian Jackson, Emeritus Professor of Modern French History at Queen Mary University of Londonand author of France on Trial: The Case of Marshal Pétain, joins the show to discuss the rise and fall of “the Lion of Verdun”; Philippe Pétain.

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    01:06 Introduction

    01:53 How Pétain became the “Hero of France” in WW1

    11:32 France sues for peace with Germany in 1940

    18:52 The legality of the armistice

    27:49 Churchill’s take on the armistice

    33:48 What Was Vichy France?

    41:43 Vichy’s treatment of the Jews

    53:05 Distancing France from extermination

    58:13 Why does Pétain stay a servant to the Nazis

    01:07:38 Vichy and Pétain on trial today

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    Ep 240: Lance R. Blyth on Mountain Warfare Oct 17, 2025
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    Lance R. Blyth, command historian at the North American Aerospace Defense Command and author of Ski, Climb, Fight: The 10th Mountain Division and the Rise of Mountain Warfare, joins the show to discuss the history and tactics of fighting at altitude.

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    • 01:31 Introduction

    • 01:41 Marine

    • 04:55 L.A. riots

    • 07:22 From horses to skis

    • 10:13 Antecedents

    • 13:56 Advantage

    • 15:40 The Germans

    • 17:55 The Winter War

    • 22:51 French surrender

    • 25:58 Specialized divisions

    • 31:37 Volunteers

    • 33:49 Training

    • 36:50 Delay and Italy

    • 42:16 No doctrine

    • 45:29 The Gothic Line

    • 52:00 Success

    • 55:35 Afghanistan


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    Ep 239: Charles C. Mann on How the System Works Oct 14, 2025
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    Charles C. Mann, author of “How the System Works” in The New Atlantis, joins the show to discuss the complexity and vulnerability of the hidden processes that sustain human life on our planet.

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    • 01:49 Introduction

    • 02:31 Interconnected

    • 05:43 Medical care

    • 09:20 Feeding humanity

    • 11:56 Three advances

    • 20:42 Water

    • 26:34 Energy

    • 36:05 Keeping pace

    • 38:35 Hurdles

    • 41:12 Solutions

    • 45:26 Public health

    • 56:38 Concerns

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    Ep 238: James Titterton on Medieval Deception Oct 10, 2025
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    James Titterton, historian and author of Deception in Medieval Warfare: Trickery and Cunning in the Central Middle Ages, joins the show to discuss strategies and stratagems in the age of castles and knights.

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    • 01:29 Introduction

    • 02:18 High Middle Ages

    • 09:03 Oathbreakers

    • 12:01 Sources

    • 16:21 Doctrine

    • 22:07 Bribery

    • 31:23 Spies and feints

    • 39:26 Plausibility

    • 42:19 Professionals


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