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    Claire Fallon and Emma Gray obsessively analyze our cultural obsessions, from fashion trends to books to the buzziest TV shows.

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    [PREVIEW] 'RHOSLC' Season 4 Was A Detective Story For The Ages Jan 22, 2024
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    Just when you thought “The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City” would never be able to top the moment when federal agents tried to arrest Jen Shah during filming, the season 4 finale raised the bar to the heavens, delivering a finale as shocking and suspenseful as a scripted thriller.

    In the final episode, a classic Real Housewives girls’ trip dinner turns into a “Knives Out”-style showdown as the matriarch of the show, Heather Gay, dropped a stunning revelation: a member of their friend group had previously run an anonymous gossip Instagram account that targeted the women of “RHOSLC” with vicious rumors.

    Still reeling from the dramatic conclusion to this season, we asked Bravo expert and fellow Substacker Gibson Johns of Gibsonoma to join the pod this week to help us understand how this finale came together, where it stands in the Real Housewives franchise canon, and what is likely to happen next. Together, we walk through the essential threads of season 4 that led to this mindblowing conclusion, discuss some of the standout moments and characters from the season, ponder the implications of this unusual scandal for the franchise, and break down some of the literary and cinematic tropes this episode (and season as a whole) are playing with. Hope you enjoy! xo

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    [PREVIEW] When Your Fertility Journey Is Taboo Jan 15, 2024
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    Content warning: We will be discussing infertility and IVF during this episode. If those topics are sensitive for you right now, we totally understand. Feel free to skip this week’s episode. Take care of yourselves, first and foremost.

    When Sami Jacobson decided to start trying to have a baby, she was 33, and, anxieties assuaged by a doctor friend, she figured, “it’ll just happen.” But then… it didn’t.

    Now, at 37, she and her husband are in the middle of one of the least-discussed fertility interventions — something that New York Magazine termed “the last fertility taboo” back in April: egg donor-assisted IVF.

    According to the CDC, about 12 percent of all IVF cycles in the U.S. involve donor eggs. For the uninitiated, this means that eggs are retrieved from the donor (the same process as egg freezing) and fertilized with sperm to create embryos, which are then transferred to the expectant parent or gestational carrier’s uterus. It seems inevitable that these fertility interventions will only continue to increase in popularity, as technology improves and as women continue to have fewer children later in life. And yet, it’s not a subject you hear widely discussed — even as the topics of fertility and IVF have become commonplace on social media.

    When Sami and her husband Mike were first advised that this was a route they may need to go in order to start a family, Sami looked around for stories like hers. And though they existed, they were few and far between. She barely had any friends who had required any kind of IVF, let alone donor-assisted.

    “This shift was incredibly hard for me to metabolize,” Sami told us, “and it was the first time I felt this, like, sense of being kind of broken.”

    Something core to the mission of this newsletter is creating a community where women’s lived experiences are taken seriously. In that spirit, we wanted to dig into Sami’s personal experience — the practical steps she’s had to take, the emotional journey she’s been on, and the ethical considerations she and her husband have had to grapple with. We also wanted to zoom out and talk about what the relative silence surrounding donor-assisted IVF is all about, especially when it comes to cisgender women in heterosexual relationships.

    It was a deeply emotional conversation, but also a joyful one. Biggest thanks to Sami for having such a vulnerable, honest, complex discussion with us. And thanks in advance to this community for creating a safe space for her to do so. Hope you enjoy listening to this episode. Xo

    More to read and listen to about donor-assisted IVF:

    • “Biohacked: Family Secrets” podcast

    • “The Last Fertility Taboo” by Rina Raphael, The Cut

    • The landmark University of Cambridge study we reference

    • “Building Your Family” podcast

    • “Let's Talk About Egg Donation: Real Stories from Real People,”by Marna Gatlin and Carole Lieberwilkins Mft

    • We Are Donor Conceived

    You can find our previous Maybe Baby episodes here. Xo

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    [PREVIEW] 'May December' Is A Melodramatic Mirror World Jan 08, 2024
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    This week, we finally got around to discussing the movie everyone has been talking about: “May December,” a film “loosely inspired” by the Mary Kay Letourneau-Vili case. Directed by Todd Haynes and written by Samy Burch and Alex Mechanik, it stars Natalie Portman as Elizabeth Berry, an actress researching her role playing Gracie Atherton, a woman who became a tabloid celebrity in the ‘90s after being caught statutorily raping a 13-year-old boy who worked for her at a pet store. It’s now over 20 years later; Gracie (Julianne Moore) and the boy in question, Joe Yoo (Charles Melton), are married and soon will be sending their youngest children off to college. Elizabeth spends time with the family and gets to know their social circle in hopes of bringing something true to her performance as Gracie — a genuine insight into her psyche or the trauma that created her. Instead, boundaries get blurred, shaking the foundations of Gracie and Joe’s family.

    On the podcast, we get into the gender and racial politics of the film and of how the Letourneau story was portrayed in the media at the time. We also discuss the movie’s melodramatic flourishes and daring mixture of winking humor and lurid psychodrama, the subtleties of Melton’s and Portman’s performances, and how the movie implicates the audience and artists who remain fascinated by these sensational stories.

    After we recorded, a Hollywood Reporter interview with Vili Fualaau dropped in which he lashed out at “May December,” saying he is “offended by the entire project.” He also said, “If they had reached out to me, we could have worked together on a masterpiece. Instead, they chose to do a ripoff of my original story.” We did not have a chance to discuss this new turn in the public conversation around the movie, but it reframes two important elements of the movie that we did discuss: one, the way the movie examines how Joe has been repeatedly exploited — by his now-wife, then by the media, and now by Elizabeth, as she tries to mine him for details and experiences — and two, the movie’s fundamental critique of artists who try to collaborate with real-life subjects in order to evoke something true about a tabloid story like this one. Through the former lens, Fualaau’s reaction makes the movie seem like a failure on its own terms; through the latter, it’s clear that the filmmakers would never have considered “collaborating” with a real-life subject. In fact, the movie is largely about how artistically pointless and even harmful this approach would be.

    Perhaps “May December” did exploit Fualaau’s story, despite all the tinkering with the superficial details of the story. Even with different names and locations, different numbers of children, different jobs, it’s undeniable that the movie lifts headlines and tabloid spreads, even an entire exchange from an interview with the couple. But the fictionalization also doesn’t seem like a fig leaf to give them some plausible deniability that it’s a biopic. Instead, the filmmakers clearly wish to make a movie that isn’t really about Fualaau and Letourneau, but about certain ideas that are provoked by considering a case like theirs. That doesn’t mean it can’t cause pain to the original victim — pain that is very valid. That pain also doesn’t mean that it was the obligation of the filmmakers was to put him in a collaborative position; they had their own, very distinct artistic project in mind.

    Ultimately, as with the original movie, the whole affair leaves us feeling uncomfortable and implicated. Where does our thirst for the sensational details of a tabloid scandal ever lead us, except deeper into complicity?

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    [PREVIEW] 'FBoy Island,' Katie Thurston Edition Dec 18, 2023
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    FBoy? F, Hi. Again!

    After being unceremoniously axed by MAX in 2022, our favorite, innovative reality dating show has made a moderately triumphant comeback. “FBoy Island,” a show from the creative brain of former “Bachelor” EP Elan Gale, just wrapped up its third season on The CW, and boy do we have thoughts.

    First, there’s the good. We’ve been “FBoy Island” devotees since its first season in 2021. Instead of prioritizing constructed drama, “FBoy Island” prioritizes comedy and narrative. Comedian Nikki Glaser is back as the host (thank god!), and this season remained full of cheeky moments — moments that make you feel like the cast is all in on the joke, rather than the butt of it.

    Season 3 also gives us a new archetype of the leading lady in Katie Thurston, the former Bachelorette who never seemed to quite fit into the typical box occupied by reality dating show stars. (And we mean that in the very best of ways.) Most women who are cast on “FBoy Island” are unknowns in the reality TV world with a lengthy history of dating FBoys. Katie is the exact opposite: already famous, and very much into Nice Guys. No man is too corny for our gal Katie. It was a delight to watch a lead take such a different path this season, and fun to see Katie come back to reality TV decidedly more relaxed and self-assured.

    And yet… some of the magic was definitely lost as the show moved from a cable streaming service over to a network. We lost some of the racier jokes, the format got more streamlined, and most tragically, we stopped following the men once they got eliminated. Instead of an FBoy rehabilitation program in Limbro, we got… nothing. The arcs of those eliminated characters just ended. In short, it felt more like any other episodic reality dating show, whereas before it felt like watching one long carefully crafted movie that encompassed a whole world.

    At the end of the day, we’d rather have a slightly neutered “FBoy Island” than no “FBoy Island” at all, but we’ll always miss the magic of those first two glorious seasons.

    We get into all of this and more during this week’s episode. Hope you enjoy! Xo

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    [PREVIEW] 'Best. Christmas. Ever!' Is One Of Netflix's Worst Holiday Flicks Yet Dec 11, 2023
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    The holidays are here at last, and one thing Netflix guarantees us during this magical time is a Christmas-themed chick flick starring one to three early aughts icons. The plot? Thin as a single snowflake. The message? Don’t stop believin’ (in Santa).

    “Best. Christmas. Ever!” wraps this whole package up in a shiny bow: Brandy Norwood, Heather Graham, and Jason Biggs star alongside Matt Cedeño in a flimsily plotted and produced movie about the importance of holiday family newsletters. Brandy (she needs no other name) plays Jackie, a glamorous and successful entrepreneur and mom whose annual Christmas letter broadcasts her family’s eye-popping accomplishments to all “friends, family, and fellow Earth dwellers.” Heather Graham plays her old friend Charlotte, who is persistently disappointed in her own career, kids, husband, and lifestyle — and who finds the annual reminders of her erstwhile buddy’s success infuriating. Somehow, Charlotte and her family wind up on Jackie’s doorstep just a few days before Christmas, hijinks ensue, and lessons about Christmas and friendship are learned. The plot twists get weirder and more upsetting as the movie winds toward its surprisingly bizarre conclusion. Brandy and Graham appear to be acting in entirely different kinds of projects, “acting” being a fairly generous term.

    We discuss every absurd detail in this week’s pod. Hope this helps you get in the holiday mood! xo

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    [PREVIEW] A Long Overdue Catch-Up Dec 04, 2023
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    Over the four months that Claire was on maternity leave, a whole lot happened, both in our lives, and in the greater cultural sphere. So we figured it would be a good opportunity to catch up,

    An entire, absolutely deranged season of “Love Is Blind” aired! Charity Lawson found love with Dotun Olubeko on “The Bachelorette,” and “The Golden Bachelor” premiered! (Claire is still recovering from the tragedy of not being able to share every last one of her feelings about Lydia and Milton, Uche, and J.P.’s emotional support flag.)

    On a more personal note, Claire had a whole baby! A super cute one! And she experienced all the attendant joys and stressors that accompany that big life change. Emma spent these last few months keeping our business running, and have a lot of fun experimenting with the content we produce on this platform.

    In this episode, we discuss all of these things. Hope you enjoy! Xo

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    [PREVIEW] 'Selling Sunset' 7 Belongs to Chrishell Nov 20, 2023
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    This week on the pod — Claire’s first official week back from maternity leave! — we dig into the latest season of the Netflix show about the Oppenheim Group, a luxury L.A. real estate brokerage where maternity leave is grounds for removal.

    Back in the fantasia of Calacatta marble countertops and glass pocket doors that is the Los Angeles luxury real estate market, our gals are still clacking around sporting 6-inch heels and physics-defying underboob, convincing sickeningly wealthy people to invest their money in mansions they don’t need. Chrishell is blissfully solidifying her relationship with Aussie rockstar G-Flip; Mary and Romain are hoping for a baby; Jason is hoping to keep dating 20-somethings who don’t want kids yet and don’t mind that he’s still hopelessly in love with Chrishell; Brett is hoping Jason can figure out a way to renovate an office space without going $500k over budget; all of the agents are quaking with fear at the new mansion tax set to go into effect in Los Angeles.

    There’s drama, of course — mostly the gang is trying to resolve a handful of feuds still lingering from last season. Bre and Chelsea are, inconceivably, still absorbed in a mutual standoff over some blandly critical comments that Chelsea made early last season about Bre’s partner Nick Cannon, whose hobby is having babies with various women. Chrishell and Nicole’s mutual loathing is exacerbated to a truly astonishing degree by another fairly bland comment (that Chrishell’s bestie Emma is a “social climber”). As Mary checks out, Amanza tries rather ineptly to play peacemaker. Jason and Brett respond to a severe slowing of the high-end real estate market in the city by opening a much larger office on Sunset, complete with a $1.5 million renovation.

    We dug into as much of this action-packed season and reunion as we could cram into a taping. Plus, we discussed Chrishell’s unstoppable rise to complete “Selling Sunset” supremacy; the depthless perfidy of the Oppenheim twins; and the much-vilified mansion tax, which was enacted to fund programs for ameliorating homelessness in L.A. Hope you enjoy!

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    [PREVIEW] A Candid Chat About Love In Your 30s Nov 13, 2023
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    There is a particular pleasure in listening to other people give relationship advice. This is why I keep podcasts “Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel” and “Dear Shandy,” — shout out to our brilliant friends Sharleen Joynt and Andy Levine! — in my regular listening rotation, and can’t get enough of reading Heather Havrilesky’s Ask Polly and Alexandra Hayes Robinson’s Hello Hayes columns.

    It’s delicious to hear people discuss sticky, subjective situations — ones that so many of us find ourselves in and out of throughout our lives.

    A few months back, when Claire had just started maternity leave, I asked our Instagram audience what sort of things they’d be interested in hearing me discuss with guest hosts, and a bunch of people expressed interest in a conversation about love, sex and dating in your 30s. Since we’re deep into “Golden Bachelor” and “Bachelor In Paradise” over on Love To See It, I was itching to podcast about something other than reality TV.

    And I couldn’t think of a better person to have this conversation with than Kate Hutchison, my friend of more than a decade — we’ve seen each other through YEARS of bad dating and then some good dating — who is also the author of the Cusk Brooklyn newsletter here on Substack. We talked about the joys of being single, the difference between dating in your 20s and 30s, what it looks like to ponder your desire for marriage and kids, and more.

    As always, take any “advice” we give here as coming from our own lived experiences, not as prescriptive in any way. Hope you enjoy! Xo

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    [PREVIEW] In Britney Spears' Memoir, She's Still Searching Oct 30, 2023
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    As a girl in the late ‘90s and early aughts, few figures loomed larger than Britney Spears.

    She was IT. Her blonde waves, her sugary sweet voice, her sexy-but-virginal winking public image, she represented an ideal I knew I was supposed to strive for and also knew I’d fail to achieve. I choreographed dances to “…Baby One More Time” in my best friend’s room, tying our shirts up in knots in a paltry simulacrum of the sexy schoolgirl outfits Spears and her dancers wear in the music video. I resented her and I revered her all at once.

    And then, over the years… she morphed into something else: a cautionary tale. Her very public mental health struggles (and that infamous head-shaving incident) made her a prime target for public ridicule and dismissal.

    We all know now that neither version of Spears — the ideal or the cautionary tale — were accurate portrayals of who she really was or is today. As Spears herself acknowledges in her new memoir, “The Woman In Me,” which came out last week, she didn’t know how to play the fame game — at least not well — and she was torn apart in the media (and by those closest to her) as a result.

    By the time she was put under conservatorship — a legal designation which kept her working without any control over her life, her money, or her body — she was such an object of pity that it barely occurred to any of us to question it.

    “If they’d let me live my life, I know I would’ve followed my heart and come out of this the right way and worked it out,” Spears writes in her memoir. “Thirteen years went by with me feeling like a shadow of myself. I think back now on my father and his associates having control over my body and my money for that long and it makes me feel sick.”

    “The Woman In Me,” written by Spears alongside journalist Sam Lansky, and narrated by Academy Award-winning actress Michelle Williams, is illuminating, heart-wrenching and also feels thin on details at times. Spears’ pain is apparent throughout, and though she does her best to find lessons in her experiences, it’s clear that she’s still in the muck. It’s a tall order to find meaning and make sense of it all, when she was only released from her conservatorship in 2021. Regardless, it’s a book worth reading.

    In this podcast, author Alison Greenberg joins me to discuss our overall feelings about “The Woman In Me,” its themes, what we want for Spears in the future, and the lingering questions this memoir leaves us to contemplate. Hope you enjoy!

    **Also, it’s worth watching the 2003 Diane Sawyer interview Spears speaks about in her book. I’m struck by how poised she is throughout the whole thing — funny, honest, restrained, eloquent, emotional. Here it is in full:

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    [PREVIEW] 'Love Is Blind' 5 Gave Us Marriage And Mess Oct 17, 2023
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    Houston, we had a problem. We continued to have problems. The problems spun out far beyond our TVs — like this lawsuit — and now the problems have ended. That’s right, baby, “Love Is Blind” season 5 has come to a whimpering end.

    We got two weddings, one double “I Do,” and a shockingly calm and mature reunion episode. (Raise your virtual hand if you were SO relieved that Vanessa didn’t pressure anyone to have a baby.)

    It also became abundantly clear who the real hero of the season was: Milton, our resident 24-year-old who loves metamorphic rocks and also Lydia. Our BFF for life.

    Laura and I dug into the finale and reunion episodes in this recap, and gave our final friends/enemies assessments. Hope you enjoy! Xo

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