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Ever wonder what it’s like to go on your first sober date? Or survive a wedding without liquid courage? How about dancing stone-cold sober or dealing with your first breakup without wine?

If so, you’re in luck because you can join bestselling authors and longtime sober friends Lisa Smith and Anna David as they talk to guests—and each other—about addiction and recovery, including all the “firsts” that come with sober living. From awkward to amazing, cringe-worthy to surprisingly poignant, they’re discussing what it’s like to experience life without substances.

Lisa is the author of the award-winning memoir Girl Walks Out of a Bar, while Anna wrote Party Girl, a comic novel about addiction and recovery in the vein of Rachel’s Holiday and Postcards From the Edge. Together, they explore the real-life moments behind the kinds of stories that shape how people understand recovery.

Whether you’re newly sober, sober-curious or just want to hear some honest stories about recovery, Recovery Rocks is here for all of it.

Because as it turns out, when you can remember everything that happened, life gets a lot more interesting.

New episodes weekly. Real stories, real recovery, real talk.

Latest Episodes:

Throwback Thursday: Laura House and the Naked Houseboat Disaster Jun 25, 2026

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Before she became a successful TV writer and meditation teacher, Laura House was getting drunk on a barely floating houseboat filled with naked Texans, animal-print speedos and enough beer to sink the thing entirely.

In this Thursday Throwback from Anna’s original Recover Girl podcast, Laura tells the unbelievable true story of a Fourth of July weekend spent partying on “Naked Island,” a floating hillbilly paradise created by one of her most gloriously chaotic friends. The story involves houseboat debauchery, accidental nudity, Texas-sized drinking and eventually…court.

Laura is one of the funniest people alive and this episode is a perfect reminder of why these old Recover Girl stories deserved a second life.

(REBROADCAST) Sober Firsts: Sex Jun 19, 2026

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We'll be back to our regularly scheduled programming next week, but here's a rebroadcast of one of the first episodes since Anna joined the show.

Let’s get straight to it. Sober sex for the first time is a big deal! Some of us had never even done it before. We talk about our experiences – from what we were told to what we expected, and what it was actually like. Lisa had an eventful trip to Utah and Anna, well, let’s just say she ignored all that advice about not dating for the first year.

Throwback Thursday: John Taylor on Fame, Cocaine and the 14-Year-Old Boy Still Running the Show Jun 18, 2026

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Before Recovery Rocks, Anna hosted Recover Girl, where conversations about addiction often turned into surprisingly deep discussions about ego, identity, fear and why nobody actually feels like a real adult. This Thursday Throwback features John Taylor of Duran Duran—yes, that John Taylor in the flesh.

John talks about becoming a global pop star almost overnight, still living in his childhood bedroom after Rio became a massive hit and slowly realizing that alcohol and cocaine had become stronger than he was. He opens up about addiction, shame, resentment, celebrity, Catholicism, recovery and the strange reality that even successful adults are often still wrestling with younger versions of themselves.

The conversation covers everything from partying through Duran Duran’s peak fame to why 12-step programs helped him stop blaming everyone else for his problems — and why most people have no idea how much work sobriety actually requires.

If you’ve ever been hungry like the wolf to know John Taylor better, this is a can’t miss.

Sobriety, Sunsets and System Regulation with Kristin Horstman Jun 12, 2026

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Lisa chats with Kristin Horstman, whose new podcast, Sunsets Are the New Happy Hour, is a neuroscience-informed discussion of sobriety and behavioral changes that can make a positive impact. Come for the chat on rewiring your nervous system. Stay for the sunsets and glimmers.

Throwback Thursday: Moby on Why AA Makes Smart People Uncomfortable Jun 11, 2026

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Before Recovery Rocks, Anna hosted Recover Girl, where conversations about addiction and recovery were less “before-and-after success story” and more “let’s unpack the human condition for 45 minutes.” This Thursday Throwback features musician Moby in one of the most thoughtful recovery conversations we’ve ever aired.

Moby talks about getting sober at 22 after years of chaotic drinking and drug use, throwing legendary degenerate parties in New York, relapsing after eight years of “insufferably sober” Christianity and eventually realizing AA wasn’t just a clubhouse for drunks — it was a spiritual program.

The conversation goes everywhere: anonymity, ego, relapse, judgment, fear, God, hangovers in your 40s, why intelligent people resist AA and why two glasses of wine with dinner sounds completely pointless to a real alcoholic.

Basically: if you’ve ever rolled your eyes at recovery clichés while secretly needing them anyway, this episode is for you.

What if I Pass Out on This Stage? (Sober Firsts) Jun 05, 2026

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Fear of public speaking commonly ranks among the world’s top phobias.

And why shouldn’t it? Standing in front of room full of eager eyes waiting to hear something brilliant can be terrifying.

We both learned how to speak in front of others in 12-step meetings. Today, Lisa worries about being hit with a panic attack on stage (it’s happened before), while Anna panics about the memorization.

We also get into this week’s Petty Resentment. How do you feel about a stranger tapping you?

Sober Women, Jealous and Petty Thoughts May 29, 2026

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Despite being so grateful for our sober lives, we still experience jealousy over big things (friends
with great adult kids) and little ones (another author going viral). The difference is that we now
have the tools to handle it gracefully…most of the time.
Also, welcome to our new segment, Petty Resentments! First up: Why are we pressured to tip on
what are essentially medical procedures?

He Shared a Cell with a Murderer. Now He Helps People Recover. May 22, 2026

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Before Brad McLeod became one of recovery’s most inspiring voices, he survived an almost unbelievable series of hardships—including childhood instability, extreme isolation as a teen, addiction, incarceration and briefly sharing a jail cell with a murderer.

Now he’s the founder of Sober Motivation and helps people around the world stay sober through honesty, storytelling and connection. This conversation answers the question: how does someone survive the unsurvivable?

Alysse Bryson on Building a Sober Pop Culture Empire May 15, 2026

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The Sober Curator (thesobercurator.com) is the place to find all things sober pop culture and more. It has you covered on book, movie, music, and TV reviews, sober travel and events, gift guides, and other tips for living your best sober life. We talked all about it with our friend Alysse Bryson, the Sober Curator herself, who created the site for fellow pop culture, fashion, and entertain junkies, who happen not to drink. Subscribe to the newsletter and watch for the upcoming membership club, “Backstage with the Sober Curator.” It will have special live sessions and content. We’ll be there!

Sober Firsts: Milestone Birthdays and Why Aging in Recovery is Just…Weird May 08, 2026

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You know the birthdays, the ones with a zero at the end? Hitting our first ones in sobriety added a new dimension to the milestones. Lisa couldn’t believe she made it her 40th birthday and wishes she’d kept contributing to her 401(K) before that. Anna turned 30 a month after going to rehab and 50 in the midst of the pandemic. Despite the challenges, in the end we realized there’s always a reason to celebrate.

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