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    Recovery Elevator

    It’s not a NO to alcohol — it’s a YES to a better life!
    Bestselling author Paul Churchill interviews people who have successfully quit drinking, offering an honest, uplifting look at what an alcohol-free life can really look like. Each week, Recovery Elevator explores sobriety from fresh perspectives — no judgment, no lectures, just real stories from real people.
    Whether you’re sober curious, newly sober, supporting a loved one, or already thriving in recovery, you’ve found your community.

    Topics include: how to stop drinking alcohol, alcohol addiction and dependency, whether moderate drinking actually works, what happens to your brain when you quit drinking, the role of spirituality in recovery, whether AA is right for you, tracking sobriety milestones, and whether addiction might be trying to tell you something.

    If alcohol is making you sick and tired, Recovery Elevator is your invitation to explore what life on the other side looks like — through candid conversations and inspiring guest stories.

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    RE 79: Alcohol and Relaxing | What Really Happens Aug 22, 2016
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    Today we have Randy, with 124 days of sobriety. This is how he quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Ponder this. We have been conditioned to think that alcohol is relaxing. Now, cue the visions of a Corona commercial; a couple on the beach, kicking back beer after beer… In fact this notion of "relaxation" has the exact opposite effect on our bodies. Alcohol actually slows down your brain's function, affecting two neurotransmitters, Glutamate and GABA. Glutamate is an excitatory neurotransmitter that is released by nerve cells in the brain. It is responsible for sending signals between nerve cells, and under normal conditions it plays an important role in learning and memory. When we consume alcohol, Glutamate production slows W-A-Y down, completely bogging down your brain's neuro-highways. GABA, is an inhibitory neurotransmitter that reduces energy and slows down brain activity. Alcohol increases GABA productions…. Folks, that is just not a good thing. This process starts instantly after just one drink… And stays with you long after you stop drinking…

    Jason Vale's book : Kick the Drink...Easily!

    SHOW NOTES

    [ 07:34 ] Paul Introduces Randy

    Randy has been sober for 124 days (using the sobriety tracker). "It feels great, every day is a new experience." Randy is from the East Coast (grew up in RI) and made his way around the world in the Air Force. Randy found his career through the military. Randy now works in aviation with the FAA in Guam, U.S.A. Randy is a hardcore cyclist, with a renewed passion for pedaling.

    [ 11:29 ] What was your elevator like? What was your bottom?

    "I'd been a lifelong drinker and never thought that I would have a problem, I thought drinking to some degree was healthy…" Randy made all kinds of "plans"… a 30-day sober binge, operating in moderation, writing, using apps, etc… "IT DID NOT WORK!"… "I have that switch, once you turn it on, it doesn't really turn itself off…"

    In preparation for his daughter's baby shower, Randy noticed that he went through a 6-pack within an hour… He quickly opened up the next 6-pack and shortly thereafter found himself drinking a bottle of wine… "The next morning I'm completely useless, I wasn't there, I wasn't available…" The shower happened and the next day I thought to myself, "I don't want to do this anymore, that continuous vicious cycle."

    [ 26:30 ] Randy speaks about his clarity and peace of mind being sober.

    [ 26:59 ] What does your recovery portfolio look like today? Walk me through a day in the life of Randy.

    "It's staying engaged with the process and the journey of sobriety. I think about alcohol multiple times throughout the day, and then I just have to let it go…" "Yeah, yeah, there's the beer (commenting on the coolers full of beer @ Kmart)," says Randy. "Just noticing these thoughts and letting them go, constantly reminding myself why I'm doing this. Cafe RE is the strongest network that I have. I've been to one meeting (AA), and it was a candlelight vigil. I just haven't found myself showing up at meetings, just not yet anyways."

    [ 36:02 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "The day that I ran my own sailboat on the ground. I haven't shared this with too many people, I nearly lost my boat that day and it was absolutely alcohol related. I was boating under the influence and couldn't execute all of the steps necessary to avoid the reef."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "Oh many! The sailboat ride where I had my hand in the cooler for 8 hours was one for sure…"
    3. What is your plan moving forward? "More of the same. Reminding myself of all of the positive things that have come from leaving alcohol behind. And, living my life! Just knowing that I don't have to have a drink to experience things."
    4. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Listening to yourself. If it doesn't feel right to you, then it probably isn't okay."
    5. What parting piece of guidance can you give to our listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "Just to be honest with yourself. If you wake up with that heavy feeling like you've gotta take action, do it. Don't beat yourself up, listen to yourself and take it one day at a time."
    6. What brand of boat shoes would you recommend? "If you've got a boat, you don't need shoes… unless you've got a staff…" You've got listen to really get it!
    QUOTABLES

    "Enough is enough. I was tired of waking up with that dull, heavy feeling in the mornings." - Randy

    "I've got to take this one day at a time." - Randy

    "If you're a real boater, you don't need shoes." - Paul

    "Maintain a clean deck." - Randy

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up. WE can do this!"

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    RE 78: What I've learned about the Stigma Surrounding Alcohol Aug 15, 2016
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    Today we have Annie has been sober for 2 years. This is how she quit. She never thought twice about her drinking because she didn't know enough about it. Annie started journaling about her drinking habits as an exploration in March of 2013 which enabled her to stop drinking in December of 2013. Annie is from Colorado and works in marketing. She is married with children and loves the outdoors (hiking, skiing).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    [ 02:08 ] When did your Elevator hit its bottom? When did you finally decide to stop drinking?

    Annie was living in London when her Elevator hit bottom the first time. Annie and her family were going to the London Eye (an amusement park) and she had decided it was a good idea to bring in two large beers, packed in her purse, to sip on. "I dropped my purse and the beers exploded, spraying beer all over my children and my parents." "I had a 'What the fuck has happened, what am I doing?' moment right then." On another trip, Annie was traveling all over the world for work, she comments, "You'd take off on the airplane and get drunk, and then I'd justify having drinks in the lounge… I was pretty much existing on coffee and alcohol. I realized that I had to get back into regular mommy life. I just remember sitting there thinking, Whoa, what is this?'"

    [ 04:27 ] Talk to me about your drinking habits?

    "The plans are my worst enemy! As soon as you start to try to stop something, it becomes even more tempting. It's like putting yourself on a diet." Annie had all sorts of ideas/plans: no drinking until 5pm, only having 2 glasses of wine (but after two she didn't care how many more she consumed), trying to have a sober day... "I remember finding an excuse every single day to drink. I was driving myself further and further into separateness and defensiveness."

    [ 06:31 ] How did you make the change (into sobriety)?

    "I didn't seek help. I just didn't know any better. I didn't know what I didn't know (referring to all the resources out there). I had a different kind of 'talking-to' with myself one day in the Heathrow airport, I decided to give myself permission to write about this, to explore this in a mindful way." Dr. John Sarno's work really inspired Annie to dive deeper into understanding her need to drink.

    [ 09:59 ] What was it like?

    Annie's research took her on a journey for 8-9 months. "I was still drinking during the research, but by the time I stopped, I had made peace with it. On an emotional level, I felt free." "It was like being sick to save my life for about a month. There were a lot of tears and a lot of laughter and joy."

    [ 13:23 ] This Naked Mind - Control Alcohol by Annie Grace

    Paul lets the Cat out of the Bag (meow!) - Annie Grace wrote, "This Naked Mind - Control Alcohol". It is a MUST read for recovery.

    [ 14:40 ] What was the push back like after writing a book that wasn't based on AA?

    "I questioned the word 'alcoholic' because in my research, any organism can become addicted to something. I took issue with this because we are all built with flesh, blood, bones, and cells… We are all the same. The word 'alcoholic' is really a solace for people."

    [ 20:12 ] Annie talks about the Hedonic Threshold and the fact that alcohol is just plain addictive.

    [ 25:17 ] What is the difference between the conscious and the unconscious mind?

    Annie speaks wholeheartedly about protecting her unconscious mind and understanding the need to have self-compassion, self-worth and acceptance in this process.

    [ 31:15 ] Annie's Projects

    This Naked Mind - Control Alcohol is available on Amazon. She is also working on a second book that focuses on the first few years of her sobriety, highlighting techniques she used to maintain a clean and naked mind and keep the garbage out. Annie is also putting together a video-based course complete with worksheets and exercises that she hopes to launch this Fall (2016).

    [ 32:12 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? [ 32:20 ] "Not having the memories. I don't remember moving day and moving days are supposed to be special. I lost that day."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? [ 32:52 ] "I had a lot of those. They were all at 3AM when I'd wake up and couldn't remember how much I'd drank the night before."
    3. What's your plan in sobriety moving forward? [ 33:10 ] "Continuously protecting my unconscious mind, continuously asking "why" and "what."
    4. What is your favorite resource in recovery? [ 33:33 ] "Ten minutes of watching my breath every single day."
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? [ 34:11 ] "It's more about living than it is about sobriety. Living alcohol free and living your life."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give to our listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? [ 34:56 ] "Right now, in this moment, FORGIVE YOURSELF. Realize that you've been caught in an addictive trap. The sooner you can get to a place of acceptance and love yourself through this, opens the journey to becoming sober."
    QUOTABLES

    "There are so many people who are heavy drinkers, who don't believe they are alcoholics, because we use it (the word 'alcoholic') as a shield to defend our addiction." - Annie Grace

    "Shame, guilt and self-loathing just don't work. We need understanding, acceptance and love." - Annie Grace

    "Acceptance is the answer." - Paul

    "As soon as you start to try to stop something, it becomes even more tempting. It's like putting yourself on a diet." - Annie Grace

    Resources Mentioned in this Episode

    Connect with Annie - https://thisnakedmind.com/annie-grace/

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    RE 77: I Would Have Missed This Aug 08, 2016
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    Today we have Westin, with over 3 years of sobriety. This is how he quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Some of my best memories are those of camping with my family in Southern Utah. Camping growing up used to consist of fishing, catching lizards and snakes, watching the sunrise and sunsets.

    It was a simple and joyous time that I spent with my family. These are fond memories. But, somewhere along the line, my camping experiences diminished, the joy of spending time in nature was replaced with Hot Dogs, Booze and Passing Out.

    Last weekend, I was camping with Ben (my partner in crime, my four-footed friend), we had called it a night and crawled into the back of my truck in the woods of Montana. Now, these are real woods, mountain lions, grizzlies, etc. Nature is not to be taken for granted around here. Suddenly, around 2am, I awoke to Ben's perked ears and sounds of snapping branches. The sounds grew louder as whatever was roaming the woods got closer… I reached for my headlamp… And...

    GOATS! Rocky Mountain Goats, a herd of them… Now, if I had been camping with Hot Dogs and Booze I would have been PASSED OUT (probably face down in a pile of biting red ants at that!) and would never have experienced this beauty, this joy. The Goats brought me out of the truck where I was then able to see the expansiveness of the sky and the stars and experience the cooling sensations of the pine trees. Nothing needed to change. I didn't need to drink a Keystone Light or 50 of them…

    I am now getting back my memories and creating new memories that are more than just a party. Memories such as this that fill me up with satisfaction, connection, and awe.

    AND NOW… onto the podcast!

    SHOW NOTES

    Paul Introduces Westin

    Westin is from Indianapolis, Indiana. He is 33, has been married for 7 years, and has an amazing little girl who is turning 4 in September. "She is the most important thing in my life alongside my sobriety." Westin works at an addiction treatment center as a "Recovery Coach."

    How long have you been sober?

    Westin has been sober for 2 years and 363 days, he is 2 days away from 3 years of sobriety! "Right now I'm in a place where I have to count days again. I'm in a weird place where I just have to count." says Westin on his sobriety.

    When did you realize it was time to quit drinking?

    "My bottom was 3 years ago almost to the date. I woke up face down on my Mom's couch, not knowing how I got there, and not knowing what happened over the past 24 hours. I was highly addicted to Klonopin and drinking on top of them. I looked up from the couch and just saw this look of utter disappointment on my Mom's face. It was different. I had unknowingly gone through her medicine cabinet the night before, and found all sorts of pills in my pockets."

    What were your drinking habits?

    "I was a blackout drinker from the age of 17. I was never trying to control it, I thought it was normal. I was proud of the amount of alcohol I could consume…" "But, I was physically addicted to it… Always struggling with anxiety and shaking. I couldn't function without that first drink, and then the pills took over."

    What does it mean, when you're back to counting the days?

    In the early days of sobriety Westin was counting: 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, 1-year sober… Getting those next tokens, proving to himself that he could do this. "I needed the external motivation. From 2-years sober to just now I didn't count, I didn't need to, but now, I'm back to counting the individual days. I've been referencing my sobriety tracker, and just trying to get through each day. It's not a comfortable feeling."

    The whole 'God' word in AA. That one word kept you from getting sober… Expand on that.

    Westin discusses his "religious" philosophy and how he made AA work as an agnostic. Westin had been agnostic (without knowledge, an individual who does not claim to say whether God exists or does not exist) most of his life. AA taught Westin to own his agnosticism, his belief system. "I'm now more comfortable being honest and open with who I am, and AA taught me this. I found a way to make my beliefs, or lack thereof, work within the framework of AA." The gift of desperation allowed Westin to take what works and leave the rest…

    How did you do it? (on getting sober)

    Westin went to a treatment center, Fairbanks Hospital in Indianapolis. "I looked at my wife and said, I think I need some help with this."… "We tried to do a walk in, but like a good addict I had just finished the rest of my klonopin refill (half of the prescription), so I had to wait. I went through a 7-day long detox and then a 6-week intensive outpatient treatment."

    What emotions did you feel?

    "I had anxiety through the roof. Drinking brought about terrible, terrible anxiety… But now, I didn't have my self medicating procedures in place. I had to face it. My anxiety was peaked out for 6 months. Drinking was not an option." "That was my first time going into treatment, I had been looking for a solution, and I just kept doing all the things that were recommended to me. I still struggle with social anxiety. I still can't attend a basketball game or a big social event…"

    What is your recovery portfolio like today?

    "My recovery is inspired by my work, surrounded by people who are on this same journey. I don't want to be that guy who is physically in shambles and I get to see that every day. I attend a minimum of 2-3 meetings a week. If I'm struggling, I hit the meetings hard." Westin takes a holistic approach that includes: AA and the 12 steps, eating better, daily physical exercise, and alone time…

    Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "Waking up with the shakes, just yelling out in pain with the convulsion I was feeling in my body."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "In retrospect, yes. I was drinking at my Mom's house, everyone else had gone to bed and I'm up taking shots by myself… She comes downstairs and gives me that look like, "What is wrong with you?!" I was past the point of control."
    3. What is your plan moving forward? "Continue moving forward one day at a time, continue being teachable, and sharing my experiences with others."
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? "Meetings are really, really important along with interactions with recovery podcasts - Recovered Podcast & Beyond Belief - and the recovery community."
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Take what works and leave the rest."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give to our listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "If I can find a way to make this work, then literally anybody can. Anybody can find a way to make it for them."
    QUOTABLES

    "I need to get plugged-in, connected back to my recovery network." - Paul (on being in a recovery rut)

    "Take what works, and leave the rest." - Westin

    You might be an alcoholic if…

    "You continue to drink once everybody else has been asleep for hours."

    "If you are still thirsty at 2am in the morning."

    Resources Mentioned in this Episode

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    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 76: The Conscious and Unconscious Mind Aug 01, 2016
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    Today we have Simon, with 15 years of sobriety, shares how he did. Three years ago, Simon started the Hope Rehab Center in Thailand and has been helping people change transform their lives.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    The Conscious and the unconscious mind. I recently read the book "This Naked Mind - Control Alcohol" by Annie Grace and the chapter covering the how the brain worked was fascinating.

    Conscious: Aware of something, knowing that something exists or is happening.

    Unconscious: The part of the mind a person is not aware of but is a powerful force in controlling behavior.

    Consciousness: Being aware of something within oneself. The upper level of mental life that a person is aware of as contrasted with unconscious process.

    Warning: This may blow your mind...

    • The unconscious mind is responsible for desires
    • Studies show, we have two separate thinking systems. The conscious mind, and the unconscious mind
    • When we want something to change in our life, we usually make a conscious decision. However, drinking is no longer a conscious decision.
    • The unconscious mind doesn't get the memo
    • Unconscious learning happens automatically and unintentionally
    • We are conditioned to think drinking enhances our lives and makes us happy
    • This is why when we want to drink less, our unconscious mind tells us to drink more. Insert major dilemma here.
    • We have been conditioned to believe in alcohol. To believe that me and some random captain would make it happen.
    • The unconscious mind is not logical. It's comprised of feelings, observations. It's the source of love, jealousy, fear, kindness and sadness.
    • When a person makes a decision to quit drinking alcohol, their unconscious mind is never in on that conversation. Gary, pull up a chair.
    • Studies dating back to the 1970's indicate our unconscious mind makes 1/3 of a second fast than our conscious mind.
    • The unconscious mind controls the emotions. When someone tells yourself to stop having a bad day, that never works. But over time, this positive reinforcement can work.
    • Liminal thinking, which we will get to in later podcast episodes, is how will cover how to converse with the unconscious mind.
    • The unconscious mind is formed by beliefs, conclusions, assumptions, experiences and observations. Often time, it is far separated from reality which is where the conscious mind lives.
    • Our culture of drinking makes everything better has been ingrained into our unconscious mind without us ever knowing. One easy way to challenge this, which we often never do, is look for external validity. For example, the bud light makes you a better beach volleyball player. Go to a beach and try to find a real life example if this. It won't happen.
    • We let the unconscious mind determine our thinking because we like certainty. In the conscious mind, there is so much unknown and that is always scary. The unconscious mind is a bubble of safety where we feel comfortable.
    • Why did I find it so hard to quit drinking? Well, I knew I wouldn't have a good time at a social event sober, I knew I wasn't funny, I knew I wouldn't be able to chat with girls. I never stood a chance at quitting drinking unless a pain point was strong enough, aka, the bottom.
    • We can address this by bringing unconscious experiences, observations, assumptions and conclusions, into conscious thought. We do this through knowledge.
    • Before we drank alcohol, we were happy joyous and free, we didn't miss it.
    • The Author Terry Pratchett says, we need to be able to at any time, accept that fact that we all could be absolute and utterly wrong.

    RE 75: I'm Breaking Up With The Word Alcoholic Jul 25, 2016
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    Today we have Paul, with 18.5 months of sobriety. This is how he quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    That's right, I'm breaking up with the word alcoholic and opting for a simpler less defining answer of I don't drink.

    I got the idea for this podcast after reading the following article and I hope you like the show notes. As you can probably tell, I've had some recent help with show notes since mine leave much to still be desired.

    COUNT ME OUT OF "RECOVERY NATION" - NEGATIVE SELF-IDENTITY IS THE CRUELEST STIGMA

    (Stanton Peele: July 7th, 2016)

    1. The labels "alcoholic", "addicts", and "in recovery" dehumanizes people, both for the person

    themselves and their children.

    -Influence contributor, Meghan Ralston, wrote in her article (I'm Breaking Up With the Word

    Addict),

    Agree - "Even in a chaotic stage of drug use, we are not "other." We are women, we are someone's daughter, we continue to laugh, we continue to like jazz and cheeseburgers and comfy pajamas. We cry, we get so lonely, we hate sitting in traffic. Addiction can be wretched, no question, but we do not ever stop being human beings, even during the times in our lives when we are dependent on drugs."

    Disagree - "For many people, myself included, the word "addict" is incredibly harmful and offensive. You do not have my permission to call me an addict. You can of course refer to yourself as an addict, if you wish."[1]

    1. Don't refer to yourself as an "addict."

    -It's depressing

    -No one should highlight/define themselves by their worst trait or period in

    their life.

    1. These concepts arose in conversation between Dr. Peele and Talk Recovery Radio:

    "Dr. Stanton Peele was today's thought provoking live guest on Talk Recovery.… our show is meant to be a platform where all pathways to recovery are welcomed to be discussed… But today, that almost didn't happen. There was an 'us and them' feel to the show… Why do people feel the word addict is stigmatizing?"[2]

    -Peele explains that the host seemed to feel that he was part of a movement

    that set people recovering apart from everyone else.

    -Culture seems to encourage this separation.

    -public policies

    -celebrities' confessionals

    -treatment circles

    -recovery high schools

    -etc.

    -Show host ironically wonders why there's a stigma towards addicts while he himself labels

    himself as one.

    1. Peele refuses to label himself by marching with Recovery Nation, a group that lets themselves be lead

    by their labels.

    -"Thinking of yourself as an alcoholic causes you to behave the way you think alcoholics

    behave."

    -To quote Peele and Ilse Thompson,

    "You are not your addiction; you are a valuable human being whose qualities endure and exceed your addiction. … It's impossible to expect a person to achieve wellness by focusing on his or her faults and mistakes. Perhaps this is why conventional recovery asserts that people must remain 'in recovery' forever and continue to identify themselves as addicts, no matter how long they are sober."[3]

    -Today people seem to expect labeling. Peele states,

    "Imagine a child with a learning difficulty looking at you and saying, 'I am retarded,' or 'I am stupid.' We would cry and hug them and tell them that wasn't true!"

    -Peele goes on to pose the question of why it is that people always discourage each other from

    identifying themselves by their problems or illnesses, except when it comes to addiction.

    -While debating former head of treatment at Hazelden, Peele asked how he short-circuited his family

    heritage.

    -While the clinician had a cynically humorous answer, Peele gave his answer for the man to the

    radio show hosts. The method to preventing his children from taking on addictive traits was to

    raise them in emotionally and financially stable home, encourage them, provide for them, and

    allow them to be who they want to be.

    -What doesn't help children, is to burden them with the "destiny" that they would most likely be

    an alcoholic.

    -The "tough love" approach often comes in too late, Peele says.

    -Before a child can misbehave during drug use, you ought to instill him with morals of

    responsibility to themselves and others.

    -Peele is reframing addiction in an opposite direction from the "disease" mindset. He puts it like this:

    "Addiction is not a consequence of taking drugs and drinking. Rather, it arises from the way in which these and other compelling activities fit into people's lives and meanings."

    -To end the interview, Peele asked how the show host quit smoking cigarettes.

    -His response was that his recovery program didn't allow it, but also that it didn't allow him to

    call himself a cigarette addict. Rather, they insisted on the generic term addict.

    -He then was able to quit smoking (one of the hardest substance addictions) without patches.

    This was because it didn't address smoking, or label them as cigarette smokers.

    FOR COPYRIGHT PURPOSES

    All content read here has been cited appropriately. The content is based majorly from the article written by Doctor Stanton Peele: Count Me Out of "Recovery Nation" - Negative Self-Identity Is the Cruelest Stigma of All. For original sources, please consult the bibliography located below.

    BIBLIOGRAPHY

    1. Peele, Stanton Dr. "Count Me Out of 'Recovery Nation': Negative Self-Identity Is the Cruelest Stigma of All." The Influence (blog), July 7, 2016. Accessed July 14, 2016.http://theinfluence.org/count-me-out-of-recovery-nation-negative-self-identity-is-the-cruelest-stigma-of-all/.
    1. Peele, Stanton. Recover! An Empowering Program to Help You Stop Thinking Like an Addict and Reclaim Your Life. Boston, MA: Da Capo Press, 2015.
    1. Talk Recovery. "Interview with Doctor Stanton Peele (Facebook Post)." World Addiction Treatment Expert Dr. Stanton Peele | Last Door(blog), June 30, 2016. Accessed July 14, 2016.https://www.lastdoor.org/world-addiction-treatment-expert-dr-stanton-peele/.

    4.Ralston, Meghan. "I'm Breaking up with the Word 'addict' and i Hope You'll Do the Same." The Huffington Post (March 25, 2014): 1. Accessed July 14, 2016.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/meghan-ralston/breaking-up-with-the-word-addict_b_5028999.html.

    [1] Meghan Ralston, "I'm Breaking up with the Word 'addict' and I Hope You'll Do the Same," The Huffington Post (March 25, 2014): 1, accessed July 14, 2016,http://www.huffingtonpost.com/meghan-ralston/breaking-up-with-the-word-addict_b_5028999.html.

    [2] Talk Recovery, "Interview with Doctor Stanton Peele (Facebook Post)," World Addiction Treatment Expert Dr. Stanton Peele | Last Door (blog), June 30, 2016, accessed July 14, 2016, https://www.lastdoor.org/world-addiction-treatment-expert-dr-stanton-peele/.

    [3] Stanton Peele, Recover! An Empowering Program to Help You Stop Thinking Like an Addict and Reclaim Your Life (Boston, MA: Da Capo Press, 2015).


    RE 74: 50 Ways To Stay Sober This Summer Jul 18, 2016
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    Today we have Ronnie, with 25 years of sobriety. This is how he quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    We also discuss 50 ways to stay sober this summer.

    Ronnie Marmo

    Ronnie got sober a few times throughout his life, once at age 17 and again at age 20. At age 20, he found himself smoking crack on the sidewalk after 3 years of sobriety… One drink of alcohol was his gateway drug.

    Ronnie's background:

    Lives in L.A. and works as an actor and director, running two theater companies. Check out 68 Theatre Company. Ronnie is 45 and married with a dear family… For more information on Ronnie and his work - ronniemarmo.com.

    Take us back to age 20...

    Was that your bottom?

    For me, "I was out of control ever since I started drinking. I always drank and got high in the same way. I was never a social drinker, I had no interest in drinking socially."

    It went something like this - one gallon of vodka, one quart of Yukon Jack, and then I found myself waking up at a sober picnic. My sponsor asked me if I was humble enough… I said yes, and went back to rehab for the 3rd time.

    What is it like being sober in your industry?

    It's like anything, many people are sober, once you start talking "our" language. Those who do drink and get high, it's never an issue, but I tend to gravitate towards people who are sober.

    Let's talk rules: Did you ever try to put rules into place?

    "I thought alcohol was a problem, but I didn't think it was my biggest problem. I constantly negotiated with myself. Normal people don't hide bottles. Normal people don't wake up needing a drink."

    People have gone on retreats and think that anxiety is the issue, or depression is the issues, when underneath it is really the alcohol.

    Literally, every day of my life I spent my day trying to figure out how to get more booze.

    Do you remember your first intensive rehab?

    "I hadn't even seen the STEPS on the wall!"

    Now, I have a healthy fear of booze.

    Talk to me more about this healthy fear, I'm terrified of this stuff…

    When I look at it, it's rare that I glorify a drink. When I see booze, I get nervous. If I ever take a second to glorify it. I immediately think I could destroy my life. It happens quickly.

    That thought is so fleeting, it's not even an option.

    Bill W. and Dr. Bob:

    http://theatre68.com/

    Playing in north Hollywood, CA

    Soon to star in the movie, Back in the Day.

    Walk me through a day in your sobriety:

    I don't go to as many meetings as I should, but I never miss my Wednesday home meeting.

    If I do these things daily:

    • Give thanks
    • Reach out to a newcomer
    • Walk with love and grace
    • Attend a meeting

    If I don't do these things, life is just harder...

    What are your thoughts on relapse:

    It's a weird disease because you have to self-diagnose it. It's 2:30 in L.A. right now, if I had a drink right now, I'd be smoking crack by 7:30pm… Relapse doesn't have to happen, but if it does, hopefully you can choose sobriety again quickly.

    What would you say to your younger Ronnie:

    "The sooner you can get past being so dependent on the drink or the drug the sooner you can get on with your life, doing what you really want to do."

    "No matter where you go or what you do, drink a lot of water and walk slow."

    What's still on your bucketlist:

    • Doing what I love
    • Helping others
    • Shoot a movie in Italy for a summer...

    All these items are attainable with sobriety.

    Rapid Fire Round:

    1.What was your worst memory from drinking?

    Stealing my mother's pocket book.

    2.Did you ever have an oh-shit moment?

    I had a spiritual awakening in the courtroom, asking the judge for help. The things that came out of my mouth were nothing that I had intended to say when I walked in.

    3.What is your plan for sobriety moving forward?

    Keep showing up and trying to be graceful, reaching out to others, and trying my best on a daily basis to stay with a formula that works. Keeping it super simple!

    1. Favorite resources?

    Meetings

    1. Best advice you've ever received?

    Drink a lot of water and walk slow

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give?

    If you are thinking about it (getting sober) and it's on your mind, there's a really good chance that you should be doing it. Give it a really strong 90 days.

    "You might be an alcoholic if…"

    You might be an alcoholic if you steal from someone you love just to get a drink or a drug.

    You might be an alcoholic if after 2 years of sobriety you take a drink and later you end up smoking crack.

    Connect with Ronnie:

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ronnie.marmo

    Twitter: @Ronniemo22

    50 Ways to stay sober this summer

    1. Wear sun screen – Lots of sunscreen
    2. La Croix Soda water. Drink lots of soda water
    3. Enjoy time in a hot tub / spring or sauna
    4. Beach trip: The small stream behind your neighbor's house even has a beach
    5. Movie Day: The Anonymous People
    6. Scroll through your phone contacts and call someone you did wrong in the past. Don't tell them what they did wrong, but what you did wrong
    7. Binge watch old TV episodes: Prefably not Mad Men, they drink like fish
    8. Yoga / Meditation
    9. Create a new sober drink concoction. Watermelon and milk is one I stumbled upon
    10. Do that fitness thing: Biking, swimming, whiffle ball, golf etc.
    11. Join a Book Club that actually reads the book
    12. Adopt-A-Pet, dog, cat, gecko
    13. Think of the most pressing issue in your life right now… and then write down what your part of it is.
    14. Go to a museum
    15. Pinterest - find new recipes or a DIY project on Diypete.com
    16. Google Mindfulness and what that really means
    17. Buy a new car; one that you have never drank in
    18. Learn how to shoot a bow and arrow
    19. Find something like Jolly Ranchers to subside cravings
    20. Build a pergola or Sauna at your house
    21. Gauge your emotional sobriety (in the future) by purposefully removing the staples out of your stapler
    22. Volunteer – be of service (This is a big one)
    23. Acceptance is the answer - period
    24. Take a look in the mirror and observe what you see. Get REal with yourself
    25. New Hobbies- Painting / Coloring
    26. Travel - take photos of you wearing your RE shirt
    27. Fundraise for the Recovery Elevator trip to Peru in April 2017
    28. Go to an outing wearing a shirt that says something like "sober as shit" so no one offers you a drink
    29. Listen to the RE Podcast episode 52 – one of my favorites
    30. Play a good natured joke someone
    31. Pay for the person's order behind you – Regardless of what line you find yourself in
    32. Attend a 12 step meeting on the other side of town that speaks a different language
    33. Enjoy NA Drinks such as a virgin a piña colada
    34. Announce to the world you're an Alcoholic via facebook and become accountable – the results will pleasantly surprise you
    35. Read page 471 in the big blue book: daily
    36. Once again, tell yourself acceptance is the answer
    37. Put your forehead on a baseball bat, spin around 15 times, and give the person closest to you a hug
    38. Google CBT - Charlie Beta Typhoid
    39. Jump rope – I've never heard of a relapse while jump roping
    40. We all know someone who should probably think about giving the bottle a rest. Invite them to Dairy Queen for their lunch specials from 11:30pm - 2pm and then take them to an AA meeting. They will most likely thank you later
    41. Water balloon fight - freezing balloons the night before is optional
    42. Watch the movie dodgeball with Ben Stiller, and then watch it again
    43. Third Eye Blind – All of it - #bestbandever
    44. Check out your local events calendar and go to an event you're not interested in attending
    45. Laser Tag
    46. Take a sober road trip with another sober buddy of at least 100 miles each way. On your way, stop and say hello to me in Bozeman MT
    47. Get flowers or a gift card for someone you absolutely cannot stand to be around
    48. Ask yourself if you're where you want to be in life at this very moment. If the answer is now, ask yourself if you're willing to something about it
    49. Sunscreen – wear Lots of sunscreen
    50. Go get a natural high – sky diving, jump off the high dive at the local pool, go carts etc.
    51. Don't Drink

    Let me know at info@recoveryelevator.com how many of these you tried this summer!


    RE 73: The Drunken Founding Fathers Jul 11, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Barb, with 15 days of sobriety. This is how she quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    I got the idea for today's podcast from an article sent to me from a dear friend that was in the Lush. Fitting publication eh?


    RE 72: Helping Others is the Key To Getting Sober Jul 04, 2016
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    Today we have Ty, who has been sober since March 2008. This is how she quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    I want to give a huge personal thank you to Ty for helping me with the Recovery Elevator podcast. I can't do any of this alone. Thank you Ty.

    Also in this episode I interview Jesse from My Sober Roommate.


    RE71: Alcoholism and Addiction is a Disease and I Shouldn't Still be Talking About it. Jun 27, 2016
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    Today we have Kevin, who has been in remission from alcohol for 13 years. This is how he quit. Today he shares his story and why he created We Face it Together.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.


    RE 70: Kellie, at 8 months sobriety, Realized She Didn't Know Who She Was, and She Was Fine With That. Jun 20, 2016
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    Today we have Kellie, with 2 years of sobriety. This is how she quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Kellie has been part of the Recovery Elevator podcast since the beginning. She was written blog posts, helped line up interviewees and helps with social media.


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