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    Recovery Elevator

    It’s not a NO to alcohol — it’s a YES to a better life!
    Bestselling author Paul Churchill interviews people who have successfully quit drinking, offering an honest, uplifting look at what an alcohol-free life can really look like. Each week, Recovery Elevator explores sobriety from fresh perspectives — no judgment, no lectures, just real stories from real people.
    Whether you’re sober curious, newly sober, supporting a loved one, or already thriving in recovery, you’ve found your community.

    Topics include: how to stop drinking alcohol, alcohol addiction and dependency, whether moderate drinking actually works, what happens to your brain when you quit drinking, the role of spirituality in recovery, whether AA is right for you, tracking sobriety milestones, and whether addiction might be trying to tell you something.

    If alcohol is making you sick and tired, Recovery Elevator is your invitation to explore what life on the other side looks like — through candid conversations and inspiring guest stories.

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    RE 89: Rehab vs No Rehab and Success Rates? Oct 31, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Zach, who has been sober for 3.5 years... This is his story… Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE. SHOW NOTES

    "You gotta get through it to get to it..." Open your eyes and start to notice those around you. Often, you'll find others who don't drink. Talk to them, discover why they don't drink... Some of these people quit for religious reasons, some for health, and others for personal reasons. Some are able to just quit on the spot, others not so much. Yeah, not all of us are so lucky to just suddenly decide to quit drinking... These individuals who do own up to their problems and the fortunes in their life. They take ownership. There are tons of studies highlighting different stats on sobriety (check out the links in the show notes below).

    [ 10:53 ] Paul introduces Zach.

    Zach has twin boys and has been sober for 3.5 years, his last drink was March 9th (4 years ago) at about 3am. Zach is 27, and born and raised in a small city just North of the Atlanta area. He has been married for two years. By day Zach is a marketer and by night he is a self-proclaimed beat-boxer for his kids.

    [ 13:28 ] Talk to us about your Elevator. What led up to you quitting drinking?

    "I quit 1,000 times in my own head... It's a revolving circle." Zach started drinking when he was about 12 years old, when he had about 3 Budweisers and remembered waking up in the pool. "I remember at that point wanting to make my life all about drinking." Zach continued to drink all through high school... Zach got expelled from school for the last half of his senior year due to drinking. "That's kind of where I kick-started my 'drinking career'." Zach was 19 when he got his second arrest due to drinking and had to spend 30 days in jail. This was the first time when Zach thought, "Ok, this is me, this is alcohol."

    [ 18:25 ] What were your drinking habits like?

    The second Zach got out of jail he found a Bud Ice in a friend's fridge and was at the bar that night, still underage. Zach usually took Mondays and Tuesdays off... In his early 20s it shifted to needing a drink to feel calm. "I started buying airplane bottles of rum. I was living with my girlfriend at the time and she knew I drank often, but I would drink all day long when she was gone and then pop a beer open when she came home in the evening, acting like it was my first drink."

    [ 21:31 ] Did you ever try to moderate?

    "I'd kick liquor away and just focus on beer. I'd binge drink real hard on the weekends. Right at the end of 22 I started diving into other substances... I got into meth and then I didn't have to drink. Once I made that leap I felt really defeated." Zach's own father introduced him to meth. (Unfortunately, his dad is still walking that story.) Thankfully, Zach didn't get addicted to meth and was able to back off of that substance, which let the drinking pick back up.

    [ 25:02 ] Alcohol is an extremely addictive substance. How do you feel about that?

    "I completely agree. It was like relearning to walk and talk (on choosing sobriety). Everything used to spike my interest in drinking... It's so highly addictive."

    [ 26:36 ] Zach talks about his father and living with a family of addictive patterns.

    [ 28:56 ] How did you do it? Talk to us about how you got sober.

    "It was just an ordinary night... I got home at about 3am. I had to crawl through the window because I couldn't find my keys. I slept in 'til about 10am and awoke to missed calls from my girlfriend..." Zach had missed her Crossfit competition, something that was extremely important to her. "It was like the 10th time I had missed something. She was broken... Mentally, I couldn't tell another lie. I was exhausted." When she came home later Zach broke down and asked for help.

    Those first few months were tough. "I was trying to fit in, I was not answering any phone calls. I was rationalizing it... I was white-knuckling it for about 2 mos. I was just a dry drunk..." Zach ended up at an AA meeting on his way to the liquor store... He was blown away by the diversity of the room and yet everyone was telling 'his' story. Zach discovered his first glance of hope at this AA meeting. "You can have a better lifestyle, a better life."

    [ 35:23 ] Zach talks about getting a sponsor and working his program. Buddy, from RE #67, became Zach's sponsor.

    [ 37:53 ] How do you stay sober today?

    "I try to get up earlier than my kids so I can read... If I meet with Buddy we go through the step work, the stories or just kick it and drink some coffee... I try to hit 3 meetings a week, it allows me to share. It helps me hold myself accountable. I'm involved in a non-profit, Orphan Aid Liberia. Humility has been a big word in my recovery... Now, I can actually look outward and give back."

    [ 41:23 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "Blue light. Anything to do with a cop."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "Woke up one morning, my head was hurting so bad and I couldn't find a bottle opener to open a Corona, so I smashed the bottle on the counter to get a drink."
    3. What's your plan moving forward? "To do daily amends, doing the next right thing day after day and just trying to give back."
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? "Besides Buddy, is having AA to fellowship with."
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Let go or get dragged."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "There's nothing quite like the experience of sobriety... Sobriety has given me so much more than I ever thought. You deserve this. You deserve to live whatever life you want to."
    "You Might be an Alcoholic If…"

    "Your job gets in the way of your drinking."

    Resources mentioned in RE 89:

    Support the Recovery Elevator Podcast by shopping at Amazon with the Recovery Elevator link:

    www.recoveryelevator.com/amazon/

    Connect with Cafe RE

    • For $12.00 per month, you can have unlimited, private access to groups of like-minded people via in-person meet-ups, unsearchable Facebook groups, and travel.
    • First month FREE with Promo Code: Elevator.

    Recovery & Rehab Links:

    • WebMD
    • The Atlantic
    • NIAAA: "Alcoholism Isn't What It Used To Be"

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up. WE can do this!"


    RE 88: If We Drink Alcohol Again, It's Like We Never Stopped and Why Oct 24, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Val, who has been sober for 6 months... This is her story… Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE. SHOW NOTES

    If you drink enough alcohol over time our brains will change due to the response to alcohol. Some of the damage is irreversible, thus proving that you can pick up right where you left off (upon relapse). This is because there is still a dopamine hypersensitivity. Relapse is part of Paul's story… After being sober for 2.5 years, Paul got another 8mos. of drinking under his belt, picking up right where he left off. There was no ramp-up phase because Paul's brain is hyper-sensitive to alcohol. Good news! Even though in the brain there is this environment where dopamine hyper-sensitivity still exists, if you don't drink then it's not activated. This change is irreversible, but, if you don't drink then it doesn't react… Check out RE 87 for more detailed info on dopamine and our crazy brains.

    [ 06:34 ] Paul introduces Val.

    Val took her last drink on April 8th, 2016, just about 6 months ago. She is 44, married, and has 3 kids and one grandchild. She is originally from Billings, MT and has lived in the Big Sky area for 20 years. She loves to bake, knit, garden, camp, hike and just be outside.

    [ 09:25 ] Talk to us about your Elevator. When did you hit bottom?

    "Well, I've hit many bottoms in my life, but I finally reached that point where I knew I needed to change or else I was going to lose everything." This was not Val's first attempt at quitting drinking. She first tried to quit in her mid-20s when she decided to start having kids. Val quit drinking for 8 years, but was miserable. After owning a restaurant and dealing with the stress of that, Val broke down and started drinking again… After 8 years of sobriety! "That's just how I dealt with stress. (Drinking) was the only way I knew how."

    [ 11:03 ] What is a dry drunk?

    "I was not drinking, but my mind was still crazy. I was still trying to control everything around me, I didn't understand life and I always felt that life was out to get me, that I was the victim." Val explains her unhappiness as afraid of people, not being comfortable in her own skin, not having a higher power and trying to do everything herself… Now, Val is asking for help. "Before, I felt that I was a failure if I had to ask for help. My expectations that I held were so high and I could never meet them."

    [ 12:57 ] How much did you drink? Talk to us about your drinking habits.

    Val was drinking at least a bottle of wine a night, and more like two bottles a night. "Because I was drinking wine, I thought it was not a big deal, that it wasn't a problem." Val tried every rule in the book: just on the weekends, or only in the evening... "When I started drinking during the day, that's when I started having oh-shit moments." Val always used the stress of work to qualify needing a drink.

    [ 14:30 ] Val talks about losing her restaurant and the feelings of failure and stress that accompanied the experience.

    [ 15:48 ] How did you do it? Walk us through the first day, the first week.

    "The first day was a morning that I was so sick that I couldn't go to work. I was so sick, sicker than I had ever been. It was a Tuesday night, and I was just sitting at home watching Netflix." Val was watching Amy (the Amy Winehouse documentary) and discovered that Amy had died from alcohol poisoning… Val had a huge wakeup moment, realizing that the same thing could easily happen to her. Val white-knuckled it for about 30 days before she started drinking again. After connecting with Paul on a webinar, she accepted help and went to her first AA meeting.

    [ 18:59 ] Tell us about your program.

    "I read in the Big Book everyday if I can, usually before bed. I know a lot of people try to start their day with a reading, but I have a kid to get ready…" Val goes to her home group meeting every week, has a service position, meets with her sponsor every week and she is on a committee. Val chooses to stay involved.

    [ 19:49 ] Do you feel more confident with 6mos. of sobriety?

    We are all shaky when we step onto new foundations. "It is getting better, but I know I have work to do. I need to keep working on my program. I'm on the 4th step right now… Writing stuff out has been very helpful." Val shares one of her resentments which is part of the 4th step, taking responsibility for her actions, emotions and experiences. "You need to forgive yourself in order to let the anger out… It feels awesome. I look at the world in a different way."

    [ 24:39 ] What have you learned about yourself through sobriety?

    "I've been very dishonest with myself throughout life and I don't want to be that way anymore. I just want to be who I am… I always felt that nobody would want to know the real me, but that's not true, that's the disease speaking."

    [ 25:46 ] What are your thoughts on relapse?

    "Well, I'm only a drink away from relapse. It can happen so easily. I have to be sure to always call my sponsor if I have that urge to drink. I'm not hiding anymore… I'm interacting and asking for help when I need it."

    [ 26:24 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "Not having a memory… Blacking out and not remembering what I did."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "That morning I woke up so sick that I couldn't go to work."
    3. What's your plan moving forward? "Continue working my program, make the relationship with my higher power stronger (accepting that I have a higher power) and I also think that I need to start worrying about what I think about myself instead of worrying about what others think."
    4. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "You can't fix it right away, it's going to take awhile."
    5. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "Just do it. Just get yourself to a meeting."
    "You Might be an Alcoholic If…"

    "You pass out before the Amy Winehouse movie is over."

    Paul's Life Hack:

    Play the long game…

    Resources mentioned in RE 88:

    Support the Recovery Elevator Podcast by shopping at Amazon with the Recovery Elevator link:

    www.recoveryelevator.com/amazon/

    Connect with Cafe RE

    • For $12.00 per month, you can have unlimited, private access to groups of like-minded people via in-person meet-ups, unsearchable Facebook groups, and travel.
    • First month FREE with Promo Code: Elevator.

    Sobriety Tracker

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    The Compound Effect

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up. WE can do this!"

    RE 87: Why Alcohol Eventually Stops Working Oct 17, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Kenny, who has been sober for 1 & 1/2 years... This is how he quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    SHOW NOTES

    Why did alcohol stop working for me? (***Spoiler Alert*** If it still works for you, IT WILL STOP working.) I needed more and more of it to fill the same effects, a.k.a. the pleasure… We know that alcohol increases cravings in the brain by releasing dopamine… But, dopamine is actually the LEARNING chemical in the brain. Thus, it teaches us where to find pleasure… After we have found pleasure, i.e. tipping a bottle back over and over again, the body will eventually turn down alcohol to protect itself. Our brain is a beautiful system that has kept us alive for millions of years… How does it do this? The brain produces another chemical, which turns down the stimulation. I've learned that I have enhanced dopamine receptors. Now, if we lived in the age of saber-toothed tigers and always having to fight for our food, this would have kept me alive, however, not now and no longer! Over time, I needed more and more alcohol to get to the point of stimulation, of pleasure, I even needed it just to feel normal… This is an evolutionary mechanism built inside of us. However, the pleasure that we should be seeking is food, water, shelter, and Cinnamon Pop-Tarts! Not alcohol!!!

    [ 06:18 ] Paul Introduces Kenny.

    Kenny has been sober since April 3rd, 2015, about one and a half years. Kenny is 27 and grew up in a small farm town in California. He spent some time in Riverside, CA before moving to Montana to attend grad school. He is a PhD student, studying statistics. Kenny loves to work on his truck, build bikes and computers and wander around in nature, getting lost in the wilderness.

    [ 07:30 ] Talk to us about your Elevator. What led up to your desire to stop drinking?

    "It was a long, slow descent with a lot of bumps towards the bottom." Kenny's roommates started to notice and comment on his drinking habits. "Last March I missed classes because I was too drunk to get to class, this had never happened before… I had a BIG eye-opening experience and realized that this wasn't just about me. I had to take responsibility."

    [ 10:02 ] How much did you drink? Did you ever try to put rules in place?

    "It started when I was 21… I realized that it kind of helped me get my Math homework done. I'd have a gin and tonic or two, nightly or whenever I needed to get stuff done and then from there I was drinking like half a ⅕ of brandy in one afternoon." This gradually progressed to being hungover or still drunk the next morning. Eventually Kenny was blacking out and waking up on a strange couch… "I came up with some schemes. I was supposed to call my best friend to stay accountable, which just led me to lying to her about how much I was drinking, which made me feel worse. My next scheme was that I got a little notebook, thinking that I could be accountable to myself and do it on my own…" This turned into Kenny tearing himself down and feeling guilty.

    [ 15:33 ] Kenny talks more about his Elevator...

    "I started talking to my new roommate who's father had turned his life around after connecting with AA. She suggested that I give him a call, which I did. He completely understood the craving and how when I drank it was just never enough…"

    [ 17:05 ] Kenny discusses "that feeling in your head."

    [ 18:08 ] What was it like when you quit drinking?

    Kenny checked out a few AA meetings after talking to his roommate's Dad… It took a couple times before he was ready to change his life. Sometime around April 3rd, 2015, there was a party… Kenny went to it having decided that he would try to drink just one drink and then go home. Kenny nursed that one drink for 1 ½ hours and was so proud that he took the opportunity to do shots with a buddy, waking up the next morning on a couch and not remembering anything from the night before… That next morning Kenny decided to give AA a shot.

    [ 21:15 ] Kenny talks about his first experience at an AA meeting...

    [ 22:00 ] Walk us through a typical day and how you stay sober.

    "I usually get up at 4:00 or 4:30 am, I realized I'm a morning person! I make a nice big breakfast, take a shower and then head to school. I ride my bike and get to see the sun come up… In the evenings I try to meditate for 15 minutes or so and play my guitar." Kenny has been working on mindfulness, trying to clear and calm his mind, becoming more aware of what's going on inside his body. "I just close my eyes and focus my breath, just acknowledging what kind of breath I'm taking, just trying to pay attention to what's going on inside."

    [ 35:17 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "When I was visiting my mom for Christmas and I got a call from my housemates saying that they couldn't put up with my drinking any longer and that I needed to find a new place…"
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "That morning that I realized I was still drunk and didn't make it to class, not only letting myself down but other students as well…"
    3. What's your plan moving forward? "Keep doing what I've been doing, fitting in a meeting or two on the weekends and staying involved…"
    4. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Just don't drink."
    5. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "Go connect with someone. Find someone else who has struggled with drinking and get to know them."
    "You Might be an Alcoholic If…"

    "You've almost fallen in a campfire and didn't know about it until the next morning when your friends tell you about it!"

    Paul's Life Hack:

    Making decisions whether big or small is tough, so just eliminate a lot of the small decisions… Examples of stressful small decisions: "Should I drink tonight?" "How many drinks?" "What liquor store do I go to now?" "How do I sneak booze into the movie theater?" "How do I control my f****** drinking?" I no longer have to struggle over these small decisions because "I DON'T DRINK." Make this one decision and the others are no longer relevant.

    Resources mentioned in RE 87:

    Support the Recovery Elevator Podcast by shopping at Amazon with the Recovery Elevator link:

    www.recoveryelevator.com/amazon/

    Connect with Cafe RE

    • For $12.00 per month, you can have unlimited, private access to groups of like-minded people via in-person meet-ups, unsearchable Facebook groups, and travel.
    • First month FREE with Promo Code: Elevator.

    Sobriety Tracker

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    Dr. Wolfram Schultz

    Dr. Daniel J. Levitin

    • Dr. Levitin's Ted Talk

    Pop-Tarts Frosted Brown Sugar Cinnamon Toaster Pastries

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up. WE can do this!" Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    RE 86: I Got This | The Three Most Dangerous Words an Alcoholic Can Say Oct 10, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Jenny, who has been sober for 13 months... This is how she quit. Resources mentioned in RE 86:

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    SHOW NOTES

    Ok, so you're doing a pretty good job of following your rules, your systems, or you're experimenting with sobriety… Have you ever said the words "I got this"? "I would say these words over and over again while putting these rules, systems, games, etc. in place when trying to get sober on my own…" Paul was sober for over 2 years when those mean little words came back, "You know what Paul, we got this… We're totally good." And, DAMN IT! After two years of sobriety, we drank (me and Gary)... "We didn't got this…" If you ever catch yourself saying, "Hey, you got this…" be very cognizant, very aware, and very, very cautious... "I got this," the three most dangerous words an alcoholic can say.

    [ 05:33 ] Paul Introduces Jenny.

    Jenny has been sober for just over a year, since August 25th, 2015. "My life is better than it was when I was drinking." Jenny grew up in Helena, MT and currently lives in Bozeman, MT. She is married to an amazing man and has 4 kids, ages 4-14. She loves to run, workout and go to the gym. "If it involves exercise, I love to do it!"

    [ 06:59 ] Jenny speaks about her drinking history.

    The alcoholic tendency has always been there for Jenny… "I don't think that ever in my life I had just one drink. It was always like game-on. In High School I was "the party girl." Jenny knew she had to stop before she hit the absolute bottom.

    [ 10:46 ] What was it like drinking and taking care of 4 kids? (Paul openly admits that he could barely take care of Ben, the Standard Poodle, when he was drinking…)

    "When the drinking started to escalate, it was sort of the perfect storm. My husband is a firefighter and started working 24-hr. shifts… Things really started to get out of control. When I was drinking, I felt like I was the best mom in the world… But, I was really checked out. I was selfish. In the back of my mind I was always concerned with refilling my glass." Saying those words, "Yes, I am an alcoholic," was the scariest thing Jenny has ever said… "Admitting that I didn't have all of my shit together…"

    [ 14:06 ] Jenny talks about how admitting "I am an alcoholic" is liberating.

    "That dirty little secret I had been carrying around... I had been doing all of these things to convince myself that I didn't have a problem. I was volunteering, doing insane workouts at 5am (sometimes still drunk)... After, a lot of moms came to me and said, "Hey, I think I have the same problem."

    [ 16:43 ] Talk to me about Run for Recovery.

    Run for Recovery is a run supporting Alive Again Life Recovery Mission which exists for the purpose of creating a safe Christian environment for individuals of all ages to fellowship, learn and heal from addiction and addiction-related effects. Running and exercising has helped Jenny so much through this process (choosing sobriety).

    [ 18:39 ] How did you do it? What was Day 1 like?

    "I just did it. I just quit. I went moment by moment, minute by minute. I binge listened to Recovery Elevator. After about a week I got into my crying phase. I was ashamed. I beat myself up over poor choices and poor parenting…"

    [ 20:20 ] What other methods besides running do you use?

    "Reading a lot, educating myself, and sometimes just forcing myself to sit still. Forcing myself to feel those feelings." Jenny has found that her athletic performance has increased since being sober. "I feel one million times better than when I was drinking." Working out is definitely an outlet for Jenny. "It's definitely better than vodka."

    [ 29:06 ] What's on your bucket-list?

    "Half marathons, Spartan racing, keep volunteering, discover more about myself, and to be a little kinder to myself…"

    [ 30:02 ] What have you learned about yourself?

    "I'm a type-A, over-achieving, control freak, and working on being a little nicer to myself… We need to be nice to ourselves. We need to talk to ourselves like we talk to a friend. We really beat ourselves up." Jenny has learned about what triggers her and how to manage cravings (they do come). She finds other things to do, like playing with her kids, going for a run, or just sitting with the craving and letting it pass.

    [ 35:17 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "4 or 5 months before I quit drinking, my husband and I went to Las Vegas. My husband went to bed and I went to the "gift shop," which just meant that I went drinking. I couldn't get the key to work to get back into the room and I ended up passing out just outside of our bedroom. My husband found me at 3am."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "That panicky feeling that would come when there were only a couple of drinks left in the vodka bottle, and over-thinking my kids activities because it was going to affect my ability to drink."
    3. What's your plan moving forward? "Continue to volunteer and be of service. Get more involved with RE and really staying accountable."
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? "Cafe RE, the Bubble Hour, going to the gym, getting out of my own head, staying in the moment…"
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "You can do anything, you just can't do everything."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "Set yourself up for success. Cut yourself some slack. Make sure you have a plan."
    7. "You might be an alcoholic if you go to the liquor store and browse around, ask some questions, yet know full well that you're going to go to the vodka section and buy something from the bottom shelf."
    Paul's Life Hack:

    Take your ball and go home. You don't have to put yourself in precarious situations. You don't have to drink just to appease others. Just take your cell phone and go home. Be kind to yourself. Take your ball and go home. Take your beach toys, your camper, your R.V., your whatever… Take it and go home.

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up. WE can do this!"

    RE 85: Do You Have a Drinking Problem Part II Oct 03, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have John, who has been sober for 5 years... This is how he quit. Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    AA

    Recovery Elevator Episode #1: Do You Have a Drinking Problem

    SHOW NOTES

    "In Episode 1 of RE, we (the human Paul & the dog Ben) do a test to determine if I am an alcoholic. The results… Blatantly clear. Yes, I am an alcoholic." Paul found it extremely difficult to stop drinking after having just one drink. For about a decade, he lived in the pickle of "one drink was too much and 1,000 drinks was just not enough." How the hell do you navigate that? Well, the answer is definitely, "Don't drink." Now, at Episode 85, Paul has an even better test to determine if you've got a drinking problem.

    Preliminary steps before taking this self-assessment:

    1. Make sure you are hydrated. Drink lots of water (if you are already drinking a beer during this portion, then yes, you too are an alcoholic).
    2. Stretch out. Loosen up. Maybe even do some burpees!
    3. Make sure you've got enough lead in your pencil and ink in your pen!
    4. Take some deep breaths.
    Paul's Self-Assessment Test:

    (***This is going to be the new metric moving forward, I guarantee it! No need to go spend a ton of money on any other tests...This assessment is free and accurate.***)

    1. Have you ever wondered, "Do I have a drinking problem?" YES or NO

    ***FEEL FREE TO PRESS PAUSE, GRAB A GLASS OF WATER, SHARPEN YOUR PENCIL, ETC., AS THIS IS THE HALF WAY POINT OF THE SELF ASSESSMENT TEST***

    1. Have you ever asked yourself, "Would my life be better without alcohol?" YES or NO

    CONGRATULATIONS!!! You have just finished the Recovery Elevator self-assessment!

    Answer Key: Listen to Paul on RE 85 @ [ 5:11 ]

    "Quitting drinking isn't easy, but my life is exponentially better since I've quit drinking." In the previous 84 podcasts, there's a pretty good roadmap already laid out for you… Not only will your life improve (yes, there will be speed bumps), but the lives of those around you will improve too! In all honesty, these self-assessment tests are this simple. It's not easy, but it's better.

    [ 10:25 ] Paul Introduces John.

    John was born and raised and lives in Wichita, Kansas. He has a 3-year old son. He enjoys working on his car, experimenting with cooking, and comic books… He is engaged to be married to a woman who is also in the program (AA). John's last drink was August 28th, 2011…

    John kept trying to do it (quit drinking) on his own, but time and time again, it just didn't happen! After telling himself, "I'm just going to have two beers..." 3 or 4 beers, a few mixed drinks, sake for the whole table (they were going to a bar after dinner) and a $400 bar tab later… "I woke up on the floor in my undies, covered in puke (puke in the hallway, puke in the bathroom)... I just felt that someone was telling me to get help." John realized he just couldn't do this alone.

    [ 20:29 ] When did you decide to first quit drinking?

    "I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. I kept trying to do it myself, but I'd always find a "special" occasion to drink." This is one of those things (choosing sobriety) where you actually have to do the work!

    [ 22:19 ] "I think I got this." John explains what this means for him...

    To John, this phrase means that he's letting his ego tell him how to run things. "I tried on my own without a program, guidance or a schedule and it just wouldn't stick. Ever." When John got his 2nd DUI, he knew something was up… John knew that if he drank again, he would get behind the wheel.

    [ 24:15 ] Talk to us about Alcoholics Anonymous.

    John was completely blown away by the spectrum of diverse people that made up his first AA meeting, which was quite contrary to what he "knew" AA was going to be!

    [ 31:08 ] John discusses weight loss, cooking and what he does with all his booze-FREE time!

    [ 32:59 ] What's your favorite dance move?

    Thanks Paul for getting in some humor! In his sobriety, John has really enjoyed running, but he does not prefer the "Running Man," and claims that the "Robot" is more his style...

    [ 35:48 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "I had the DUI 50-moped (the scooter I rode when I had my license suspended) and I had been drinking. I got on the moped… I just could not stop myself from drinking and driving."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "That day that I swore to myself that I'd only have 2 beers at the restaurant and ended up wondering, "How the hell did this happen?"
    3. What's your plan moving forward? "Keep going to meetings, keep being thankful for my sobriety, keep asking for more sobriety, keep being honest with my sobriety, and keep reaching out to people."
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? "Right now, it's the podcasts. I can take them anywhere. I can listen to it and nobody even knows." John listens to Recovery Elevator, SHAIR Podcast, and the Bubble Hour.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Look for the similarities. We all want to stay sober."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "Just do it. You're going to want to find a reason to not start, to give it one more day. Just do it. Just stop. Today. Right now. Just stop."
    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up. WE can do this!"

    Drop us a line: info@recoveryelevator.com


    RE 84: Lean Into Those Uncomfortable Emotions in Sobriety Sep 26, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Elaine, who has been sober for 15 days… This is how she quit. Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Sobriety Tracker

    AA

    Elaine's podcast: Throttle Podcast

    • Instagram: @throttlepodcast
    SHOW NOTES

    "Today, I want to talk about feelings…" Feelings. Fun, right? We often hear that "drinking is but a symptom…" But, what the hell does that mean? It means we have feelings, experiences, and other life situations that we don't want to deal with, so we choose to cover them up with distractions, like drinking… "Two years and one week ago I used to drink all of these emotions away." Through some serious research, Paul has discovered that dogs (thanks to Ben for being part of this study) can teach us something about these feelings. Ok, so it's obvious that humans and dogs are different, but dogs can actually teach us how to lean into negative sensations and feelings… Take riding in a car for example, a dog (like Ben) will actually lean into uncomfortable sensations like curvy roads and the blowing wind. We can learn from our four-footed friends.

    5 Strategies for Leaning Into Emotions:

    1. When you feel that negative emotion, lean into it.
    2. Don't categorize emotions as good or bad, just notice that the emotions are here.
    3. Breath and count to 10.
    4. Recognize where these feelings come from and begin to let-go. Let-go of the sensation, let-go of the experience.
    5. Know yourself. Begin to observe yourself from a 3rd-person point of view. Just watch.

    [ 09:24 ] Paul Introduces Elaine.

    Elaine's last drink was 15 days ago! Elaine has lived in a number of cities across Canada. She's in her 40s and does freelance work. She has been happily married for 25 years. She loves practicing karate (green belt), archery and riding her motorcycle. She is an introvert and an atheist. Elaine loves karate because of the mental part. "You really have to be focused and mindful."

    [ 13:44 ] When did you decide to first quit drinking?

    "That's a long road…" This time around, Elaine has joined AA. "My husband came home one day and told me a story about a great friend who was doing AA and it completely changed my view of AA." Elaine didn't feel that she had a rock bottom, but really resonated with the group the first time she joined an AA meeting. "I just couldn't fool myself any longer. It's a really open and honest group and I am an alcoholic."

    [ 17:31 ] What was it like, your first 24 hours, 72 hours…?

    It was a Wednesday, the day before we were leaving for a trip to my husband's family cottage, typically a long-weekend that involved drinking. "It was a white-knuckle weekend. I wasn't really sure what to do with myself." Elaine realized that in prior years the cottage was always an excuse to drink.

    [ 21:26 ] Talk to me about depression?

    Elaine has lived with depression since her teens. "When you mix alcohol with depression, it's never a good thing." During bouts of depression, everything becomes very arduous. Elaine now has the awareness to notice when depression is creeping up on her. "I used to start off with a couple of cocktails, have wine while making dinner and during dinner, and then finish off the night with a few night-caps. I would wake up the next day and feel terrible and would spend the whole next day beating myself up about it (the depression and the drinking). It was a vicious cycle."

    [ 26:44 ] What have you learned about yourself in the last 15 days?

    Elaine has learned that it is okay to feel really vulnerable and that it can be really hard to ask for help, but that she is also stronger than she thought and can do this and ask for help often.

    [ 27:56 ] What is your plan moving forward?

    Elaine plans to continue going to AA meetings where she finds a lot of strength in sharing stories with others and building camaraderie. "I really value their honesty. I find that alcoholism is like depression in a toolkit sense. I make sure that I get enough sleep, and I incorporate meditation and mindfulness. Fortunately, I have built these practices up in dealing with depression."

    [ 29:47 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "The things that I don't remember due to blackouts."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "So many! Waking up from being asleep and rather than going back to sleep I got up at 3am and made myself a vodka tonic…"
    3. What's your favorite resource in recovery? "Other alcoholics, the Recovery Elevator podcast, and going to meetings."
    4. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Stand up and take the 24-hour sobriety chip at the AA meeting."
    5. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "Get help today. Tomorrow things aren't going to change. Don't delay, just go get help today in whatever form that means to you."
    Life Hacks from Paul
    • You know that voice inside your head? - Change the way it speaks to you.
    • Replace "I'm an idiot" with "Oops, I made a mistake."
    • Take responsibility for your actions. That alone can get you sober.
    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up. WE can do this!"

    Drop us a line: info@recoveryelevator.com


    RE 83: Keeping Expectations Realistic in Sobriety Sep 19, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Kendall, who has been sober for 130 days… This is how he quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Sobriety Tracker

    SHOW NOTES

    Paul on Lowering the bar… "I have a podcast about being okay with the way things are, and I'll admit, this episode is not perfect, there are some things left out." Paul has been sober for 730 days. "Life at two years sober is better than life 730 days ago… My anxiety, that has pretty much gone away. But, on day 729, I had a near meltdown… The bar of expectations I had put in place for myself, had slowly risen up over the past 1 ½ years. On day 730, I realized that I needed to be kind to myself, to be patient and to get realistic. 2 years is not a long time, I still have so much more to go. On day 729, self-loathing showed up… again… I was so far out of my comfort zone, but that is where the growth happens, and that is where I have been for the past year and a half. So, I'm lowering the bar, I'm going to take the time to observe what I've done, what's going on around me and enjoy the moment. What's my plan moving forward? Well, I'm not going to change a darn thing." Paul is taking this one day at a time… One day at a time…

    [ 10:16 ] Paul Introduces Kendall:

    Kendall is 28 and has been sober for 130 days. "It feels great, I'm free. I don't have to carry the weight of being drunk." Kendall is from Lawrence, Kansas and moved to Montana 5 years ago as a professional painter, in his free time he likes to head up into the mountains.

    [ 11:25 ] What made you want to stop?

    Kendall surrendered to alcohol on the anniversary of a death of a best friend who died from a drunk driving accident. Kendall reset his sobriety date after smoking a bowl after attending another funeral of a close friend.

    [ 13:42 ] What were your drinking habits like?

    "I would drink at least a 12-pack if not more. I'd start in the morning just to calm the jitters, then the moment I got off work the fun began." Kendall used rules like "no hard alcohol," "just O'Douls," anything to maintain his sanity. "I got to drinking on the job, anything to keep my mind on alcohol." After being dismissed from a family Christmas dinner, Kendall knew something was up.

    [ 16:28 ] How did you do it? (on choosing sobriety)

    Kendall utilized the rules of AA. "They spoke my language, they have a plan and they know how to do it." Kendall felt connected once he got a sponsor, a home group and started doing service. "It works if you work it."

    [ 17:55 ] "Drinking is but a symptom…" Kendall dives into this idea.

    [ 18:32 ] What was it like, your first 24 hours, 72 hours…?

    "Oh boy, was that something else!" Kendall's brain was so hard wired to drink. "The people in the world aren't the problem, I always played the victim… It was all me. Selfish and self-centered."

    "The moment that you're able to accept some humility, that's when the freedom begins." Now, in sobriety, Kendall feels like the world is brighter and clearer. He can focus, eat and sleep, and do the things we do to be able to take care of ourselves. "It's crazy how I'm now able to read a chapter and comprehend what I'm reading… It's a gift."

    [ 23:36 ] What have you lost to alcohol?

    "I'd say I lost my job, an education, an opportunity for an education, family, friends, relationships…"

    [ 24:50 ] Have cravings come and what do you do to move forward? Kendall will pray and utilize his sponsor. "One time I went to the Wal-Mart parking lot and pushed carts back just to do something, to get out of my head."

    [ 27:34 ] What does your recovery portfolio look like today?

    "The moment I wake up, I pray. I have gone through "the big book and the 12 & 12". The first 30 minutes of my day are all geared towards AA. I use the serenity prayer. The moment I get off work I go to a meeting, come home, cook dinner and go to bed. I like to keep it simple."

    [ 28:37 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "Christmas dinner when I wanted to see my family but I couldn't because I had been dismissed because of my habits."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "The morning after I had been fired for drinking on the job and I had to go meet with my boss… I just couldn't."
    3. What is your plan in sobriety moving forward? "To serve others and keep going to meetings."
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? "My sponsor."
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Keep coming back. It works if you work it."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give to our listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "Keep your head out of the clouds and feet on the ground. Go to your local AA meeting."
    QUOTABLES

    "Sobriety is just straight up nothing." - Paul

    "Deep down I needed an answer, I needed a solution… Really, I needed to check into reality…" - Kendall

    "I'm able to be Kendall, the Kendall that everybody knew that I could be when I put the bottle down." - Kendall

    "What is popular is not always right and what is right is not always popular." - Kendall

    "You might be an alcoholic if after your 3rd DUI and losing 2 best friends to alcohol, you think you still don't have a problem with alcohol." - Kendall

    "You don't have to hangout with people you don't like." - Paul

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up. WE can do this!"

    Drop us a line: info@recoveryelevator.com


    RE 82: I Nearly Forgot How Scary Addiction Is Sep 12, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Chad, with 37 days of sobriety. This is how he quit. Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Reddit Stop Drinking Forum - /r/stopdrinking

    SMART Recovery

    SHOW NOTES

    Paul Introduces Chad

    Chad has been sober for 37 days! Boom! Chad racked up about 2.5 years of sobriety in a previous life... "It doesn't get any easier. The best thing you can do is to get sober and stay sober." Chad is 25 and works in the communications field. He was born and raised in Atlanta and has lived all over the world. Chad is currently single (and recommends staying this way in early sobriety). Chad is really into backpacking... He got totally hooked during his time in rehab.

    What were your drinking habits like?

    "I avoided drinking and other habits until the summer before I went to college. I was afraid that something would happen to me if I drank. Little did I realize that that would become a self-fulfilling prophecy." Chad joined a fraternity in college and was drinking close to a 750ml of "nasty" Burnett's vodka a day...

    Did you ever try to "cut-back" and put rules in place?

    "You name it, I did it... But nothing ever worked." Chad went to rehab around age 22/23 to a place in the Pisgah National Forest, where he relearned how to live life -- survival techniques, meditation, etc. Chad attributes the program to his sobriety.

    After 2.5 years of sobriety, what was your shoelace? What made you drink again...?

    "Oh man, as with so many men in sobriety, it was a lady friend..." Chad was going on a first date with a girl that he perceived to be way out of his league... Chad was so nervous and remembered how embarrassed he would feel if he had to explain on a first date that he doesn't drink... Looking back, Chad now knows that honesty is the answer. "One drink led to two drinks... And three months later I was back to blacking-out..." The girl left Chad after two months when she realized something just wasn't right. Chad believes that he had this experience so that he could add it to the long list of reasons why he doesn't drink.

    Chad talks about recovery and his recovery portfolio.

    Chad is working with a sponsor (AA) as he feels that he needs to get relief quickly. Chad is working one step every week right now -- it's like a mini 12-week program. AA is working for Chad and he is going to keep doing it... Besides listening to the RE podcast (Chad's favorites are RE 67 with Buddy and any that highlight the newly sober). "These relationships that we form (in recovery) go way beyond the face value of most relationships. People in recovery can relate on such a deeper level."

    When your next shoelace comes, when life happens, what do you plan on doing differently?

    Chad is now asking for help. "It's admitting that you need help, that I need to reach out for additional resources. I see this as a sign of being a man." It's calling his sponsor, connecting with his recovery groups/contacts, and listening to the RE podcast. It is a courageous thing to be vulnerable and ask for help.

    Who's your favorite Atlanta hip-hop star?

    Listen in to get an update on ATL stars from Paul & Chad!

    Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "In November of 2015, I got behind the wheel of my car and decided to visit a friend 4 hours away... Short of the long of it, I woke up in jail the next day in Raven Co. I was off by quite a bit..."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "37 days ago when a co-worker pulled me aside and asked me if I was drunk in a meeting. It was no longer a personal thing."
    3. What is your plan in sobriety moving forward? "Continue to utilize and build 'that' network. I'm so afraid to ask for help, so if I'm constantly surrounding myself with other alcoholics in recovery I know that I can always reach out for help."
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? "On Reddit - Stop Drinking sub-Reddit, where people can chat in a forum, and SMART recovery."
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Footwork. It's what action you're taking in order to stay sober the next day. Putting one foot in front of the other."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give to our listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "Listen to the examples that people have provided, examine the evidence and determine for yourself what you're willing to do to get back on track and to be happy because what you're doing right now clearly isn't working. Take an objective look and take action."
    QUOTABLES

    "When you make it through a craving, that feeling of accomplishment, that general good feeling... That's the new high that I'm chasing." - Chad

    "I'm finally doing it for myself, not for other people." - Chad

    "You might be an alcoholic if you get behind the wheel of a car with 2-bottles of vodka and end up floatin' in a canoe in Raven Co. where they filmed Deliverance... You might have a problem." - Chad

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up. WE can do this!"

    Drop us a line: info@recoveryelevator.com


    RE 81: Famous Musician Alcoholics: Some Made it, Some Didn't Sep 05, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Julie, with 118 days of sobriety. This is how she quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Join Cafe RE in April for a trip to PERU! Trip details can be found here: http://www.recoveryelevator.com/peru/

    Rockstars Who are Sober:

    http://www.soberrecovery.com/recovery/12-rock-stars-proud-to-be-sober/#/most-popular

    http://www.eonline.com/news/271628/amy-winehouse-s-cause-of-death-accidental-alcohol-poisoning-blood-level-five-times-the-legal-limit

    Good reads mentioned by Julie:

    Drinking: A Love Story, by Caroline Knapp

    Let's Take the Long Way Home: A Memoir of Friendship, by Gail Caldwell

    SHOW NOTES

    Paul Introduces Julie

    Julie has been sober for 118 days. Julie is 46, she grew up in Annapolis and Germany. She has been working with the same marketing company for 20 years. Julie is on her 4th year in a relationship with a great guy who is a normal drinker. She loves to stay active and be outside.

    What are you going to do differently this time?

    Julie was sober for 129 days before relapsing at a wedding. Now, the next thing for her is to get to 130 days. Julie was "white-knuckling" it, doing it all on her own. This time around, the difference is that Julie is reaching out and connecting through Cafe RE, sober friends, and she is holding herself accountable.

    Julie speaks on how to tell your friends, "I don't drink,"

    Talk to me about your bottom?

    "I let down a friend. I had promised to help a friend at a certain time. I drank. And I passed out… Sleeping through my commitment." Despite many other signs that somehow didn't get Julie to quit for very long… this was the final trigger. "I'd have many incidents where I would stop for one to three days, but this last one was it."

    What were your drinking habits like?

    "I was a wine drinker. When one (referring to either 'red' or 'white') would present a problem to me, I would switch. Sometimes it was 'red' and then it was 'white.' I don't like beer or hard liquor. In High School I felt that my shyness was hurting me, so I started drinking to "loosen-up." Come college, I'd be the one passed out on the couch. It never occurred to me that I had a problem. In my 30s, it got pretty scary. I started drinking alone. I just took the ball and ran with it."

    Did you ever try to "cut-back" and put rules in place?

    Julie played games. The 'red' wine, 'white' wine game. She wouldn't keep wine in the house, but would play games where she based her whole lifestyle around the wine shop hours. She used day/time constraints to "control" the drinking… Shockingly, it didn't work. "I remember standing on my front porch thinking, drinking is my biggest problem ever." Julie used to drink to calm her anxiety, but what she found was that drinking actually caused anxiety.

    Walk me through the start of your sobriety.

    "Whatever works for you, grab it and go with it!" Julie does not participate in AA, but sees it as a very valid way to support a sober journey. Julie uses the Cafe RE Facebook group to connect and create sober like-minded friends. Julie reads a lot of books, listens to podcasts, and connects with others.

    What does your recovery portfolio look like today?

    "In recovery, I have a whole lot more free time." Julie is very connected to Cafe RE's Facebook Group (unsearchable and private group).

    Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "I passed out in an Uber and the driver couldn't wake me up when he got to my house so he called an ambulance."
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "I had a couple of these… My habit was that I would take my wine to bed. I wanted to be safe, so I'd take my wine to bed… If I woke up at 6am and there was still wine left, I'd finish the bottle."
    3. What is your plan in sobriety moving forward? "I'm going to stick with Cafe RE, the facebook page, and continue reaching out and connecting and sharing with people."
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? Besides Cafe RE! "Drinking: A Love Story, a book by a woman who has now passed away. She wrote about her drinking story in a way that I was able to connect with." Julie also mentions, Let's Take the Long Way Home: A Memoir of Friendship.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Life is better sober."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give to our listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "You can do it. It is absolutely possible. You just can." Julie recognizes that she is in early sobriety, "But, it is doable!"
    7. What did you lose to alcohol? "I lost a lot of self respect and I lost time. I lost evenings to red wine. But, the good news is as soon as you stop, you get those back."
    8. What advice would you give to your younger self? "I wish I never started drinking. I was just fine the way I was, I didn't need to fit it."
    9. What's on your bucket list? "My goal is to visit 50 countries by the time I'm 50, including going to the Galapagos and on a safari."
    QUOTABLES

    "That's the thing I didn't know about our problem, it doesn't back dial. It just picks up right where you left off." - Julie

    "There is no better time to get sober. If today is the very best day to quit alcohol, do it." - Paul

    "You might be an alcoholic is you shop for the test online that is going to tell you that you aren't an alcoholic." - Julie

    SOBER & NOT-SO-FORTUNATE MUSICIANS

    We can learn from the past. Although some stories are not so bright, we can learn from the successes and the tragedies of others. Some of the musicians below made it and are still able to share their art and creativity with the world... Unfortunately, some were not so lucky and left this world too early.

    Sober Musicians

    Steven Tyler - The Aerosmith frontman maintained sobriety for 12 years when he became seriously clean in 1988. Though that streak was compromised by a relapse into prescription drug addiction in 2006, Tyler checked himself into the Betty Ford Clinic three years later and has said to be dedicated to his sobriety ever since.

    Neil Young - Young finally commented publicly about his sobriety two years ago, stating that he had achieved sobriety in 2011 after decades of alcohol and drug use. According to Young, he wanted to see what his life would look like from a sober perspective and has been going strong, viewing life with a new lens for over three years now.

    Eric Clapton - Clapton, who has made a career off of his work with Cream as well as his solo work, has been sober since the late 1980s. He is publicly dedicated to recovery, holding benefit concerts and acting as founder of Crossroads Centre, an addiction treatment center in Antigua.

    Elton John - Elton John has been sober for over 20 years. The main source of inspiration for his own sobriety was witnessing the death of Ryan White, an Indiana teenager and poster child for HIV/AIDS. John felt that as a gay man he needed to get his life together to help those suffering from HIV. According to many different sources, John claims that getting sober has been his greatest achievement.

    Ringo Starr - The drummer from The Beatles has been sober since the 80s-- a time which he has referred to as an "alcoholic haze." Today, he exercises three times a week, practices daily meditation and is a vegetarian.

    Tom Waits - Known for his booze-drenched voice and persona, Waits has been sober for over 20 years now and credits his wife Kathleen in helping him get there. The singer went to AA and though he's happy to be in recovery now, says that it was a struggle.

    Keith Urban - Keith Urban has battled with drug and alcohol addiction since the 90s and also salutes his wife, Nicole Kidman, for intervening and helping him achieve sobriety--though he also indirectly attributes her to be the cause of his relapse. After being sober for six years in 2004, Urban found himself drinking again after marrying Kidman and having to cope with time apart during her filming obligations. One day, after returning home from a shoot, Kidman staged an intervention. Urban reentered rehab in October 2006 and rededicated himself to sobriety.

    Anthony Kiedis - Kiedis, the singer for the Red Hot Chili Peppers, has been sober for years after having grown up alongside an addict (his father) and later becoming one himself. Now, he's dedicated to fitness and Men's Fitness has listed him as having one of the best rock star abs.

    Chris Martin - Coldplay's front man openly talks about the days when he used to use, but he is now dedicated to clean and sober living. In fact the musician doesn't even drink coffee today.

    James Hetfield - The Metallica singer entered rehab in 2001 and has been sober ever since. His journey has been documented in the film Some Kind of Monster.

    Moby - Moby is known for his straight-edge Christian (though he's not really Christian) look but this musician had more passed-out drunk moments than revelations in the 90s. After fearing that he was going to lose his memory from all the drug use, he left New York a few years ago to start over in LA and began attending AA meetings.

    David Bowie - Bowie spent decades off the wagon due to a heavy cocaine addiction, but finally kicked the habit sometime in his 50s. Now, at the age of 68, he is enjoying a full life in sobriety with model wife Iman.

    Not so fortunate Musicians

    Amy Winehouse - Honorable British musician Amy Winehouse died of an alcohol addiction in 2011. Known for her eclectic style and deep contralto vocals, Winehouse had much going for her but turned to drugs and alcohol due to stress and her sad life story. ***Tune in to RE81 for a full story on Amy Winehouse, her struggle and ultimate demise from alcohol.***

    Whitney Houston - Singer Whitney Houston, cited by the Guinness World Records as the most awarded female act of all time, was repeatedly in and out of rehab. She passed away in 2012, allegedly as a result of her addiction.

    Flava Flav - Rapper Flava Flav has had his license suspended as a result of DUIs at least 43 times.

    Billie Holiday - Holiday suffered from alcoholism for most of her life. She died of pulmonary edema and heart failure caused by alcohol induced cirrhosis of the liver on July 17,1959. She was 44 years old.

    Bon Scott - AC/DC singer Bon Scott died of alcohol poisoning combined with choking on his own vomit after night of heavy drinking on February 19, 1980. He was 33 years old.

    Hank Williams (the original) - On January 1, 1953, Hank Williams died as a result of hemorrhages in his heart and neck. His chronic alcohol abuse was believed to be a factor in his death at age 29.

    Jim Morrison - On July 3, 1971, Jim Morrison died of a heroin overdose after a night of heavy drinking (accounts are hazy and disputed, but we're going to allow his inclusion). He was 27 years old.

    John Bonham - On September 25 1980, Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham died after drinking over one liter of vodka. He died choking on his own vomit. He was 32 years old.

    Keith Whitley - Country musician Keith Whitley died of alcoholism on May 9, 1989. His blood alcohol level was .47 at the time of his death. Whitley was 34 years old.

    Lester Young - On March 15, 1959, Jazz musician Lester Young died from heart failure after years of alcohol abuse. He was 49 years old.

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"

    RE 80: Celebrity Alcoholics: Some Made it, Some Didn't Aug 29, 2016
    Show notes

    Today we have Lo, with 7.5 months of sobriety. This is how she quit.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    FYI! Alcoholism does not discriminate. It is straight-up an equal, all around ass-kicker… Alcoholism does not care about your gender, race, social status, height, weight, athletic prowess, economic status or celeb status. Yep, that's right, this mean celebrities can be alcoholics too! It's just that you don't ever hear about the list of celebs that fade away because their drinking habits become too much… They just literally fade away. Adios…

    But, what you maybe didn't know is the list of recovering alcoholics that run the Hollywood gamut. So here it goes, a short list of the Famous & Sober: Stephen King, Ben Affleck (rehab in 2001), Michael J. Fox, Jamie Lee Curtis, Diana Ross, Mel Gibson, Johnny Depp, Mickey Mantle, Eminem, Anthony Hopkins, and Harry Potter (became sober is 2010).

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    info@recoveryelevator.com

    SHOW NOTES

    [ 08:40 ] Paul Introduces Lo

    Lo has been sober for 7.5 months. She is originally from Northern Minnesota with a bad (but proud) habit of moving back to Bozeman, Montana time and time again. "It has been a good place to keep coming back to." Lo is a massage therapist. She enjoys running, hiking, coffee, theatre, and is rediscovering her passion for art. "There are so many more hours in the day now that I'm practicing sobriety," comments Lo on making time for creativity and art.

    [ 10:52 ] What brought you to the decision to stop drinking?

    "I surrendered enough." It took Lo close to a year to truly decide to get an AA sponsor and stick with the plan. "The previous day I had wanted to drink so bad. The next day it returned, so I drank. It was enough, the shame, the guilt, the wanting to commit suicide the next day. It was enough. My emotional hangovers were just so heavy."

    [ 14:29 ] Did you have any 'plans'?

    "Sometimes I would wake up and feel shitty enough that I didn't want to drink. My therapist told me to try to have only x amount of drinks per week… I usually hit the mark by Monday or Tuesday. I would tally up the drinks at the end of the week, and I just never could make it…"

    [ 17:23 ] How did you do it 7.5 months ago?

    "I finally got serious with the program (referring to AA). It took me several months to come to the understanding that I was an alcoholic. It was time to take the program seriously."

    [ 19:45 ] Paul refers to the idea of "breaking up with the word alcoholic."

    Check out RE #75 for more on this!

    [ 21:07 ] Lo speaks about her struggles, discovering who she is and what having a higher power means to her.

    "I have to learn to trust it. To let go." Lo finds relief in this technique, knowing that she has relief from her mind and anxiety.

    [ 25:39 ] What does your recovery portfolio look like today? Walk me through a day in recovery with Lo.

    Lo gets out for a morning run a couple times a week, drinks coffee, meditates, and tries to stay conscious of being connected to her higher power. Lo also stays in contact with people from the program (AA), texting, calling and just connecting.

    [ 31:48 ] Lo talks about the 'Pink Cloud' that has not shown up yet.

    [ 29:00 ] Rapid Fire Round
    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? "Last summer when I drank TOO much. I wasn't planning on drinking that evening and then had a suicide attempt."
    2. What is your favorite Flow Riders song? "That's a great band!" Paul is also a comedian...
    3. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? "The same night that I had the suicide attempt. My actions were just going down a road that I wasn't even thinking about."
    4. What is your plan moving forward? "Keeping up with my friendships, connecting, going to meetings and listening to RE."
    5. What's your favorite resource in recovery? "AA Program and the Podcast (RE)."
    6. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "The goal is not to feel better about life, but to stay sober."
    7. What parting piece of guidance can you give to our listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? "It's worth all the hard work and it will pay off. Don't quit before the miracle happens."
    QUOTABLES

    "Adios alcohol, welcome back hobbies and passions." - Paul

    "If you're concerned enough about your drinking and you're at an AA meeting (you're probably an alcoholic)" - Lo

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"

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