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    Recovery Elevator

    It’s not a NO to alcohol — it’s a YES to a better life!
    Bestselling author Paul Churchill interviews people who have successfully quit drinking, offering an honest, uplifting look at what an alcohol-free life can really look like. Each week, Recovery Elevator explores sobriety from fresh perspectives — no judgment, no lectures, just real stories from real people.
    Whether you’re sober curious, newly sober, supporting a loved one, or already thriving in recovery, you’ve found your community.

    Topics include: how to stop drinking alcohol, alcohol addiction and dependency, whether moderate drinking actually works, what happens to your brain when you quit drinking, the role of spirituality in recovery, whether AA is right for you, tracking sobriety milestones, and whether addiction might be trying to tell you something.

    If alcohol is making you sick and tired, Recovery Elevator is your invitation to explore what life on the other side looks like — through candid conversations and inspiring guest stories.

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    RE 169: Has Addiction Always Been a Problem? May 14, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Caroline, with over 1 year since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Has addiction always been a problem? Alcohol has been around for thousands of years, but has alcoholism? In Gabor Maté's book, "In the realm of hungry ghosts" he states: "The precursor to addiction is dislocation... the loss of psychological, social, and economic integration into family and culture.. a sense of exclusion, isolation and powerlessness. Only chronically and severely dislocated people are vulnerable to addiction. The historical correlation to severe dislocation and addiction is strong. Although alcohol consumption and drunkenness on festive occasions was widespread in Europe during the middle ages, only a few people become drunkards or inebriates. So what happened?" Dislocation became more prevalent during the rise of industrial society in the 1800's. As traditional familial or cultural roles weakened, alcoholism became more widespread. The effects of this can be seen not only in the US on both immigrant and native populations, but also in the native aboriginal cultures of New Zealand and the rising number of addicts in China as it struggles during periods of rapid growth.

    SHOW NOTES

    [9:50] Paul Introduces Caroline.

    Caroline is from New Zealand, 40 years old, married and a mother of three. She enjoys reading, she is the new owner of a pub.

    [11:15] When did you first suspect that you had a problem with drinking? She started at 13 or 14. She knew pretty early that she drank more than most. As she got older she used drinking as a coping mechanism. She surrounded herself with other drinkers. Had an epiphany when she came upon the book "Mrs. D is Going Without" by Lotta Dann. It changed her definition of an alcoholic and made her reassess her own drinking.

    [14:25] Did you ever try to quit prior to your successful attempt? Did you moderate or put rules into place? She tried it all. She drank heavily in university. As she got older, the hangovers became unbearable and her depression got worse. She began to rethink her drinking in her late 30's. She tried to moderate with restricting the day of the week or the type of drink and it only got worse.

    [16:00] Was your drinking tied in with your depression? How were they linked? She would always feel shame and embarrassment the days following a bout of heavy drinking.

    [17:17] Did you experience a rock bottom moment? She had many. One that stood out, she was studying and driving into town with a hangover for the 4th week in a row. She realized that she can't moderate and that it was having larger consequences than she liked and she decided to quit. She quit for 100 days, thought she was cured, relapsed and went back to drinking. Then she woke up and realized she had a problem. She wasn't going to wait for something more serious to happen before she quit.

    [21:00] How did you quit? What were your first few days like? She thinks drinking stunned her emotional growth. She had to relearn how to deal with stress and emotions. She had to learn how to be kind to herself. She had been previously been through some emotional trauma and the emotions bubbled up when she was sobered up. She finally processed the emotions and did some soul searching and now she feels lighter.

    [26:06] Can you think of an example in early sobriety in which you had to try a new coping mechanism? She always thought she wasn't good enough. The night her husband was injured she was pregnant and she almost lost her daughter and husband on the same night. When it bubbled up she cried and released the feelings.

    [27:35] Walk us through a typical day in your sobriety. How are you going to get to year 2? She is more kind to herself. She's made some friendship in online communities. She is interested in developing and maintaining real life connections with sober and like-minded people.

    [28:45] Why is it important to have those real life connections? She feels she can relax and be herself with no shame or judgment. Everyone supports one another. She laughs with her friends and truly enjoys being sober. [30:20] What have you learned most about yourself in sobriety? That she's okay. Her relationship with herself and her inner world has changed. She is now more content and proud of herself. [31:08] What's on your bucket list going forward in sobriety? To continue to develop real life friendships. To focus on her health and family. To raise her daughters with healthy inner dialogues. To instill awareness in her family that there is another way. To lead by example. [33:50] How did you end up buying a pub? She wasn't looking for a pub specifically, but it was just something she always wanted to do. They're changing it to be more of a family friendly place. [35:33] What will you do if you encounter an alcoholic in your restaurant? At first she was shameful about having a problem with drinking. She met someone with a problem and just reached out to them to let them know they were available.

    [37:30] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? The lack of memories. Her imagination would fill the gaps and it wasn't pleasant.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? The hangover after she relapsed after over 100 days sober.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? To continue to develop sober friendships. Keep pushing herself in positive directions. To keep living life and stay fit and active.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? Living Sober, a free online sober community based in New Zealand.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? Make the decision. You accept the step to move forward. It turns off the head chatter.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Picture yourself in 5 years time as a drinker. Create a vivid detailed picture.. are you still drinking? What are your relationships like? How do you feel? Now picture your sober future. How are they different? You might be an alcoholic if... you gulp down a first glass of wine before pouring two glasses of wine to bring out to your husband.

    Resources::

    In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts – a book by Gabor Maté Mrs. D is Going Without – a book by Lotta Dann Living Sober – A free online sober community

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 168: Alcohol Impacts More than Just Us May 07, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Amy. She's 33, from Wisconsin, with 422 days since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    When we are in the throws of an addiction to alcohol, the effects go beyond just us. They affect our family and those closest to us. After running the podcast for 3 years, Paul has begun to notice patterns emerging. One of the biggest patterns he noticed might be the key to successful sobriety: Accountability. Getting sober can be daunting, and the people around you are owed an explanation. The act of saying it out loud not only makes it real, but makes others aware of what you are trying to achieve. They can help keep you on track when things get difficult, and if your drinking has hurt anyone else in the past, it can be the first step towards forgiveness. Telling the people in your life that you are trying to get and stay sober is probably the most important thing you can do to affect your chances of success.

    SHOW NOTES

    [9:30] Paul Introduces Amy.

    Amy is 33 years old, from Wisconsin, married with 3 kids. She works in human resources in healthcare, but is about to leave her job and focus on her family full time. She likes yoga, and the outdoors.

    [12:00] What are your plans now that you are sober? She wants to get more involved in her community.

    [13:00] When did you realize it was time to quit drinking? She was having a hard time moderating, was losing control.

    [13:33] What rules did you have in place during your moderating phase? She and her husband tried only drinking on weekends, only when at restaurants, only certain kinds of drinks, only on payday, etc. It didn't work.

    [16:30] Is your husband supportive of your decision to get sober? Yes. He helps by not drinking around her and by keeping alcohol out of the house.

    [17:07] When did you start drinking? In high school. It got out of control in college. She adopted a party girl personality. She was drinking 4 beers a night. It progressed into a problem once she went through her first divorce. She felt hopeless and used alcohol to cope.

    [21:57] How did you decide to quit? She was drinking daily, feeling terrible. Some good things began to happen and she felt that it lifted her out of her funk. She got a new job, which enabled her to pay down her debt and she started taking care of herself again. She fell in love. The drinking was still crazy and she couldn't control it. She tried to take a break, but it wouldn't work. She was writing a lot in her journal, then went on an 8-day binge. She woke up from that and had hit rock bottom. She decided to quit on that day.. the difference was that she was ready to accept her situation.

    [27:30] What was it like to reach the point of acceptance? It was liberating. Acceptance brought self forgiveness, which enabled her to start moving forward in a new way.

    [31:30] How did you do it? How did you quit? She started to binge listen to recovery podcasts, she read This Naked Mind. She focused on being kind to herself. She reached out to sober friends and family. Connecting with close relatives and friends helped boost her confidence. They helped her get through the first few weeks. She began to see the bigger consequences of drinking on her health, career, relationships. Her husband supported her fully. [34:37] At what point did you begin to see the benefits? Day 2. The first few weeks there were headaches, sleep issues, etc. She experienced the pink cloud. She found out she was pregnant the month she quit drinking. She started looking at the bigger picture. She experienced normal activities as a sober person and was amazed at the difference. [39:46] What's on your bucket list? She's excited to be a stay-at-home mother soon. Many of her friends are reaching out to her in support of her sobriety.

    [42:33] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? Going to a concert and getting drunk, getting into a fight and walking around completely blacked out.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? She woke up one day with a damaged car but didn't remember what caused it.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? To really stay active in her community. To focus on her family. To meditate more. To exercise. Hang out with the family. Reading in the evening to wind down.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery?
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? Put your sobriety first. Before kids, marriage, career.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Educate yourself about alcoholism. The truth will give you the confidence to go forward knowing what you have to do. Life is too short to be drunk.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... You fear being a stay at home because you assume you will be drunk the whole time.

    Resources:

    This Naked Mind – A book by Annie Grace In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts – A book by Gabor Mate

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 167: Now This is Just Plain Wrong Apr 30, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Daniel, with 128 days since his last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    The alcohol industry gives the government funds to prove light drinking is safe. In today's era of information overload, it can be difficult to sort the truth from the strong opinions. As the lines between journalism, science and advertising continue to blur, it can become difficult to know where to stand when one can find a seemingly reputable article or study to support any side of any opinion. The alcohol industry is no stranger to the ways of public relations. The NIAAA (National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism) is a government established institution that funds approximately 90% of research on the effects of consuming alcohol in the US. Regarding a recent study on the effects of light drinking, it is no surprise to find out that $67 million was provided by 5 big alcohol companies, most likely to ensure that the results of the study fell in line with their message that alcohol is good for you. Remember that alcohol is still poison, it's still bad for you, and consuming alcohol still has real consequences, despite the what the heavily funded opinions of the alcohol industry would lead you to believe.

    SHOW NOTES

    [10:37] Paul Introduces Daniel. Daniel is 43 years old, has a girlfriend and an 8 year old daughter. He works in telecom sales and enjoys biking, running, and reading.

    [14:10] When did you first realize that you had a problem with drinking? In his early 20s. Alcoholism runs in his family. He started drinking regularly in high school, then it became excessive in college. In his mid 20's he began drinking in solitude.

    [18:15] Talk to us about the 20 years you were drinking. There were phases where he would think he was okay because he was functioning, but he would occasionally binge drink. He drank less after he got married in his late 20s but it eventually ramped up again. When he was binge drinking he wouldn't eat.

    [20:28] When did you first attempt to quit? He started going to AA in his mid 20s but he wasn't ready.

    [21:10] Did you experience a rock bottom? Did you have a faulty off switch? No, it was gradual. He would drink before work. He slowly lost control as depression and anxiety set in. He finally talked to his family and decided to go to a inpatient detox facility. It was difficult to stop once he started. He started drinking again after 25 days sober, thinking it was different.

    [26:30] Tell us about your experience with the incredibly short memory (ISM). He would find himself returning to the hospital after a short time away.

    [28:33] What inspired you to quit, most recently? His family. He spent some time away from them and it inspired him to quit. He experienced moments of clarity and made a decision. He found some supportive people to help him.

    [32:02] What were your first 30 days like? How did you deal with cravings? He drank a lot of seltzer water and non-alcoholic beer.

    [34:10] What is a typical day in your recovery? How have you made it to 128 days? He found a local AA group, and got a sponsor. He reads a lot. 4 or 5 AA meetings a week.

    [41:10] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? A horrible physical detox.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? He was drinking at work.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? He wants to stay accountable, and tell his story. Keep reading and learning.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? The books, podcasts, AA
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? Follow your drink to the end. You'll start with one drink but end with a three-day bender.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? If you're listening to RE, most likely you're heading down the path.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... If you go home and drink 8-12 beers, but then hide the cans so no one sees how much you drink, even though you live alone.

    Resources:

    Recovery – A book by Russell Brand This Naked Mind – a book by Annie Grace The Untethered Soul – by Michael Singer Girl Walks Out of a Bar – by Lisa Smith

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 166: Building Emotional Muscle Apr 23, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Samantha, with 18 days since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    A quote from "Drinking: A love Story" by Caroline Knapp sums up the theme for today's podcast: "Early sobriety has the quality of vigorous exercise, as though each repetition of a painful moment gone without a drink serves to build up emotional muscle." Life will happen. We can't control what challenges life will send our way but we can control how we respond. Each passing trial is an opportunity to build one's sobriety muscles, which get stronger over time as healthy habits and ways of thinking become more deeply ingrained. Quitting drinking is difficult because not only is alcohol physically addicting, but we often turn to alcohol to help us cope with life's many challenges. In sobriety, we find an opportunity to learn new coping skills and rewire our brain to handle difficult times without turning to alcohol for help.

    SHOW NOTES

    [7:20] Paul Introduces Samantha.

    Samantha is 27 years old, from Louisiana. She has a girlfriend and a cat, works at a lawfirm, likes music, travel, reading and listens to podcasts. She's a geography student, returning to school to finish her degree.

    [8:30] When did you first notice that you had a problem with drinking?

    In her early 20s. She used alcohol to deal with her anxiety. She thinks alcohol is a big part of society in Louisiana. She has family members that struggle with alcohol. An abusive relationship drove her to drinking more than normal. All of her friends seemed to drink a lot.

    [12:35] What did drinking a lot look like for you? Mostly just wine, and eventually whiskey, which became her alcohol of choice.

    [13:07] Did you ever put any rules into place to try and control your drinking? Yes, she would buy smaller bottles or only drink on weekends.

    [13:50] What was your rock bottom moment? Why did you decide to quit? Sick and tired of being sick and tired mostly. A therapist refused to see her while she was drinking. She was angry. She refused the rehab and kept drinking. A different time she had written in her journal about quitting drinking, only to go out later that night and black out again.

    [18:34] What was it like to break that promise to yourself? She woke up and felt terrible, shameful, embarrassed.

    [19:55] How has sobriety affected your borderline personality disorder? Her emotions are normally intense and fleeting. Alcohol helped her maintain an even keel. Without alcohol, she's switched to Zoloft. It's difficult to deal with strong emotions without alcohol. She's now optimistic about her future and has decided to go back to school, realizing that alcohol was getting in her way.

    [23:40] How has your behavior changed since you've quit? She goes to bars less. She is looking for more things to do at home. She's trying to fill the void left by alcohol with healthy activities.

    [24:40] Is your partner trying to get sober? No, she wants to stop but she is continuing. It's difficult to see her continue, not because it makes her want to drink, but because she sees the effect alcohol is having on her. [27:06] What benefits are you getting from quitting? Her skin cleared up. She's lost weight. Her emotions are easier to handle. She's now able to see that one drink may start well but it will lead to a terrible conclusion. [30:27] Have you lost anything to alcohol? She feels like she lost her dignity. Various memories from drinking make her feel shameful or embarrassed. [32:30] What advice would you give to your younger self? Not to smoke or drink ever! She received info about substances while in school, but feels like it had no impact. She would tell herself to love herself. She thinks loving oneself is the root of many of the decisions we make. [35:04] What is your proudest moment so far in sobriety? She was told that she was a great student by an old professor. Also, she went to a bar and didn't have any drinks. [36:30] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? During a flood in 2016, she was caught in a flash flood and had to be rescued while drunk.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? Her gf showed her a picture of her sleeping on the ground.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? She is going to connect with and stay close with sober friends. She will focus on her goals.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? Other sober people. Podcasts: Recovery Elevator, The Mental Illness, Happiness Hour, Crazy in Bed, Your own Magic,
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? Keep your goals in front of you. You can always go back to drinking.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Any amount of time drinking is a win. If you mess up, don't beat yourself up about it.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... "You get drunk at 10am at your grandmother's birthday party."

    Resources::

    Drinking: A Love Story – By Caroline Knapp The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck – by Mark Manson

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 165: Do I Have a Drinking Problem? Part II Apr 16, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Darla, with 3 years since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    "Do I have a drinking problem?" Part II

    The first episode under this particular theme came out back in March of 2015. In "Drinking: A Love Story" by Caroline Knapp, a questionnaire is presented that will help you determine whether or not you have a drinking problem, and if yes, at what stage your drinking problem is. See the questions below:

    1. Do you drink heavily when you are disappointed or have had a quarrel with someone? 2. When you have trouble or feel under pressure, do you always drink more heavily than usual?

    3. Can you handle more alcohol now than when you first started to drink?

    4. Have you ever been unable to remember part of the previous evening, even though your friends say you didn't pass out?

    5. When drinking with other people, do you try to have a few extra drinks when others won't know about it?

    6. Do you sometimes feel uncomfortable if alcohol is not available?

    7. Are you more in a hurry to get your first drink of the day than you used to be?

    8. Do you sometimes feel a little guilty about your drinking?

    9. Has a family member or close friend express concern or complained about your drinking?

    10. Have you been having more memory "blackouts" recently?

    11. Do you often want to continue drinking after your friends say they've had enough?

    12. Do you usually have a reason for the occasions when you drink heavily?

    13. When you're sober, do you sometimes regret things you did or said while drinking?

    14. Have you tried switching brands or drinks, or following different plans to control your drinking?

    15. Have you sometimes failed to keep promises you made to yourself about controlling or cutting down on your drinking?

    16. Have you ever tried to control your drinking by changing jobs or moving to a new location?

    17. Do you try to avoid family or close friends while you are drinking?

    18. Are you having more financial, work, school, and/or family problems as a result of your drinking?

    19. Do more people seem to be treating you unfairly, without reason?

    20. Do you eat very little or irregularly during the periods when you are drinking?

    21. Do you sometimes have the "shakes" in the morning and find that it helps to have a "little" drink, tranquilizer or medication of some kind?

    22. Have you recently noticed that you can't drink as much as you used to?

    23. Do you sometimes stay drunk for several days at a time? 24. Do you sometimes feel very depressed and wonder if life is worth living?

    25. After periods of drinking do you sometimes see or hear things that aren't there?

    26. Do you get terribly frightened after you have been drinking heavily?

    Know that actions often speak louder than words. If you are listening to a recovery podcast, filling out a recovery questionnaire, wondering whether or not you have a problem, then chances are your actions are telling you that you do. That conclusion is an okay place to be, too. Better to realize it earlier than later so you reach out and get help if you need it.

    SHOW NOTES

    [11:00] Paul Introduces Darla.

    Lives in Grand Junction, Colorado, 52 years old, mother of two.

    [13:00] When did you first realize that you had a problem with drinking? Drinking has been a part of her life for a long time but it never had power over her until her mid 40's. It happened gradually. She tried to control it with rules, but despite her efforts it continued to escalate.

    [16:00] How old were you when you put limits on your drinking? Around 45 she drank regularly and 46 it progressed.

    [16:54] Was there a specific stressor in your life at the time? The end of her marriage. Her therapist advised her to get a divorce. She had to get a restraining order. It was easy to lean on drinking because she grew up around it.

    [19:15] Did anyone in your family history struggle with alcohol? Her father's side. Her grandfather, father and brother. Others have issues with other kinds of addiction.

    [22:13] What were the rules you put in place to try to reign in your drinking? She tried to limit the day of the week. Her targets kept moving as she kept breaking her own rules. She felt like it was against her will.

    [23:33] Did you ever attempt to quit before this attempt? Not really. Despite a DUI, a court order to stop drinking, and CBT classes she continued to drink. When she quit, she was "white knuckling" it. She had moderate success but then binged at a holiday party, which lead her to another DUI and waking up in jail. The consequences terrified her and scared her enough to quit.

    [31:00] How did you end up quitting? She called a family attorney. She went to therapy, both individual and group. She ended up in AA.

    [32:45] What do you do when you get cravings? She recognizes the thoughts that lead to relapse. She still feels powerless against alcohol. [34:15] What unpleasant things did you have to do to stay sober? She went to AA. She didn't want to admit that she was an alcoholic. She didn't want to admit that she was afraid. She had to accept the circumstances. [35:35] Has being in recovery helped you at work? It gave her a level of compassion others may not have. She can help guide people toward resources. She's letting people know about it slowly, especially at work. [40:20] Why are you going to attend the Cafe RE trip to Peru? She wants to challenge herself. She wants to seize new opportunities.

    [41:22] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? Waking up in a jail cell and not remembering how she got there.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? Going in to work hungover, knowing that she wasn't able to drive.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? Keep doing the one day at a time.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? Meditation, exercise, activities, service / helping others.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? Get out her own head and to help others. Helps with cravings, anxiety.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Examine yourself. Are you willing to do whatever it takes?
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... "you come to in jail, in a suicide suit, and you wonder where the rest of the bottle is."

    Resources:

    Drinking: A Love Story – A book by Caroline Knapp

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 164: Do the Medications Work? Apr 09, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Ed, with 11 days since his last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Do the medications work? Paul reads messages he received from different podcast listeners about their experiences with some of the various medications often prescribed as quit aids for quitting drinking. Though they are not known to be an effective all-in-one cure for alcoholism, they appear to be a positive piece to the recovery portfolio for some.

    SHOW NOTES

    [6:20] Paul Introduces Ed.

    Sober for 11 days. Has been on Naltrexone for 6 years. 40 years old. Research scientist, molecular biologist. Has two young children. Really enjoying his work. Started to drink more seriously during mid 20's.

    [10:13] At what point did Naltrexone enter the picture? During his mid 30's. He was falling down stairs and wetting his bed on the weekends, yet he was still in denial. He sought out a medicine to help with his hangover symptoms, found the Sinclair method on the internet.

    [13:05] Did you go straight to Naltrexone or did you try other methods first? He went to his doctor and asked him about Naltrexone. He had tried AA but didn't like it. The doctor was cautious, but gave him the green light.

    [15:10] Having used Naltrexone, what is your take on alcoholism being defined as a disease? Alcoholism is definitely a disease. It runs in families, etc. People who don't have the disease don't understand what it's like. People drink for different reasons, but once addicted people are equal.

    [17:16] Where is the disconnect between the recovery and medical communities? Not enough research in general, and in recovery methods. The numbers we are working with today probably aren't the whole picture. Not tied into addiction in general. One thing he wants to emphasize is that Naltrexone should not be used by an alcoholic to try and drink like a normal person. It can help someone quit but should only be used for that. If you are already quit, stay quit.

    [21:22] If it feels more or less under control at this point, why aim for total abstinence? He isn't getting anything out of it at all anymore. He feels the overall force of alcohol in our lives is destructive. He feels great.

    [24:44] Where are you at with cravings? Cravings are decreased with Naltrexone. He likes not closing the door completely because he feels like he can fit in. It's easier to just have a little bit.

    [26:08] What about your friends who had a negative experience with Naltrexone? One friend ended up going on Naltrexone. He used it moderately and it had negative effects. Moderate reward can be more addicting than regular reward.

    [29:00] Are you tempted to not use the pill? He's tempted but has never broken the rule, which is why he feels he's been successful so far. [30:09] How does your routine work with the pill? He just takes it every day. [31:15] Do you agree that Naltrexone only cures the physical part of alcohol addiction? Yes. It's why it may not work for everyone. It only address the physical part, but doesn't address the mental and spiritual parts of alcohol addiction. [35:20] Do you think it is fear that is keeping you from aiming for complete abstinence? It plays a part. It's difficult to leave behind. He recognizes the fear but knows that he's strong enough to overcome it and move forward with his life in a healthy and positive way.

    [36:07] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? On a ski trip, he drank much more than everyone else. He wet the bed in front of all of his friends.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? Out with friends, he realized he was the drunk that everyone used to compare themselves to.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? Keep working on the mental and spiritual aspects of this. Aiming for abstinence.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? Online forum: Sinclair method.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? Can't do it alone. Hear the stories. Reach out.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Alcoholism is a monster. Don't underestimate it. Try AA, etc. Don't give up.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... you find yourself in Safeway buying 3 tall cans of Miller high life and behind you is a homeless man in line buying the same thing.

    Resources:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 163: Want to Know Why You Drink? Quit Drinking and You'll Find Out Apr 02, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Briddick, with 112 days since his last drink. When we no longer drink alcohol, the many reasons we used to drink come bubbling to the surface. What may have started out as a fun activity or a social lubricant often morphs into a way to (not) deal with life's problems. The barrage of pro-alcohol messages from media and society has the potential to pull the wool over our eyes as the addictive nature of alcohol quietly gets the better of our innocent intentions. Alcohol promises to help you numb the pain, lower your inhibitions or distance yourself from your problems, but the effect is only temporary. In fact, it often breaks the aforementioned promises and will usually make a bad situation worse. The avoidance of difficult emotions or situations is likely futile. Choosing to face your problems seems daunting when we are used to drinking them away, but gets easier with practice.

    SHOW NOTES

    [8:08] Paul Introduces Briddick. Briddick is 33 years old, lives in Bellingham, Washington, works in Real Estate, has a girlfriend and a step-son, plays soccer, plays guitar, travel and the outdoors.

    [11:15] What was it like for you being self employed? Heavy drinking was normalized. There was no boss to tell him to stop. Everyone was doing it. He used alcohol to unwind.

    [13:00] When did you first start to realize that you might have a problem with drinking? Late 20's. He started in high school, but it gradually escalated until he had difficulty stopping once he started.

    [14:50] What was it like to drink before soccer games? For 3 years, he drank before sports. He thought it was normal. He felt terrible physically. He feels lucky that he didn't hurt anyone during sports or driving.

    [16:18] Did you attempt to moderate your drinking, and to what success? He would avoid drinking in the morning, and avoid hard alcohol. After 3pm it was free for all.

    [17:38] Tell us about your anxiety attacks in your early 30's. Panic attacks are the worst. You feel something is terribly wrong but you don't know what it is and you can't fix it. Right around lunch time he would get panic attacks. The anxiety attacks went away when he quit drinking.

    [19:48] What was your reaction to removing alcohol from the situation? Floored. The anxiety went away. The weight stays off. He sleeps better. He feels more emotionally stable.

    [21:13] What was the time frame like for you in regards to the anxiety? Within the first week. He had a breakdown that lasted for three days. "A bad day for the ego is a good day for the soul." There is a normal amount of anxiety in anyone's life. Meditation helps.

    [23:59] How did you do it? He knew inside for years that he was an alcoholic but didn't want to admit it. He eventually admitted it and had a breakdown. He took it seriously, and treated it like stage 4 cancer. He went to meetings with a friend. The friend is not his sponsor. On step 4. [27:28] What have you learned most about yourself since you've quit drinking? That he can do it. I can make the choice to not drink today. It's not about willpower. [28:41] What's on your bucket list in sobriety? He started playing guitar again. He's learned that he can only focus on one thing at a time. He wants to run a marathon. He wants to keep traveling. He is finding joy in the little things.

    [30:15] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? Waking up with shaking hands and realizing that he was powerless. He regrets rude behavior and drunk driving.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment?
    3. What's your plan moving forward? Staying close to his sponsor and the steps. Enthusiasm can't be your primary engine.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? The AA community. RE podcast.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (in sobriety)? You don't have to stay sober forever, just stay sober today.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Get off the fence. Admit it if you can't stop and if you can't stop, be serious about it because it will kill you.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... you find empty wine bottles in your car's glove compartment and side consoles that you don't remember.

    Resources:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 162: Things Your Addiction Will Say in Your Own Voice Mar 26, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Mike, with almost two years since his last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Your addiction will often appear to you as a voice in your head that sounds like your own rational thoughts. It will tell you that it's not really that big of a deal, that you are really in control or, in many cases, will conveniently wipe your memory (the ISM or "incredibly short memory") so you won't recall what a tough time you had getting through that last hangover. Be on the lookout for justification phrases such as: "But I didn't really have a problem before" "Everyone else drinks like I do" "This next time will be different" "I've quit once, I can quit again" "The only person you're negatively affecting is yourself" "I'm cured! I just went [X amount of time] without drinking!" "Everyone else is having so much fun" "I got this." Stay vigilant in protecting your subconscious mind from thoughts like these and you will have an easier time avoiding relapse. It's much easier to stay sober than it is to get sober, and staying sober isn't always easy.

    SHOW NOTES

    [8:05] Paul Introduces Mike. Sober over 600 days. 37 years old, from California. A professional musician that has worked in California, Boston and around China, as well. He now lives with his girlfriend in Hong Kong. Mike does for the show notes for each podcast episode.

    [11:10] You quit drinking and smoking at the same time? Yes. Smoking was getting in the way of his singing. He read Allen Carr's "Easy Way To Quit Smoking" and at some point he realized that he wouldn't be able to quit smoking without quitting drinking. He committed to 30 days. Felt great so he kept going.

    [13:58] When did you realize you were going to have to quit drinking also?

    When he moved in with his girlfriend. He realized that his actions were having consequences that were affecting other people, and that if he really cared about this person and himself, he would have to clean up his act.

    [15:45] What were the indicators that you had a problem with drinking and/or smoking? He had a therapy session, and the therapist helped him realize that his problem was the drinking, and not what he had thought.

    [18:27] At that point, did you attempt to quit or moderate? Yes. Upon advice from his father, he tried to moderate his drinking by only drinking during work hours. It was a form of torture as his whole day became centered around waiting for work to begin. Eventually it lead to him breaking the rule and drinking all day for weeks.

    [20:23] So the willpower technique was torture? Yes. While the rules were in place he found himself constantly distracted and thinking about drinking. His brain was hijacked by both tobacco and alcohol.

    [22:40] How did you get through those difficult cravings after you quit? He started learning martial arts, and it gave him the tools he had been missing. Previously, he had been using alcohol to relax intense feelings of anxiety or discomfort, but now he was able to use the techniques that he learned at the martial arts classes.

    [24:25] Was everyone kung fu fighting? In Hong Kong, not as much, but globally, yes.. more people are practicing Kung Fu now than ever before.

    [26:54] What do you do when the uncomfortable feelings or cravings come? He focuses on the physical sensations of the craving. He tries to keep his body from becoming static, and thus paralyzed by the craving. He breathes, moves, walks, gets fresh air, whatever is necessary to keep the craving from tensing him up. [29:19] What is it like to continue working in the nightlife now that you're sober? When you're still drinking, even the thought of trying to quit seems like an insurmountable task, but once you've quit and, inevitably, you change the way you see things, the environment in which you were in before is not what it seemed. [32:30] What's on your sobriety bucket list going forward? He's interested in the physical activities he always turned down while he was drinking and smoking. He wants to travel more and say yes to the things he said no to in the past. [34:05] What is it like to not have the addiction causing you to feel unsolicited fear? It's liberating. There are so many positive experiences to be had in life. Sobriety is an opportunity that begets other opportunities.

    [34:53] What is it like to be in recovery in Hong Kong?

    He knows someone who has been to AA in Hong Kong but he hasn't been to any meetings himself, yet. He found solace in online resources, and he considers his online communities to be his recovery community. [37:10] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? A really bad hangover in which he could barely function.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? His skype call with the therapist during which she pointed out that his main problem was probably drinking. Before that conversation with her, he had asked his friends about his drinking and they had all reassured him that it was normal. She was the first one to point out that it was probably the cause of his issues.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? To continue to set my priorities on health, not overdoing it, to take it a day at a time, never say that "I got this", to stay vigilant and positive.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? The Recovery Elevator podcast, That Sober Guy podcast, Belle's One Minute Message podcast. The Allen Carr books.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (in sobriety)? To begin today. If you are suffering, definitely begin today. Don't be afraid, it's better on the other side.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? To begin, to stay focused and to not beat yourself up.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... it's ever an absolute emergency that you don't have alcohol, and you find yourself planning accordingly.

    Resources::

    Easy Way To Quit Smoking – A quit aid by Allen Carr. 30 Day No Alcohol Challenge – A quit aid by James Swanick Standing at the Water's Edge – A book about creative immersion by Dr. Anne Paris

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 161: Where Does Sobriety Stand on Your Priority List? Mar 19, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Ryan, with over two since his last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    If you haven't done so already, make sobriety your number one priority. It may seem selfish to prioritize yourself over other things, but to really be present and of service to our loved ones and the community at large, we must take care of ourselves. When we root ourselves in something real, concrete and bigger than ourselves, our daily struggles and problems often feel small by comparison. "Everything's going to be okay as long as we don't drink."

    SHOW NOTES

    [9:10] Paul Introduces Ryan. Ryan's been sober for over two years. He decided to quit after a trip to the hospital. He's from Dallas, TX. Works for an ad agency. Has a 3-year-old son. Has a dog. Is currently focused on raising his son. He and his wife enjoy scuba diving.

    [12:45] When did you first notice that you had a problem with drinking? It began in college. He noticed it affected him differently than other people. He experienced withdrawal symptoms early on after casually drinking. A trip to the doctor put things in perspective for him. The doctor asked him to quit for 30 days, and he realized that he couldn't stop.

    [17:41] What age were you when you realized you had a problem? Late 20's.

    [18:10] So what happened from late 20's until now? He tried many different things. A therapist diagnosed him as depressed. He was medicated. They assumed the problem was something other than alcohol. He drank while medicated and had a psychotic episode. He cut out the medication but kept drinking. He had a week to himself and he drank the whole time. His anxiety increased dramatically. He started hiding his alcohol from his partner.

    [23:20] Did things change when your child was born? Eventually. The morning he found out his wife was pregnant he tried to quit. His drinking got worse. As the due date approached his fear increased. He made sure he had emergency alcohol nearby in case they had to run to the hospital. His worst memory from drinking was being drunk for the birth of his child. He kept drinking after the birth. His wife got involved and tried to help him quit. He continued drinking even while seeing his therapist. Finally went to detox and felt like he was saying goodbye to his best friend. He did an intensive outpatient program. Joined AA. Started working the steps.

    [32:05] Talk to us about the time between your treatment and your sobriety date. He relapsed once. He learned that a relapse happens long before your first drink. He thought he just needed time, but he learned that his thoughts lead to his relapse. He began hiding liquor again. It came back in full force. He realized what he had given up by going back to drinking.

    [34:35] So how did you end up quitting again? What is your recovery like today? The relapse made him realize that he was powerless over alcohol. He stepped up his commitment to AA. He found sobriety groups to be a part of. His family responsibilities fuel his sobriety.

    [37:00] What was it like to include your partner in your sobriety? It was a great decision. It tested the relationship, but they came out stronger. She quit drinking as well.

    [39:10] What's on your bucket list in sobriety? I just want to be my best. [39:40] What is your plan in sobriety moving forward? It's all about making the next right decision. Focus on what one can control.

    [40:45] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking?
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? During his last relapse, he realized "I don't got this".
    3. What's your plan moving forward?
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? His family. This podcast is his favorite.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "KISS". Keep it simple stupid.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? If you can do this, you can do anything.. and you can do this. You're gaining more than you're giving up.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... you end up in the hospital because you didn't drink.

    Resources:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 160: Made a Searching and Fearless Moral Inventory Mar 12, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Kerry, with 12 days since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Step Four – "Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves"

    The Recovery Elevator Podcast isn't affiliated with Alcoholics Anonymous, but we cover the steps due to listener demand. For easy lookup: episode 142 was Step 1 episode 146 was Step 2 episode 152 was Step 3. The fourth step is probably everyone's least favorite step, as it involves things we don't want to do... face our past, our mistakes, our scary thoughts, emotions and current problems. Though it can be scary, it is still one of the most important steps in recovery. Alcoholism is merely a symptom of underlying inner conflict, delusions and/or flaws in our character that need to be faced, and where possible, overcome.

    The key is honesty. While working step four, we get a new perspective on the bigger picture and see ourselves and our behavior in a new way that helps us to move forward without fear and allows us to embrace a healthy self-image. This step is all about bringing unconscious behavior to light. We gradually realize that only we can change, and not change others. This step is meant to be done with your sponsor.

    SHOW NOTES

    [13:25] Paul Introduces Kerry. Kerry lives in Los Angeles, is 47 years old, is married, has two children and four dogs. She loves reading, the movies, traveling, and book stores.

    [17:40] When did you first realize that you had a problem with drinking? In her 40's. She started in her teens, and as an adult, she drank daily. She struggled to stay sober while she was pregnant. Her drinking ramped up after her second child, in her 40's. She thought her drinking was normal, so she found it hard to believe she had a problem.

    [22:00] What were some of the rules you put in place? She tried to only have a glass of wine with dinner, but it didn't work. She tried to insert a glass of water between each glass of wine. The rules didn't work, which only made her feel down on herself.

    [25:00] When was your first attempt to quit? 2 and ½ years ago. Her friends invited her to AA meetings. She "white knuckled it" about three weeks. Relapsed. This added more shame, which leads to more drinking. She kept trying and has been in and out since then.

    [27:20] Was there one moment that changed it for your or was you generally sick and tired? She was sick and tired. She became ashamed when her daughter witnessed her really drunk.

    [29:00] What are some of the things in your recovery portfolio and what will you do to make it stick this time? She wakes up early and meditates. She reads a chapter of "Living Sober" every day. She reaches out to sober friends. She goes to meetings occasionally.

    [32:49] What benefits do you see with 12 days in sobriety? More energy. Better sleep. No hangovers. Being more aware and present for her kids. Better memory.

    [34:41] How are you overcoming the internal dialogue that is trying to convince you to drink? She knows it's her addiction talking and it helps her to compartmentalize the thought. She uses meditation techniques to let it pass.

    [36:40] How has it been with your husband? He's been supportive. He also thought she was drinking too much. He's compassionate and helpful.

    [40:35] What's on your bucket list in recovery? She loves traveling. She intends to use the money saved by not drinking to fund a trip to Amsterdam. She wishes to be more present for herself and her family. [43:10] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? Before she got married, she went to a dinner party and got drunk. She left the party without telling anyone, and she threw up on the subway.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? Her husband noticed that she was slurring her words and pulled aside to ask her to stop drinking.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? Keep up with the morning meditation. More meetings. Find a sponsor and work the steps.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? She likes reading other people's stories. She's reading the books by Caroline Knapp and Sarah Hepola. (See mentioned resources below)
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Follow the drink to the end". One glass isn't just one glass.. it ends up with her throwing up and a terrible hangover.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Just do it. Start today. Don't set a date, just do it today.
    1. You might be an alcoholic if... You open a bottle of wine, pour out two glasses and pour the rest down the drain. Then, after you've had the two glasses, you go out to the liquor store and buy more wine to keep drinking.

    Resources:

    Recovery: Freedom from Our Addictions – A book by Russell Brand

    Living Sober – an introduction to AA and recovery. Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget – by Sarah Hepola

    Drinking: A Love Story – by Caroline Knapp

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


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