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    Recovery Elevator

    It’s not a NO to alcohol — it’s a YES to a better life!
    Bestselling author Paul Churchill interviews people who have successfully quit drinking, offering an honest, uplifting look at what an alcohol-free life can really look like. Each week, Recovery Elevator explores sobriety from fresh perspectives — no judgment, no lectures, just real stories from real people.
    Whether you’re sober curious, newly sober, supporting a loved one, or already thriving in recovery, you’ve found your community.

    Topics include: how to stop drinking alcohol, alcohol addiction and dependency, whether moderate drinking actually works, what happens to your brain when you quit drinking, the role of spirituality in recovery, whether AA is right for you, tracking sobriety milestones, and whether addiction might be trying to tell you something.

    If alcohol is making you sick and tired, Recovery Elevator is your invitation to explore what life on the other side looks like — through candid conversations and inspiring guest stories.

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    RE 159: I'm Breaking Up With the Word Alcoholic... Again Mar 05, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Jim, with 57 days since his last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    "Enhanced Dopamine Receptors" or EDR The word "alcoholic" carries such a stigma in today's society and also implies that one's addiction to alcohol is somehow different compared to other addictions. A more accurate way to describe the situation of those struggling with alcohol or any addiction is that they have "enhanced dopamine receptors."

    SHOW NOTES

    [11:00] Paul Introduces Jim. Jim is 47 years old, lives in Waukegan, Illinois. He's a truck driver and a father, with a 12-year-old son. He enjoys reading and working out.

    [12:37] When did you realize you had a problem with alcohol? He always knew that he drank more than "normal people." Started drinking early at 14. In recent years it became a problem. Recently he drank an entire weekend.

    [14:30] Are you viewing it as a permanent decision? Yes, and he arrived at that decision because the moderate approach never seemed to work. "It's a hell of a lot easier to stay sober than to get sober."

    [16:10] Did you try to regulate your drinking in any way? Yes, he put rules in place and actually followed them, but suffered the entire time.. and it made him realize that he had a drinking problem.

    [19:40] Did you hit rock bottom? He believes he's a high bottom drunk. Most of the conflict was in his head. His bottom was more of an emotional bottom.

    [20:55] Were those emotions the reason you quit drinking? His inner dialogue was mostly negative. He drank mostly to silence his thoughts.

    [23:04] What were your repeated Day 1's like and how did you break the cycle? He made a commitment to myself, to be honest about it. He decided he wasn't going to let it beat him. He gave himself permission to fail.

    [27:04] How did you break the hamster wheel? He went to AA; he joined online groups, he started going to therapy. He made a "relapse prevention kit". The danger was usually boredom and over analysis.

    [28:50] How do you deal with cravings? He differentiates between cravings and urges. He realized that they're temporary. "Don't make a permanent solution to a temporary situation." The feelings will not last forever. [30:00] What have you learned about yourself in your sobriety? He says he still needs a lot of work. He has to be vigilant to ensure he's pointed in the right direction.

    [32:30] What is your proudest moment in sobriety? Staying sober for this long. He intends to keep going. [33:30] What was the retreat like for you? One of the best things he ever did. He enjoyed it thoroughly.

    [36:25] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? As a teenager, drank tequila. Got sick, threw up his retainer.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? When he drank all weekend.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? Just continue on the path. Continue to learn.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery?
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "Don't judge your insides by someone else's outsides."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Start stacking days. It's easier to stay sober than to get sober. You're not making any sacrifices; you're gaining opportunities.

    Resources:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 158: Is Everyone Really Drinking? Feb 26, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Anna, with over 17 years since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    "Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting" You can't always believe what you hear. Just because we believe that everybody was kung fu fighting, doesn't mean that everyone was actually kung fu fighting. In fact, upon further research, it turns out that no one was kung fu fighting in the original music videos for this song. The same applies to "Everybody drinks". When we drink, our beliefs about everyone drinking around us probably don't reflect reality. We feel that we have no choice because, in our minds, we are surrounded by drinking. Studies show that over one third of adults refrain from drinking alcohol and even more drink very moderately. In sobriety, we have an opportunity to redefine "normal". We are relieved to let go of the trapping idea that we are forced to consume alcohol to fit in.

    SHOW NOTES

    [10:40] Paul Introduces Anna. Anna is from Marin County. She's a writer. She has a cat, a boyfriend and a recovery podcast/company.

    [14:30] What are you working on right now? She realized that the publishing business was not for her. She's now focusing on building her own audience and connecting with them and helping them directly.

    [21:25] When did you first realize you had a problem with drinking and/or drugs? She realized she had a problem when she began using drugs in her apartment alone. It got very dark and she didn't want to get sober but she realized that she had no other choice.

    [24:15] What kind of role did alcohol play in substance abuse? She never realized she had a problem because she was more focused on cocaine. In rehab they tried to tell her that drinking was connected and she didn't believe them, which lead to relapse.

    [27:26] Which drug had more of a grip on you at the time?

    It turns out it was both, even though she thought it was only cocaine.

    [28:00] Talk to us about alcohol being the gateway drug for you. While under the influence are alcohol, she lost her ability to say no to the other drugs.

    [31:15] What have you learned from your long term sobriety? She learned how sensitive she is. She learned that emotions are fleeting and won't last forever. She's learned how to accept people for how they behave.

    [33:50] What role does self-loathing or self-love play in sobriety?

    She believes that alcoholism is about ego-centrism and the spotlight effect. We assume everything is focused on us. She learned that we can change our behavior and rewire our bad habits. Forgive yourself for your mistakes, and break down the negative thinking.

    [39:16] What would you say to someone on day 1? Go to a meeting, connect with a sobriety community. [41:08] How are you continuing to stay sober? She goes to a couple meetings a week. She goes to therapy, she meditates, she exercises. [42:28] What do you still want to accomplish in sobriety going forward? She believes in visualization.

    [43:10] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? She accidentally snorted special K thinking it was cocaine.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? Nothing special happened that day, but she just acted and got sober.
    3. What's your plan moving forward?
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? She loves "Blackout" by Sarah Hepolah. "Everything is horrible and wonderful". Also an accountability group.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? Re-frame depression as discomfort. Life is a process of getting comfortable with discomfort. We get what we want out of life when we stop insisting on it.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking?
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... You spend more time obsessing over alcohol or drugs.

    Resources:

    Letting Go – David Hawkins

    Light Hustler – Anna's website Blackout, Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget – A book by Sarah Hepolah Everything is Horrible and Wonderful – A book by Stephanie Wachs

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 157: Don't Alcoholics Live Under Bridges? Feb 19, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Kim, with less than 1 year since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Many of the stereotypes surrounding alcoholism don't match up with reality. The image of the homeless guy holding the bottle in a brown paper bag and living under a bridge doesn't correctly represent the average alcoholic, despite the image's popularity. Recent data shows that only 3-5% of alcoholics are homeless or on the street. As a group, alcoholics have enhanced dopamine receptors. They tend to be overachievers, over-workers, over-thinkers, and over-creators. They come from many demographics and many age groups. When Paul compiled the data for the RE podcast, he wasn't surprised to find a diverse pool of listeners, both married and single, educated and uneducated, rich and poor.

    SHOW NOTES

    [12:42] Paul Introduces Kim. 5 months sober. From Buffalo NY, lives in Chicago, 36yo, works in digital marketing. Loves billiards, volleyball, spa and travel. Currently working towards a masters in digital communication.

    [15:00] When did you begin to realize you had a problem with alcohol? She fell ill and ended up in the hospital with a bleeding stomach. The doctor recommended that she quit. She quit briefly but ended up relapsing and found herself back in the hospital again. Second doctor also recommended sobriety.

    [18:40] What was it like when the second doctor told you it was life or death? The second doctor gave her lots of attention and encouraged her to get into AA. She was humbled and blown away by the personal touch. The doctor's previous patient was someone in the later stages of alcoholism and he warned her not to follow the same path. She then got 8 months of sobriety after.

    [20:27] Did you end up going to your first meeting? She did. She gave it a shot but it didn't feel like a good fit. She didn't connect with the people.

    [21:44] How did you come to relapse after the 8 month period? She took a trip to Mexico, and saw everyone around her drinking, which enabled her to justify having a few drinks. She decided she was treating herself.

    [22:40] How was the rest of the vacation? She didn't have any problems in Mexico, but she convinced herself that it wasn't a big deal and she opened the door to alcohol coming back in to her life. She gradually slipped back in to her old habits.

    [24:25] What happened after you begin to let alcohol back into your life? She spent a lot of time hungover. She spent a lot of money at IV ME

    [25:16] Were you sick and tired of being sick and tired? She was feeling run down and depressed. At this point she knew better and she was disappointed in herself.

    [26:20] During your Labor Day holiday, were you drinking by yourself? Yes. She felt left out and depressed. She doesn't remember doing her Fantasy Football League draft. [28:33] What was the next day like for you? She called an Uber, but made it turn around because she didn't feel up to it. Later that night she went to her therapist and he helped her see that she was choosing her behavior. [30:00] Were you fully honest with your therapist? Yes, he knew about her behavior. [30:42] Have you figured out why you were drinking? She thinks it's because she wants to fit in and be included. [33:33] What would you consider your rock bottom moment? Definitely in the hospital. Repeating the process, paying the money again even though she knew what the problem was. This time she wanted it to be different. She needed to know her other options. She ended up finding Smart Recovery. She began exploring other options she had never considered. She finally clicked with a sponsor and has even flown out to visit her in person. [36:27] What was the Dallas Cafe RE retreat like for you? She loved it. She found validation. It made her feel more comfortable. She found that there are other people just like her.

    [39:30] What are your thoughts on Smart Recovery? It's more science based. It focuses on thinking and behavior, goal setting. It focuses on short term goals. Everyone shares in the meeting. [40:53] What is your proudest moment in sobriety?

    Sharing her story to help others. She's blogging and making videos and she's getting feedback. She has a recovery website: Brighter Mornings. [41:49] What was it like to publish for the first time? She planned the release. The accountability was scary for her. She became excited at the thought of reaching people that might be struggling with alcohol. [43:15] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? Waking up at an ex's house, not knowing how long she had been there or what she was doing there.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? Sitting in the I.V. Me facility, running out of money.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? To continue to research. Build a community. Keep her sobriety blog and brunch club.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? The Happy Hour. The Naked Mind. Smart Recovery. Recovery Elevator. Meeting new people in person and online from the sober community.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? It's not changing something, it's changing everything.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Don't question it. Just do it. It's not easy, but it's worth it.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... If you call into your job hungover on day 3.

    Resources:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 156: Progress Not Perfection Feb 12, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Katie, with 496 days since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    In this episode, Paul vents a little bit of his frustration and anger in recovery about AA and "big alcohol". Without alcohol in our lives to help us deal with difficult emotions.. anger, resentment, and frustration (to name a few) often rise to the surface. Paul expresses his concern for the abundance of alcohol in society, despite the overwhelming evidence that it is destructive and harmful.

    SHOW NOTES

    [12:00] Paul Introduces Katie. Katie is 29 years old, originally from New York, but lived in Colorado for a while and now lives in Dallas, Texas. Since quitting drinking and she is now into fitness. She recently ran her first half marathon. [15:45] How did you realize you had a problem and how did you get sober? Katie drank a lot in school. After college, she moved to Denver. She started going out every night, and developed insomnia. Went to the doctor, was prescribed Xanax. The medication eventually stopped working. The insomnia continued. She medicated on both ends of her sleep.

    [19:50] When did you realize the core problem wasn't being solved? In Dallas, the doctors tried to taper down her medications.

    [23:33] When did rehab enter the picture? She felt alone and stuck. She broke down in her apartment. While moving, she found pills that she was hiding from herself. While her father was helping her move, they went to therapy and had a break down in front her her therapist and her father. Therapist told her she was still young and had a lot of life in front of her.

    [27:45] You realized you had a drinking problem while in rehab? Yes. She was in denial about why she was going. Thought it was just for rest. Left sober, but with the intention of using her meds normally, or as prescribed. In rehab, she slept well. She was going to try to use meds to stay sober... realized she was an alcoholic.

    [30:35] What was it like after? Returning to Dallas was tough. She had no support structure. Started to make friends through the sober community. Got into fitness. Met a guy who was a big drinker, turns out he had been sober for a while and understood her situation.

    [37:00] How did you overcome the desire to relapse? She lost a romantic partner, and it was difficult. She insisted on making it to 1 year, though. She realized that emotions are fleeting.

    [38:10] What is your proudest moment in sobriety? She's visiting her best friend from college. They're celebrating sobriety together. She's also found out that many other people are getting sober. [40:26] What is something that you've learned about yourself in sobriety? She's resilient. She's been hitting her fitness goals more easily.

    [41:41] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? Woke up in a disgusting apartment with bug bites.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? The moment of clarity in rehab.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? Focus on the positive, and keeping the eye on the prize. Don't mess with the routine.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? Her gym. A tough workout, with intention setting.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? It's a lot easier to stay sober than it is to get sober.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Just try it. You can always go back to the life with alcohol.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... You have a parking permit at the liquor store so you can park there without worrying about driving drunk.

    Resources:

    The Sober Truth – a book by Lance and Zachary Dodes, debunking recovery programs From Death Do I Part – a book by Amy Lee Coy, her story about overcoming addiction

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 155: Filling the Void Left By Alcohol Feb 05, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Chrissy, with 2 and ½ years. In the interview, she talks about how she married her drinking buddy.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    "For us to be successful in sobriety, we must fill the void left by alcohol." -Russel Brand, Recovery: Freedom from Our Addictions

    Drinking plays a big role in our lives. Many of our social gatherings revolve around it. We use it to relax or to deal with difficult emotions. When we quit drinking, a void is then created that can be felt across many areas of our lives. What do we do with this? Should we fill it? With what?

    When the void is present, some try to use willpower to ignore it or to muscle through or around it. Unfortunately, studies show that willpower is a finite resource and can not be solely relied upon to quit successfully. If the void (also known as the emotional and spiritual causes of alcoholism) isn't properly dealt with, one can become what is known as a "dry drunk." The behaviors, coping mechanisms, and mindsets of the alcoholic are still present; the only difference is the lack of alcohol consumption.

    In sobriety, we find ourselves with more... more time, more energy, and more mental clarity. It's important to fill this time and spend this energy in a healthy and productive way so that the reasons for the void's existence begin to disappear as we lay a healthy and solid foundation for living. Find things you like to do, and more importantly, find the communities surrounding those activities and do your best to become a part of them.

    SHOW NOTES

    [12:50] Paul Introduces Chrissy.

    Chrissy has been sober for 2 and ½ years. She's from Mill Valley, California. 48 years old. District Sales Manager. Mother of two teenage boys. She has two dogs. Married.

    [14:42] When did you first realize you had a drinking problem?

    She used to be in denial. She married her drinking buddy. Started dabbling to get out of her head. Became a problem when she moved to a town where everyone drank. Started drinking daily. Lead to a health scare.

    [17:10] What was it like to find out you had Grade A Liver Cirrhosis?

    She lost a lot of weight. She was mistaken for someone who was pregnant. Ignored swelling abdomen and yellow eyes. Eventually couldn't ignore symptoms. The doctor called her an alcoholic. She says the doctor is a good place to go for help.

    [20:50] Did you ever attempt to moderate or control your drinking?

    She always tried to manage it. She had an idea for a perfect medium buzz. The health scare is what made her consider quitting.

    [22:47] What was it like when you first quit?

    It took a few weeks for her body to repair itself. She now gets checked up regularly.

    [25:30] What did you learn about yourself during this process?

    Once the fog was lifted, she began to ponder why she drank. Now she says it isn't important. It's more important to stay sober. Year 1 was "how do I stay sober?" and now year 2 is "how do I manage my emotions?". Year 3 is now easier and more relaxing.

    [27:10] What was it like to cut ties with alcohol completely?

    She felt like she was kicking her best friend to the curb. She had to get it out of her immediate surroundings. At first, she felt sad, was white knuckling it. Now she feels that quitting drinking was the one thing that changed her life completely.

    [31:17] What does a day in recovery look like for you?

    A neighbor took her to a meeting. Found a sponsor. Podcasts. Reading books. Surrounding myself with sobriety. Changed her priorities.. recovery, then family, then work.

    [33:25] What was it like to marry your drinking buddy?

    She used to blame him a lot for her drinking. She noticed that he drinks less. They did therapy together. She's focusing on herself. She's not sure whether or not her husband is an alcoholic. [36:00] What advice do you have for someone in recovery which is with someone who drinks?

    Changed her perspective. Release me from the bondage of "self". She focuses on herself. She sees her partner more with compassion.

    [39:40] What do you have to say to a person who is scared of quitting because they feel they might become depressed?

    Reach out and get some help. Any hospital will help you to quit drinking. Get to a safe place... get over the hump, just for a few days.

    [42:20] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? After delivering a baby, all she wanted to do was get home and have a drink.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? When a colleague told her that her eyes were yellow.
    3. What's your plan moving forward?

      Continue to stay in the middle of the herd. Continue to work with the sponsor, and keep going.

    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery?

      Her community in recovery.

    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? "If your ass falls off, pick it up and come to a meeting."
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? If you're thinking about it, just go for it. If it's not for you, you'll know.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... A worker at the grocery store mistakes your alcohol purchase as being for a large group of people.

    Resources:

    Recovery: Freedom from Our Addictions by Russell Brand

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down; we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 154: Can Pills Help Control Our Drinking? Jan 29, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Stephen, with 12 days since his last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    "Does anybody have experience with naltrexone, Antabuse (disulfiram), or Campral (acamprosate)?" These drugs are designed to help people deal with the physical side effects of quitting alcohol. While readily available, most 12 step programs will not mention quit aids such as these. In the Radio Lab episode "The Fix", they mention that a very small percentage of people in the early stages of drinking ever qualify for receiving drugs to help them quit. Many people will seek out an easy way to quit, and though these drugs may seem attractive, the only way to successfully move forward is by putting in the work. Disulfiram - more commonly known as Antabuse, is intended to create negative side effects to break the positive association with drinking. It will not help with the physical cravings of quitting. The United States National Institutes of Health says "...it is unlikely that disulfiram will have any real effect on the drinking pattern of the chronic alcoholic." Naltrexone – blocks brain opioid receptors. Probably the most popular. It alters the brain's neurochemistry to make alcohol less rewarding. The alcohol molecule is similar to an opioid molecule and is received similarly in the brain. Naltrexone blocks the high one gets from drinking. Acamprosate - more commonly known as Campral, is newer than the other drugs in the US. The complete workings of this drugs are currently unknown, but it appears to disrupt the activity of the gaba and glutamate neurotransmitter systems in the brain, essentially quickening the pace at which a brain affected by alcohol returns to normalcy. Are these drugs a cure for alcoholism? The common experience is no. These pills only address the physical component of the disease, leaving the emotional and spiritual causes unchecked. Some key points from "The Fix" episode by Radio Lab: 1 – Billy's Story – The drugs did what they were supposed to do, in that they helped him get his drinking under control, but they did not cure the underlying causes for his alcoholism. 2 – The separation between the addiction community and the medical community started in the 30s during the tuberculosis epidemic, eventually leading to the medical community relying on medicine and the recovery community relying on a higher power. 3 – According to Anna Rose-Childress, people prone to addiction are the fittest of the fit, evolutionary speaking. They are rewarded from their environment in more subtle ways, which seems to backfire in today's modern environment.

    SHOW NOTES

    [13:33] Paul Introduces Stephen. How long have you been sober? Who are you? What do you do for fun?

    Over 12 days. From Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. 29yo. Works as a graphic and web designer. Recent graduate of Nutritional Medicine. Engaged to be married. Love fitness and reading self-help books.

    [15:00] When did you realize that you weren't drinking normally?

    Realized he couldn't just have a quiet night. One drink lead to many, which lead to a three day bender, which lead to difficulty stopping drinking.

    [16:00] How did your drinking progress?

    Tried staying drunk to avoid hangovers.

    [18:00] Did you experience a kind of rock bottom?

    Not a rock bottom, but a realization that he had no self control as long as there was alcohol in his system.

    [18:55] Did you put any rules in place to moderate your drinking?

    Tried general strategies. Only drinking at night, etc. They went out the window quite often. Tried using Antabuse but couldn't afford it.

    [20:19] What was it like using Antabuse?

    Was moderate successful. Quit for 3 months. Doesn't cure the holistic problem.

    [22:50] Are you still using medication to help you stay sober?

    No. Not working for him in the long run.

    [25:00] How did you pick your sobriety date? What strategies are you using?

    Figured it was a good year to step it up. Trying to keep busy. Noticed that I have an addictive personality. Figured I'd meditate more and focus on my career.

    [28:11] What have you lost to alcohol?

    Lost a lot of friends. Made poor choices while drinking. Lost a previous romantic relationship. Lead to positive outcomes.

    [30:20] What advice would you give to your younger self in regards to drinking?

    "You don't need to go out and hit up the nightclubs to have fun." I used to drink and play video games. The association is still strong and tough to break.

    [31:45] Have you tried AA?

    He considered it. This year he may try it out to experience the community.

    [34:20] Do you experience cravings? If so, what do you when they arise?

    Tried waiting it out. Reaches out to someone at church. Avoids the internal conflict.

    [36:30] Rapid Fire Round

    • What was your worst memory from drinking?

    Out at a pub, decided to go outside and sit on a bench. Woke up in an ambulance. Needed stitches from passing out and hitting his head.

    • Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment?

    Was on a 3 day bender. Went for a drive and because of sleep deprivation was in a car accident.

    • What's your plan moving forward?

    One day at a time. Keep setting positive goals. Stay fit. Looking up.

    • What's your favorite resource in recovery?

    Recovery Elevator is the biggest one. Listen to podcasts, reads books.

    • What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)?

    You're not alone, and you always have a choice.

    • What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking?

    Think of the long term benefits, especially your health.

    • You might be an alcoholic if...

    get up early on a work day and have a double vodka, even before your decide whether or not you're going to work.

    Resources:

    Radiolab – The Fix

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Traker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 153: Do Half Measures Really Avail Us Nothing? Jan 22, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Zoey, with 7 months since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    "Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point. We asked His protection and care with complete abandon."

    This phrase is commonly heard in 12 step meetings. When it comes to recovery, a half-hearted attempt could have disasterous results. Recovery can be confusing. Half measures might yield mediocre results in other areas of life, but due to the nature of the beast, unfortunatly the truth is that alcoholism can not be defeated while alchol is still being consumed, and thus requires one to quit drinking completely in order to successfully move forward without alcohol.

    While this is true in the long run, most of us use half measures at the beginning to try and control our drinking. This is normal and, though half measures in regard to quitting drinking leads to relapse, it may also lead one to the conclusion that they have to quit completely. Sometimes the wrong train will take you to the right destination.

    SHOW NOTES

    [9:15] Paul Introduces Zoey. How long have you been sober? Who are you? What do you do for fun?

    Over 7 months sober. June 1, 2017 sobriety date. Married. Louisville, KY. 23yo. Works at a freight facility. Still learning what she likes to do for fun. Has 2 dogs. Likes music, reading, cooking.

    [9:40] What spurred you into sobriety?

    Had a car accident while under the influence that she didn't remember.

    [12:00] Did you ever put any rules in place to try and control your drinking?

    Yes. Switching types of drinks. Switched from beer to liquor to lower the quantity of drinks she consumed thinking she wouldn't be viewed as an alcoholic. She would also force herself to run a mile for each drink she consumed.

    [13:25] Before your accident, were there signs that you were drinking too much?

    Many. Husband was afraid to be around her while she drank. Also, she would jokingly mention that she was an alcholic in conversation, surprising herself.

    [14:45] Was this your first attempt to quit drinking after the accident?

    Yes. She had a meltdown and wound up in a psychiatric hospital, was diagnosed and medicated. She tried to stop because of her medication, but she couldn't last more than 5 days. She also lied to doctors about her drinking.

    [17:45] What's it like getting sober at your young age?

    Different than others. To her, age didn't matter. She believes she has hurt enough people and has felt enough pain for anyone at any age. Her friends still drink so she had to remove herself from her social connections.

    [19:55] How did you determine which friendships to keep and which to end?

    She looked at the things they did together, whether or not there was any real connection beyond alcohol. It wasn't difficult because the stakes were high. If she couldn't get sober, her life wouldn't move forward in a healthy way.

    [22:28] How did you get sober? Did you go to a clinic?

    Both inpatient and outpatient. On her 1st day of sobriety, she checked into a detox program for 6 days. After, she attented a 5 week intensive outpatient program. This was during the first month or so of sobriety.

    [23:45] What is outpatient treatment like?

    Very beneficial. She says she wasn't an easy patient. The program involved a lot of conversation and teaching, helping the patient decide what is best for the patient.

    [24:37] What is your point of view on the disease concept?

    She finds it helpful to know that she have a disease that can be treated. It is the answer she has been searching for. Not all decisions about health come from a doctor, one can decide for oneself. Also she isn't alone.

    [26:30] What does your recovery portfolio look like now? A day in the life.

    Coffee in the morning, then playing with dogs, followed by prayers and meditations. Meditation helps a lot. AA meetings at least every other night. Reach out to support group when she needs help, which is often.

    [27:35] How is it important to stay connected?

    Incredibly important. There is also pain in sobriety, but more support from a community. Sobriety is only the beginning. Someone can give advice while dealing with problems.

    [28:45] How did you deal with your grandmother's passing while sober?

    It was difficult. She noticed she was more present with family. She reminded herself that relapse wasn't an option. She didn't want to disappoint her family. "I've got to stay sober so I can handle this and be there for the people that need me." The stakes were high, as she was feeling suicidal. Meetings helped. Reading helped.

    [31:50] How have your coping skills improved over the past months?

    I no longer jump to conclusions, then run to alcohol. I take a moment to think about and assess each situation when it arises.

    [33:15] Have you experienced cravings in your sobriety? If yes, what do you do when they come?

    I haven't really had physical cravings. Mental? Yes. She is using the tools that she has been given to stay sober. The challenge for her is mental.

    [34:30] Rapid Fire Round

    • What was your worst memory from drinking?

    One night became suicidal. Chased husband around with a knife.

    • Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment?

    When husband said he was afraid to be around me while I was drinking.

    • What's your plan moving forward?

    Continue doing what works. Stay in touch with other people and myself. Don't give in and hit the F-it button.

    • What's your favorite resource in recovery?

    The Big Book from AA.

    • What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)?

    Whenever times get hard, you can either a) hit the F-it button, b) fight what you're going through head on.

    • What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking?

    Go with your gut. If you think it's time to quit it is. "You can put your shovel down whenever you want. You don't have to keep digging your hole deeper."

    • You might be an alcoholic if...

    you have a very hard time choosing between a happy and sober life or a painfully alcoholic death.

    Resources:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 152: Asking For Help With Alcohol: Made a Decision to Turn Our Will and Lives Over Jan 15, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Jenna, with over 3 years since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Paul summarizes Step 3 from the "Big Book" of Alcoholics Anonymous.

    "Made a decision to turn our will and our lives

    over to the care of God as we understood Him."

    Step three in a nutshell means we are asking for help. A God of our understanding can be anything. We must be convinced that a life run on self will can hardly be a success.

    SHOW NOTES

    [8:39] Paul Introduces Jenna. I live in Colorado, I work in IT, and I'm 38 and have a 10-year-old daughter. I love hiking, running, and skiing. I love to cook.

    [12:38] Paul- When did you start drinking?

    Jenna- I actually didn't start drinking until I was in college. I didn't drink in High School. The first time I drank I was 12. I discovered a bottle of alcohol, and poured it into a coke.

    [21:25] Paul- What was it that led you to quit drinking?

    Jenna- I had several bottoms before September of 2014. I knew alcohol wasn't working for me, but no one knew that alcohol was the cause of my anxiety and depressing and feeling horrible.

    [28:42] Paul- How liberating was it to be in that environment where your mom with nothing to hide?

    Jenna- She cooked me lots of healthy food. It took me days to be able to eat. That love and being cared for was huge. She was there for me for whatever I needed.

    [34:15] Paul- Talk to me about the timeline, and the patience. What do you have to say on that? It does keep getting better.

    Jenna- That first year was amazing and hard at the same time. I had to learn how to do everything without alcohol in a culture where everything revolves around alcohol. Having accountability with my sponsor and my husband was huge in all of those times.

    [43:21] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? That would be when we were in Vegas for my Grandma's 90th birthday party, and I took my daughter to the bathroom, and I got lost. I didn't know how to get back to the restaurant and I was drunk.
    1. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? Labor Day weekend of 2014. We were going camping. It was always my job to pack up the camper. I decided to drink before doing that, by the time we got out to the campsite 90% of what we needed was not in the camper.
    2. What's your plan moving forward? I plan to keep growing personally and learning.
    3. What's your favorite resource in recovery? What works for me is going to meetings, and connecting with other people.
    4. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? Surrender, and ask my higher power for help.
    5. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? You can find your bottom at any time, just put down the shovel and quit digging (drinking).
    6. You might be an alcoholic if... when you are going through airport security your Ziploc bags of liquid shampoo bottles are filled with vodka.

    Resources:

    Alcoholics Anonymous "Big Book" PDF

    Step 3 Pages 34-41

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 151: This Recovery Program Claims an 80% Success Rate Jan 08, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Kim, with 3 days since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    The American Medical Association recognized alcohol dependence as a disease over 55 years ago. Alcohol dependence fits the disease model because it is a dysfunctional state with characteristic form.

    Use of some drugs, including alcohol, may cause dependency. The medical term for this dependency, or addiction, is Chemical Dependency. In order for a chemical to be addictive it must possess three properties. It must be: 1) mind altering or mood changing, 2) euphorigenic, and 3) reinforcing, that is taking the chemical stimulates taking more of the chemical.

    SHOW NOTES

    [14:29] Paul Introduces Kim. I am 43 years old, I have 2 kids, I am from Atlanta, I am a self-employed attorney. I like to walk my dog, be out in nature, and exercise. I come from a family of alcoholics.

    [19:34] Paul- Did you ever put any rules into place? Like not drinking before 5:00? Tell us more about that.

    Kim- I did actually. I switched to wine, I don't know if that counts as moderating. I did cut back on the heavy stuff. I tried not drinking when I noticed the emotions were flooding. For me it's been the amount I have been drinking when I did drink.

    [32:18] Paul- We are both one of the "lucky ones" How do you feel about that?

    Kim- The one thing I have that my family members don't have is self-awareness. They are in denial. I feel very very lucky that I have been able to recognize what I am doing, and that it is a problem. At the same time it is everywhere. I see it everywhere.

    [43:08] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What was your worst memory from drinking? Without a doubt it was that night. It was the lowest I felt in my life. I never want to be there again.
    2. Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? It was 3 days ago. We were having fun, watching football. The next thing I knew I had a beer in my hand.
    3. What's your plan moving forward? Accountability is big. Actually calling somebody, I can see where reaching out can help break the cycle.
    4. What's your favorite resource in recovery? Without a doubt it is the Café RE recovery group.
    5. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? When you are going through hell, don't stop.
    6. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? Don't beat yourself up. It perpetuates in a negative way.
    7. You might be an alcoholic if... you actually enjoy being sick with a cold or the flu because it actually suppresses your desire to get a drink for a while.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    HIMS Website- Human Intervention Motivation Study

    CBS News- Rehab that Puts Alcoholic Pilots Back in the Cockpit

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


    RE 150: We Can Do This Jan 01, 2018
    Show notes

    Today we have Tricia, with 1 year since her last drink.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    It is January 1st, 2018. Today represents the start of a new year. The fact that you are listening to a podcast that is all about bettering your life sets you apart from all the rest. Addicts and alcoholics need altruistic relationships in our lives with others who do not drink.

    SHOW NOTES

    [8:38] Paul Introduces Tricia. I live in Dallas Texas, I'm 36 years old, I am a Chef by trade. I like to do crafty stuff, and I like to go running.

    [15:03] Paul- What was it like hitting that 1-year milestone? What was that feeling?

    Tricia- 1-year felt better than my birthday. My soberversary felt so much more important than any birthday I had ever had. Having one year was 10 times that feeling of excitement and accomplishment.

    [26:43] Paul- Tell us more about that.

    Tricia- I can quickly compare getting sober to starting an exercise routine. Everyone wants a quick fix. That never works. There is no quick fix. You have to do the things that make you uncomfortable and are hard. You have to learn to have discipline. AA is attraction, not promotion. I can take what I want, and leave the rest.

    [32:32] Paul- The majority of listeners have yet to step foot into an AA meeting. What are your thoughts on AA? What light can you shed upon the 12-step process?

    Tricia- I have a lot of opinions on AA. It's a place where you can meet people in real life. We all have the same disease. It is neat to meet people who get you. I love that part about AA. There are 2 parts to AA: Going to meetings, and working the 12 steps. If you just go to meetings and you don't do the steps you are missing out.

    [36:42] Paul- Tell us a little about the retreat and what you learned from it.

    Tricia- I signed up early for the retreat as an incentive to stay sober. The retreat in Montana was an adult experience kind of like camp. Creating relationships with people who are just like you. Everyone was so vulnerable right away. It was magical. You had to be there to know.

    Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? Start right now. There is no right time, do it now. It just gets harder the longer you wait. You can't do this alone, if you could, you would have done it by now.
    1. You might be an alcoholic if...you are always scheduling your day around your drinking. Everything has a hard stop at 4:00 or 5:00 so you gotta start drinking. You know exactly how many ice cubes are in everyone's glasses because you watched Mad Men drunk.
    2. What's on your bucket list? I am going to be a speaker at the Dallas Meet-up. I really would like to do more speaking engagements. I am looking forward to the Peru trip.

    Resources:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Traker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"


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