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Episode 398: How Breakthrough Discoveries in MS Research Will Impact MS Care with Dr. Amit Bar-Or Apr 14, 2025

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Last week, at the American Academy of Neurology annual meeting, Dr. Amit Bar-Or received the John Dystel Prize for Multiple Sclerosis Research for his multiple achievements that have advanced our knowledge of neuroimmunology, precision medicine, and biomarkers in MS. We talked with Dr. Bar-Or about how some of the latest discoveries in MS research would impact patient care.

Tolebrutinib, an investigational disease-modifying therapy, is currently making its way through the FDA's regulatory process. Last week, the results of the Phase 3 clinical trials for Tolebrutinib were published, and we're sharing the details.

We'll also tell you about MindGlide, an AI-powered tool for analyzing MRI scans that will significantly reduce MRI exam times.

We're talking about the results of the Phase 3 clinical trial for high-dose Ocrevus.

And we'll tell you about a cell therapy that doesn't use stem cells that successfully repaired myelin in the mouse model of MS -- twice!

We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!

Congratulations to Dr. Stephen Hauser and Dr. Alberto Ascherio :22

This Week: The impact of breakthrough MS research on MS care 2:17

Results of the phase 3 clinical trials for Tolebrutinib have been published 3:07

An AI-powered tool for analyzing MRI scans will significantly reduce MRI exam times for patients 4:21

Results of the phase 3 clinical trial for high-dose Ocrevus 8:13

A cell therapy that doesn't use stem cells has successfully repaired myelin in the mouse model of MS -- twice! 10:14

Dystel Prize winner Dr. Amit Bar-Or discusses how some of the latest discoveries in MS research will impact MS care 12:39

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RealTalk MS Episode 310: The Face Laughs While The Brain Cries: The Education of a Doctor with Dr. Stephen Hauser https://realtalkms.com/310

RealTalk MS ECTRIMS Extra: Results from the Phase 3 Clinical Trial for Tolebrutinib and Relapsing-Remitting MS with Dr. Jiwon Oh https://realtalkms.com/ectrims244

VIDEO: RealTalk MS ECTRIMS Extra: Results from the Phase 3 Clinical Trial for Tolebrutinib and Relapsing-Remitting MS with Dr. Jiwon Oh https://youtu.be/zcBmAHRTotA

VIDEO: RealTalk MS ECTRIMS Extra: Results from the Phase 3 Clinical Trial for Tolebrutinib and Nonrelapsing Secondary Progressive MS with Dr. Robert Fox https://youtu.be/tJQ93qdlXrU

STUDY: Tolebrutinib Versus Teriflunomide in Relapsing Multiple Sclerosis https://nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2415985

STUDY: Tolebrutinib in Nonrelapsing Secondary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis https://nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2415988

Enabling New Insights from Old Scans By Repurposing Clinical MRI Archives for Multiple Sclerosis Research https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-58274-8

Fibroblast Technology https://fibrobiologics.com/technology/#cnsms

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RealTalk MS Episode 398 Guests: Dr. Amit Bar-Or

Episode 397: Managing Grief and MS with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor Apr 07, 2025

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For many people, it can be difficult to talk about the feelings of loss that can accompany MS. For some, it's the loss of the way they imagined their life would turn out. For others, it's the more specific loss of function. Perhaps the loss of their mobility. Or a decline in their cognitive skills. It's painful to imagine any of these scenarios, let alone experience them in real life.

The human response to loss is grief. And grieving itself can affect your physical, emotional, and cognitive health. Joining me today to discuss how grieving can affect you, along with ways to best manage grief, is Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor.

Dr. O'Connor is a professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss, and Social Stress Lab, investigating the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Dr. O'Connor also lives with MS, and the title of her new book is The Grieving Body: How the Stress of Loss Can Be an Opportunity for Healing.

We'll also share the results of a study on MS fatigue in Finland.

We'll tell you about a study that focused on sexual dysfunction among women living with MS in Iran.

You'll learn what a research team discovered when they connected sick days from work with the prodromal phase of MS.

And we're sharing a new resource from the MS International Federation that will help you assess which wellness practices and complementary therapies may be beneficial for you.

We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!

This Week: Managing the grief that comes from living with MS :22

Results from a Finnish study adds further evidence to what we know about MS fatigue 1:36

Results of a study that focused on sexual dysfunction among women living with MS in Iran 3:13

Can job-related sick days help researchers better understand the prodromal phase of MS? 5:48

The MS International Federation has produced a very worthwhile guide to wellness practices and complementary therapies for people with MS 10:49

Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor discusses managing the grief that accompanies being diagnosed with MS 12:42

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STUDY: Evaluation of Patient-Perceived Fatigue in Multiple Sclerosis Using the Finnish MS Registry https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20552173251325098

STUDY: The Prevalence of Sexual Dysfunction and Its Contributors Among the Women with Multiple Sclerosis https://bmcwomenshealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12905-025-03653-y

STUDY: The Prodromal Phase of Multiple Sclerosis: Evidence from Sickness Absence Patterns Before Disease Onset -- A Matched Cohort Study https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/early/2025/03/25/jnnp-2024-335279.full

STUDY (PLAIN ENGLISH VERSION): The Prodromal Phase of Multiple Sclerosis: Evidence from Sickness Absence Patterns Before Disease Onset -- A Matched Cohort Study https://tremlettsmsresearchexplained.wordpress.com/2025/03/26/the-prodromal-phase-of-multiple-sclerosis-evidence-from-sickness-absence-patterns-before-disease-onset-a-matched-cohort-study-explained

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RealTalk MS Episode 397 Guests: Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor

Episode 396: The Importance of Cancer Screenings for People Living with MS With Dr. Ruth Ann Marrie Mar 31, 2025

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Managing MS means staying focused not only on your MS but also on your overall health. That includes getting routine health screenings to stay ahead of potential complications. Recent research has shown that, compared to healthy people, people with MS are more likely to develop some cancers.

Clinician-scientist Dr. Ruth Ann Marrie joins me to discuss which cancers pose a greater risk to someone with MS, why you need to make those appointments for cancer screenings, where you can find low-cost or no-cost cancer screenings, and things you can do to further minimize your risk of developing cancer.

Dr. Marrie is a professor of medicine and the Multiple Sclerosis Clinical Research Chair at Dalhousie University in Canada. She's a past recipient of the Barancik Prize for Innovation in MS Research and is recognized as one of the world's leading MS experts.

We'll also explain how and why we're going to be discussing the impact of those devastating federal budget cuts and mass layoffs in the federal agencies responsible for healthcare and MS research on this podcast.

We'll tell you about the FDA's decision to grant priority review to Tolebrutinib. (We'll also explain why Tolebrutinib isn't just another DMT. We're even sharing the projected date when the FDA will make its approval decision!)

And you'll learn what happened when a research team set out to identify the diversity-related characteristics of the MS population in Canada.

We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!

How we'll be talking about the impact of public policy on people affected by MS (and why we must) :22

Hear what's on the minds of some of the attendees at last week's National MS Society Public Policy Conference 3:55

This Week: The importance of cancer screenings for people with MS 12:52

Tolebrutinib, an investigative DMT from Sanofi, is granted priority review by the FDA 13:44

What happened when researchers set out to identify the diversity-related characteristics of the MS population in Canada 17:56

Dr. Ruth Ann Marrie discusses the importance of cancer screenings for people living with MS 20:02

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VIDEO: Tolebrutinib and Non-Relapsing Secondary Progressive MS with Dr. Robert Fox https://realtalkms.com/tolebrutinib1

VIDEO: Tolebrutinib and Relapsing-Remitting MS with Dr. Jiwon Oh https://realtalkms.com/tolebrutinib2

VIDEO: RealTalk MS 2025 ACTRIMS Forum YouTube Playlist https://realtalkms.com/actrims

STUDY: Characterizing the Diversity of the Multiple Sclerosis Population in Canada: A Scoping Review https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20552173251321814

STUDY (PLAIN ENGLISH VERSION): Characterizing the Diversity of the Multiple Sclerosis Population in Canada: A Scoping Review https://tremlettsmsresearchexplained.wordpress.com/2025/03/20/characterizing-the-diversity-of-the-multiple-sclerosis-population-in-canada-a-scoping-review-explained

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RealTalk MS Episode 396 Guests: Dr. Ruth Ann Marrie

Episode 395: Things You Need to Know When You're Managing MS While You're Managing Menopause with Dr. Riley Bove Mar 24, 2025

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When you look at a list of the typical symptoms associated with perimenopause, you'd think you were looking at a list of MS symptoms. And, for women living with MS, that's where the confusion begins. With an estimated 30% of the current MS population now in peri- or post-menopause, researchers are beginning to focus on how menopause and MS interact and the best ways to treat symptoms.

Dr. Riley Bove, a neurologist and founding director of the Sex and Gender-Enriched (SAGE) Neurology Program at the University of California San Francisco, joins me to talk about the things you need to know when you're managing MS while you're managing menopause.

We'll also tell you about this year's winner of the John Dystel Prize for Multiple Sclerosis Research.

We'll share a deeply personal poem written by a friend who's been living with MS since 1988.

And we'll tell you about the results of a study that should be a reminder of the importance of starting disease-modifying therapy and the value of early intervention.

We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!

This Week: We're in Washington, D.C., at the National MS Society's Public Policy Conference :22

Dr. Amit-Bar-Or is the winner of the 2025 John Dystel Prize for Multiple Sclerosis Research 2:26

Magician Wayne Dobson's poem 7:07

STUDY: Cognitive impairment is prevalent among people living with untreated MS 10:23

Dr. Riley Bove talks about the things you need to know when you're managing MS while you're managing perimenopause and menopause 14:18

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RealTalk MS Episode 395 Guests: Dr. Riley Bove

Episode 394: Probably The Most Important Conversation About MS Advocacy That We Will Ever Have with Steffany Stern Mar 17, 2025

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Next week, a couple of hundred MS activists will gather in Washington, D.C. for the National MS Society's Public Policy Conference. As we're seeing devastating cuts in funding for MS research, layoffs in every major governmental agency that impacts our healthcare, including the National Institutes of Health, the FDA, CDC, Health and Human Services, and the Department of Veterans Affairs, and even Medicaid funding is at serious risk, advocacy has never been more important than it is right now.

I'm devoting this entire episode to a conversation with Steffany Stern, the National MS Society's Vice President for Advocacy, who joins me to assess the current legislative climate in Washington, D.C., and give us a preview of the issues that will take center stage at this year's Public Policy Conference.

We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!

This Week: Is there anything more urgent and important to discuss than advocacy? :22

Steffany Stern discusses the current legislative climate in our nation's capitol, and gives us a sneak peek at next week's National MS Society Public Policy Conference 2:16

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RealTalk MS Episode 394 Guests: Steffany Stern

Bonus: An ACTRIMS Forum Conversation with Kristine Werner Ozug Mar 14, 2025

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Just a couple of weeks ago, 1,800 scientists, clinicians, postdoctoral fellows, and medical residents gathered in West Palm Beach, Florida, for the Americas Committee for Treatment and Research in Multiple Sclerosis annual meeting, better known as the ACTRIMS Forum.

Kristine Werner Ozug lives with MS and, full disclosure, she's a member of the RealTalk MS team. After the ACTRIMS Forum, Kristine shared her impressions of the conference.

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RealTalk MS Bonus Episode Guest: Kristine Werner Ozug

Bonus: An ACTRIMS Forum Conversation with Dr. Emanuelle Waubant Mar 14, 2025

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Dr. Emanuelle Waubant is a neurologist who specializes in treating patients with MS, and she is the Director of the UCSF Regional Pediatric Multiple Sclerosis Center.

At the ACTRIMS Forum, we talked with Dr. Waubant about advances in pediatric MS treatment and care, and the importance of the International Women in Multiple Sclerosis organization.

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RealTalk MS Bonus Episode Guest: Dr. Emanuelle Waubant

Bonus: An ACTRIMS Forum Conversation with Dr. Mikael Simons Mar 13, 2025

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Dr. Mikael Simons is a neurologist and researcher at Technical University Munich and the Centre for Neurodegenerative Diseases in Munich, Germany, and he's this year's recipient of the Barancik Prize for Innovation in MS Research.

At the ACTRIMS Forum, we talked with Dr. Simons about his research in myelin repair.

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RealTalk MS Bonus Episode Guest: Dr. Mikael Simons

Bonus: An ACTRIMS Conversation with Dr. Daniel Reich Mar 13, 2025

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Dr. Daniel Reich is a neurologist and neuroradiologist. He is the Director of the Translational Neuroradiology Section at the NIH National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke. In his clinical practice, Dr. Reich cares for people living with MS and other neurological diseases, and he leads several clinical trials focused on multiple sclerosis.

At the ACTRIMS Forum, we talked with Dr. Reich about myelin repair, how improvements in imaging have impacted diagnosing and treating MS, and what he sees in MS research today that has him excited.

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RealTalk MS Bonus Episode Guest: Dr. Daniel Reich

Bonus: An ACTRIMS Forum Conversation with Dr. Christina Azevedo Mar 12, 2025

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Dr. Christina Azevedo is an Associate Professor of Neurology at the University of Southern California.

At the ACTRIMS Forum, we talked with Dr. Azevedo about updates to the McDonald criteria, which are the criteria used to diagnose MS, and the benefits of getting an early MS diagnosis.

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