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    Public Defenseless – Hunter Parnell

    Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.

    Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.

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    382 | What Stopped North Dakota Public Defenders from Refusing New Cases? w/Travis Fink Aug 07, 2025
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    Today, Hunter was joined once again by the Executive Director of North Dakota's Commission of Legal Counsel for the Indigent, Travis Fink. Last time, Travis joined the show to detail a bleak outlook for public defense in the state. Not enough attorneys in both the contract and full-time systems, inadequate pay, and crushing workloads left Travis with little choice. He drafted up a letter preparing to tell the courts the public defender would be taking no new cases, but before he could send it out, the legislature threw the system a lifeline.

    Guest:

    Travis Fink, Executive Director, North Dakota Commission of Legal Counsel for the Indigent

    Resources:

    Travis Testimony at the Legislature

    https://video.ndlegis.gov/en/PowerBrowser/PowerBrowserV2/20250130/-1/32604

    Contact the North Dakota Public Defender

    https://www.indigents.nd.gov/

    North Dakota Public Defender News

    https://northdakotamonitor.com/2025/07/07/north-dakota-public-defenders-see-budget-increase-with-new-biennium/

    https://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-regional/crime-courts/public-defenders-underpaid-overworked-north-dakota-report-says/article_76910028-f819-11ee-a575-8f6da532994a.html

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    381 | With a Shortage of Lawyers and Too Many Cases, Will New Mexico Public Defenders Need to Stop Taking New Cases? w/Ben Baur Aug 05, 2025
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    Today, Hunter was joined once again by New Mexico's Chief Public Defender, Ben Baur. A few years back, a workload study estimated that New Mexico had 1/3 of the public defenders it needed to meet its workload demands. At that time, the state set out on a five-year plan to address the staffing shortage. Unfortunately, the state has not stuck to the five-year plan. Now, with a shortage of attorneys in rural parts of the state, low pay for contract attorneys, and still too many cases, will the New Mexico public defenders have to stop taking new cases?

    Guest:

    Ben Baur, Chief Public Defender, New Mexico Law Offices of the Public Defender

    Resources:

    Contact the New Mexico Public Defender

    https://www.lopdnm.us/offices/

    New Mexico Resources

    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nAHtHZaAmu6My2tL04Dn_HlLhy-HARuP?usp=sharing

    New Mexico Workload Study

    https://www.lopdnm.us/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/LOPD-Attorney-Workload-Study2.pdf

    New Mexico Five Year Plan

    https://www.lopdnm.us/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Final-Draft-LOPD-5-Year-Plan.pdf

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    380 | How Washington is Helping People Who Have been Found Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity w/Tim Ray Johnson, Dennis Calhoun, and Amanda Ulrich Jul 31, 2025
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    Today, Hunter was joined by Dennis Calhoun, Tim Ray Johnson, and Amanda Ulrich to discuss how Washington is helping people who were found not guilty by reason of insanity.

    Guest:

    Tim Ray Johnson, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Washington

    Dennis Calhoun, Student, Washington

    Amanda Ulrich, Public Defender Washington

    Resources:

    WA PD

    https://opd.wa.gov/

    NGRI

    https://opd.wa.gov/forensic-civil-commitment

    Email Amdanda and Tim

    amanda@stebbinsullrich.com

    trj@trjdefense.com

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    379 | How Washington is Trying to Recruit and Keep Lawyers in Rural Parts of the State w/ Nat Jacob, Elizabeth Mustin, Rachel Cortez Jul 29, 2025
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    Today, Hunter was joined by Nat Jacob, Elizabeth Mustin, and Rachel Cortez to discuss new efforts by the Washington to recruit and retain Public Defenders.

    Guest

    Nat Jacob, Recruitment and Retention Managing Attorney Western Washington, Washington Office of Public Defense

    Rachel Cortez, Recruitment and Retention Managing Attorney Eastern Washington, Washington Office of Public Defense

    Elizabeth Mustin, Supervising Attorney, Youth Criminal Defense Project, Washington Office of Public Defense

    Resources:

    WA PD

    https://opd.wa.gov/

    Fellowship

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&feature=shared&v=g5QiPP3PEfo

    https://opd.wa.gov/recruitment-and-retention

    https://opd.wa.gov/recruitment-and-retention/rural-public-defense-fellowship

    Emails

    Nat.jacob@opd.wa.gov

    Rachel.cortez@opd.wa.gov

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    378 | Why is Oklahoma Going to Execute a Man who Didn't Kill Anyone? w/Amanda Bass Castro Alves Jul 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by federal public defender Amanda Bass Castro Alves to discuss the wrongful conviction of Tremane Wood. In 2004, Tremane was convicted of felony murder and sentenced to death in the State of Oklahoma. Just after that, his brother, who admitted to pulling the trigger and who stated Tremane was not responsible for the death, was given a life sentence just after Tremane's trial. So how is it that a person who did not kill anyone ended up on death row? All that and more on today's episode.

    Guest

    Amanda Bass Castro Alves, Assistant Federal Public Defender, District of Arizona

    Resources:

    More About Tremane's Case

    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/stories/deeply-rooted-oklahoma-case-spotlight-tremane-wood

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/death-row-felony-murder-oklahoma_n_67094c44e4b0f3da6456d60c

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oklahoma-sets-execution-tremane-wood_n_684afd19e4b0d6fb6cd8eabe

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    377 | How Was a Man Convicted of Murder When He Wasn't in the State When the Crime Occurred? w/Erica Nichols Cook Jul 22, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Erica Nichols Cook, the head of the Iowa State Public Defender Wrongful Conviction Unit. On today's episode, Erica walks us through the case of Jerry Mark. In 1976, he was convicted of the murder of his brother, sister-in-law and their two children, but as you will hear, all the evidence points to the fact that Jerry Mark wasn't even in the state when the murder happened.

    Guest

    Erica Nichols Cook, Director, Wrongful Convictions Unit, Iowa State Public Defender

    Resources:

    More About Jerry's Case

    https://www.iowapublicradio.org/ipr-news/2024-11-19/jerry-mark-seeks-exoneration-for-murders-halloween-1975-cedar-falls

    Contact Erica

    https://www.drake.edu/law/clinics-centers/clinic/wrongfulconvictionsclinic/

    https://www.facebook.com/enicholscook/

    Send Jerry a Letter

    Non legal mail has to go through the mail processing facility: Jerry Mark, #0103896 Anamosa State Penitentiary (ASP) - 1106 PO Box 96777 Las Vegas, NV 89193

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    www.publicdefenseless.com

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    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    376 | How a Law School Clinic is Trying to Prevent Gun Violence Through Litigation w/Megan Walsh and Anthony Benz Jul 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Megan Walsh and Anthony Benz from the University of Minnesota. As we did on Tuesday, Hunter sat down with these two to highlight the work of a law school clinic. This clinic focuses on combating gun violence through both offensive and defensive litigation.

    Guest

    Megan Walsh, Director, Gun Violence Prevention Clinic, University of Minnesota

    Anthon Benz, Student Attorney, University of Minnesota

    Resources:

    Contact Megan

    https://law.umn.edu/course/7408/spring-2023/gun-violence-prevention-clinic/walsh-megan

    https://bsky.app/profile/meganwalshgvp.bsky.social

    Jacob Charles Article

    https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/assets/the-dead-hand-of-a-silent-past_-bruen-gun-rights-and-the-shackl.pdf

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ

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    375 | The Law Clinic Helping Public Defenders Fight Back Against New Police Technology w/Megan Graham Jul 15, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Megan Graham to discuss how her law an technology clinic is helping Public Defenders deal with technology issues in their client's cases.

    Guest

    Megan Graham, Associate Clinical Professor of Law, Director of Technology Law Clinic, University of Iowa College of Law

    Resources:

    Contact Megan

    https://law.uiowa.edu/people/megan-graham

    https://bsky.app/profile/megankgraham.bsky.social

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ

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    374 | How were Incarcerated People Impacted by the NY Correctional Officers' Illegal Wild Cat Strike? w/Emily Napier Singletary and Derek Singletary Jul 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Co-Founders and Co-Executive Directors of Unchained Emily Napier-Singletary and Derek Singletary. Unchained is a non-profit organization based out of New York that seeks to "empower those currently and formerly incarcerated in the state of New York through policy development, community organizing and advocacy, research, and liberation education." On today's episode, Derek and Emily discuss what happened both inside and outside of New York prisons during the New York Correctional Officer Illegal Wild Cat Strike.

    Guest

    Emily Napier Singletary, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director, Unchained

    Derek Singletary, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director, Unchained

    Resources:

    Unchained's Work

    https://www.weareunchained.org/

    Murder of Robert Brooks

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05/us/robert-brooks-beating-security-guard-plea

    https://cnycentral.com/news/local/this-is-whats-next-after-eight-former-cos-rejects-offers-in-robert-brooks-death-case-oneida-county-court-murder-manslaughter-inmate-marcy-correctional-facility

    https://13wham.com/news/local/former-correction-officers-return-to-court-now-facing-trial-for-inmates-death-robert-brooks-marcy-correctional-prison-new-york-crime-murder-beating-case-national-charges-officers-video-bodycam-attorney-general-governor-

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/murder-charges-announced-death-robert-brooks-man-beaten-new-york-corre-rcna193019

    https://theappeal.org/robert-brooks-murder-new-york-prisons-racism-brutality/

    Illegal Wild Cat Strike

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-fires-2000-prison-guards-refuse-return-work-wildcat-strike-rcna195765

    https://www.wkbw.com/news/i-team/low-staffing-levels-535-new-york-state-corrections-officers-resign-during-after-wildcat-strike

    https://prisonjournalismproject.org/2025/03/10/what-was-the-ny-wildcat-strike-like-for-incarcerated-people/

    HALT Act

    https://www.albanylaw.edu/government-law-center/explaining-the-halt-act

    https://ig.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2024/08/nys-oig-doccs-halt-report-8.5.24.pdf

    https://nysba.org/the-halt-act-and-solitary-confinement-in-new-york-state/?srsltid=AfmBOors7C8DaJYbPV9NWj-2lue3qO4vIgnoW145V5NDdkTAz6_OYCQ1

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    373 | How a Public Defender Investigator Unsolved a Murder w/Anat Rubin Jul 09, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by investigative journalist Anat Rubin to discuss her recent reporting on Public Defender Investigators in California. At times, investigators are the single most important person in a criminal defense case, and yet around the country, nearly all public defenders do not have access to necessary investigative resources. Today, Anat joins the show to discuss how the systemic underfunding of public defense investigators increases the risk of wrongful convictions by highlighting the story of an investigator who unsolved a murder.

    Guest

    Anat Rubin, Investigative Journalist, CalMatters

    Resources:

    Anat's Reporting

    https://calmatters.org/investigation/2025/06/public-defense-investigators-takeaways/

    https://calmatters.org/investigation/2025/06/public-defense-investigators/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ

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