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    Government

    Public Defenseless – Hunter Parnell

    Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.

    Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.

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    402 | Defense Lawyering in the Progressive Prosecution Era w/Jenny Roberts Oct 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Dean Jenny Roberts of Hofstra Law School. On today's episode, Hunter and Dean Roberts discuss a law review article that Dean Roberts published last year about how public defenders can/should respond to the progressive prosecutors.

    Guest:

    Jenny Roberts, Dean, Hofstra Law

    Resources:

    Contact Dean Roberts Here

    https://law.hofstra.edu/jenny-roberts/

    Read the Article Here

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4574381

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    401 | Police Against the Movement: The Sabotage of the Civil Rights Struggle and the Activists Who Fought Back w/Joshua Clark Davis Oct 02, 2025
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    Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Joshua Clark Daivs to discuss his new book, Police Against the Movement. In the book, Professor Davis tells the often forgotten story of how police departments surveilled, infiltrated, and sabotaged civil rights movements that challenged the power of police.

    Guest:

    Joshua Clark Davis, Professor of History, University of Baltimore

    Resources:

    Professor Davis's Website

    https://www.joshuaclarkdavis.com/

    Get a Copy of The Book

    https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691238838/police-against-the-movement?srsltid=AfmBOorTFXbO1NSyZI4MTU28xSTq8YPHteKdKCkwWICdD6Gw1zTjdbvP

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    Blue Sky https://bsky.app/profile/joshuaclarkdavis.bsky.social

    Twitter https://x.com/joshclarkdavis

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    www.publicdefenseless.com

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    400 | Why the Lawyers Handling 80% of Massachusetts's Public Defender Cases Stopped Taking New Cases w/Shira Diner Oct 01, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Shira Diner to discuss the Bar Advocate work stoppage in the state of Massachusetts. Back in May, the Bar Advocates, the private defense lawyers who handle 80% of Massachusetts's public defender workload, stopped taking new cases due to the incredibly low hourly rate they are paid. Since then, thousands of people have been left without representation as the courts have been unable to assign cases to attorneys. Now the question is, where does the state go from here?

    Guest:

    Shira Diner, Professor of Law, Boston University

    Resources:

    News on Bar Advocates Here

    https://www.alaa.org/thealaaorganizer/massachusetts-defense-attorneys-enter-third-month-on-strike

    https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2025/0916/sixth-amendment-us-constitution-massachusetts-bar-strike

    https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/06/27/court-massachusetts-defense-strike-bar

    https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/bar-advocates-attorney-work-stoppage-pay-raise/

    https://www.massbar.org/publications/ejournal/ejournal-article/lawyers-journal-2004-november/keep-it-going-delegates-urge-continued-momentum-on-bar-advocate-pay-issue-

    https://www.masslive.com/opinion/2025/07/bar-advocates-arent-striking-were-standing-for-justice-viewpoint.html

    https://www.wcvb.com/article/bar-advocate-strike-massachusetts-healey/65491317

    Contact Shira

    https://www.bu.edu/law/profile/shira-m-diner/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

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    Subscribe to the Patreon

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    https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home


    399 | Unequal Scales: California's Investment Disparity Between Prosecution and Public Defense w/Caneel Fraser and Tatyana Kaplan Sep 30, 2025
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    Today, Hunter was joined by Caneel Fraser and Tatyana Kaplan of California's Office of the State Public Defender. The three sat down to discuss an OSPD report, Unequal Scales, to explore how and why Public Defender's are so underfunded in comparison to prosecutors.

    Guest:

    Caneel Fraser, Executive Director, Indigent Defense Improvement Division, California Office of the State Public Defender

    Tatyana Kaplan, Data Specialist, Indigent Defense Improvement Division, California Office of the State Public Defender

    Resources:

    OSPD Website

    https://www.ospd.ca.gov/

    Reports

    https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Unequal-Scales_Californias-Investment-Disparity-between-Prosecution-and-Public-Defense.pdf

    https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/2024-IDID-Annual-Report_Final_Accessible.pdf

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

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    https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home


    398 | How Public Defenders can Combat Copaganda w/Alec Karakatsanis Sep 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Alec Karatkatsanis. This time, Alec is here discussing Copaganda, cop fueled propaganda that shapes the way our society understands crime, the criminal legal system, and most importantly, convinces people that the only way to make our communities safer is by increasing our policing. In his new book, Copaganda, Alec explains how this propaganda is created, how it is laundered through ostensibly liberal media sources, and what we can do about it.

    Guest:

    Alec Karatkatsanis, Author and Executive Director, Civil Rights Corps

    Resources:

    Pick up a Copy of the Book

    https://firestorm.coop/products/22254-copaganda.html

    Check out Civil Rights Corps's Work

    https://civilrightscorps.org/

    SF Standard Article

    https://sfstandard.com/2025/09/08/sfpd-flock-alpr-ice-data-sharing/

    Correction. When Hunter spoke about the article, he stated it was 2.1 million illegal searches. It was actually 1.6 million

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    397 | The Tragedy of True Crime: Four Guilty Men and the Stories that Define Them w/John J Lennon Sep 23, 2025
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    Today, Hunter was joined by John J. Lennon to discuss his new book, The Tragedy of True Crime: Four Guilty Men and the Stories that Define Us. John is a currently incarcerated journalist who presents the stories of four men, Michael Shane Hale, Robert Chambers, Milton Jones, and his own, in his book. Each of these men committed murder, but John sets out to tell a more complete picture to try and capture a more comprehensive picture of these men and the system that punishes them.

    Guest:

    John J. Lennon, Incarcerated Journalist and Author

    Resources:

    John's Contacts

    https://johnjlennon.net/

    https://x.com/JohnJLennon1?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    https://www.facebook.com/JohnJLennonJournalist/

    Pick up a Copy of the Book Here

    https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-True-Crime-Guilty-Stories/dp/1250858240

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

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    https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home


    396 | What Will it Take to Revive the Jury? w/Will Snowden Sep 18, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Will Snowden of the Juror Project to discuss how they plan on revitalizing the jury around the country.

    Guest:

    Will Snowden, Director, The Juror Project

    Resources:

    The Juror Project

    https://www.thejurorproject.org/

    https://www.thejurorproject.org/contact

    https://www.instagram.com/jurorproject/?hl=en

    https://www.facebook.com/jurorproject/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

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    https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home


    395 | A New Partners for Justice Toolkit to Help Public Defenders w/Vichal Kumar Sep 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Vichal Kumar of Partners for Justice. This time, Vichal joins the show to discuss a new toolkit that Partners for Justice has put together to give Public Defenders resources to up incorporate collaborative Public Defender practices.

    Guest:

    Vichal Kumar, Managing Director for Capacity Building, Partners for Justice

    Resources:

    Access the Toolkit Here

    https://www.partnersforjustice.org/toolkit

    Partners for Justice

    https://www.partnersforjustice.org/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    394 | What Can Data Tell us About New York's Discovery Reform? w/Michael Rempel and Anna Stenkamp Sep 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Michael Rempel and Anna Stenkamp of the Data Collaborative for Justice. They discuss a recent report authored by DCJ about the impacts, or lack thereof, that came from the changes to New York's discovery laws.

    *** Correction to the show. The Data Collaborative caught an error in the underlying data related to case processing times in NYC. "Due to an error found in the underlying data, the report and analyses have been updated as of September 2025. There was one consequential change that showed case processing times in NYC for indicted felonies had increased from 2019 to 2024."****

    Guest:

    Michael Rempel, Director, Data Collaborative for Justice

    Anna Stenkamp, Senior Research Associate, Data Collaborative for Justice

    Resources:

    Read the Report Here

    https://datacollaborativeforjustice.org/work/case-processing/discovery-reform-in-new-york-what-can-the-data-tell-us/

    Data Collaborative for Justice

    https://x.com/dataforjustice

    https://datacollaborativeforjustice.org/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    393 | Ending Isolation: The Case Against Solitary Confinement w/Christopher Blackwell Sep 11, 2025
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    Today, Hunter was joined by activist, prisoner journalist, and author of Ending Isolation, Christopher Blackwell. On this episode, Chris and Hunter discuss the book, the horrors of solitary confinement, and why the practice needs to end.

    Guest:

    Christopher Blackwell, activist, prisoner journalist, and author of Ending Isolation, and executive director of Look 2 Justice

    Resources:

    Christopher Blackwell's website and Socials

    https://www.christopher-blackwell.com/

    https://x.com/chriswblackwell?lang=en

    Look to Justice

    https://www.look2justice.org/

    https://www.instagram.com/look2justice/?hl=en

    Broken is Beautiful Podcast

    https://www.brokenisbeautifulpod.com/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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