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    PRETEND

    PRETEND is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web.

    Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons

    PRETEND explains how and why deception works without shaming victims, combining ethical journalism with cinematic storytelling.

    Featured in lists of the best podcasts about con artists and scams, PRETEND investigates crimes of persuasion, trust, and betrayal. New episodes drop regularly with stories that reveal how manipulation shapes modern life, both online and off.

    PRETEND is produced by Creative Babble, LLC.

    © 2026 Creative Babble LLC

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    S509: The Santa Claus Man Dec 18, 2019
    Show notes

    A con artist save Christmas

    Brian Earl with the Christmas Past podcast shares a Christmas story you’ve probably never heard before. In the early 1900s, children’s letters to Santa Claus never made it to the North Pole. They landed in the dead letter office and were eventually destroyed.

    But along came John Gluck, a hustler who took these letters to Santa and turned it into an opportunity to get rich and famous.

    It’s the strange and true story of government agents, spies, an art thief, U.S. presidents, and gun-toting boy scouts.

    Check out “My Dear Santa” with Brian Earl from the Christmas Past podcast


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    Credits

    Today’s show was written and edited by Javier Leiva.

    Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.

    Additional music by Podington Bear.


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    Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp

    Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs — as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”

    Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT


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    Story idea?

    If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.


    For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.


    To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate

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    S508: The Prank Call part 4 Dec 04, 2019
    Show notes

    PrankNet is a network of online terrorists who performed crank calls which caused thousands of dollars worth in damages.


    These cruel prank phone calls created anxiety and fear for anyone who picked up the phone. PrankNet victims destroyed hotel rooms, set off fire alarms, and flooded rooms by damaging the sprinkler system.

    In part 3, you heard actual Pranknet prank calls. In part 4, you’ll hear from a former prank caller who says she was one of the architects behind Pranknet’s most despicable hoax. It involved two female KFC employees in Manchester, New Hampshire. The two employees were convinced to strip naked in the freezing cold and urinate on each other.

    Hear how Jeri Batsford says she helped Pranknet orchestrate some of their most twisted pranks.


    Credits

    Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock.

    Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.

    Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.


    Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp

    Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs — as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”

    Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT


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    References

    http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSgG5V-R3U

    https://www.wmur.com/news/18803151/detail.html


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    If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.


    For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.


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    S507: The Prank Call part 3 Nov 20, 2019
    Show notes

    When does a prank call go too far? When it leads to sexual abuse and thousands of dollars worth of destruction.


    PrankNet

    The punks at Pranknet are believed to be responsible for tens of thousands of dollars worth in damages. They often called restaurants making employees set off sprinklers systems and fire alarms. Sometimes they would even call hotel guests directly and convince them to shatter hotel windows.


    An ESPN reporter falls for a Pranknet hoax

    Nobody is safe from PrankNet's mayhem. Even Elizabeth Moreau, an ESPN reporter, was persuaded to swing a toilet seat across her Hilton Garden Inn window in the middle of the night. She thought there was a gas leak in the building. All of these calls were recorded and posted on Youtube. You can hear the desperation in her voice during the call.


    Who is behind PrankNet?

    The mastermind behind PrankNet is allegedly a Canadian man who goes by the name of Dex. Dex, who’s real name is Tariq Malik, is clearly proud of his work. However, when exposed by an internet blog, he vanished without a trace.


    A prank caller confesses

    I wanted to learn more about PrankNet and how they operate. The question is, could I get one of them to talk with me? Fortunately, Jeri Batsford, a former PrankNet member, deflected from the group.

    Listen to part 3 of The Prank Call on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play.


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    Credits

    Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale.

    Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.

    Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.


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    Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp

    Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs -- as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”

    Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT


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    References

    http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSgG5V-R3U

    https://www.wmur.com/news/18803151/detail.html


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    If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.


    For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.


    To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate

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    S506: The Prank Call part 2 Nov 06, 2019
    Show notes

    A prank call leads to a 2-hour strip-search at a fast-food restaurant

    A prank caller posing as a cop calls a manager at a Hardee's Restaurant in Rapid City, South Dakota. He tells the store manager that one of his employees stole money from a customer. Instead of calling the real police, the manager decides to strip search the employee. This prank call went on for more than 2 hours.

    I spoke with the manager of that restaurant to find out why he obeyed the prank caller's every demand.

    Searching for David Stewart—the prank call suspect

    Victor Flaherty is now the Cheif of Police in West Bridgewater police department in Massachusetts at the time in 2004, he was a detective sergeant searching for the notorious fast-food prank caller. Many police stations across the United States tried to locate the perpetrator—and all of them failed. It turns out that tracing the calls back to the source proved to be nearly impossible.

    Listen to the lengthVictor Flaherty went through to find the suspect named David Stewart.

    If you want to start from the beginning, listen to part 1 here.

    Credits

    Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock.

    Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.

    Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.

    References:

    Rapid City Journal

    Courier Journal

    MSNBC


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    For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.


    To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate

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    S505: The Prank Call part 1 Oct 23, 2019
    Show notes

    Disclaimer: We will be talking about sexual abuse and other disturbing topics. Listener discretion is advised.

    Strip-search hoax

    A prank caller pretending to be a police officer instructed fast-food managers to strip-search female employees forcing them to jog naked, do jumping jacks and perform other humiliating acts. He made more than 70 of these calls in the United States over a 12-year period.


    Why do we obey?

    Some of the managers were charged with rape and kidnapping as a result of these pranks. How could they fall for such a prank?

    The truth is, humans are programmed to respect authority. But why do we obey? In this episode, you'll hear real audio from Stanley Milgram's experiments on obedience and authority. The results are shocking.


    Bonus episode

    Donna Summers, the manager from the McDonalds restaurant in Mount Washington, sued McDonald's for failing to warn her about the previous hoaxes. She asked for $50 million. She was awarded $1 million in punitive damages and $100,000 in compensatory damages.

    Listen to my conversation with her attorney Wendy Wagner.

    The Pranks part 1 BONUS (McDonalds Lawsuit)

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/pranks-part-1-30952858


    Links and sources

    https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2005/10/09/a-hoax-most-cruel-caller-coaxed-mcdonalds-managers-/28936597/

    https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/man-on-trial-for-kidnapping-rape/article_faeff508-246c-54db-8a66-15d121c5112d.html

    https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2005/10/09/a-hoax-most-cruel-caller-coaxed-mcdonalds-managers-/28936597/https://web.archive.org/web/20090325234639/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15504125/


    Credits

    Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.

    Support for this episode is brought to you by HempFusion

    Use promo code PRETEND for 20% off of your first order and free shipping at hempfusion.com. Get HempFusion shipped anywhere in the US.


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    If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.


    For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.


    To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate

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    S504: The Cousins part 2 Oct 09, 2019
    Show notes

    The most bizarre cyberstalking story you’ll ever hear

    Susan Fensten is a victim of cyberstalking. Distant family members and ex-cons bombarded her with harassing emails. She felt cornered and there was nothing she could do about it.


    Rapists and Stalkers and cannibals, oh my.

    Two ex-cons convicted of raping a woman were sending her threatening emails. They even invited her to the Fall Slaughter an event hosted by a cannibalistic cult from upstate New York. The plan was to eat her alive.


    It was all a hoax

    None of this was real. All these threatening messages were fake. And worst of all, the people Susan thought she was interacting with weren’t real either. Today’s story focuses on the search for this cyberstalker. Who was targeting Susan? And why did they want her to suffer?


    Subscribe to PRETEND on your favorite podcast app: Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play.



    Check out Susan Fensten’s Memoir based on this story titled, “You have a very soft voice, Susan.”



    Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.



    Bonus episodes:


    Susan Fensten shares a story that didn't make it in her book.


    The full interview with FBI Special Agent Brandon Waller



    Support for this episode is brought to you by HempFusion


    Use promo code PRETEND for 20% off of your first order and free shipping at hempfusion.com. Get HempFusion shipped anywhere in the US.


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    S503: The Cousins part 1 Sep 25, 2019
    Show notes

    This is not your typical internet stalker story. Susan Fensten's tale is one of torture, rape, bondage, cannibalism, and murder. It’s just plain cruel.



    It all started when Susan began looking for distant family members on a genealogy site. While trying to fill the gaps with her family tree, she found herself tangled in a web of lies.




    Her newfound cousin, Leonard Nachman, bombarded her with pornographic emails and a picture of himself masturbating while wearing nylon bodysuits. It was disturbing.




    But I don't want to give away too much of the story. After you’re done listening to part one, get an early preview of part two on Patreon.




    Also, check out Susan Fensten’s Memoir based on this story titled, “You have a very soft voice, Susan.”




    Subscribe to PRETEND on your favorite podcast app: Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play.




    Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.


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    If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.


    For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.


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    S502: The Sugar Daddy part 2 Sep 11, 2019
    Show notes

    Alan Canty spent most of his lunch breaks rendezvousing with an 18-year-old sex worker named Dawn Spens in the seedy streets of downtown Detroit. His wife Jan Canty had no idea he was living a double-life.


    A real-life Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde saga


    Alan Canty was a prominent psychologist but to Dawn, and her pimp John “Lucky” Fry, he was known as Dr. Alan Miller. He developed an alter ego in order to protect his two worlds from colliding. However, secrets can’t last forever. One day, Alan Canty’s love affair came to a tragic end.


    Links and sources:

    If you enjoyed the story, check out Lowell Lowell Cauffiel’s book titled Masquerade


    To read Jan Canty’s memoir visit Amazon or www.jancantyphd.com



    Credits

    Today’s episode was edited by Bear Beat Productions and additional editing by Molly Brock


    Our Theme is Music by Joe Basie with theChicken.net


    And additional music by Blue Dot Sessions


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    S501: The Sugar Daddy part 1 Aug 28, 2019
    Show notes


    1980s Prostitution in the Streets of Detroit

    Back in the 1980s, Mark Bando was a Detroit police officer working the streets of Detroit. His assignment was to keep tabs on women forced into prostitution, their pimps, and the sugar daddies who kept them in business. Dawn Spens was one of those women. We follow their interlaced story.

    Dawn’s sugar daddy was a prominent psychologist named Alan Canty. He would meet her for sex during his lunch break. This relationship went on for two years. Meanwhile, his wife Jan Canty didn’t know what was really going on. This rendezvous didn’t last forever. Hear how Alan Canty’s double life was exposed.


    Meet the characters

    The Sugar Daddy- Alan Canty

    The Sex Worker- Dawn Spens

    The Pimp- John “Lucky”


    Links and sources:

    If you enjoyed the story, check out Lowell Lowell Cauffiel’s book titled Masquerade


    To read Jan Canty’s memoir visit Amazon or www.jancantyphd.com


    This is part one of a two-part series. Subscribe to Patreon to listen to part two right now



    Credits

    This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva

    Edited by Molly Brock

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear

    Theme music by Joe Basile and thechicken.net


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    S411: The Norco Bank Heist part 2 Jul 31, 2019
    Show notes

    The Norco Security Pacific Bank heist was just the beginning.


    The thief in the night

    George Smith and his friend Chris Harven decided to rob a bank in Norco, California. And just like in the movies, these bank robbers charged into the bank and demanded all the money. Except, it was a Friday afternoon, and the vault was pretty much empty.


    In part one of The Norco Bank Heist, we left off as the bank robbers blasted away the Sheriff Deputies arriving at the scene.



    Doomsday

    Peter Houlahan, author of the book “Norco ‘80” says that “There were over 500 rounds fired—200 of them shot at [Deputy Glyn] Balasky alone. They hit his vehicle 46 times, wounding him badly in the elbow. All three of the responding deputies had their vehicle struck multiple times. There were bullets in citizens cars, in houses, in the storefronts. Everything in that intersection was hit with gunfire. Five civilians had been injured.”


    The Riverside County Sheriff's deputies were completely overwhelmed in the firefight. They never really stood a chance.



    The pursuit

    George Wayne Smith and his buddies managed to flee the scene and are on their way to get the cold cars parked a few miles away. But how did this chaotic chase end 60 miles east in a remote canyon heading towards the Mojave desert?


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    Norco ’80


    Buy a copy of Norco ’80: The True Story of the Most Spectacular Bank Robbery in American Historyby Peter Houlahan on Amazon or wherever you get your books.



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