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Polite Conversations

Growing up in Saudi Arabia as a Pakistani, who now resides in Canada, Eiynah brings a global perspective to discussions about religion, politics, culture & sexuality – through the lens of a progressive ex-muslim immigrant. This podcast often focuses on unpacking various forms of extremism, particularly types that are less overt and masquerading as ‘intellectual’. Eiynah has a specific interest in covering online scenes like New Atheism and the Intellectual Dark Web.

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Episode 45 - Misogyny & the Manosphere (Part 2) May 23, 2018

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Here's part two of the episode about the Manosphere. If you haven't listened to part one, you can find that here https://soundcloud.com/politeconversations/episode-44-misogyny-the-manosphere-part-1Some other relevant links to what was discussed: Trump and rape/sexual misconduct allegations https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497799354/a-list-of-donald-trumps-accusers-of-inappropriate-sexual-conduct On Trump being sued for racist leasing practices https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/trumps-long-history-of-racism-w497876Roosh V on Dr. Oz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siVCxIXsZWIVillage Voice article I mentioned by Talia Lavin: https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/05/03/the-harpy-someone-please-tell-the-times-that-incels-are-terrorists/----If you enjoy the show please consider supporting. Without listeners like you this isn't possible https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos

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Episode 44 - Misogyny & the Manosphere (part 1) May 15, 2018

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This episode (part 1 of 2) I have Manosphere expert Kevin Logan @KFLogan and former MRA/MGTOW David Sherratt @4lternate_facts joining me to shed some light on what the ‘Manosphere' is & how it intersects with the alt right and racism. We discuss various extremist elements within & how they branch out to have a ‘more respectable face', and we also break down the terminology in relation to the recent Toronto attack.Quick reference for anyone who isn’t so familiar with that scene: MRA = Men’s Rights ActivistMGTOW = Men Going Their Own WayPUA = Pick up ArtistryPlease forgive the audio being crackly in the first 3 mins after the episode begins. That was quickly resolved and the audio is fine after that. Here are some of the links mentioned:Kevin Logan's Descent of Manopshere series can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhwbfYa2xRk&list=PLsCEXiXqx9ihM_rmHKKfrVbCdCdO2nBiCVillage Voice article I mention by Talia Lavin: https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/05/03/the-harpy-someone-please-tell-the-times-that-incels-are-terrorists/Karen Straughan on Breivik : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz3YxFbrwsYIf you enjoy the show please consider supporting via Patreon.com/nicemangos - without listeners like you, this isn't possible. You can also support the show by leaving an iTunes Review https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/polite-conversations/id1086199663?mt=2

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PC Panel 14 - Are too Many Atheists Veering Dangerously Towards the Alt Right? Apr 19, 2018

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This episode I have @ChrisDStedman who wrote the 'controversial' Vice piece with the same title...and James Croft (@JFLCroft) who wrote another piece delving deeper into the issue joining me to explore this question. You can read both their pieces here: https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/3k7jx8/too-many-atheists-are-veering-dangerously-toward-the-alt-right?__twitter_impression=truehttp://www.patheos.com/blogs/templeofthefuture/2018/04/the-atheist-alt-right-connection/You can read the Friendly Atheist rebuttal piece here: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/04/03/no-most-atheists-are-not-veering-dangerously-toward-the-alt-right/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter----if u enjoy the show pls consider supporting via Patreon https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos - without listeners like you, this isn't possible.

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Episode 43 - Alex Jones' Ex Wife, Kelly Jones Apr 10, 2018

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A conversation with Alex Jones' ex wife. Follow her on twitter @AlexJones_Ex

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AMA 1 - Peterson, Movement Atheism, Modesty garb & More! Apr 03, 2018

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Here is AMA 1 - finally! ----Note: in the email I read from a person who is being attracted to Peterson's work... I mention that we can have disagreements with the left and still be on the left..and how there shouldn't be a strict orthodoxy - I want to clarify this isn't like a Seth Andrews or Rubin type position where I think it's ok to 'agree to disagree' on even the most important issues. We all draw moral lines and that's good and it means we stand up for our principles. I don't think it's ok to befriend Nazis (had a whole convo with Sherlock about this in an earlier episode), and on a less extreme scale I don't think its ok to just hang with well documented bigots like Ben Shapiro (unless challenging them on their bigotry - not just belief in god) either, Nor do i think it's ok to prop up those who think comparing diverse religions to Nazism is acceptable. These aren't minor disagreements, these are clear ethical issues for me. When I talk about leftist orthodoxy, I mean more like jumping on well meaning people who made a bad joke once, or used a term they weren't aware was bad.Most recently this Rubinesque character Lindsay Sheperd has been claiming the left wants to erase the nuance between white nationalism and white supremacy..so she's leaving the left - This is nonsense. If u want endless nuance around white nationalism and white supremacy, ur likely...not on the left.Just wanted to make that clear in case someone thought I was like turning into a fence sitter. There seems to be a lot of that going around. ---My posts on Peterson: http://nicemangos.blogspot.ca/2017/07/professor-jordan-peterson-charlatan.htmlhttp://nicemangos.blogspot.ca/2017/11/free-speech-activists-deplatform.htmlhttp://nicemangos.blogspot.ca/2018/01/jordan-peterson-his-strange-atheist.html------If you enjoy my work please consider supporting via Patreon https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos and/or leaving an iTunes review https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/polite-conversations/id1086199663?mt=2

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PC Panel 13 (Part 2) - Lawrence Krauss: Allegations & Responses Mar 22, 2018

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This is a continuation from last week's episode with @TheGodlessMama, @seriouspod (Thomas Smith) & @Chrisiousity. If you haven't heard that yet - I recommend you check that out first. You can find it here: https://soundcloud.com/politeconversations/krausspanelIf you enjoy the show please consider supporting via: patreon.com/nicemangos or leave an iTunes review at: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/polite-conversations/id1086199663?mt=2

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PC Panel 13 (Part 1) - Lawrence Krauss: Allegations & Responses Mar 12, 2018

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Join me, @Chrisiousity, @TheGodlessMama & Thomas Smith (@Seriouspod) for a discussion about the allegations against Krauss and the general responses in the atheist scene. In this panel, I have an email from Sam Harris to read out as well. Please bear in mind that the Panel was recorded on March 6, the intro a few days later, so some things discussed here may have changed or updated since. Some links:In the intro I mention the Very Bad Wizards episodes on the Penis Hoax, you can check those out here: https://verybadwizards.fireside.fm/116https://verybadwizards.fireside.fm/118A description from their page says, " Does the recent "Sokal-like" hoax expose the ideological extremism of gender studies? Or does it show that certain portions of the "skeptic" community are susceptible to the same biases as their opponents?”You can check out Thomas Smith’s episodes on Krauss here: https://seriouspod.com/sio124-lawrence-krauss-accused-sexual-misconduct-interview-monette-richards/https://seriouspod.com/sio126-lawrence-krauss-responds-to-allegations/Godless Mama’s episode on this can be found here: https://godlessmama.com/2018/02/27/ive-had-enough/Chrisiousity’s blogpost can be found here: https://chrisiousity.wordpress.com/tag/mythcon-sargon-of-akkad/You can check out Krauss ‘response’ here:https://twitter.com/LKrauss1/status/971488263759282176The original Buzzfeed story here: https://www.buzzfeed.com/peteraldhous/lawrence-krauss-sexual-harassment-allegations?utm_term=.jlOVY6Yoq#.lmEavXvBJSam and Matt’s (partial) statement here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_68W43LrQTgSam’s newer statement from his AMA here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vuBhKPy1As—if you enjoy this show please consider supporting via Patreon here, without listeners like you this show isn’t possible. https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos

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PC Panel 12 - The intersection of Religion & Tech Feb 28, 2018

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This episode, I've got two tech people @bobcaswell & @loremgibson who are also ex-religionists, joining me to discuss fun topics like Mormon Transhumanism, 'what happens to nose jobs after resurrection', practising Islam in space, ISIS debates on autotune and much more! We spoke at one point about religious expectations of charity, and how in Pakistan banks extract a % from your account automatically. It may have come across as me saying that figure was 10%, but I apologize for that confusion..i think the figure is more like 2.5%? (i'm not entirely sure abt the exact percentage) But here's an article with more detail on that: https://propakistani.pk/2016/06/06/zakat-to-be-automatically-deducted-from-bank-accounts-with-rs-35557-above/

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PC Panel 11 - Contrapoints & Hbomberguy on 'Engaging the Other Side' Jan 24, 2018

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We chat about Social media, Leftist Youtube, 'engaging the other side' and deflecting tactics that cause discourse in general to devolve into nothingness..Enjoy! -----Re: Pinker I think it's totally fair to be upset at anyone who misrepresented him as an open fan of the Alt right, however there's no balance between criticism of that position and the fact that what he was saying was also concerning. Especially being framed as 'Political Correctness might be redpilling America'. People are so blinded by the 'evil left' narrative that they mindlessly latch on to it wherever and don't bother with any analysis beyond that. More thoughts on the Pinker clip in this thread: https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/951166485770227713If you enjoy this show, pls consider supporting via Patreon https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos

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PC Panel Discussion 10 - Fascist Feminism Jan 03, 2018

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You've heard the Fascist Fashion episodes, now its time for a deep dive into 'Fascist Feminism'. Recently some Alt Right women have been speaking out against Alt Right men who mistreat them and tell them to basically fit the tradwife roles they've all been advocating for *themselves* --Except the Alt Right women's tone changes when those tradrules start being applied to them!Join me, @CoherentStates & youtuber Kristi Winters @KWintie for a closer look at this fascinating, absurd hypocrisy....Literal Nazi Feminists.. (they're not real feminists of course, but its funny to think of them as 'fighting for women's rights' -something they actively oppose- in today's neo nazi movements)actual Feminazi's exist...Who knew! :PHere are some links that were referred to in the podcast:A thread I did on Andrew Anglin's 'style guide' https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/941389461111345154Southern's 'why i'm not married' video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-UKPpmQlysPeterson's concerning, confused views on sexuality and consent: https://twitter.com/21logician/status/831020059212541956Peter Sweden & Tara McCarthy agree kicking someone out of a club for wearing immodest clothing is ok: https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/926589230779953153My piece on Faith Goldy being deplatformed from a 'free speech event' by 'free speech activists' like Peterson and Saad http://nicemangos.blogspot.ca/2017/11/free-speech-activists-deplatform.htmlBlonde in the Belly of the Beast clip: https://twitter.com/ViniKako/status/831652516836364288Wives with a purpose vid seems to have been flagged on original channel but here is a mirror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Bxfx7trf0*Pls note that this convo was recorded in late December, last year. ---If you enjoy the show please consider supporting via patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos - without listeners like you, this isn't possible.

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