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How to Navigate a Toxic Work Environment Sep 01, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the three most problematic toxic workplace scenarios, and how to manage each of them. Plus, wait ‘til the end to hear a bonus fourth toxic workplace scenario that you probably haven’t considered.

00:00 Intro

01:42 Defining “toxicity” in the workplace

04:14 Stats on toxic workplaces

05:43 Toxic coworkers and how to handle them

11:46 How Kaila handled a former toxic coworker

16:34 Toxic bosses and how to handle them

24:45 An important note on “toxic bosses”

25:59 Toxic workplace environments/companies, and how to handle them

32:19 When you find out that YOU’RE the toxic person

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Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

The Leadership Traits the Top 1% of Executives Use to Climb the Ladder Aug 25, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle get educated on the four most important qualities of leadership that separate the top 1% of executives from the rest. Cassie Young, General Partner at Primary Venture Partners, joins Kaila and Kyle this week to discuss why these are the most important (and underappreciated) leadership traits, and why it’s important to know them even if you’re not a leader yourself.

00:00 Intro

02:32 Cassie’s career trajectory

08:00 “Highly forgettable people”

09:39 A tip for when deciding on a job based on the manager

10:21 The value of P&L fluency

15:44 Cassie’s favorite hack for getting more fluent in profit and loss

16:52 “First Team” leadership

24:03 “Pulse on Macromarket”

29:08 The importance of “bat phone” relationships

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Can You Get Wealthy With Just Your 9 to 5 Job Anymore? Aug 18, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are discussing whether or not you can actually get wealthy in your 9 - 5 alone anymore. Is the American Dream dead, or just evolved? Listen to hear their takes on the best types of companies to work for if you want to build wealth without the side hustle.

00:00 Intro

01:40 How money has played a role in career motivation for Kaila

04:14 How money factored into Kyle’s career path

07:15 Stats on people’s perceptions of wealth

09:13 Where the traditional ideas about generating wealth are starting to break down

14:18 The different paths today towards building wealth

17:00 The pros and cons of getting equity in your company

25:20 Evaluating your own expectations

29:53 The value if having an “F U fund”

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Balancing Friendship Inside & Outside of Work, with Morning Brew Daily’s Neal Freyman & Toby Howell Aug 11, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Morning Brew Daily hosts Neal Freyman and Toby Howell to talk about a subject they know better than anyone—the reality of having a work bestie. Listen to hear Neal and Toby share the story of how they went from colleagues, to friends, to podcast co-hosts, and the unexpected benefits and potential drawbacks of having such a tight working relationship.

00:00 Intro

02:09 How Neal and Toby originally became friends

07:58 How being both friends and colleagues has affected their work

10:12 Developing the Morning Brew Daily show

13:31 On the period that Toby and Neal were together 24/7

16:14 Advice for someone unsure about cultivating a deep friendship at work

20:30 The difference between having work friends at a small company versus a larger one

23:00 Neal and Toby answer questions from their own Morning Brew Daily production team

29:41 Game:

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What Parental Leave is Actually Like Aug 04, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss Kyle’s experience of paternity leave so far, what’s been the most surprising to him, and how he’s feeling about returning to his 9 to 5.

00:00 Intro

01:32 Stats on maternity vs. paternity leave in the U.S.

05:02 Research on the impact of taking paternity leave on a father’s brain

08:11 How pat leave has been for Kyle

13:53 Kyle’s feelings around returning to work

18:24 How boundaries shift after paternity leave

23:37 How Kaila’s thinking about parental leave

33:41 The systemic problem that lack of parental leave policy in the U.S. is creating

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Business IS Personal, and Other Non-Obvious Truths Jul 28, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle debate what they consider to be some non-obvious but very real truths about the nature of work and career. Plus, listen ‘til the end of the episode to hear Kaila’s bonus productivity hack.

00:00 Intro

00:26 “Per YOUR Last Email” segment

02:32 Non-Obvious Truth #1

05:30 The 3 “right” ways to be exploited at work

11:35 Non-Obvious Truth #2

19:33 Non-Obvious Truth #3

26:18 Bonus Productivity Hack of the Week

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The 4 Types of Jobs Everyone Should Experience at Least Once Jul 21, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss and debate the four types of jobs that they think everyone should have at least once in their career. Plus, listen ‘til the end to hear Kaila’s work fail of the week.

00:00 Intro

01:06 Job #1

06:21 Pros and cons of working for a name brand

10:54 Job #2

20:04 Job #3

23:44 Job #4

29:32 Sequencing your career trajectory

32:08 Kaila’s work fail of the week

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Why Office Politics Can Actually Be a Good Thing Jul 14, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the ins and outs of office politics, what it REALLY is, and how to improve on your office politicking skills in order to advance your career.

00:00 Intro

03:09 The two buckets of office politics

07:48 Can you opt out of office politics?

10:24 Advice for groups who face more biases in the workplace

12:57 MIT study on promotions based on potential

15:07 Kaila and Kyle’s personal experience with office politics

20:34 Office politics for remote employees

23:02 Using meetings to build buy-in

26:41 Asking for a promotion

29:19 Game: How Would You Respond?

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How to Motivate Yourself – Even When You’re Burned Out Jul 07, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the difference between extrinsic and intrinsic motivation, and how to artificially generate it when you find yourself lacking motivation.

00:00 Intro

00:51 Intrinsic motivation vs extrinsic motivation

03:08 Kyle’s intrinsic motivation vs Kaila’s extrinsic motivation

08:56 How Kaila hacks her motivation

14:52 Research-backed strategies for increasing motivation

19:24 Self-Determination Theory

21:50 Manufacturing competition

27:19 Two more tactics for hacking extrinsic motivation

32:52 Adam Grant’s study on radiologists

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Am I the A-Hole? Coworker Gifts, Applying for the Same Job As Your Friend, and More Jun 30, 2025

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into some conversation-sparking Reddit “Am I the A******?” submissions, and give their candid opinions on each. From whether or not you should share details of your personal life with your coworkers, to the ethics of applying for the same job as a friend, Kaila and Kyle bring some strong opinions.

00:00 Intro

00:53 Scenario #1 - Retirement Gift

05:14 Scenario #2 - Applying for the Same Job as Your Friend

10:00 Scenario #3 - Keeping Personal Life Private at Work

18:25 Scenario #4 - Not Working Hard

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