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    Per My Last Email

    Is it okay to ask your coworker how much they make? Is Gen Z set up for failure in the workplace? Should you really bring your whole self to work? Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle—whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit, and startup sectors—debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them.

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    The “Enshittification” of Work: Why Your Career Feels Broken Oct 05, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dive into Kaila’s theory that we’re seeing the “enshittification” of work, and how it is impacting the job market, college, and the career ladder. Listen to hear them explain the theory, and discuss what you as either a job-holder or job-seeker can do about it.

    00:00 Intro

    01:24 Where the inspiration for this topic came from

    05:13 What we mean by “enshittification”

    11:13 The promise we were sold of college

    15:49 The “planned obsolescence” of the career ladder

    18:50 The messiness of the job market

    25:54 Advice for navigating the “enshittification” of work

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

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    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    What Gen Z Really Thinks About Work, Loyalty, and Ambition Sep 28, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Morning Brew creators Annie Bennett and Meg Baniewicz to talk about Gen Z and work—the stereotypes, myths, truths, and how they REALLY feel about all of it.

    00:00 Intro

    01:44 How Annie and Meg come up with work-based sketch ideas

    04:40 The work life themes resonating with people right now (beyond AI)

    09:16 The technological shift that defines Gen Z

    12:18 Has the role of the office changed for Gen Z?

    15:34 Is Gen Z trying to “act their wage”?

    23:22 Lightning Round

    This episode was sponsored by Croissant. Croissant handles the sourcing, bookings, and vendors for your distributed team all in one place. Try Croissant now and they'll host lunch for you and your team in a Croissant space. Go to: getcroissant.com/PMLE.

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

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    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    5 Daily Habits That Could Transform Your Career by Year-End Sep 21, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle break down a 5-step plan on how to make the most of the last 100 days of the year, and how to not only achieve your goals, but also improve upon them.

    00:00 Intro

    01:33 The inspiration for this episode

    04:26 Why we made the Last 100 Days of the Year plan

    06:26 Step 1

    09:51 Step 2

    11:23 Step 3

    13:07 Step 4

    16:32 Step 5

    18:23 Preparing to start the Last 100 Days of the Year plan

    This episode was sponsored by Croissant. Croissant handles the sourcing, bookings, and vendors for your distributed team all in one place. Try Croissant now and they'll host lunch for you and your team in a Croissant space. Go to: getcroissant.com/PMLE.

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

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    TikTok: @permylastemailshow

    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    The Problem with “Executive Presence” Sep 14, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the idea of “executive presence”—what it is and is NOT, why it can be harmful, and how to either adopt or navigate around it in order to move forward in your career.

    00:00 Intro

    02:05 The problem with the idea of “executive presence”

    07:27 The chicken or egg problem

    10:31 Game: Executive Presence or Executive Privilege?

    16:59 Listener email about executive presence

    20:09 Amanda Goetz’s KUBA framework

    22:53 How to handle it if someone tells you that you don’t have executive presence

    This episode was sponsored by Croissant. Croissant handles the sourcing, bookings, and vendors for your distributed team all in one place. Try Croissant now and they'll host lunch for you and your team in a Croissant space. Go to: getcroissant.com/PMLE.

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

    Instagram: @permylastemailshow

    TikTok: @permylastemailshow

    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    6 Habits to Steal From the Most Successful Leaders Sep 07, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle talk about the habits they’ve observed in the most effective and successful leaders they know, and how to incorporate them into your own work life. (And let’s just say a few of them are a bit controversial.)

    00:00 Intro

    02:31 Habit #1

    08:50 Habit #2

    12:38 Habit #3

    17:59 Habit #4

    21:18 Habit #5

    24:32 Habit #6

    This episode was sponsored by Croissant. Croissant handles the sourcing, bookings, and vendors for your distributed team all in one place. Try Croissant now and they'll host lunch for you and your team in a Croissant space. Go to: getcroissant.com/PMLE.

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

    Instagram: @permylastemailshow

    TikTok: @permylastemailshow

    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    Am I the A**hole? Clapping Back at Work, Refusing a Referral and More Aug 31, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle bring you another round of a fan favorite: Am I The A******? Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle react to some of the wildest, work-related AITA posts on Reddit, and weigh in with their professional advice.

    00:00 Intro

    00:25 Scenario 1 | Clapping back at a coworker

    06:41 Scenario 2 | Office desk assignment

    12:44 Scenario 3 | Job referral

    18:27 Scenario 4 | Covering my friend’s maternity leave

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

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    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    4 Types of Networking You’re Probably Ignoring Aug 24, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into the more subtle (but incredibly important) forms of networking that you might not be thinking about. Whether it’s honing your personal brand or expanding your weak ties, Kaila and Kyle share some excellent tips on the more unexpected ways to network.

    00:00 Intro

    00:39 Kaila’s experience with back-channeling

    04:26 Peer-to-peer networking

    10:56 Building up weak ties

    14:16 Building your personal brand

    18:42 Ways to grow your personal brand (beyond posting on LinkedIn)

    20:17 The networking you do with your own boss

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

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    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    BONUS: The Career Advice We Wish We Knew in Our 20s (Live) Aug 20, 2026
    Show notes

    In this special bonus episode, Kaila and Kyle tape their very first live episode at Verizon HQ in Basking Ridge, New Jersey. Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle share what they learned from their own early career experiences with Verizon’s intern class (aka VTerns), as well as hear professional insights and advice from Christina Schelling, Verizon’s own SVP of Human Resources (whose early career experiences include working for the CIA).

    00:00 Intro

    03:08 Kaila’s internship experience at Goldman Sachs

    04:19 Kyle’s first career experiences

    08:57 On figuring out what you want to do with your career

    11:41 The 30-60-90 Framework

    16:41 On learning from your bosses

    17:47 Using naivete to your advantage

    19:59 SVP of Human Resources, Christina Schelling

    22:02 Christina’s experience at the CIA

    26:41 The unexpected skills that are becoming more valuable today

    30:25 The areas that young professionals should focus on developing in the first 5 years

    35:33 The cost of perfectionism in your career

    39:37 The questions young professionals should ask in interviews

    This episode was sponsored by Verizon. Visit mycareer.verizon.com to apply to open roles and learn more about working at Verizon today.

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

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    TikTok: @permylastemailshow

    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    Why “Good Enough” Is Better for Your Career Aug 17, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss why perfectionism is actually a negative at work (and in life), and how to overcome it. And as a self-proclaimed recovering perfectionist, Kaila offers some excellent tactics and tips.

    00:00 Intro

    01:48 The misconception about perfectionism

    06:16 The impacts of perfectionism

    14:38 On whether we overrate intelligence

    16:22 Measuring the delta between time and output

    19:31 100 rejections in 100 days

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

    Instagram: @permylastemailshow

    TikTok: @permylastemailshow

    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    The Most Overrated Work Perks (And the Ones You're Ignoring) Aug 10, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into and debate the most overrated and underrated work perks, and how to make the most of the ones you’re probably overlooking. Summer Fridays? Education credits? Unlimited PTO? You might be surprised by some of their controversial takes.

    00:00 Intro

    00:14 Reviewing the Morning Brew company party

    05:09 Kaila’s party strength vs. Kyle’s party strength

    06:53 Are company parties a good work perk?

    08:42 Underrated work perk #1

    10:28 Underrated work perk #2

    11:37 Underrated work perk #3

    14:15 Underrated work perk #4

    15:04 Underrated work perk #5

    16:18 Overrated work perk #1

    18:35 Overrated work perk #2

    21:57 Overrated work perk #3

    24:45 Overrated work perk #4

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

    Instagram: @permylastemailshow

    TikTok: @permylastemailshow

    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


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