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    Per My Last Email

    Is it okay to ask your coworker how much they make? Is Gen Z set up for failure in the workplace? Should you really bring your whole self to work? Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle—whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit, and startup sectors—debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them.

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    From Happy Hour to Zyn: Navigating Drug Culture at the Office Mar 16, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss drug culture and how to navigate it when it interacts with your professional life. Should you talk about your weekend marijuana use with your colleagues? Is Zyn use at the office hurting your reputation? And how many drinks should you actually have at the company party?

    00:00 Intro

    01:23 Disclaimer

    04:01 Accepted and normalized drugs

    08:17 Navigating drinking culture in the workplace

    15:11 Discussing marijuana at work

    23:07 Zyn

    29:13 Per YOUR Last Email

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

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    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!



    The 100th Episode Special: Work News, Gen Z & an HR Performance Review Mar 09, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle celebrate the 100th episode of Per My Last Email with a fun and informative variety show, followed by a surprise walk down memory lane at the end.

    00:00 Intro

    00:32 News You Can Use

    07:55 A check-in with our Gen Z correspondents

    15:00 Game: Slay or Nay?

    18:41 Skillcation report

    23:47 Per My Last Email gets a performance review

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

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    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    Why You Should Stop Chasing Money and Start Chasing Obsession, with Bill Gurley Mar 02, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kyle sits down with venture capitalist and author Bill Gurley to talk about how to figure out your passion, what people get wrong about networking, and why pursuing your dream career isn’t such an idealistic idea.

    00:00 Intro

    01:23 How do we recognize if we have a “passion”?

    04:40 Do we spend enough time in a sampling period?

    08:48 Something Bill advises young people to ask of older adults

    09:14 How Bill responds to the pushback that people should aim for a stable, money-making career instead of their dream jobs

    11:21 On mentorship and networking

    17:09 Bill’s “Go where the action is” principle

    21:54 Advice to people early in their career with regards to emerging technologies

    Be sure to check out Bill’s new book, Runnin’ Down a Dream: How to Thrive in a Career You Actually Love.

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

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    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

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    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!



    Why Emotional Intelligence is More Important Than Ever at Work Feb 23, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss their thoughts on the age-old question: is it ever okay to be emotional at work? Listen to hear their anecdotes of crying with colleagues, surface acting vs. deep acting, and why they think emotional intelligence is so crucial at this point in time.

    00:00 Intro

    04:26 The aim of this episode

    07:27 Affective Events Theory

    09:53 Primal Leadership by Daniel Goleman

    14:15 Is going with your gut an example of being emotional?

    17:33 The contagious effect of emotions

    20:42 Crying at work

    25:16 Surface acting vs. deep acting

    27:42 The gender disparity when it comes to emotions in the workplace

    29:57 Tactics

    32:20 Per YOUR Last Email

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

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    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!



    AI at Work: What We Got Wrong (And the Use Cases That Actually Work) Feb 16, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle revisit the topic of AI (2 years after their first episode on the topic) and discuss the major objections to AI, how the perception of the technology has changed recently, and the best ways to use it to enhance your work.

    00:00 Intro

    01:27 How our perceptions of AI have changed in the past 2 years

    03:56 The shifting public perception of AI - efficiency vs. enhancement

    12:38 First objection to AI - environmental concerns

    18:13 Second objection to AI - it’s weakening our ability to think

    22:08 Third objection to AI - the controversy over the way AI was trained

    23:41 Use cases and tactics

    31:44 The most common error Kyle sees people making with AI

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

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    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    Job Kissing, AI Slop, and Our Work Life Predictions for 2026 Feb 09, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle share their predictions for work and work culture in 2026. From “job kissing” to the careers we think might be eliminated in 2026, you’re not going to want to miss this episode.

    00:00 Intro

    01:48 Prediction #1: Slight imperfections will be a sign of effort

    06:06 Prediction #2: There will be a premium on being able to explain the business impact of your work

    08:50 Prediction #3: “Job kissing”

    13:06 Prediction #4: Your degree and your network will matter more than ever before

    17:18 Prediction #5: The two career paths that won’t exist by 2027

    23:54 Prediction #6: Career growth is going to become a lot harder

    27:12 Bonus Wackadoodle predictions

    28:32 Per My Last Policy

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

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    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

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    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    Everyone Feels Uncertain at Work Right Now—Here’s How to Handle It Feb 02, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss uncertainty at the individual, external, and societal level, and share their best strategies for managing and coping with the anxiety that comes with it.

    00:00 Intro

    03:08 Addressing uncertainty on the individual level

    08:57 Kyle’s bucketing approach for tackling uncertainty

    15:23 Dealing with external, corporate-level uncertainty

    22:28 Discussing uncertainty at the societal level

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

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    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    BONUS: What Makes a Workplace People Actually Love? Jan 29, 2026
    Show notes

    In this special bonus episode, Kaila and Kyle sit down with Industrious president Anna Squires Levine to discuss the role that connection plays at work, the future of offices and hybrid vs. remote work, the role of leadership in the modern workplace, and advice on making career pivots.

    00:00 Intro

    01:16 University of Chicago Booth School of Business study on human connection

    07:45 What most companies get wrong about how to design a great working environment

    10:31 Advice for companies trying to introduce more fun into their culture

    12:42 How should leaders think about creating a great workplace given the mixture of hybrid, remote, and in-office employees?

    15:57 Game: Ask Anna

    22:43 How Anna approaches building a culture of energy (vs. one of burnout)

    25:37 Anna’s advice for those looking to make a career pivot

    29:47 What parenting has taught Anna about navigating work

    This episode was sponsored by Industrious. Try out Industrious for yourself with a day pass OR a meeting room booking, now 50% off for Per My Last Email listeners. Visit industriousoffice.com/pmle to get your discount or free tour.

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

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    TikTok: @permylastemailshow

    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!



    The Biggest Money Mistakes of Our Careers – and How You Can Avoid Them Jan 26, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle get into personal finance—the money lessons they learned the hard way throughout their careers, and how they approach managing their savings, investments, and spending now.

    00:00 Intro

    02:36 A big wake-up call money moment in Kaila’s life

    07:27 Kyle’s big wake-up call money moment

    10:21 Kaila’s experience with lifestyle creep

    13:56 An important salary negotiation in Kyle’s career

    18:10 Learning to how to spend based on your values

    21:40 Structuring your compensation

    25:18 How Kaila and Kyle structure their savings and personal finances

    This episode was sponsored by Industrious. Try out Industrious for yourself with a day pass OR a meeting room booking, now 50% off for Per My Last Email listeners. Visit industriousoffice.com/pmle to get your discount or free tour.

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

    Instagram: @permylastemailshow

    TikTok: @permylastemailshow

    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!


    Commit to Sh*t: The Productivity Advice No One Tells You Jan 19, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle share the productivity tips that help them accomplish their to-do list, and to get your 2026 off to a strong start.

    00:00 Intro

    02:20 Kaila’s and Kyle’s word of the year

    04:30 Productivity tip #1: The Sunday Setup

    09:29 Productivity tip #2: The Bullet Journal

    13:06 Productivity tip #3: Commit to S***

    16:57 Productivity tip #4: Lean into the Eustress Curve

    19:09 Productivity tip #5: Time Block the Bull****

    22:20 Productivity tip #6: Create Boundaries Around Your Energy

    25:18 Productivity tip #7: The Great Filter

    26:03 Bonus listener question

    This episode was sponsored by Industrious. Try out Industrious for yourself with a day pass OR a meeting room booking, now 50% off for Per My Last Email listeners. Visit industriousoffice.com/pmle to get your discount or free tour.

    Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/

    Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:

    @PerMYLastEmailShow

    Follow Per My Last Email

    Instagram: @permylastemailshow

    TikTok: @permylastemailshow

    Twitter: @permylast_email

    Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!



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