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    PassivePockets: The Passive Real Estate Investing Show

    Welcome to PassivePockets: The Passive Real Estate Investing Show– your go-to podcast for building and protecting wealth through smart, passive real estate investments. Hosted by Chris Lopez – this podcast is designed for investors who want to grow without the grind. Each episode features expert interviews with seasoned LPs (Limited Partners) and GPs (General Partners) who share their insights, experiences, and practical advice.

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    Sponsor Trust, Fixed Debt, and the Shift to Passive Investing | Jonathan Greene Oct 20, 2026
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    This Episode

    For lifelong active investors, the hardest part of going passive may be giving up control. Jonathan Greene grew up evaluating properties alongside his father and spent decades investing, managing rentals, and flipping houses before making his first syndication investment.

    Jonathan joins Chris Lopez to explain how he evaluates sponsors, assets, and debt without relying on projected IRRs. He also shares why passive investments have helped him diversify into new markets, preserve capital for his children, and become more selective about the active real estate projects he still wants to pursue.


    Key takeaways:

    • How Jonathan made the transition from active investor to LP

    • Why trust, the underlying asset, and debt matter more than projected returns

    • How monthly reports can reveal problems before a deal goes sideways

    • Why he invested repeatedly with one proven sponsor

    • What attracted him to a wellness resort development in Palm Springs

    • How active and passive investments can strengthen the same portfolio


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    The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.


    Aspen Legacy Fund Deal Review: Evergreen Multifamily, Compounding, and Tax Efficiency Oct 15, 2026
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    This Episode

    Can an evergreen fund deliver the benefits of long-term real estate ownership without forcing investors to start over with every new deal? Ellis Hammond of Aspen Funds presents the Aspen Legacy Fund, a multifamily fund designed to compound capital, limit tax drag, and provide exposure to multiple properties through a single K-1.


    Chris Lopez, Pascal Wagner, and Christine Kwasny examine the fund’s assets, debt, valuation process, liquidity provisions, and investment strategy. They also press Ellis on refinancing risk, related-party investments, NAV calculations, redemption limits, and what investors should understand before treating a two-year lockup as true liquidity.


    Key takeaways:

    • How the evergreen structure is designed to reduce taxes and deployment lag

    • Why the fund reinvests income instead of paying regular distributions

    • How direct ownership, JV investments, and private credit fit into the portfolio

    • How Aspen calculates NAV and values the underlying properties

    • The refinancing risks tied to the fund’s multifamily debt

    • Why redemption requests remain subject to liquidity and best efforts


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    The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.


    Jeremy Roll on Positive Leverage, Market Cycles, and Staying Defensive Oct 13, 2026
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    After nearly 25 years as an LP, Jeremy Roll is 99% on the sidelines. He joins Chris Lopez to explain why he believes real estate still has more pain ahead, what would bring him back into the market, and why positive leverage remains his clearest measure of whether a deal is fairly priced.

    Jeremy also shares the few asset classes he is watching, how he built a portfolio spanning more than 60 active LLCs, and the conservative standards that helped him avoid many of the problems now facing other investors. Plus, he explains why LPs should consider the economic cycle, read every operating agreement, and run background checks before committing capital.


    Key takeaways:

    • Why Jeremy is holding cash while continuing to review deals

    • The opportunities he sees in mobile home parks and senior housing

    • How positive leverage helps determine whether a deal is fairly priced

    • Why he prefers long-term fixed-rate debt and lower leverage

    • How LPs can diversify across deals, operators, markets, and asset classes

    • The due diligence steps Jeremy believes too many investors skip


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    The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.


    Self-Storage in a Bear Market: Big-Box Conversions, Distress, and Buying Below Replacement Cost | Neil Henderson Oct 06, 2026
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    Self-storage has long been considered recession resilient, but what happens when high interest rates freeze the housing market and fewer people move? Neil Henderson of Nomad Capital joins Chris Lopez to explain why the industry is facing one of its most difficult markets in decades and what could finally restart demand.


    Neil also breaks down Nomad’s strategy of converting vacant big-box stores into climate-controlled storage at roughly half the cost of ground-up construction. They discuss current deal economics, slower lease-ups, competition from major REITs, and why shopping centers with existing retail income could offer investors a valuable margin of safety.


    Key takeaways:

    • Why self-storage demand is closely connected to home sales

    • How big-box conversions can cost significantly less than new construction

    • Why slower lease-ups have delayed distributions for storage investors

    • What fixed-rate debt can protect during a difficult market cycle

    • How major storage REITs can pressure smaller operators

    • Where Neil sees the strongest self-storage opportunities heading into 2027


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    The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.


    LP Roundtable: Self-Lending Funds, Capital Calls, Securitization, and Fund Risk Sep 29, 2026
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    Episode #293


    This Episode

    Would you invest in an income fund created primarily to lend money back to its own sponsor? Chris Lopez, Adam Cranmer, Pascal Wagner, and Christy Burakovsky examine the conflicts, hidden risks, and missing checks and balances that LPs should consider before investing on both sides of the same operation.

    The panel also shares real portfolio updates involving capital calls, securitization, debt funds, and multifamily distributions. Plus, they discuss whether monthly payouts should influence an investment decision, how much confidence audited financials should provide, and why several panelists continue converting retirement funds to Roth accounts.


    Key takeaways:

    • The risks of investing in a fund that lends to its own sponsor

    • Why third-party lenders can provide valuable oversight

    • How to distinguish a planned capital call from a troubled one

    • Whether monthly distributions are worth prioritizing over quarterly payouts

    • Why audited financials are only one piece of fund due diligence

    • How the panel approaches Roth conversions and future tax uncertainty


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    The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.


    Inside Performing Second Mortgages: Junior Liens, Private Credit, and Cash Flow | Shawn Muneio Sep 22, 2026
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    This Episode

    What if you could earn real estate-backed income without owning or operating the property? Shawn Muneio joins Chris Lopez to explain how investors can access private credit through performing second-lien mortgages and why today’s high-interest-rate environment has created new opportunities in this overlooked corner of the debt market.

    Shawn breaks down how these loans are sourced, what protects investors when a borrower falls behind, and why equity coverage matters when investing from the second position. They also discuss Regulation A bonds, how they differ from traditional LP investments, and how nonperforming debt can offer an alternative way to source real estate.


    Key takeaways:

    • Why second-lien mortgages are becoming more common

    • How equity coverage can protect junior-lien investors

    • What happens when a borrower stops making payments

    • How Regulation A bonds differ from traditional LP investments

    • Why some investors prefer receiving a 1099 instead of a K-1

    • How nonperforming debt can uncover off-market real estate opportunities


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    LP Deal Review: Red River Development’s 206-Home Waco BTR Project Sep 17, 2026
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    This Episode

    Ryan Watts of Red River Development returns to PassivePockets for an LP Deal Review of the firm’s latest build-to-rent project: a 206-home community currently under construction in Waco, Texas. Ryan walks Chris, Christy Burakovsky, and Pascal Wagner through the project’s capital structure, construction progress, market thesis, and projected exit strategy and explains why Red River believes this point in the development cycle may offer a compelling setup for new BTR supply.


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    The comments, views, opinions and any forecasts of future events, returns or results expressed in this episode reflect the opinions of the given host or participants (including the personal opinions of PassivePockets employees or contractors, as applicable), are subject to change without notice, do not reflect the views of PassivePockets or its affiliates, may not reflect actual investment results, are not guarantees of future events, returns or results and are not intended to provide financial planning, investment advice, legal advice or tax advice. The accuracy, completeness or suitability of the information discussed in this podcast, including any comments, views, opinions, forecasts, graphs, charts, ratings, reviews, videos, and other audio and/or visual aids cannot be guaranteed, are not reviewed by PassivePockets, are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be solely relied upon in making an investment decision. PassivePockets receives compensation from sponsors in exchange for profiling sponsors and/or their sponsored deals in this episode; however, such paid advertisements shall not be construed as an endorsement, testimonial, or recommendation by PassivePockets to invest in any sponsor, investment strategy or investment opportunity. Investing in real estate is inherently risky and suitable only for sophisticated and qualified investors. Prospective investors should consult with their own investment advisors, financial advisors, and tax advisors, as applicable, in connection with any decision to invest.


    The information on this website, including any graphs, charts, ratings, reviews, videos, and other visual aids, is for informational purposes only, and is not an offering of or solicitation to purchase securities or otherwise make an investment. PassivePockets is not responsible for ensuring or verifying that sponsor and/or deal information and offering materials are compliant with applicable law, including but not limited to securities laws or investment advisory regulations. PassivePockets receives compensation from sponsors in exchange for profiling sponsors and/or their sponsored deals on this website; however, such profiles and the sponsor-provided content therein shall not be construed as, and are not, endorsements, testimonials, or recommendations by PassivePockets. Any comments, views, opinions and any forecasts of future events, returns or results expressed in video content posted to this website, whether by PassivePockets, sponsors, or website users, reflect the opinions of the given author or speaker (including the personal opinions of PassivePockets employees or contractors, as applicable), are subject to change without notice, do not reflect the views of PassivePockets or its affiliates, may not reflect actual investment results, are not guarantees of future events, returns or results and are not intended to provide financial planning, investment advice, legal advice or tax advice. The accuracy, completeness or suitability of the (i) information and offering materials provided by a sponsor and (ii) the information discussed in video content posted to this website, including any comments, views, opinions, forecasts, graphs, charts, ratings, reviews, videos, and other visual aids, cannot be guaranteed, are not reviewed by PassivePockets, are provided for informational purposes only, and should not be solely relied upon in making an investment decision. No responsibility or liability is accepted or assumed by PassivePockets or any of its officers, agents or advisors as to the accuracy, sufficiency or completeness of any such video content. Investing in real estate is inherently risky and suitable only for sophisticated and qualified investors. Prospective investors should consult with their own investment advisors, financial advisors, and tax advisors, as applicable, in connection with any decision to invest.


    Sponsors may only offer securities through this website pursuant to Rule 506(c) under Regulation D under the Securities Act of 1933, and the sale of such securities will be strictly limited to those persons who are qualified as “accredited investors” as defined in Rule 501(a) of Regulation D under the Securities Act of 1933. Compliance with these requirements and other applicable securities laws is the sole responsibility of each sponsor, and not PassivePockets.


    Inside a Private Debt Fund: Underwriting, Leverage, Liquidity, and Capital Preservation | Kevin Amolsch Sep 15, 2026
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    This Episode

    Kevin Amolsch returns to PassivePockets to take Chris behind the scenes of private lending and debt funds from how lenders actually make money to the underwriting decisions that determine whether investor capital stays protected when a deal goes sideways.


    Kevin has been lending to real estate investors for nearly two decades through Pine Financial Group, and he walks through how the business evolved from brokering individual private loans into managing diversified debt funds. He explains why Pine prioritizes return of capital over maximizing return on capital, how its fund economics are structured, and why the company is willing to make underwriting more difficult for borrowers if it means creating a larger margin of safety for LPs.


    Chris and Kevin dig into the actual credit box behind these loans: loan-to-ARV limits, borrower liquidity, personal guarantees, credit history, monthly payments, construction draws, and why Kevin will automatically pass on certain out-of-market borrowers. Kevin also explains why Pine is willing in some cases to finance nearly an entire project if the underlying economics and after-repair value create enough protection.

    The conversation also gets into what happens when things go wrong. Kevin shares how Pine evaluates REOs, when taking a loss today may be smarter than holding a property for years, why liquidity mismatches can create problems even when the underlying assets are performing, and how the firm uses leverage conservatively rather than simply maximizing it to boost returns.


    They also discuss fraud risk in private lending, the importance of title insurance and draw controls, and the operational safeguards Kevin believes investors should look for in a debt fund, including audited financials, third-party administration, and outside diligence. Finally, Kevin shares what he’s investing in personally outside of lending—including retail, industrial, and a troubled industrial development where he ultimately chose to buy one of the buildings rather than walk away from his original investment.


    Key Takeaways

    How private lending evolved from individual hard-money loans into diversified debt funds

    Why Pine Financial prioritizes loan-to-ARV, borrower liquidity, guarantees, and monthly payments in its underwriting

    How debt fund economics work—from preferred returns and management fees to origination income and leverage

    Why Kevin views return of capital as more important than maximizing return on capital

    How lenders decide whether to foreclose, hold an REO, take a loss, or redeploy capital

    Why liquidity mismatches can create redemption problems even when a loan portfolio is still performing

    How conservative versus aggressive fund leverage can materially change both returns and risk

    The fraud controls Kevin uses around construction draws, title work, and lien priority

    Why audited financials, third-party administration, and independent diligence matter when evaluating a debt fund

    What Kevin is investing in personally today across retail and industrial real estate


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    The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.


    Pascal Wagner on Cash Flow, Debt Funds, Portfolio Risk, and Building Deal Conviction Sep 08, 2026
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    Episode #289


    This Episode

    Pascal Wagner joins Chris Lopez for a deeper one-on-one conversation about his investing journey, portfolio strategy, and current approach to risk, cash flow, and diversification. Pascal shares how he started in real estate through house hacking and single-family rentals, later gained experience deploying capital at a venture capital fund, and eventually became the financial steward for his family after his father passed away.


    Chris and Pascal unpack how that responsibility shaped Pascal’s investment philosophy: stabilize cash flow first, avoid catastrophic losses, and only take bigger swings once the portfolio can support long-term family needs. Pascal explains why he moved heavily into debt funds, how he thinks about laddering fixed-income investments for liquidity, and why he is now looking to gradually reduce some of that exposure as better equity opportunities emerge.


    The conversation also gets into the tension many LPs face right now: wanting cash flow, wanting tax efficiency, needing diversification, and trying not to become “dumb money” in an unfamiliar asset class. Pascal shares the areas he’s watching most closely, including distressed/repositioning opportunities, office-to-medical-office conversions, hotel-to-multifamily conversions, single-family rentals, private credit, medical receivables, and other non-real-estate income strategies.


    Chris and Pascal also debate how much conviction an investor should build before writing checks in a new asset class, why seeing enough deal flow matters, and why meeting with ten operators in the same strategy can teach you more than any checklist alone. For investors trying to deploy capital in a fragmented private market, this episode is a practical reminder that patience, process, and reps matter.


    Key takeaways:

    How Pascal went from house hacking to managing a multimillion-dollar family portfolio

    Why cash flow became the first constraint in his portfolio strategy

    How Pascal uses debt funds as a stabilizing layer while staying patient for better deals

    Why diversification matters, but only after you understand the asset class well enough to avoid bad risks

    How taxes, liquidity, and ordinary income influence portfolio rebalancing decisions

    Why Pascal is watching repositioning strategies like office-to-medical-office and hotel-to-multifamily conversions

    How investors can build conviction by studying more deals and talking to multiple operators before investing


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    Qualified Opportunity Zones 2.0: Tax Deferral, Active-to-Passive Investing, and Real Estate Gains | Alicia Miller Sep 01, 2026
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    Alicia Miller joins PassivePockets to break down Qualified Opportunity Zones, why they matter for real estate investors, and how they can fit into an active-to-passive transition strategy. Chris and Alicia start with the basics: what a QOZ is, how the original program worked, and why investors with capital gains from selling real estate, a business, or other appreciated assets may want to understand this structure before making their next move.


    They walk through the key differences between QOZ investing and a 1031 exchange, including why QOZs only require investors to reinvest the capital gain, not the full sale proceeds, and why the money does not need to be held by a qualified intermediary. Alicia also explains the original QOZ timeline, the upcoming shift into QOZ 2.0, and how the new version creates a rolling five-year capital gains deferral with a 10% reduction, or 30% for qualifying rural investments.


    Chris and Alicia also dig into a timely QOZ 1.0 strategy: using a valuation study on a development project that has broken ground but is not yet cash flowing. Alicia explains how this could potentially create an upfront capital gains deduction before the original program sunsets, why the timing matters, and how investors should think about the trade-offs between tax benefits, development risk, and long-term hold periods.


    Key takeaways:

    What Qualified Opportunity Zones are and why they were created

    How QOZs can help landlords move from active ownership into passive investments

    Why QOZs differ from 1031 exchanges in timelines, reinvestment rules, and flexibility

    How QOZ 1.0 allowed investors to defer gains until the end of 2026 and potentially receive deductions based on hold period

    What changes under QOZ 2.0, including rolling five-year deferrals and new zone designations

    Why the 10-year hold remains the major long-term tax benefit for QOZ investors

    How valuation studies may create a unique window for certain QOZ 1.0 development investments


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