Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

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Who will be the odd man out in the Browns quarterback room? Hey, Mary Kay! May 27, 2025

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The Browns are about to embark on a four-man quarterback battle and one of the four will end up as the odd man out when all is said and done. Whether that means a trade, a spot on the practice squad or just a release will depend on who it is, but it’s one of the questions on the minds of one of our Football Insider subscribers.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address it on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday on the first day of OTAs.

They discuss the quarterback battle before getting to questions about the state of the wide receiver room and more.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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10 things about the Browns (Pt. 2): Young QBs, young DTs and young WRs May 23, 2025

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The Browns will hold OTAs beginning next week and it has us thinking about some things.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the 10 things Mary Kay Cabot is thinking in a post she put up on Wednesday.

In Part 2 of our podcast, they start by talking about what the young quarterbacks on the roster can learn from the old dogs they’re competing with.

They also talk about the young defensive tackles and what the Browns hope to accomplish inside on the defensive line before they turn their attention to receiver and who they’re watching in that room.

They wrap up the pod with some Memorial Day watching recommendations over the long weekend.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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10 things about the Browns (Pt. 1): The schedule, the tush push and the O-line May 22, 2025

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The Browns will hold OTAs beginning next week and it has us thinking about some things.Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the 10 things Mary Kay Cabot is thinking in a post she put up on Wednesday.

In Part 1 of a two-part podcast, they start by talking about the early schedule and how it might impact the quarterback battle before they turn their attention to the back portion of the schedule and how the Browns face a difficult finish to the 2025 season.

They also talk about the “tush push” surviving and if the Browns could implement the play made famous by the Eagles before they talk about left tackle and expectations for Dawand Jones.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How will the Browns manage their quarterback battle? May 20, 2025

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In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the Browns' quarterback competition and how the Browns will conduct a 4-way battle for the starting job.

They talk about the operation of the competition between Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders and how it will work over the remainder of the offseason program and the importance of having clarity before training camp.There's also the matter of off-the-field work.

Who will stand out in the meeting rooms and how will all of that play into the decision.

They even touch on Deshaun Watson and his recovery and if there's even a sliver of a chance he could play for the Browns again.

Chapters (approximate and AI generated)

0:00: Introduction to the Quarterback Competition

5:11: Analyzing the Quarterback Depth Chart

10:49: The Importance of Pre-Snap Operations

15:55: Evaluating Rookie Quarterbacks

20:09: Deshaun Watson's Recovery and Future

34:10: Conclusion

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What expectations should Browns fans have for 2025? Hey, Mary Kay! May 19, 2025

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The Browns had a disappointing season in 2024. Should fans have expectations this year for a similar season?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answered that question on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

In this episode, they discuss:

2025 Season Expectations (1:18): Will the Browns contend for the No. 1 overall pick?
QB Competition (5:30): Early quarterback competition thoughts with Kenny Pickett, Dillon Gabriel, Joe Flacco, and Shedeur Sanders.
Impact of Schedule (9:00): The difficult schedule and how it impacts the Browns.
Shedeur Sanders Signing (17:05): Shedeur Sanders' contract, the money he lost and the opportunity he has.
Draft Decisions (24:12): Why did the Browns draft two quarterbacks and two running backs?
JOK's Future (33:16): A look at the possibility of JOK ever playing again after his injury.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What did we learn from Browns rookie minicamp with Lance Reisland May 16, 2025

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The Browns held their rookie minicamp last weekend and we’re taking one more look back at what we saw with our film guy, Lance Reisland, on a weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Dan Labbe and Lance talk about what they saw from the Browns’ draft class during the two days they were out at practice.

They start with quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders and how they thought each fared.

Then they move through the rest of the draft class and discuss how Mason Graham looked as well as the two running backs, Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson, and tight end Harold Fannin Jr.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns 2025 schedule release: No prime time games and not many breaks May 15, 2025

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The Browns 2025 schedule is out, meaning we know the when after already knowing the who and where. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe reacted to the schedule on Wednesday night shortly after its release.

They start by discussing the difficulty of the first month and what the Browns face before they head to London in Week 5.

They also talk about when an ideal time might be to put in a rookie quarterback and try to guess how many quarterbacks will start for the Browns this season.

Lastly, they go over what it means for them as far as travel and places Browns fans should consider going.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Would Browns QB Dillon Gabriel have been drafted higher if he were taller? Hey, Mary Kay! May 13, 2025

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The Browns know the who with their schedule and Wednesday night they'll find out the when after the NFL releases its schedule. They already know one game -- Week 5 against the Vikings in London.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk about the schedule release on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday.

They discuss the challenges of playing the Vikings in London before they look at some of this rookie class. Would Dillon Gabriel have been a first-round pick if he were only a little taller? Which non-quarterbacks stood out at rookie minicamp? Did the Browns draft some dogs in this class?

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah will miss 2025; now what for JOK and the Browns? May 13, 2025

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The Browns will be without Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah in 2025 and his football future is in doubt after they placed him on the reserve/PUP list.

That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin their Monday podcast.

They talk about Owusu-Koramoah the player and the person and how the Browns will replace him and if there's hope he could play again. They get into all the things Owusu-Koramoah meant to this defense.

Then they take an abbreviated look back at rookie minicamp and talk about the discourse on the quarterbacks after they practiced for the first time with the Browns.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns rookie quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel, Shedeur Sanders take center stage at rookie minicamp May 11, 2025

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It was quarterback day on the second day of Browns rookie minicamp. Third-round pick Dillon Gabriel and fifth-round pick Shedeur sanders took center stage on Saturday when they spoke to the media before practice. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the day in their daily video report following the second practice of the weekend. They talked about what they heard from Gabriel and Sanders and what it said about each player’s approach to the quarterback competition. They also touched on a few other things some draft picks did, including defensive lineman Mason Graham throwing up during practice and linebacker Carson Schwesinger intercepting Gabriel.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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