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Where do things stand in the Browns quarterback battle after minicamp? Jun 12, 2025

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The Browns wrapped up three days of mandatory minicamp on Thursday and, as has been the case all spring, the four quarterbacks were the center of attention.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reset the quarterback competition on Thursday after watching the final practice.

Is Kenny Pickett the frontrunner to start? What about Joe Flacco and his chance to win the job? Where does Dillon Gabriel fit in all of this? What was up with the team's approach with Shedeur Sanders?

Does the 2026 draft matter more than all of this?

They take a look at where things stand with attention turning towards training camp.

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Shedeur Sanders climbing, Joe Flacco laughing and Diontae Johnson's last chance Jun 12, 2025

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The Browns are giving wide receiver Diontae Johnson a chance to revive his career after a 2024 season that saw the former Pro Bowler bounce around, unable to stick with a team.

Johnson spoke for the first time since signing with the Browns on Wednesday and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to it on Wednesday's minicamp recap podcast.

They also talked about Shedeur Sanders getting some second-team reps ahead of Dillon Gabriel, something we haven't seen yet to this point, and how much it matters.

They wrap up the podcast by talking about Joe Flacco and the vibes around him as he's back in Cleveland and having fun.

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Myles Garrett is ready to step up and Dillon Gabriel is getting first-team reps Jun 10, 2025

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The Browns held their first practice of mandatory minicamp on Tuesday, the first of three days in a row before they take their break leading into training camp.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about what they saw and heard during practice and at the press conferences after when they heard from Myles Garrett, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel.

They discuss what Garrett had to say about embracing a bigger leadership role and whether his lack of attendance at OTAs contradicts it.

They also get into the competition between Gabriel and Sanders and why the Browns are doing what they’re doing with reps even though it might not match exactly what we’re watching each quarterback do.

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Will the Browns regret letting Nick Chubb leave? Hey, Mary Kay! Jun 09, 2025

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Browns fans will have to watch Nick Chubb wear a different uniform this season as he is visiting and expected to sign with the Texans. Our Football Insider subscribers had plenty of questions about Chubb and his departure on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk Chubb and if this could end up being a win-win for him and for the Browns.

They also talk about how different training camp will be this year for the Browns and why it matters before they turn their attention to the quarterback battle.

Why was there such a disconnect between the outside view of Shedeur Sanders and what NFL teams thought? What if the Browns start hot with one of the veterans? Will we see one of the young players?Mary Kay and Dan discuss it all on the eve of mandatory minicamp.

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Will Myles Garrett deliver a signature season and other OTA leftovers Jun 05, 2025

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Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz believes Myles Garrett will have his best season ever -- and needs to after his massive contract extension over offseason.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start with expectations for Garrett on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast and what a best ever season looks like for a former Defensive Player of the Year.

They talk about Dawand Jones and the importance of this season for him and why it matters that he has focused on being in shape this offseason.

Then they address tempering expectations for Shedeur Sanders and being cautious about making big declarations about the fifth-round pick and discuss Aaron Rodgers finally landing in Pittsburgh.

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Which Browns rookie quarterback has the edge right now? Jun 05, 2025

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The Browns quarterback competition continued on Wednesday during the second open OTA practice of the team’s offseason program. It featured both rookie quarterbacks, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders, getting 11-on-11, the first time we saw Sanders take team reps during an open practice.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe cover all things rookie quarterback battle on their practice recap podcast.

They discuss why they believe Gabriel still has the upper hand, even if his performance isn’t necessarily ahead of Sanders right now.

They also talk about the challenges awaiting them in minicamp and if it’s too early to speculate about either quarterback starting.

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Which quarterback fits the Browns' scheme best? Hey, Mary Kay! Jun 03, 2025

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On Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot start off by discussing the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on Shedeur Sanders, Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett.

They analyze the fit of these quarterbacks within the team's offensive scheme, the importance of receiver dynamics, and the potential vulnerabilities in the roster due to injuries. The conversation also touches on the implications of past draft decisions, particularly regarding Jed Wills, and the expectations for the upcoming season.

Some of what they discuss includes:

* Sanders needs to improve his recognition and decision-making.

* Flacco has a strong grasp of the offensive scheme.

* Pickett's development is crucial for the team's success.

* Quarterback compatibility with receivers is essential for offensive success.

* Injuries could significantly impact the wide receiver group.

* The Browns are looking for explosive plays while minimizing turnovers.

* The team's offensive scheme is designed to be quarterback-friendly.

Chapters (AI-generated)

0:00: Introduction and Setting the Scene

1:11: Evaluating Shedeur Sanders' Fit for the Offense

5:22: Quarterback Comparisons: Flacco vs. Sanders

10:19: Kenny Pickett's Development and Challenges

14:47: The Importance of Scheme Fit for Quarterbacks

20:37: Receiver Dynamics and Quarterback Compatibility

27:31: Injury Vulnerabilities in the Roster

34:09: Jed Wills' Career and Future Prospects

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Browns giving Shedeur Sanders team reps and the state of the quarterback competition Jun 02, 2025

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Yes, Shedeur Sanders is getting 11-on-11 team reps, even though we didn’t get to see any of them last week during the lone practice open to the media.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday’s pod from the Browns 25th annual charity golf tournament by discussing head coach Kevin Stefanski’s acknowledgement that Sanders is getting team work along with the other quarterbacks.

They also discuss the state of the quarterback battle and where things stand with two weeks of the offseason program remaining.

Then they get into what left guard Joel Bitonio had to say about the offense and a return to a more familiar Kevin Stefanski style of doing things.

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Do Browns OTA stats matter? + A major award for Mary Kay Cabot May 29, 2025

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In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Wednesday's OTA practice. They focus on the quarterback competition, particularly Shedeur Sanders' performance and emphasize the importance of context in evaluating practice stats.

They also get into the significance of attendance during OTAs.

Then they celebrates Mary Kay winning the Bill Nunn Jr. Award.

Takeaways:

*Shedeur Sanders' impressive stats need context.

*Seven-on-seven drills do not equate to real game performance.

*The importance of 11-on-11 reps in evaluating quarterbacks.

*Shedeur Sanders is an intriguing prospect but currently QB4.

*OTA attendance impacts team dynamics and player competition.

*David Njoku's absence is more concerning given the new offense.

*Mary Kay Cabot's major award.

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0:00 Introduction to OTAs and Shedeur Sanders' Stats

3:02 Contextualizing Quarterback Performance in OTAs

5:56 The Importance of 11-on-11 Reps

8:47 Evaluating Shedeur Sanders' Potential

11:57 OTA Attendance and Its Implications

18:07 Leadership and Team Dynamics in OTAs

25:00 Celebrating Mary Kay's Achievement

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Does Browns' quarterback pecking order matter in OTAs? May 29, 2025

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Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski is stressing this offseason that the order his quarterbacks go during practice doesn't matter as much as we think it does.

On Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe respectfully disagreed.

They started their recap of the first OTA practice open to the media by assessing what they saw from the four-man quarterback battle, who went in which order and how they all looked after seeing the group together for the first time.

They talk about Joe Flacco looking young, Kenny Pickett as the early front runner and how Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders handled their opportunities.

They also talked about some other non-quarterback takeaways from the day.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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