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    Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

    Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Dan Labbe and special guests on cleveland.com

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    Did we learn anything new about the Browns' quarterbacks on Wednesday? Jul 24, 2025
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    The Browns are back at training camp and practiced for the first time on Wednesday. It marks the real start to the team's four-man quarterback competition and it was mostly status quo during the first practice.

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the opening practice of training camp on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

    They started by talking about what they saw from the four quarterbacks, especially the two rookies.

    Then they talked about the vibes around practice. The Browns are promising a more physical, competitive camp and they discussed if they are already seeing signs.

    They also touch on Quinshon Judkins and what Kevin Stefanski did -- or didn't say -- about the rookie running back.

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    Reasons to get excited for Browns training camp this summer Jul 22, 2025
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    The Browns practice for the first time on Wednesday as they open their training camp and they are flying under the radar in a way they haven't the past few years.

    It's fair to say, in fact, maybe people aren't super excited about this camp.

    So what should they get excited about?

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into some things fans can get excited about on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

    They discuss the four-way quarterback competition, the new-look defensive line and moving past Deshaun Watson.

    They even spend a little time recapping their brief summer breaks.

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    What's next for the Browns and Quinshon Judkins + Will they get a real QB evaluation this season? Jul 21, 2025
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    The Browns are opening training camp this week, but first they are dealing with Quinshon Judkins' arrest.

    Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the latest regarding the team's rookie running back and what to expect with camp opening.

    Then they turn their attention to the four-way quarterback competition that is really getting underway this week. Does anyone have the leg up as camp kicks off? Have they created a scenario where it's going to be too difficult to get a real evaluation on any of the young quarterbacks?

    They also talk about draft positioning and how it impacts roster decisions.

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    How can Shedeur Sanders win the Browns starting job? Jul 18, 2025
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    The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job.

    Fifth-round pick Shedeur Sanders seems like a long shot to start Week 1, but is there a scenario where it could happen? What would it ultimately look like?

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job.

    Today they discuss Sanders and where he needs to catch up and make an NFL comp for the young signal-caller that would be ideal for the Browns if he reached that level.

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    How can Dillon Gabriel win the Browns starting job? Jul 16, 2025
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    The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job. Dillon Gabriel was a surprise third-round pick by the Browns, but his selection indicates they believe in him and have high hopes for him to compete. Will he prove them right? Will his size be an issue? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue our series going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job. Today they discuss Gabriel and why it's not the longest shot on the roster for him to win the job. Follow us:

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    How can Kenny Pickett win the Browns starting job? Jul 14, 2025
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    The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job.

    Kenny Pickett is a former first-round pick and he represented the first move the Browns made this offseason, acquiring from the Eagles in a trade.

    Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue our series going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job.

    Today they discuss Pickett and if he can live up to what the Steelers thought he could be when they selected him in 2022.

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    How can Joe Flacco win the Browns starting job? Jul 11, 2025
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    The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job.

    Joe Flacco saved the Browns' season in 2023 and is back in 2025. What does he need to do to win the job? What will it look like if he does? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job.

    Today they discuss Flacco and why it might make the most sense to start the season with him as the top signal-caller.

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    Which non-QB prospects should Browns fans know in the 2026 NFL Draft? Jul 09, 2025
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    We're still talking NFL Draft on this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe move away from the quarterbacks and look at other players Browns fans should get to know with two first-round picks next year.

    They discuss a transitioning offensive line before the conversation shifts to wide receivers.

    They also explore defensive prospects, including Ohio State's Caleb Downs,

    The episode concludes with a lightning round of quick prospect names.

    Highlights:

    • Spencer Fano from Utah is a standout offensive line prospect.
    • Caleb Downs is a top safety prospect with great ball skills.
    • Nyck Harbor is an athletic receiver with immense potential.
    • The Browns may need to focus on offensive line depth in the draft.
    • Harold Perkins is a versatile linebacker with playmaking ability.

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    Which quarterbacks do Browns fans need to know in the 2026 NFL Draft? Jul 07, 2025
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    We're starting draft prep on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dig into the upcoming NFL draft, focusing first on the quarterback prospects for the 2026 class.

    They discuss various players, including LaNorris Sellers, Garrett Nussmeier, Cade Klubnik and others.

    The conversation highlights the importance of physical tools, production, and the ability to perform under pressure, as well as the evolving landscape of college football and its influence on draft prospects.

    They discuss Drew Allar, a local talent, and his performance at Penn State, as well as emerging quarterbacks like John Mateer, Fernando Mendoza and Haynes King.

    Takeaways

    • LaNorris Sellers is a unique prospect with impressive physical tools.
    • Cade Klubnik's performance improved significantly after he started running more.
    • The 2026 class is loaded with talent.
    • Drew Allar has the physical tools but needs to improve decision-making.
    • Top NFL Draft 2026 Quarterback Prospects Unveiled

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    Is talent more important than scheme? + Jim Schwartz's philosophies Jul 02, 2025
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    In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland delve into various aspects of football strategy, focusing mostly on the defensive side of the ball.

    They start by discussing the importance of choosing between the best available talent versus scheme fit during the draft, Jim Schwartz's defensive philosophy group-by-group, the roles of defensive linemen, linebackers and cornerbacks.

    They wrap up by discussing the significance of special teams, even talking a little about long snappers.

    Takeaways

    • You win with players, not schemes.
    • Defensive linemen create madness in the backfield.
    • Linebackers are “covering kicks.”
    • Pressure is more important than sacks.
    • Safeties tell the truth in coverage.
    • You lose games with blocked punts.
    • Special teams operations must be elite.
    • Long snappers are specialized roles.

    Chapters

    0:00 Drafting Strategies: Talent vs. Scheme Fit

    4:51 Understanding Jim Schwartz's Defensive Philosophy

    10:11 Linebackers and Their Role in Schwartz's Defense

    15:10 Cornerbacks and Safety Deployment in Coverage

    20:04 Defensive Fronts: 4-3 vs. 3-4 and Long Snapper Insights

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