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    Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

    Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Dan Labbe and special guests on cleveland.com

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    Shedeur Sanders' opportunity and Joe Flacco's momentum in Browns' QB competition Aug 07, 2025
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    The Browns are in Carolina and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get caught up on what happened Wednesday during a joint practice between the Browns and Panthers. Mary Kay, who is in Carolina, discusses what she saw on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

    In this episode they discuss:

    • Shedeur Sanders' start: Does Sanders' upcoming start in the preseason game against the Panthers represent a real opportunity for him to shake up the quarterback race or just another chance to get reps with the backups?
    • Joe Flacco's push: Flacco's growing momentum in camp, including quotes from Flacco himself about his desire to win the starting job, have them wondering if Flacco is the frontrunner at this point.
    • Practice insights: Mary Kay shares her observations from the Browns' practice in Carolina, including how the starting offense performed against the Panthers' starting defense.
    • Preseason perspective: The importance (or lack thereof) of preseason games and joint practices in evaluating players and making roster decisions.

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    Shedeur Sanders expected to start for the Browns + Mike Kaye preview the Panthers Aug 05, 2025
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    Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders is expected to start on Friday night against the Panthers, following a joint practice against them on Wednesday.

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Sanders’ potential start and what it means for the fifth-round pick moving forward.

    They talk about Sanders’ opportunity to get first-team reps for the first time and if he can disrupt this quarterback battle with a strong week.

    Then, Mike Kaye from the Charlotte Observer joins the show to tell you everything you need to know about the Panthers. What will Sanders face against the Panthers? How has Bryce Young progressed? Mike discusses it all.

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    Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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    Browns sign Tyler Huntley (but first, 15 minutes on the other quarterbacks) Aug 05, 2025
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    The Browns signed quarterback Tyler Huntley on Monday night right as Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe were recording their normal Orange and Brown Talk podcast training camp recap pod.

    The first 15(ish) minutes of the podcast is spent resetting the quarterback competition as the Browns head to Carolina for a joint practice on Wednesday and then their preseason opener on Friday.

    They talked some of the Browns quarterback options pre-Huntley and why it matters that Sanders came out of his arm soreness Saturday OK and it didn't seem like Dillon Gabriel was super limited on Monday.

    Then the Browns signed Huntley. Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan reacted in real time.

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    Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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    Shedeur Sanders reports arm soreness and the Browns' QB battle starts to take shape Aug 02, 2025
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    In this episode, the Orange and Brown Talk team of Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by talking about the arm soreness that kept rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders out of team drills on Saturday.

    They discuss how Sanders' arm issue prevented him from participating in team drills and if it's a concern moving forward.

    They also explore Kenny Pickett's frustration with his hamstring injury, which prevents him from utilizing his mobility, a key differentiator in the quarterback battle.

    The conversation shifts to Joe Flacco, who seems to be gaining momentum in the competition. With injuries affecting the other quarterbacks, Flacco's experience and familiarity with the system position him as a comfortable choice for the coaching staff, especially with tough early-season matchups looming.

    The podcast also touches on Dillon Gabriel's performance, noting that he hasn't seized the opportunity to build momentum. Ultimately, the episode emphasizes that with the preseason games and joint practices against Carolina and Philadelphia approaching, time is running out for the quarterbacks to make their case for the starting role.

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    Hear Mary Kay Cabot's speech accepting the Bill Nunn award at Pro Football Hall of Fame Gold Jacket dinner Aug 02, 2025
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    Mary Kay Cabot is a Hall of Famer.

    She accepted the Bill Nunn award on Friday night at the Gold Jacket Dinner in Canton.

    On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, listen to her entire acceptance speech.

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    Browns training camp gets physical on Wednesday Jul 30, 2025
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    On Wednesday's training camp recap edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labby, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock start by focusing on the increased physicality of camp before moving on to the quarterback competition before they discuss the impact of Martin Emerson Jr.'s season-ending injury.

    Topics include:

    Live Tackling: For the first time under Kevin Stefanski, the Browns engaged in live tackling during practice.

    Quarterback Competition:

    • ShedeurSanders got reps against the first-team defense.
    • Dillon Gabriel is getting more opportunities but is showing inconsistencies.
    • It's starting to look like Joe Flacco's team.

    Martin Emerson Jr.'s Injury: This creates an opportunity for Greg Newsome II.

    Denzel Ward: Ward had a standout practice. If Ward stays healthy, he could be in contention for Defensive Player of the Year.

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    Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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    Browns lose Martin Emerson Jr. + the Haslams hold their annual press conference Jul 29, 2025
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    On Tuesday’s episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by discussing the devastating Achilles injury suffered by cornerback Martin Emerson Jr. during practice. They share their personal feelings about Emerson and experiences with his dedication, positive attitude and the unfortunate timing of the injury as he enters a contract year.

    They also discuss the impact on the team's cornerback depth, potential replacements like Greg Newsome II, and how defensive strategies might have to shift.

    Then they discuss what Dee and Jimmy Haslam's said on Tuesday.

    They start by addressing how the Haslams addressed Quinshon Judkins' domestic violence case and the team's approach to addressing such issues.

    They also talked about Jimmy Haslam's response to the narrative that he influenced the drafting of Shedeur Sanders, emphasizing the team's evaluation of rookie quarterbacks and the long-term outlook for the position.

    The podcast concludes with a debate about the Haslams' messaging regarding a potential rebuild, balancing realistic expectations with the need to maintain a winning culture and fan morale.

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    Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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    How Kenny Pickett's injury will impact the Browns quarterback competition Jul 28, 2025
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    The Browns quarterback battle took a major turn this weekend. Kenny Pickett's hamstring injury threw a wrench into the competition, potentially opening the door for Joe Flacco to seize the starting role and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about it on their Day 5 training camp recap podcast.

    On Monday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast they discussed:

    • The impact of Pickett's injury and the uncertainty surrounding his return.
    • How Flacco can capitalize on the increased first-team reps.
    • Whether Shedeur Sanders will get a chance to shine with the first team.
    • Standout players from today's practice, including Diontae Johnson and Carson Schwesinger. (plus, hear about Ashley's feature on Schwesinger.)

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    Is it time for the Browns to whittle down their QB competition? Jul 26, 2025
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    In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into the ongoing quarterback competition for the Browns and whether it's time to narrow down the contenders.

    They discuss the potential of both rookie quarterbacks, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel, alongside Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett and debate whether the team should focus primarily on Flacco and Pickett as the frontrunners for the starting position.

    They also highlight the apparent maturity displayed by Shedeur Sanders, who is adapting well to the competition and what they've seen from him as a teammate and a person.

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    How will the Browns proceed with Quinshon Judkins? + The QB competition continues Jul 25, 2025
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    Browns GM Andrew Berry addressed the arrest of Quinshon Judkins and Shedeur Sanders’ speeding tickets for the first time on Thursday at Browns training camp. Berry held his annual training camp press conference on Day 2 of camp.

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe addressed what Berry said, starting with how he handled questions about Judkins and his arrest and ongoing legal case. They talked about whether the Browns could actually consider not bringing Judkins to camp or parting ways with the running back.

    Then they talked about Sanders’ speeding issues and what Berry had to say to the rookie quarterback as well as how Sanders might handle things on Friday when he talks to the media.

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