Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

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What was the thinking behind the Browns' trade down? Apr 25, 2025

Show notes

The Browns traded out of the No. 2 overall pick on Thursday night and selected Michigan's Mason Graham at No. 5, acquiring extra picks, including the No. 36 pick this year and a first-round pick next year.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the Browns' opening round and tried to frame their decision to pass on Travis Hunter and trade down from Graham.

They talk about the decision and what they think GM Andrew Berry's vision is with this trade.

Then they look ahead to Friday and discuss what they think the Browns should do when they go on the clock.

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Who will win the QB job? + Denzel Ward's growth and Browns options at No. 2 Apr 24, 2025

Show notes

The Browns re-introduced Joe Flacco during a press conference on Wednesday, a day after the Browns offseason program began. Flacco will be part of a quarterback battle that includes Kenny Pickett and potentially a rookie.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the coming quarterback battle and if Flacco starting at quarterback is a given.

They also talk about the maturation of Denzel Ward and the leadership role he's taken on as he has become a veteran on the team.

Then they wrap up by talking about Thursday's first round of the NFL Draft and the Browns' options at No. 2 overall and what they might do on Friday if they start the second round choosing between Shedeur Sanders and Jalen Milroe.

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Should the Browns trade the No. 2 overall pick? Apr 22, 2025

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The rumors keep flying with draft day getting closer and the Browns are front-and-center with the No. 2 overall pick, especially after the Titans made it known they plan on making their pick at No. 1.

A report on ESPN stated the Browns and Giants, who pick third, are getting calls for their picks and they aren't slamming down their phones, but does it mean either team would actually trade the pick?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked through the possibility of trading the No. 2 overall pick on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and if they think it's something the Browns would actually do.

They also talk about the No. 33 overall pick to start the night on Friday night and what the Browns could do with that pick.

They wrap up the podcast by addressing linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah reporting for the first day of the team's voluntary offseason program on Tuesday and his future.

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Will the 2025 NFL Draft be transformational for the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay! Apr 21, 2025

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Stop us if you've heard this before: this NFL Draft is super important for the Browns.

Still, it is really important for the Browns, a team coming out of a failed attempt to go all-in and win a Super Bowl and trying to remake their roster on the fly. They hold five picks in the first 104 and four picks on the first two days of the draft, including Nos. 2 and 33 overall.

Will this be a transformative draft? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address that on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also talk about how the Browns will use Travis Hunter, how aggressive they should be in pursuing Jalen Milroe and how big of a priority replenishing the offensive line.

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NFL Draft defensive line preview + players the Browns have to take and a 7-round mock draft Apr 18, 2025

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The Browns go on the clock in less than a week and currently hold 10 picks, representing an opportunity to infuse much-needed young talent on the roster.

Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland join Dan Labbe for their final draft preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Their focus in this podcast is the defensive line and they start by letting Lance make his case for a guy that he likes at No. 2 overall.

Then they go through their favorite edge rushers and defensive tackles before they each make a case for a player they believe the Browns should take.

They wrap up the podcast with a 7-round Browns-only mock draft and then peek ahead to future drafts with players they've noticed while watching this year's prospects.

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Should the Browns bet on Jalen Milroe? + How they view Travis Hunter Apr 18, 2025

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Browns GM Andrew Berry held his predraft media availability on Thursday and he spoke about Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe in glowing terms. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start recapping their reaction to Berry's pre-draft availability on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also discuss what Berry had to say about likely No. 2 overall pick Travis Hunter and how the Browns plan to use him. Did anything change about their thoughts on what the Browns will do at No. 2? Could they consider trading out of the pick?

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Is it better for the Browns to miss taking a quarterback or miss by passing on one? Apr 16, 2025

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The Browns' decision at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft is starting to become clear and it's starting to look like it won't be a quarterback. This begs the question about what's the worse outcome: taking a swing at quarterback and missing or not taking a swing and having that quarterback succeed elsewhere?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing that question. Which would be a worse outcome for the Browns when they do turn in that card on Thursday night of the draft?

Then they take a peek at the second and third rounds of the draft and discuss the positions they would prioritize on Day 2 as a "must-fix" position.

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Will Travis Hunter succeed as a 2-way player and how will the Browns use him? Apr 15, 2025

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All the buzz around the Browns and No. 2 overall pick is centering on Travis Hunter, bringing up an interesting wrinkle with the Giants, who hold the No. 3 overall pick, scheduling a last-minute private workout with Shedeur Sanders, who has also been linked to the Browns throughout the draft process.

What does that workout tell us? Is it more confirmation that the Browns are passing on Sanders in favor of Hunter?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the top of the draft and some of the latest developments on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

After they talk about the Giants workout with Sanders, they dive into Hunter playing two ways in the NFL. How do they think the Browns will use him? Do they think he can hold up playing both positions for a large number of snaps?

They also talk about trading down and building through the trenches and touch on Abdul Carter, who hasn't been in the discussion much lately for the No. 2 overall pick.

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Why would the Browns pass on Shedeur Sanders? Hey, Mary Kay! Apr 14, 2025

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The NFL Draft is less than two weeks away and Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are starting to have second thoughts about the direction the Browns might go with the No. 2 overall pick.

They start there on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Doesn't taking Shedeur Sanders make sense? That's the first question they answer and they discuss the dots they're connecting in starting to lean towards the Browns not taking Sanders at No. 2 overall and what it could mean for the second tier of draft prospects.

If they do pass on Sanders, what direction could they go at the position? Could they acknowledge that maybe this draft won't produce their future franchise quarterback? Doesn't it make sense to just take the best player available and would it by the front office and coaching staff some time?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer those questions and more on Monday's podcast.

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Emergency Podcast: Joe Flacco is back: What his signing means for the Browns Apr 11, 2025

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Joe Flacco is back with the Browns, signing a one-year deal on Friday and reuniting with Kevin Stefanski and Co. after the magical run they had together in 2023, when he helped them reach the playoffs.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe had to get together for an emergency podcast on Friday to discuss Flacco's signing and what it means for the Browns.

Does adding Flacco change their draft strategy at all? What does it tell us about the offense with Kevin Stefanski taking more control? What are our expectations for Flacco now that he's back with the Browns?

Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan go over all the aspects of Flacco coming back to Cleveland.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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