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    176: With Home Equity at an All-Time High, Will Homeowners “Lock-In” Even More? w/Molly Boesel Jan 08, 2024
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    Home equity just hit an all-time high for Americans. And while this is great for homeowners, what effects could this have on the housing market? Will house hoarding become a new trend as homeowners “lock in” with their rock-bottom mortgage rates? Will those who are equity-rich take their profits and move to cheaper markets, causing prices to skyrocket as they bid higher than local buyers can? Molly Boesel, Principal Economist at CoreLogic, is on to answer these questions and more!

    CoreLogic’s latest Homeowner Equity Insights report has a clear takeaway: Americans are equity rich—really equity rich. On average, American homeowners have hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting in home equity, with some of the priciest housing markets having millions! This is causing a new type of investor, the “accidental investor,” that could keep housing supply locked up.

    Molly gives her take on why so many homeowners are refusing to sell, whether or not mortgage rates will fall substantially next year, when refinancing will finally start to rise again, and if foreclosure risk is even a relevant worry in today’s rock-solid economy.

    In This Episode We Cover:

    Latest homeowner equity numbers that put owners and sellers in an even better position

    The most and least home-equity-rich housing markets in America

    Foreclosure risk and how “negative equity” completely flipped since the Great Recession

    The rise of “accidental investors” who are keeping more housing supply to themselves

    Molly’s strong mortgage rate prediction and where she thinks rates will be by the end of this year

    Whether or not equity could explode once again as buyers get back into the market

    And So Much More!

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    Home Equity: What It Is, How To Calculate, & How To Use It

    Nearly Half of U.S. Mortgaged Homes Are Considered ‘Equity-Rich’ According to Report

    CoreLogic’s Latest “Homeowner Equity Insights” Report

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    175: Our Lopsided Housing Supply: Why Builders Are Barely Making a Dent w/Mark Zandi Jan 04, 2024
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    The housing market has two big problems: home prices and a lack of supply. With so few homes on the market, buyers have barely anything to choose from, and sellers remain in control. But how did we get to this point? Back in 2008, there were too many homes on the market, and we all know what happened to home prices. So how did we go from being oversupplied to undersupplied by MILLIONS of housing units so quickly? The answer is pretty simple.

    Mark Zandi, Chief Economist at Moody’s Analytics, joins us again to give his take on the 2024 economy, the housing market, home prices, and our massive underbuilding problem. The last time Mark was on the show, he explained the “slowcession” that could have taken place in 2023. Instead, a roaring economy took off with low unemployment, high consumer spending, and real wealth increases for many Americans.

    But, as we head into 2024, there are still a couple of BIG problems: little-to-no housing supply and a polarizing presidential election of epic proportions. Both of these will have big impacts on the economy, and if you want to know what could be coming next, don’t miss this episode!

    In This Episode We Cover:

    The “rip-roaring” labor market and why unemployment has stayed so low

    Why middle and high-income households are thriving while low-income households are struggling even more

    The Fed’s recent rate pause and whether it was the right move for them to make

    The 2024 election and the huge effects it could have on the economy

    Our lopsided housing supply and why we’ve been building the wrong real estate for too long

    Marks’ 2024 home price predictions and why weak/flat pricing could be in our future

    And So Much More!

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    174: Zillow and Redfin Top Economists Give Their 2024 Housing Market Predictions Jan 03, 2024
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    With doomsday headlines and lagging consumer confidence, how should you proceed in 2024? Time to get the advice of TWO senior economists! BiggerPockets’ Dave Meyer talks with ZILLOW’s Orphe Divounguy and REDFIN’s Chen Zhao to demystify the latest US economic indicators and provide you with strategies to thrive in this year’s housing market.

    We’ll get into home prices, the incoming “affordability correction,” mortgage rate forecasts, and why next year could be significantly better for buyers. But that’s not all. Both Chen and Orphe share their outlook for the 2024 economy, the state of the American consumer, and what could happen as student loans kick back in, credit card delinquencies increase, and cash reserves run dry.

    Finally, we’ll end things with Chen and Orphe’s list of real estate markets to watch and the pricey areas that may see a revitalized post-pandemic boom. If you want to know what to expect, where to invest, and if the hot housing market will return in 2024, stick around!

    In This Episode We Cover:

    Redfin and Zillow’s 2024 housing market predictions

    The “weakening” American consumer and what this means for homebuying

    2024 mortgage rates, “disinflation,” and where we could end up next December

    The “affordability correction” that could help home buyers get their first house

    Riskiest real estate markets in America that could see HUGE price cuts

    Affordable markets to watch that have had rock-solid home prices

    And So Much More!

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    On The Market 151 with Chen

    On The Market 150 Orphe (Ep. 1)

    On The Market Orphe (Ep. 2)

    2024 Housing Market Predictions: Home Prices, Interest Rates, & Opportunities

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    173: Do College Football Towns Make the BEST Real Estate Investing Markets? Jan 01, 2024
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    What makes a good real estate market? A stable or growing population, large employers nearby, tourism, and, as a bonus, college-educated residents. Put those all together, and you’ve just stumbled upon your next great real estate investing area: college football towns! After digging into the data, the On the Market panel discovered that many top college football markets aren’t just great for partying and tailgating; they’re also undeniably promising property markets!

    On today’s episode, Dave, Henry, James, and Kathy will uncover four of the BEST college football markets in the nation and share which ones they personally would invest in. Looking for cash flow? We’ve got a couple of markets. What about long-term appreciation? We have those, too! We even have one STRONG college football market that has seen prices drop off over the past two years, with HUGE potential for rising prices in the near future.

    If you’ve been waiting to buy your first or next rental property but don’t know where to invest and which metrics to watch, this is THE episode to listen to. The On the Market panel will explain exactly how they analyze each market, which ones make sense for which investor, and why you’ll want to score a deal in these cities before it’s too late!

    In This Episode We Cover:

    The four best real estate markets for cash flow, appreciation, and football

    One expensive market with amazing house flipping profits and NO income tax

    The boomtown market that's seeing BIG price drops but has massive appreciation potential

    Two cash flow real estate markets with low home prices and strong populations

    The metrics expert investors look at before they invest in ANY real estate market

    And So Much More!

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    172: The “Rolling Recession” Has a New Target in 2024 w/Liz Ann Sonders Dec 28, 2023
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    Americans have been waiting for a recession to kick in for the past year. With consumer sentiment down and debt piling up, it’s understandable why so many feel like the worst is yet to come. But what if the “hard landing” everyone was so afraid of already happened without us even noticing it? Could a “rolling recession” be why the economy never crashed at once? We’ve got Liz Ann Sonders, Charles Schwab’s Chief Investment Strategist, on the show to explain.

    In a new report, Liz Ann touches on the one industry that could get hit hardest in 2024, what will happen if the labor market starts to break, and why we aren’t out of the woods yet for another recession. In today’s show, she’ll detail her findings and explain why SO many Americans feel now is an economically dangerous time, even while hard data points to confident consumers.

    We’ll get Liz Ann’s take on the Fed rate cuts and whether or not they’ll even happen as the Fed eagerly awaits mortgage rate hike effects to finally kick in. Plus, recession indicators to watch in 2024 and why the bond markets could be pointing to something that no one else has been able to see.

    In This Episode We Cover:

    The “rolling recession” and why a “hard landing” may have already hit

    One industry that could get hit HARD in 2024 if the labor market starts to weaken

    Why we haven’t felt the full effect of the Fed’s rate hikes yet

    Fed rate cut predictions and how long the Fed could continue to hold high rates

    Recession indicators and what the bond market tells you that no one else is talking about

    And So Much More!

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    171: Are the “Best Places to Live” in the US Worth Investing In? Dec 25, 2023
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    Where are the BEST places to live in the US? Well, U.S. News & World Report just released their annual list to show which cities are worth picking up and moving to. Some of these cities are investor favorites, while others are rarely discussed within the real estate investing community. If these cities truly are some of the best places to live in the country, wouldn’t having property in such desirable markets lead to big investing profits?

    Henry, James, and Kathy go over the top cities on the list, talking about which are worth investing in, which aren’t, cash flow vs. appreciation potential, and where they’d comfortably park their dollars in properties. And even though Dave is away on his honeymoon, we’re still bringing you LOTS of data, statistics, and trends to watch so YOU can get in on some of the top cities before investing masses know about them.

    And, as always, thanks for joining us on On the Market. Our entire team wishes you the happiest of holiday seasons. Here’s to more deals, data, and passive income in 2024!

    In This Episode We Cover:

    The best places to live in the US and whether we’d invest in any of them

    Why this low-cost, solid rental property market took the #1 spot this year

    The south’s repeat winners that have strong employment and promising demographic trends

    The one pricey mountain city that is worth investing in IF you can afford it

    Metrics we look at before we’d invest in ANY real estate market

    And So Much More!

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    Best Places to Live in the U.S. in 2023-2024

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    170: The Hot Housing Market Returns? | Zillow’s 2024 Housing Market Predictions w/Orphe Divounguy Dec 21, 2023
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    A “reset” could be coming to the housing market in 2024. As mortgage rates fall, inventory rises, and consumer wealth begins to grow, more and more renters are in the position to buy. An economic “trifecta” could form that brings us back into a hot housing market, but will it be anything like 2021 and 2022? We’ve got Orphe Divounguy, Senior Economist at Zillow, back on the show to give Zillow’s 2024 housing market predictions and share where he’s personally looking to invest.

    2023 was an impossible year for homebuying. Rates were high, inventory was non-existent, and fears of a recession made Americans have second thoughts about buying real estate. But now, it looks like the Fed will land their so-called “soft landing” as the economy continues to slow but grow at a rate we’ve been waiting for. This is good news for housing.

    If you want to hear what Zillow thinks could come next in 2024, what will happen to housing inventory, where Americans will move, and how a presidential election could impact the property market, this is the episode to watch. Be sure to subscribe to On the Market, as Orphe will be back to discuss even more housing market predictions with Redfin’s Chen Zhao.

    In This Episode We Cover:

    Why the housing market could have a “big reset” in store for 2024

    The economic “trifecta” that could put Americans in the perfect position to buy homes

    Improving housing inventory and the BIG jumps made towards the end of 2023

    2024 headwinds to watch out for and how a presidential election could freeze investing

    Affordable markets that Americans are planning to move to in 2024

    Where Orphe is looking to buy his next investment property (watch this market!)

    And So Much More!

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    Zillow’s Senior Economist on Why You DON’T Want Mortgage Rates to Fall

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    169: New Single-Family Rental Survey: Small Investors to Take CONTROL in 2024 w/Rick Palacios Jr. Dec 18, 2023
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    For years, we’ve been hearing about how the single-family rental market is being bought up by hedge funds, iBuyers, and institutional investors. For the average investor, it seems like the corporate landlords are getting an unfair advantage—they have better data, better financing, full-time staff, and deep pockets to buy whatever and wherever they want. But a new single-family rental survey shows that the big players aren’t the ones controlling the market—it’s the little guys.

    To walk us through this massive, single-family rental survey, is Rick Palacios Jr., Director of Research at John Burns Research and Consulting. Rick’s team accomplished the seemingly impossible task of measuring activity for 270,000 single-family rental homes to see how landlords are faring in 2023 and what their plans are for 2024. And while this survey focuses on REITs (real estate investment trusts), private groups, and other larger-type buyers, it provides invaluable insights for the small-time landlord.

    Rick will walk us through rent growth (and decline) from the past year, where he believes rents will be in 2024, whether or not expenses could continue to rise, how high mortgage rates are affecting buyers, and why institutional investors are struggling in this market while mom-and-pops are buying!

    In This Episode We Cover:

    What the largest single-family rental survey says about the 2024 housing market

    Rent “normalization” and why those who aggressively projected rising rents will get hit hard

    Rising expenses, insurance costs, and whether or not it could get even worse

    Why institutional investors pulled out of the market while small-time investors thrived

    How long the “lock-in effect” could last as high mortgage rates become the new norm

    Whether or not the multifamily rent crisis could spill over into the single-family market

    And So Much More!

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    168: How to Prepare for a Recession in 2024 Dec 14, 2023
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    A recession isn’t off the table for 2024, so you’ll need to know how to prepare for a recession and profit if the economy starts to slide. If your real estate values fall, your tenants stop paying rent, or you lose your job, how will you ensure you keep your properties? Those who can survive the bad times often thrive in the good—so what should you do to prepare?

    Today, our expert panel gives four suggestions ANY investor can take to make it through a recession unscathed. All of these suggestions are being put into practice NOW by our panel of experts. They’re not complicated, and acting on even a few of them could save you tens of thousands (or an entire property) if and when a recession finally does hit.

    From cutting costs to keeping cash on hand, investing differently, and building a "backup" for buying properties, these tactics will enable you to scoop up the deals that inexperienced investors couldn’t hold onto!

    In This Episode We Cover:

    How to prepare for a recession (and profit!) in 2024

    Emergency reserves and how much you should have in the bank NOW

    Quick ways to cut costs so your business can easily survive downturns

    Accessing “backup” debt that’ll help you close on deals as banks tighten up credit

    Looking outside of real estate for returns and how the experts are diversifying

    Why you MUST keep some “liquid” assets on you during a recession

    And So Much More!

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    167: The State of Real Estate in 2024: What Will (and Won’t) Work Next Year Dec 11, 2023
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    If you want to invest in real estate in 2024, you need to prepare. This year could be a grand slam for those who know how to take advantage, but for everyone else sitting on the sidelines, don’t expect your wealth to grow. Expert investors, like the On the Market panel, are getting more aggressive than ever before as so many real estate investors give up on buying deals due to high mortgage rates, tight inventory, and a shaky economy. So, how do you get ahead of the masses?

    In today’s show, we’ll share expert tactics ANYONE can use to invest in real estate in 2024. Some of these tactics come from our panel, but many can be found in Dave’s newest 2024 State of Real Estate Investing Report. This report includes even more data, tactics, strategies, and research you won’t hear on today’s show. And it’s completely free (head to BiggerPockets.com/Report24 or click here to download it!)

    We’ve got tactics for flippers, traditional landlords, passive investors, and those still searching for cash flow in this high-rate world. Wherever you’re at in the investing cycle, whether you’re a beginner or a real estate veteran, these tactics could help you build wealth no matter what happens to the economy.

    In This Episode We Cover:

    Expert tactics from the 2024 State of Real Estate Investing Report

    Affordability trends and the properties that’ll attract the most renters

    Buying new vs. existing homes and which has better profit potential

    Value-add risks and why those willing to take them could make serious profits

    The passive investing strategy top investors are using to make mailbox money

    How to make your current portfolio even more profitable WITHOUT buying more properties

    And So Much More!

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    2024 Housing Market Predictions: Home Prices, Interest Rates, & Opportunities

    “We’re Going to See a LOT of Deals” in 2024, Says Top Multifamily Lender


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