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**Not For Everyone**

Not for Everyone is a podcast hosted by a hater (Caroline Winkler) and a lover (Jess DeBakey). We’re just two sweet kooks getting carried away being ourselves, waxing poetic on every topic we care too much about. Come for the humor, stay for the honesty. We know we’re not for everyone, but we bet we are for you.
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170. We’re Taking A Break. Apr 23, 2026

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Today, an open and honest conversation between Jess and Caroline.

(James Blunt’s song, “Goodbye My Lover,” is featured in The Office, Season 3, Episode 10, "A Benihana Christmas.")

169. Our Current Content Diet | Books, Bravo, and Brain Rot Apr 16, 2026

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This episode is sponsored by Betterhelp. When life feels overwhelming, therapy can help. Sign up and get 10% off at BetterHelp.com/notforeveryone.

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Hey! Hi! Today a passing comment about pediatricians leads to a wide-ranging discussion about the things we read, watch, and obsess over. Jess and Caroline explore an assortment of interests, including the evolving experience of childhood and their personal relationships to learning. Then they go deep on such admittedly shallow fare as The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Traitors, and Temptation Island. Would you ever go on a reality TV show?

This episode was produced by Kasia Houlihan. (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cargocollective.com/kasiahoulihan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)

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DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!

168. Is This the Most Confusing Breakup Ever? + The Paradox of Spontaneity Apr 09, 2026

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This episode is sponsored by Factor. Head to Factormeals.com/NOTFOREVERYONE50OFF and use code notforeveryone50off to get 50% off and free daily greens per box, with new subscription only, while supplies last until 9/27/2026. See website for more details.

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Hi boos! Today Jess and Caroline counsel a Kook University student who is looking for guidance on a recent breakup that went, possibly, too well. These fellow eighth year undergrads share the tough, and often confusing, lesson that two people can love each other deeply but still not be meant to stay together. Jess recommends a John Mayer tune about the feelings that persist after a split, while Caroline offers a hot take on guys who sing romantic ballads.

A second whatado comes from a listener who struggles with last-minute plans. This leads to a discussion about spontaneity and the distinction between preferences and needs. The value of discomfort is also mentioned. Then Caroline launches a groundbreaking scientific study about stretchy pants!

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167. These Dating Dilemmas Made Us Feel Old (But You’re Probably Overthinking It) Apr 02, 2026

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Hello! Hello! Welcome back to the “girl science” lab. Today’s first experiment, i.e. whatado, involves a cat, a crush, and the tough questions that come up when confronting loss. Jess sorts through her own full-body hater reaction, while Caroline explains how the whole world would be better if we all could just express what we’re feeling – good, bad, and everything in between.

Then these two scientists catch up on their Taylor Frankie Paul research, which leads to a discussion about the court of public opinion and jury duty. Group therapy dynamics are unpacked too, before a second whatado about “fighting chemistry” leads Caroline and Jess to compare notes on the gender-specific conflict styles in their own relationships.

This episode was produced by Kasia Houlihan. (⁠⁠⁠⁠cargocollective.com/kasiahoulihan⁠⁠⁠⁠)

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166. Office Crushes, Toxic Jobs, and the Taylor Frankie Paul of It All Mar 26, 2026

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Welcome back to class, babies! Your favorite professors have two whatados on the syllabus today, so take notes! First up, a Kook University student wonders if fantasizing about someone other than your beloved is on the spectrum of normal. In response, Jess and Caroline explore the life-giving force of mutual attraction and the purity of orgasms.

Another pupil seeks out guidance on how to deal with the stark hierarchy and competition inherent to her job in the entertainment industry. Naturally, Caroline has a lot to say based on her own experience as an actor, and she definitely does not mince words. Then Jess shares tips from her own playbook on climbing the corporate ladder, all before weighing in on some major breaking news.

This episode was produced by Kasia Houlihan. (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cargocollective.com/kasiahoulihan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)

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165. Friends Who Never Host, Overbearing Parents, and Miley Cyrus | WHATADO Mar 19, 2026

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Welcome babies and gentlemen! Your esteemed scientists test out some new theories and theorems this week as they tackle two whatados (and the legit challenge of reading aloud). First up, a potluck predicament in South Africa leads to a discussion about social faux pas and the potential cost of speaking up, even when it just isn’t fair.

Then a question from a 24 year-old prompts Jess and Caroline to reflect on their evolving relationships with their own parents. They get into the inevitable growing pains that come with young adulthood and share a masterful response to unsolicited advice. Jess also introduces us to one of her many accents, and then these two kooks agree to disagree on the male falsetto.

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164. Is This Annoying, or Is It Just Me? | Your Petty Complaints Mar 12, 2026

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Hi kooks! The lab coats are off this week as your two trusted scientists take a break from hard core advice-giving and dive into some silliness (with substance, of course). They kick things off with an Am I the Hater? submission from a listener whose dad is competing with her. Jess and Caroline both agree that it’s a weird dynamic, but they suggest different approaches to dealing with it.

Next up is a pet peeve about making conversation, followed by a spicy hot take on corporate speak. Then they close things out with a whatado about a stinky coworker, which calls up memories from Jess’s first job and Caroline’s coding school orientation. Send in more questions – the stupider the better!

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163. Let’s Talk About PDA (To Smooch or Not to Smooch) Mar 05, 2026

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Have no fear, your favorite amateur scientists are here! Today’s lab experiment, aka whatado, is from a listener who is struggling to accept her husband’s public displays of affection towards her. Both Caroline and Jess draw from their relationship histories as they discuss the value of getting your unwanted feelings out in the open. They also explore their personal PDA preferences, along with the significance of examples they saw both at home and in pop culture in shaping them.

A happy announcement about Prince Abi leads to a discussion of parenting styles and the mind-bending experience of witnessing your friends become parents. And then Caroline tries to convince Jess to foster a dog before wondering if her co-host might not be up to the task!

This episode was produced by Kasia Houlihan. (⁠⁠⁠⁠cargocollective.com/kasiahoulihan⁠⁠⁠⁠)

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162. POV: Your Boyfriend Is Insecure As Heck Feb 26, 2026

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Welcome back to Kook University! Your two favorite professors kick off this week’s episode with a whatado from a mountain climber who asks about negotiating a balance between pursuing her personal fitness goals and her partner’s hurt feelings. Caroline and Jess get pretty fired up as they advise the listener to prioritize her needs. Then they give her boyfriend a stern talking to about gender role expectations and competition within relationships.

Talk of gender swaps leads to a sleepover movie rec from Jess, who also reports glowing reviews for her “I have a complaint” hat. Then these two explore the romance of climbing gyms, a fraught relationship to workout gear, and the intricacies of Genius Couple Time, all before envisioning their old lady selves. Belay on!

This episode was produced by Kasia Houlihan. (⁠⁠⁠cargocollective.com/kasiahoulihan⁠⁠⁠)

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161. The Subtle Competition of Adult Friendship Feb 19, 2026

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Babies, your dear scientists send their loveliest regards as they address a whatado about friend group dynamics when big life choices like buying a house enter the chat. Caroline draws on lessons from group therapy, while Jess gets vulnerable about her habit of making quick assumptions about others.

Then these two share a major update on Caroline’s dumb phone experiment, along with an ingenious hack for keeping your phone out of your sweaty paws. Other topics of conversation include coffee table books, timelessness, and an extra spicy complaint from your beloved hater.

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