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    Next Level Pros

    Welcome to Next Level Pros, where we explore the journeys of some of the most successful and inspiring entrepreneurs from around the world. I’m your host, Chris Lee.
    Throughout my career, I’ve founded multiple nine-figure companies and learned a thing or two about what it takes to succeed in the world of business. Now, I want to share those lessons with you by bringing on guests who have their own incredible stories to tell. I’m on a mission to find the most unique and entertaining individuals that have done it the right way.

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    #136: Title: "I've spent over $1M on my education" - My Advice to the Youth - Chris Lee Unplugged Jan 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! In this special episode, the roles are reversed! Today, Cameron interviews Chris Lee, a successful entrepreneur, family man, and host of the Next Level Pros podcast. Chris shares his extensive entrepreneurial journey, from his early days of door-to-door sales to building and scaling a multi-million dollar solar power business. He discusses the lessons he's learned from both his failures and successes, the importance of continuous learning and personal development, and his insights on the impact of AI and technology on the business landscape.

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    Highlights:

    "Go and fail as much as possible. If you're living at home, this is the perfect time to fail, right? Your safety net is pretty strong, right? You don't have to worry about food on the table. You don't have to be worrying about a roof over your head, but you can go out and you can fail."


    "Transparency is one of the biggest things that I learned from my mentor Todd at Vivint. A lot of business owners operate in the dark, meaning that they only allow a certain amount of information to go to their employees, and they treat them, probably like they're dumb."


    "For me, that's what I took from the education system, and I've been able to apply, and that's where I would say most of my success has come from, is being constantly hungry for learning."


    "You will not lose your job to AI. You will lose your job to somebody that knows how to use AI, and that person will be more and more efficient because of it."


    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Introduction

    11:13 - Lessons learned from business failures and successes

    20:50 - Transparency and culture in business

    27:07 - Advice for aspiring entrepreneurs

    34:00 - The importance of personal education and continuous learning

    44:00 - Chris Lee's views on AI and its impact on business

    48:36 - Chris Lee's political views and support for Donald Trump

    54:00 - The role of AI in education and the need for adaptation

    59:16 - The most valuable skill in public speaking and sales


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    Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281

    Spotify- https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a

    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros


    #135: "You can't master selling by reading books" Mastering Tonality Jan 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! In this episode, we have the opportunity to interview Jeremy Miner, an incredible businessman and sales training expert. Jeremy shares his journey from door-to-door sales to earning multiple seven-figure commissions, highlighting the pivotal role of tonality in his success. He also touches on the challenges of scaling a business, the importance of hiring for strengths, and the potential of a new recruiting and staffing division.


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    Highlights:

    "I think most sales people don't really understand the psychology behind how the brain actually makes decisions."


    "The biggest factor that took me from the jump between door to door to more B to B high level was mastering tonality."


    "I don't use selling as something that you do to someone. I believe it's something you do for someone."


    "Everybody has a chip, just most people don't activate it."


    Timestamps:

    00:00 - The Importance of Understanding Sales Psychology

    02:36 - Jeremy Miner's Background and Achievements

    05:29 - Scaling a Business and Management Structure

    07:49 - The Future Vision and Business Expansion

    09:41 - The Meaning Behind Seventh Level

    11:41 - Sales Opportunities and Skill Levels

    14:16 - Mastering Tonality and Sales Techniques

    18:19 - Jeremy's Sales Journey and Achievements

    23:04 - The Role of Tonality in Sales

    35:37 - Personal Motivations and Overcoming Challenges

    40:44 - The Power of Activating Personal Chips



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    Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a


    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros


    #131: 3 9-Figure Businesses in One Room? How Tommy Mello, Chris Lee, And Daryl Kelly Grew Their Businesses to Hundreds of Millions of Dollars Jan 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! In this episode, we're thrilled to have Tommy Mello, the mastermind behind the highly successful garage door service company join Chris Lee, a dynamic leader known for his innovative approaches in the fitness industry, and Daryl Kelly, who has made significant strides in the health and wellness sector. Together, they share invaluable experiences and lessons on navigating the challenges of entrepreneurship, building sustainable business models, and the importance of creating a culture of trust within their organizations. Tune in as they unfold the secrets to their success and personal growth, providing you with actionable insights to elevate your professional and personal life.


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    Highlights:

    "You're only as good as the team you build around you."


    "Entrepreneurship is about adjusting the sails when the wind changes direction."


    "Leadership means being a visionary, not just a manager of the status quo."


    "Growth is never by mere chance; it is the result of forces working together."


    Timestamps:

    0:00:00 - Introduction: Sales and Visionary Mindset

    0:06:09 - Challenges and Success in Business

    0:14:49 - Cultural and Personal Growth

    0:24:32 - Building a Strong Business Partnership

    0:32:22 - Leadership and Team Dynamics

    0:41:56 - Paradigm Shifts and Business Growth

    0:49:12 - Cultural and Operational Excellence

    0:57:24 - Adapting to Change and Overcoming Challenges

    1:05:05 - Building a Sustainable Business Model

    1:18:43 - The Importance of Health and Self-Care


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    Want access to more of my content? Click the link below for all of our latest updates and events!


    https://linktr.ee/nextlevelpros

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    Watch my latest Podcast

    Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a


    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros


    #134: Hawaii House from “The Bachelorette” Filled with 9 Figure Companies Jan 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! Today, we’re recording from the stunning Waterfall House in Hawaii, and we’re joined by Tyler McAllister. We discuss the importance of mental toughness, personal development, and creating meaningful connections. Tyler shares his insights on mentorship, entrepreneurial lessons, and the role of nature in fostering reflection and growth. This is a deep dive into resilience, discipline, and finding balance in life and business.


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    Highlights:

    "Nobody knows what I’m capable of except me and God."


    "Take one mile at a time, and you'll go farther than you think."


    "Success is about more than numbers—it’s about making life meaningful."


    "We underestimate our capacity because of the mental limitations we place on ourselves."


    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Exploring mental toughness and introducing Tyler McAllister

    02:21 - Finding clarity and focus in nature

    05:16 - Shifting priorities and lessons from reading

    07:13 - Tyler’s experiences and the impact of great leaders.

    10:00 - Overcoming arrogance and seeking help to grow

    20:01 - Building strong relationships through love and connection

    25:09 - How fitness, spirituality, and business intersect

    28:44 - Lessons from unexpected physical challenges

    35:01 - How physical activity cultivates resilience

    41:15 - Turning type 1 diabetes into a source of discipline


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    Want access to more of my content? Click the link below for all of our latest updates and events!


    https://linktr.ee/nextlevelpros

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    Watch my latest Podcast

    Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a


    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros


    #133: Increasing 30% year over year with no marketing? Will it still work? Dec 26, 2024
    Show notes

    Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! Today, we have the pleasure of speaking with Josh Bucio and Carter Romero, the founders of Urban Oasis, a thriving landscaping and outdoor construction business based in Texas. In this episode, we dive deep into their entrepreneurial journey, the challenges they've faced, and their ambitious plans for the future.


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    Highlights:

    "Paid advertising should be your number one generator for business. Where most business owners get it wrong is they pump the brakes on this once they get too much business”


    "Mentorship and understanding marketing are key for us."


    "If we increase the price 10% we're not losing 10% right? Which is perfect, like and, and that's a key thing for anybody to understand, that's watching this or listening to this, is just how valuable an additional dollar is to the business owner versus the customer."


    "Creating a strong company culture with clear values has been a big focus for us."


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Paid Advertising as a Business Generator

    02:20 Urban Oasis - Background and Growth

    05:00 Early Days - Hands-on Work and Expansion

    09:21 Deciding to Go All-In on the Business

    12:06 Current Team Size and Challenges

    15:48 5-Year Vision and Growth Plans

    21:11 Marketing Quadrants and Strategies

    25:00 Importance of Paid Advertising

    32:23 Pricing Strategy and Profit Margins

    38:46 Scaling Considerations and Overhead

    47:39 Integrating Sales and Marketing

    57:19 Lessons Learned from Next Level Pros

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    Watch my latest Podcast

    Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a

    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros



    #132: Building Dubai Since 1991 - Adel Sajan Dec 06, 2024
    Show notes

    Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! In this episode, we're thrilled to welcome Adel Sajan, an influential figure hailing from Dubai, where his family’s remarkable journey from humble beginnings to top real estate developers is nothing short of inspiring. Adel shares his unique experiences, from dramatic historical events impacting his family to his innovative approaches in business that have significantly shaped Dubai's skyline. Whether discussing the strategic shifts in his family business or exploring his personal entrepreneurial journey, Adel's insights are invaluable. Dive in as we explore the resilience and ingenuity behind his success.


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    Highlights:

    "You gotta set yourself up for luck."


    "Resilience is key in transforming challenges into opportunities."


    "Understanding the pulse of the customer is crucial."

    "You can’t just work hard; you have to work smart."


    Timestamps:

    00:00: Adel Sajan and the start of his family's escape from Kuwait.

    05:23: Adel discusses his father’s business and their move to Dubai.

    10:51: Early struggles and the strategic decisions in Dubai during the 1990s.

    16:00: Values Adel gained from his dad and his early business experiences.

    22:23: Strategic business decisions and the creation of Danube Home.

    30:00: Adel shares his aggressive growth plans and how to achieve them.

    37:27: Transition into real estate and approaching to affordable housing.

    42:50: Luxury amenities and revolutionizing Dubai’s real estate market.

    48:20: The motivation behind continuing the business legacy.

    53:04: Adel’s vision for the future and advice for young entrepreneurs.

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    Want access to more of my content? Click the link below for all of our latest updates and events!


    https://linktr.ee/nextlevelpros

    Want to be a guest on our show? Apply here!https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1YlkVBSluEKMTg4gehyUOHYvBratcxHV5rt3kiWTXNC4/viewform?edit_requested=true

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    Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a

    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros



    #130: How Jotform Founder & CEO Aytekin Tank Got Great at Solving One Problem Nov 18, 2024
    Show notes

    Welcome to a New Episode of Next Level Pros! In today's episode, we're thrilled to have Aytekin Tank, the mastermind behind the transformative software JotForm, which has dramatically altered the landscape of online forms. Aytekin will share his entrepreneurial journey, focusing on the pivotal role of sustained focus and compounded growth in achieving business success. He discusses the evolution of JotForm, from its inception as a simple form builder to a comprehensive suite catering to varied business needs, emphasizing automation and customer-centric development. Stay tuned as Aytekin shares the principles that kept him on track amidst the allure of new opportunities, providing invaluable insights for entrepreneurs at all stages.


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    Highlights:

    "We hit oil by digging one hole 1000 feet deep, not 1000 holes one foot deep."


    "Giving something away for free is the biggest marketing tool you can have."


    "Automate your busy work to focus on what's truly important."


    "Persistence is key; you need to learn to pivot and persevere through challenges."


    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Introduction to Aytekin Tank and the genesis of JotForm.

    02:52 - Aytekin joins the show; background and initial motivations.

    07:13 - The leap from employment to entrepreneurship.

    10:34 - Learning from side projects and the transition to full-time on JotForm.

    16:41 - The evolution from free to paid subscriptions and early challenges.

    23:15 - Expanding JotForm's functionality beyond basic forms.

    28:17 - Introduction of enterprise solutions and learning the ropes of sales.

    32:20 - Growth and scaling challenges faced over 19 years.

    35:16 - The critical importance of focus and saying no to distractions.

    41:28 - Where to find Aytekin Tank and closing remarks.

    Want me to teach you how to grow your business? Text me! 509-374-7554

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    Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a

    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros



    #129: will.i.am Unplugged: Will AI take over the world? Nov 05, 2024
    Show notes

    Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! In today’s conversation, our guest is Will.i.am—artist, tech innovator, and futurist. Will dives into a range of topics including his journey from music to technology, the future of AI governance, and his thoughts on Universal Basic Income (UBI). He shares unique insights into his creative process, the importance of collaboration, and how curiosity has driven him to pioneer in the tech space. This episode is a deep dive into what it takes to innovate fearlessly and the mindset needed to push boundaries in both art and technology.


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    Highlights:

    "Curiosity is the fuel that drives innovation; stay curious, and you'll find the answers."


    "We’re headed towards a world where companies run themselves with only a few people overseeing data."


    "You don’t need to own something to find value in it, but own your data and your identity."


    "True collaboration happens when minds gel, ideate, and challenge each other without ego."


    Timestamps:

    00:00 – The Future of AI and Business

    06:56 – Creative Thinking and Influence

    14:00 – Autonomous Vehicles

    20:20 – Universal Basic Income Debate

    26:57 – Data Ownership and Modern Society

    29:32 – Craftsmanship vs. Planned Obsolescence

    33:02 – Pioneering in Tech

    39:34 – Learning at Harvard

    47:29 – Pitching Success Stories

    50:21 – Principles for Success

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    Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a


    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros


    #128: A company that helps you automate your profits, isn’t making profit. Oct 23, 2024
    Show notes

    Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! In this episode, we're joined by Andrew Schultz, a budding entrepreneur who's navigating the challenges of turning his marketing firm, Profit Automation, into a profitable business despite its current unprofitable state. We'll dive deep into the issues holding Andrew back, including a detailed analysis of his financials and marketing strategies, along with some personal obstacles that are impacting his professional progress.


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    Highlights:

    "I mean, when you asked me what my biggest challenge was, I don't know what I'm selling."


    "Your secret sauce is identifying what the problem is around their customers in their pipeline, so you can pull them into action."


    "I will help increase your conversion, or I will add another 2% to your conversion, or you don't pay anything."


    "I haven't done a whole lot of marketing or talked to a lot of people about it, so I find it hard to believe that you have enough data to say that this doesn't work."


    Timestamps:

    0:00:00 Profit Automation is not turning a profit

    0:04:13 Describing the Business

    0:06:03 Explaining the Lead Conversion Offering

    0:08:15 Identifying the Biggest Challenge - Packaging the Offer

    0:13:25 The Pipeline Crisis and how to fix it

    0:19:21 Addressing the Perception of Free vs. Paid Offers

    0:20:24 Exploring Performance-Based Pricing Options

    0:25:47 Shifting from Scarcity to Abundance Mindset

    0:27:08 Comparing Eliminating Downside vs. Eliminating Risk

    0:41:00 Identifying Strengths and Weaknesses in the Business

    0:48:30 Refocusing on Sales and Marketing as the Priority

    0:55:47 Balancing Personality Types within the Team

    0:57:41 Shifting Mindset from Home Runs to Consistent At-Bats

    1:03:29 Overcoming the Need for Certainty

    1:11:08 Adopting a Scientific Approach to Testing and Measuring

    1:17:07 Final Plan and Closing Thoughts

    Want me to teach you how to grow your business? Text me! 509-374-7554

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    Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a

    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros



    #127: Risk the $600K in His Home or Play it Safe? Oct 15, 2024
    Show notes

    Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! Join us as we delve into a compelling discussion with Seth Shaner, who shares his candid experiences about the financial and emotional challenges of being house poor. Discover how these challenges are impacting his business operations and family dynamics. Seth, who has a rich background in the restaurant industry, opens up about his journey through business failures, relocations, and the intricate balance of financial decisions and family life. Don't miss this deep dive into the real-world consequences of living beyond one's means.


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    Highlights:

    "I always said I would never be house poor, but here I am because the house is the expensive part."

    "You can't have high society desires overcome what your income is."


    "Being in proximity to people you know can be helpful too."

    "I'm not going to go in as the president of a company this big very often."


    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Introduction

    04:15 - Seth discusses his early business failures

    08:54 - How past business experiences and financial choices impact Seth

    13:16 - Seth’s current financial strategies and his consulting work dynamics

    17:25 - Emotional and financial challenges post-divorce

    20:31 - Benefits of relocating for financial and family stability

    30:08 - Past financial disasters and their influence on present decisions

    34:43 - Seth discusses shifting focus from consulting to what he truly enjoys

    39:42 - Strategies for utilizing resources effectively in business

    50:57 - The potential impacts of moving to more affordable locations.

    55:30 - The pros and cons of staying in California versus relocating.

    01:05:22 - The impact of financial stress on mental and emotional health.

    01:15:39 - Closing thoughts

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    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a

    YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros


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