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    The New Churches podcast offers practical answers to your real ministry questions. We aren’t going to provide lofty pie-in-the-sky theories. Instead, we are going to help you in your real ministry context, with your real thoughts, questions, and issues.

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    Q and A: Church Planter Residencies Jan 27, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode 636: Residencies are crucial to multiplication in church planting, but how do you start and organize them? Host Clint Clifton discusses the practical components of residency with Noah Oldham, pastor of August Gate Church in St. Louis.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How Noah Oldham designed the August Gate church plant in St. Louis to be a multiplying church
    • How the August Gate residency is designed
    • The importance of pursuing people when you see they have potential to plant churches
    • Day-to-day practical components of a residency
    • Why residency requires a deep sense of humility
    • Why churches should maintain warm relationships with planters they send out

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Part of our vision is to be a church that plants more churches until the St. Louis Metro region is saturated with gospel. @NoahOldham

    I don’t think there’s anything that’s contributed to the fruitfulness in multiplication in church planting, like having the residency. @ClintJClifton

    We just talk about church planting all the time. Because of that, there’s always energy around it. @NoahOldham

    Residency’s like a junk drawer category; it’s never clean and buttoned up. And it just means getting people ready for ministry. @ClintJClifton

    A big part of our residency is giving somebody the opportunity to do things planters do, on top of what pastors do. @NoahOldham

    We use the imagery of peeking behind the curtain. I say, “I’d like to invite you behind the curtain, to see how things go here and be a part of what we do behind the curtain so that you could get a sense for, if this is the sort of work that you feel drawn to.” @ClintJClifton

    Equipping precedes calling. We got to be doing a lot of equipping, and usually calling grows out of the fertile soil of equipping, not the opposite. @ClintJClifton

    Covenant members are the first level of leadership in our church. And then we’re always looking for covenant members who are serving above and beyond the standard. Who’s hungry for more? Always trying to call out the called. @NoahOldham

    The number one qualification of an elder is that they aspire to the office. A lot of people don’t know they have permission to aspire to it until we give them permission. @NoahOldham

    It’s really powerful when your pastor comes to you and says he sees gifts in you and invites you into a category most people aren’t invited into. That really begins to ignite a passion for church planting. @ClintJClifton

    When you have been a pastor and a church planter, you can recognize those gifts in others and you should verbalize that. @ClintJClifton

    For us, what we do in a residency comes down to who the guy is. What does he need? @NoahOldham

    You’ve got to create your own way in training. You’re going to become familiar with a whole bunch of tools that apply to various situations. We basically have a syllabus that covers everything but, depending on the situation, we don’t always do all of it. @ClintJClifton

    The ability to lead a church plant and to lead a team comes by being in a church plant and being on a team. @NoahOldham

    It’s almost impossible too, to reproduce something you’ve never seen. @ClintJClifton

    If you have a guy with the ability to plant a church and you know it is three to five years before he needs to plant, get him on your team and call it a residency. @NoahOldham

    If planting churches is in your church’s DNA, you just can’t help but do it. @NoahOldham

    Having a residency is sort of like having a girlfriend. You can’t describe it. You’ve just got to get one and then you’ll understand. @ClintJClifton

    One of the major things I’m trying to do in residency is help somebody see themselves as they truly are. @ClintJClifton

    Cage stagers don’t make it very far in residencies. @NoahOldham

    Residency is simply discipling future church leaders. @ClintJClifton

    If you have great leaders in your church, you’re going to lose them, one way or the other. You can either prepare them and send them or you can lose them and someone else prepares them and sends them. @NoahOldham

    I want us to be the church that identifies those leaders, speaks life into them and helps them with their calling, but then also prepares them. @NoahOldham

    We’re not starting franchises here. We’re starting a family. @ClintJClifton

    Helpful Resources:

    • Free download: Church Planting Thresholds
    • Free download: Pillar Church residency syllabus
    • namb.net/residencies
    • Quick Start Guide
    • Starting a residency video
    • Find a residency
    • Send Network’s Multiplication Pipeline

    Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer

    Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes

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    Q&A: Church Planter Residencies Jan 27, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode 636: Residencies are crucial to multiplication in church planting, but how do you start and organize them? Host Clint Clifton discusses the practical components of residency with Noah Oldham, pastor of August Gate Church in St. Louis.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How Noah Oldham designed the August Gate church plant in St. Louis to be a multiplying church
    • How the August Gate residency is designed
    • The importance of pursuing people when you see they have potential to plant churches
    • Day-to-day practical components of a residency
    • Why residency requires a deep sense of humility
    • Why churches should maintain warm relationships with planters they send out

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Part of our vision is to be a church that plants more churches until the St. Louis Metro region is saturated with gospel. @NoahOldham

    I don’t think there’s anything that’s contributed to the fruitfulness in multiplication in church planting, like having the residency. @ClintJClifton

    We just talk about church planting all the time. Because of that, there’s always energy around it. @NoahOldham

    Residency’s like a junk drawer category; it’s never clean and buttoned up. And it just means getting people ready for ministry. @ClintJClifton

    A big part of our residency is giving somebody the opportunity to do things planters do, on top of what pastors do. @NoahOldham

    We use the imagery of peeking behind the curtain. I say, “I’d like to invite you behind the curtain, to see how things go here and be a part of what we do behind the curtain so that you could get a sense for, if this is the sort of work that you feel drawn to.” @ClintJClifton

    Equipping precedes calling. We got to be doing a lot of equipping, and usually calling grows out of the fertile soil of equipping, not the opposite. @ClintJClifton

    Covenant members are the first level of leadership in our church. And then we’re always looking for covenant members who are serving above and beyond the standard. Who’s hungry for more? Always trying to call out the called. @NoahOldham

    The number one qualification of an elder is that they aspire to the office. A lot of people don’t know they have permission to aspire to it until we give them permission. @NoahOldham

    It’s really powerful when your pastor comes to you and says he sees gifts in you and invites you into a category most people aren’t invited into. That really begins to ignite a passion for church planting. @ClintJClifton

    When you have been a pastor and a church planter, you can recognize those gifts in others and you should verbalize that. @ClintJClifton

    For us, what we do in a residency comes down to who the guy is. What does he need? @NoahOldham

    You’ve got to create your own way in training. You’re going to become familiar with a whole bunch of tools that apply to various situations. We basically have a syllabus that covers everything but, depending on the situation, we don’t always do all of it. @ClintJClifton

    The ability to lead a church plant and to lead a team comes by being in a church plant and being on a team. @NoahOldham

    It’s almost impossible too, to reproduce something you’ve never seen. @ClintJClifton

    If you have a guy with the ability to plant a church and you know it is three to five years before he needs to plant, get him on your team and call it a residency. @NoahOldham

    If planting churches is in your church’s DNA, you just can’t help but do it. @NoahOldham

    Having a residency is sort of like having a girlfriend. You can’t describe it. You’ve just got to get one and then you’ll understand. @ClintJClifton

    One of the major things I’m trying to do in residency is help somebody see themselves as they truly are. @ClintJClifton

    Cage stagers don’t make it very far in residencies. @NoahOldham

    Residency is simply discipling future church leaders. @ClintJClifton

    If you have great leaders in your church, you’re going to lose them, one way or the other. You can either prepare them and send them or you can lose them and someone else prepares them and sends them. @NoahOldham

    I want us to be the church that identifies those leaders, speaks life into them and helps them with their calling, but then also prepares them. @NoahOldham

    We’re not starting franchises here. We’re starting a family. @ClintJClifton

    Helpful Resources:

    • Free download: Church Planting Thresholds
    • Free download: Pillar Church residency syllabus
    • namb.net/residencies
    • Quick Start Guide
    • Starting a residency video
    • Find a residency
    • Send Network’s Multiplication Pipeline

    Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer

    Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes


    Getting Serious About Getting Healthy Jan 25, 2022
    Show notes

    Episode 635: The physical health of a church planter directly affects his spiritual health – and both are critically intertwined with the work God has called him to do. Host Clint Clifton and Noah Oldham, NAMB’s senior director of church planting deployment, discuss their own fitness journeys and how the lack of fitness may point to deeper, unresolved spiritual issues in a person’s life.­­

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How Noah Oldham came to realize “something had to change” physically in his life
    • The first steps to take in getting a handle on your fitness
    • How a change in your physical life affects your spiritual life
    • That food, comfort and laziness can be used to hide areas of brokenness in your life.
    • How not addressing a fellow pastor’s lack of fitness can be doing him – and yourself – a disservice.
    • How lack of fitness undermines your respectability with your people
    • Why community and accountability are essential for maintaining physical fitness.
    • What to do when the people around you don’t value their physical health

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Usually when I see a friend that loses weight, or when I’ve lost weight myself, I’m very skeptical about how long it’s going to last. @ClintJClifton

    Health for a church planter, both spiritually and physically, is critically intertwined in the work we do. @ClintJClifton

    I found a personal trainer who works with pastors and he set me on a trajectory. I’ve not looked back. @NoahOldham

    Something just clicked in my soul. Something has to change, and it has to be now. It’s never going to get easier. @NoahOldham

    It’s not about changing your diet and exercise. You have to change your discipline. @NoahOldham

    It really became a labor of love – one of the ways I unplug from the rest of the stuff I’m doing, to walk in discipleship with other men, to help them find the kind of freedom I found. @NoahOldham

    In 2 Timothy, Paul says that in the last days, people will be without “self-control.” That word often is translated as “incontinent.” I realized that either I don’t care or I can’t control myself. @NoahOldham

    We need the literal, the miraculous grace of God to do a work in us, and that’s what I saw happen in my life. The grace of God trained me to say no to myself and yes to the new paths he had for me. @NoahOldham

    You’ve got to peel back some of the layers and deal with the heartache underneath this stuff. @NoahOldham

    Often the physical is just a manifestation of another area of our life that’s probably just as messy, just as sloppy, just as unmonitored. We’re monitoring so many other things that we don’t look at this one until too late. @NoahOldham

    One thing I saw was that I loved satisfaction and instantgratification more than I thought I did. @NoahOldham

    When we start talking about looking to the marketplace to raise up pastors, we’re reaching into this pool of men who may say, “He’s the kind of guy I want to be.” @NoahOldham

    We’re doing one another, as brothers, as pastors, a disservice, because if we’re both struggling with our health, we should be able to come to each other and say, “How do we do this together? How do we lock arms for one another?” @NoahOldham

    The biggest challenge is that you have to come to the point where you say, “I’m not this kind of person anymore.” @NoahOldham

    If I want to attract disciplined, ready, capable, sacrificial men, I got to show myself to be that. And there was an area of my life I wasn’t showing that. @NoahOldham

    As pastors who don’t go to the bottle when we have problems, food is a ready escape for us. @ClintJClifton

    There’s a culture that thinks people who exercise and care about their physical health is something weird people do. We think, “Everybody’s a little overweight, and that’s the way it is and it’s OK.” @ClintJClifton

    Helpful Resources:

    • Website: pastorfit.com
    • Book: Breaking the Stronghold of Food
    • Have you checked out our Church Planting Primer?
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

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    Dreaming Big on a Shoestring Budget Jan 20, 2022
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    Episode 634: Can a church-planter or team dream big on a shoestring budget? Co-hosts Clint Clifton and Todd Adkins explain why being “under-resourced” actually is a big advantage.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • Why being “under-resourced” actually is helpful for a church-planting team
    • How a “we can if …” map can help you and a team process through a problem
    • How vision clarity and focus made a difference in how churches weathered the Covid crisis
    • Why attendance isn’t engagement, and engagement isn’t discipleship
    • Which comes first: clear vision or adequate resources

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Being “under-resourced” actually is helpful because it forces conversations and choices that are really healthy, long term versus perpetuating things that are not essential. @Todd Adkins

    Being “under-resourced” causes you to boil down to essentials. @ClintJClifton

    There’s a huge lie out there that in order to be creative and innovative, I need unlimited time and unlimited resources. You actually will be much better off having finite time and finite resources. @Todd Adkins

    It’s easier and it’s more fun to attempt great things for the Lord on on a limited budget. Your resource “poverty” can actually be an advantage when it comes to growth. In our day, people are really skeptical of the big, wealthy and powerful. That gives a scrappy upstart an advantage over the well-funded franchise. @ClintJClifton

    You can actually capitalize on the advantages that have been given to you as a church planter on a shoestring budget if you will just simply own it and and live in that reality. You should not see your your “poverty” as as a disadvantage, but as an advantage. @ClintJClifton

    Clear vision always is followed by a sufficient resourcing. @ClintJClifton

    We have measured attendance and called it engagement, and measured engagement and called it discipleship. @Todd Adkins

    When we have a clear and compelling vision about what it is that we’re doing, then resources flow. If we focus on the resources and say, “Why don’t we have the resources?”, then the resources don’t necessarily come very easily. @ClintJClifton

    When we’re headed in a direction that pleases the lord and that makes sense to the people who are around us, people are happy to be generous. @ClintJClifton

    I want you to dream big even if you’re on a shoestring budget, especially if you’re planting a church. @ClintJClifton

    If you are feeling under-resourced, you’re really under-inspiring, because there are people around you who have the ability to resource you. They just aren’t sure it is a good stewardship. @ClintJClifton

    If people are serving in your church, they’re actually more likely to give – not only of their time but of their money as well. @Todd Adkins

    As people come in and begin to serve, that’s when they put more skin in the game. @Todd Adkins

    The clearer, the more compelling, the bigger your dream, the more easily donors will give to see that accomplished. If you’re lamenting the size of your budget and seeing that as the limitation to what you can do for the kingdom, you’re thinking of it backwards. @ClintJClifton

    Helpful Resources:

    • Book: A Beautiful Constraint: How to Transform Your Limitations into Advantages
    • Book: Simple Church: Returning to God’s Process for Making Disciples
    • Article: Moving from “We Can’t” to “We Can” in Ministry

    Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer”
    Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast leave a rating and review on iTunes

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    Building a Team from Scratch Jan 18, 2022
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    Episode 633: If a church planter has “parachuted” into an unfamiliar city, how can he best go about building a team from scratch? Co-hosts Clint Clifton and Todd Adkins offer a plethora of hacks that will promote success.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • Several leadership hacks helpful for “parachute”planters
    • The power of a relationship that helps others move forward in the same direction over time
    • The value of clear role descriptions for team members
    • The two values of good training
    • The four kinds of moments you want to create in team building
    • Two good reasons to get involved in the Chamber of Commerce

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    I don’t recall who said it, but it’s true: People will will follow you if you’re uncertain; they won’t follow you if you’re unclear. @ToddAdkins

    You don’t have to have it all figured out, but you at least need to have kind of a compelling vision for the future and have a place in it for each team member. @ToddAdkins

    You need to have documented clarity: role descriptions for all your volunteers. You can get a win almost immediately simply by having a one-page role description in place. @ToddAdkins

    You want to avoid the volunteer over-committing and coming back to you saying, “Hey I didn’t realize what this was.” @ToddAdkins

    Clarity builds confidence for team members. @ToddAdkins

    Good training does two things in equal parts: It gives both competence and confidence. @ToddAdkins

    You don’t want to just recruit anybody that can fog a mirror. You want to think about the type of people you want to recruit and the way you want that to happen. @ToddAdkins

    Some planters make “the big ask” in a safe, lighthearted way, and the person they ask isn’t quite sure if they’re serious. The more appropriate, more effective way is to have a serious conversation that creates a compelling moment they will not forget. @ClintJClifton

    It’s not just the volume of impressions you’re making. It’s the quality of your interactions with people that make a huge difference. @ClintJClifton

    Recruiting goes back to “seek first to understand and then be understood.” It goes back to just being insanely curious about your community. Schedule curiosity into your week. @ToddAdkins

    Far too many times, ministry is something we do to people, not for people. @ToddAdkins

    Helpful Resources:

    – Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    – Are you ready to enroll in our free Church Planting Masterclass?
    – Chip and Dan Heath books: Made to Stick and The Power of Moments
    – Web-search “questions based selling”

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating/review on iTunes

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    Starting a Residency Jan 13, 2022
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    Episode 632: Church-based residencies are a growing trend in ministerial and church planter training. Co-hosts Ed Stetzer and Dhati Lewis discuss the complexities and simplicities of such programs and offer some valuable insight on how churches both large and small can launch residency programs.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How Blueprint Church was started to be a “blueprint” for other churches planting churches
    • The wide variety of training going on under the banner of “Residencies”
    • How residents learn the complexities of disciple making so members can be given the simplicity
    • The radical approach of training every biblically qualified person in your church, then allowing God to show them their calling

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    You need to be aware of a growing trend where churches are adopting a strategy to raise up church planters from within – or sometimes they kind of become within, do a two-year residency and then go out and plant churches. @edstetzer

    At Blueprint Church, we say every covenant member is either a covocational church planter or a covocational church planting team member. @dhatilewis

    We started Blueprint Church with a desire that we were going to be a church that’s planting other churches. We wanted to be a blueprint so we knew that was going to to take place. @dhatilewis

    We didn’t necessarily have a timeline, per se, but we started doing different things and had an internship that led to an apprenticeship, and from apprentice to a residency. It was a leadership pipeline. @dhatilewis

    Oftentimes we focus in on the calling. But if you train everybody who’s biblically qualified in your church, then God is going to match up people’s call to the burden in the cry-outs of the city. @dhatilewis

    We had people living in our home for you months at a time and we would teach them how to be leaders. And we said, “You guys are our next small group leaders.” We would cast that vision with an expectation similar to Jesus’ call, “Follow me and you will become fishers of men.” @dhatilewis

    We were beginning with the end in mind. It was discipleship with a very specific and targeted destination of where we’re going. We put it up on a higher bar. @dhatilewis

    Once they became small group leaders, then they became ministry leaders, and then they became Titus to women and elders and then they become elders. In that call, we sent them out as teams to plant churches. @dhatilewis

    Let’s just train everybody and let God bring out the calling in their lives. We started having a discipleship leadership program every member and allowed God to discover how that’s going to flesh out in their lives. @dhatilewis

    Disciple making is not a ministry of the church; it’s the ministry of the church and residency is just one outgrowth of the call to discipleship.

    While most large churches have gotten very much into residencies, you don’t have to be a really large church to engage this. @edstetzer

    In residencies, there tends to be a curriculum and a series of expectations. We are seeing more churches taking on historically the role that might have been like an agency. @edstetzer

    You can plant churches and not make any disciples but, ultimately, if you make disciples you will plant churches. @dhatilewis

    This is not the Jetsons, where you can just press a button and then churches come out and disciples are made There’s a lot in this operating system. You got to own the complexity so the simplicity is given to your members. @dhatilewis

    As a volunteer, part-time pastor, I limited myself to four things: preaching, meeting with leadership, leading a small group in my home and leading our pastoral apprentice team. @edstetzer

    Helpful Resources:

    • Learn how to start a robust residency program at namb.net/residencies
    • Download the Residency Quick Start Guide
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer”
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
    • Learn more about Dhati Lewis’ book, Among Wolves: Disciple-Making in the City
    • Learn more about Ed Stetzer’s book, Viral Churches

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes

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    3 Reasons Church Plants Fail Jan 12, 2022
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    Episode 631: What three main factors cause church plants to fail? Co-Hosts Clint Clifton and Todd Adkins discuss the role of isolation, conflict among team members and lack of self-awareness in the “slow-motion car crash” of church plant failure.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How many church plants don’t make it to Year 5
    • The difference between poetry and plumbing in church planting
    • The role of isolation in church plant failure
    • Why structure and systems matter as much as story and strategy
    • Two valuable tools in putting together an effective team
    • Two basic categories of church planter that affect success

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Watching a church plant fail is like watching a car crash in slow motion. @clintjclifton

    A church planter puts his neck out there and says God’s calling me to plant a church. It’s It’s a very vulnerable venture. You say I believe God’s with me to do this and then you’ve got to close it down. It’s awful and just soul crushing.@clintjclifton

    There are no no current statistics but the best I can tell is that about a third of church plants don’t make it to Year 5. @clintjclifton

    Often, especially early on in ministry, we are more competent in poetry than we in plumbing. Church planting requires a different set of tools and skills than running a church that’s already established. The plumbing is what grinds us down. @ToddAdkins

    If you’re not able to actually deliver on the dream, it will fall apart quickly. You cast a great vision, but eventually you’ve got to deliver on the dreams.@ToddAdkins

    You’re moving from “the old old story” to story strategy. But as ministry grows and increases, skills have to be developed, both personally and within the church.@ToddAdkins

    In a sense, every church plant that “fails’ isn’t a failure as long as the gospel was preached and Jesus was exalted. All gospel work has some mysterious promise in it. We we don’t know how it will pan out in the future in terms of its fruitfulness.@clintjclifton

    Every single time, without exception, when I’ve sat down with a church planner who’s closing up shop, the term “isolation” has been used.@clintjclifton

    Isolation is the No. 1 cause of church plant failure from my point of view.@clintjclifton

    I don’t think we talk about Satan enough. Anytime you’ve got somebody isolated like that, I would say that feeling is coming from two different things. One would be Satan, because he doesn’t want you to succeed. The other would be the lack of structure, the systems that take the burden off you.@ToddAdkins

    Say no – and continue to say no for the rest of your life – to a lot of things. Work just as hard on your clarity as anything else.@ToddAdkins

    in order to serve the church really well, you’re going to have to rob something right now, and that’s the sermon. In a lot of our churches, all guys want to do is the poetry part. @ToddAdkins

    A new church needs more that preaching, praying, loving and staying to come up out of the dirt.@clintjclifton

    You’re clear on your story and your strategy. The problem is you haven’t done anything yet. When you actually start to do this stuff, you better have just as much clarity on your structure and systems.@ToddAdkins

    You better be just as clear on your structure and systems as you are on your story and strategy.@ToddAdkins

    The second most common reason church plants fall apart is conflict with team members. It’s extremely common, and often those conflicts are terminal for the church because it is too young and weak and vulnerable.@clintjclifton

    The third thing in church plant failures is just a general lack of self-awareness when it comes to personal giftings. If you go into church planting without a really good handle on what you’re good at and not so good at, it can be detrimental to the life of the church.@clintjclifton

    When you identify strengths and weaknesses you didn’t know you had, you’re going to understand yourself better and set up yourself a lot better for success.@ToddAdkins

    Helpful Resources:

    • Todd Adkins: One Ministry Question podcast
    • Mark Dever’s The Deliberate Church Book
    • Learn more about the Myers-Briggs test and Emotional Intelligence
    • Learn more about StrengthsFinder
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer”
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    Church Plants Multiplying Early Jan 06, 2022
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    Episode 630: When should a church plant set its sights on planting a daughter church? Co-hosts Ed Stetzer and Dhati Lewis discuss the problems of planting too early and the importance of “planting pregnant.”

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • When the best time might be to plant your daughter church
    • What it means to “plant pregnant”
    • How Send Network’s new resources can make church planting easier
    • The four steps from being a church plant to becoming a multiplying church
    • Where the next generation of church planters is likely to come from
    • How a new church can start prioritizing financially for church planting
    • How to respond to the relational pain experienced by church planting teams

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    I wanted to be the last generation to leave the urban context for sound discipleship. I’m committed to raising up urban leaders in majority-minority, multi-ethnic spaces – which is another way of saying “urban.” That’s what North America is in all cities and what North America will be in 2040. @DhatiLewis

    People ask me, “When is the time to plant our daughter church?” The rule of thumb has always sort of been that if you don’t do it within three years, you’ll never do it. Sometimes you heard people say, “Let’s get involved earlier, like in the first year.” @EdStetzer

    One of the things we’ve intentionally done in Send Network is having people thinking that they need to “plant pregnant” – planting together with the understanding that one of your team members is coming in to be going out. So they plant with that DNA. @DhatiLewis

    I have seen people with the “three years” multiplication mindset go in and plant healthily, and I’ve seen them, unhealthily at times, trying to plant whether they’re ready or not. @DhatiLewis

    There’s lots of pain that comes from planting when you aren’t ready. You experience a lot of pain and trauma as a church, and you give some to the church plants, because they were expecting something from us that they didn’t get because we were still trying to take care of ourselves. @DhatiLewis

    I wish I knew then what I know now. A plant needs certain things from the sender. You think that would be intuitive because you just went through the process, but when you’re looking at it from the other lens, you just don’t know you can’t provide it. @DhatiLewis

    I’m really excited that Send Network is creating resources for sending churches. If we had what we’re giving now, it would have been a lot different for us. I still would have done it, but I would have done it a lot differently. There was some pain we didn’t have to experience. @DhatiLewis

    I’ve encouraged church planters to say that from Year 1, they’re going to be involved in a church plant, but depending on how Year 1 goes, that church plant involvement could look different. Perhaps you partner in Year 1 and Year 2, and then mother by the time you get to Year 3. @EdStetzer

    In Send Network, we that we believe every Send Network church is a multiplying church in the making. The question I like for us to think about is what is the easy, obvious and strategic next step to becoming a multiplying church? @DhatiLewis

    You become a multiplying church once you’re discovering, developing and deploying people from within. What we try to do is give people exposure, get the congregation thinking beyond themselves. @DhatiLewis

    We immediately try to get a church plant to become a supporting church – praying, participating or partnering. A supporting church becomes a sending church when you’ve helped someone discover their calling and go through training. The multiplying church has developed a system to discover, develop and deploy. @DhatiLewis

    Everybody’s looking for that already discipled, already trained person to send out, and that well is running a lot drier. The next generation of church planters are either not saved in your neighborhood or they’re currently in your pews. @DhatiLewis

    There are so many things I would do differently in planting churches, knowing now what I do, but that’s why I’m passionate about helping other churches to not have to face the pain we did. @DhatiLewis

    Get involved early and often in church planting. While that’s going to look different in different contexts, some can go too early but most take too long. @EdStetzer

    People early on need to be accustomed to the fact that you’re a church-planting church. It sets that agenda, you look for those opportunities, you raise up those leaders who are going to go out and make a difference. @EdStetzer

    Helpful Resources:

    Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer”

    Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

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    Why is Church Planting So Hard? Jan 05, 2022
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    Episode 629: What two things can we do to encourage more bivo/covo church planting – and what are the relational, financial and missiological benefits? Host Ed Stetzer and Brad Brisco, NAMB’s director of bivocational church planting, discuss bivo/covo church planting and how, depending on cultural context, it might be easier – or more difficult – than traditional church planting.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • The difference between “bivocational” and “covocational”
    • The importance of developing a core team, regardless of how a church is being planted
    • How bivo/covo church planting, depending on cultural context, might be easier or more difficult
    • When church planting shifted from being a discipling experience to a “launch” experience
    • What two things we can do to encourage more bivo/covo church planting
    • The relational, financial and missiological benefits of covo church planting
    • How traditional church planters and pastors can encourage bivo/covo planting

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Sometimes we bifurcate our thinking about ministry. I think I think that, unfortunately, we have too many bivocational planters or pastors who compartmentalize their work in the marketplace and their mission or ministry. I don’t think that’s helpful. @BradleyBrisco

    A bivocational church planter is someone who has a part-time job in the marketplace that they see as temporary. A covocational church planter, on the other hand, would be someone with a primary calling in the marketplace that they never intend to leave. @BradleyBrisco

    How can you do what God’s called and wired you to do for the glory of God, but at the same time have a different imagination for church planting where you can start something while you’re in the marketplace? @BradleyBrisco

    The most difficult time of church planting is when you’ve got nobody and you’re trying to start off from there. @EdStetzer

    Sometimes I wonder if we have some foundational assumptions about church and mission and even leadership that actually make church planting more difficult. @BradleyBrisco

    An understanding of the church as a vendor of religious goods and services can create a consumeristic monster. I wonder if there’s benefit in seeing the church as a more simple, more nimble, more missionary entity – which doesn’t make it easy by any means. @BradleyBrisco

    More simple, organic church planting may actually be harder in some ways with the majority of people in our culture. I think it’s hard to say, “Listen, we’ve got a church. There’s no pastor in the sense you understand a pastor, and we meet in a home and it’s not a cult.” @EdStetzer

    In an increasingly missionary context, in places where we’re really reaching into lostness, we have to have a “longer runway” perspective and we have to measure and count different things. We need to focus on more organic, relational discipling. @BradleyBrisco

    Often our very first step of evangelism is we have to deconstruct the caricatures lost people have about christians and the church. The only way we’re going to do that is by doing life with them and actually building relationships. @BradleyBrisco

    In bivo/covo church planting, when you don’t have this immediate need to get to financial self-sufficiency, there’s less pressure toward that Sunday morning gathering and you can evangelize and disciple a church into existence. @EdStetzer

    If your goal was discipling people, rather than launching a public worship service, there’d be a lot fewer church planting failures because we had a different target and it made a difference. @EdStetzer

    Sometimes we make church planting harder than it needs to be because we don’t do it with a team. If you’re bivo/covo, there’s just no other option. You have to do this with a team. @BradleyBrisco

    My perfect scenario would be two or three covocational couples and two or three covocational singles planting a church together. Can you imagine the relational capital? And if each one gave six or more hours a week toward a church plant, think about the financial sustainability. @BradleyBrisco

    We need to tell the beautiful stories of the bivo/covo planter who’s driving the school bus, the school teacher, the mechanic who’s planting a church. We have to do a better job of tapping into the power of the narrative. @BradleyBrisco

    Start a bivo/covo pilot project on the side, and when that goes well, capture those stories and tell them to the rest of the congregation. That’s going to open up the eyes of other people to say, “Hey, I love what they’re doing. I think I could do that!” @BradleyBrisco

    Helpful Resources:

    • Free on NewChurches.com:
      – Course: Developing a Core Team
      – Book: Covocational Church Planting
    • Ed Stetzer’s book, Viral Churches, on amazon.com
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer”
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
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    How Not to be a Jerk Dec 21, 2021
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    Episode 628: What are some traits of domineering leaders and how can you recognize them in your own life? Host Clint Clifton and Todd Adkins, LifeWay’s director of leadership development, discuss healthy work relationships and how to guard against patterns of domineering leadership developing in new pastoral leaders.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • What can be done to guard against patterns of domineering leadership developing in new pastoral leaders
    • Some traits of domineering leaders and how you can recognize them in your own life
    • What a healthy work relationship has in common with a healthy marriage
    • Four signs you are a domineering leader
    • What “useful vulnerability” looks like in a good leader
    • How to fill in the blank: “If you’re a leader and you want to make everybody happy, just go _____”
    • What 1 Peter 5 says about God’s standard for those who lead His Church.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    The rise and fall of Mars hill podcast has started a conversation around leadership that, while it has been happening already now has really come to a state of maturity where we are facing head-on the difficulties of domineering leadership that we also see manifested in smaller ways in in local churches. @ClintJClifton

    We need to say OK, what can I learn from this and how is it going to move me forward in my relationship with Christ and and bring glory to Him and and His Church. It’s better to learn from somebody else’s mistakes before we learn for our from from our own. @Todd Adkins

    You have to be careful about cheap leadership, which happens when you are a jerk and you use your “power” and position to get your way or to make it all about you or fill in the blank. @Todd Adkins

    On the other side of it, cheap leadership is not leading at all, being so concerned about something that you don’t actually do much or move people forward because you don’t have the confidence or competence to make decisions and move forward. @Todd Adkins

    This is a stewardship issue. It’s about recognizing the responsibility we have as leaders to not please everybody. At the end of the day, the burden on you is to lead, whether or not you make everybody happy along the way. @Todd Adkins

    Someone once told me that pastors are professional forgivers and, if you happen to be on the side of receiving criticism, you’re going to have to have thick skin and a tender heart, not thin skin and a hard heart. You have a heart of receptivity toward the criticisms but don’t let them go into your marrow. @ClintJClifton

    When you’re establishing a church plant, a really big part of the culture you’re creating is how you yourself are interacting with the people, the tone that you set, the things that you celebrate, measure, control or reprimand. All those things are key levers in setting that culture. @Todd Adkins

    People can outrun their competence and character pretty quickly, if they don’t continue to be humble and they don’t intentionally put guardrails around themselves. They naturally drift toward domineering because of basic human nature. @Todd Adkins

    Good leadership is a powerful weapon and it needs to be in the hands of somebody with good character who knows how to use it. We must be dedicated to truly and authentically developing leaders and passing along the character of Christ to them. @ClintJClifton

    Part of it is recognizing that your legacy is not what you do, it’s who you develop; it’s not the organization you build, it’s the organism you build. It’s all about the posture at which you approach leadership and motivation. @Todd Adkins

    You have to ask questions: What’s it like working on the other side of me? Do I give others the grace that I ask for? If I treated my spouse like this, how would they react? @Todd Adkins

    Good leaders don’t react; they respond. And there’s a big difference: One is emotional and one is actual leadership. @Todd Adkins

    Helpful Resources:

    • Free on NewChurches.com:
      — Articles on leadership development
      – Clint Clifton’s course: Church Planting Primer
      – Our Bivocational Ministry course
      – The Church Planting Masterclass
      – Clint Clifton’s ebook: Church Planting Thresholds
    • Download Todd’s ebook, Leading Change in Your Church
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