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    New Churches Podcast

    The New Churches podcast offers practical answers to your real ministry questions. We aren’t going to provide lofty pie-in-the-sky theories. Instead, we are going to help you in your real ministry context, with your real thoughts, questions, and issues.

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    The Downside of Professional Christianity Mar 10, 2022
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    Episode 648: Full-time paid ministry is fraught with perils. Host Trevin Wax and Ed Welch, a Christian counselor with more than 30 years of experience, sort out the various challenges and offer valuable insight into how to meet them.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How to be dutiful in pastoral ministry and still maintain your pursuit of holiness in Christ
    • Why your relationship to Christ in ministry can be negatively affected by shame
    • How to receive constructive criticism without it leading to a shame response
    • The way to distinguish between helpful, constructive criticism and negative criticism
    • How taking stock of your motives can help you maintain the fire and not lose your first love
    • The importance of keeping watch against vanity while building a church and ministry
    • How to maintain spiritual fervor and personal disciplines while working to feed and care for your flock
    • Two questions a pastor should always be ready to answer

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Chuck Swindoll says, “The scary thing about ministry is that you can learn to do it” – in the sense that you eventually become overfamiliar with holy things and begin to look at your ministry as a job, rather than a calling. @TrevinWax

    Almost everybody that I know who’s in ministry starts out because they’ve got a sincere love of God and they really want to help people, yet we hear these stories of ministry leaders who have wandered off course. @TrevinWax

    It’s not necessarily pastoral ministry that causes people to wander. People were wandering before they were in pastoral ministry and it expresses itself in pastoral ministry. As an educator in a seminary, I get evaluated twice a year, but a pastor gets evaluated every single week. @Ed Welch

    Shame opens the entire Scripture to us in some ways. The entire storyline of Scripture is what will the Lord do for people who are unacceptable, not just before Him but before other people? @Ed Welch

    If you’re not familiar with shame, you start to wonder do you really belong to Him? Because they’re the people he runs after, the ones who need him desperately. @Ed Welch

    Pastors are going to be criticized – for decisions they make, for the way the way they preach or don’t preach. A lot of times young pastors may not be prepared for critical feedback, especially in those first years when they’re working a lot of things out. @TrevinWax

    Criticism reminds us that the way we walk in the kingdom of Christ, with Christ, is a walk of dependence. @Ed Welch

    Spurgeon was criticized by some people in his church and, the way the story goes, he seemed to be resilient in the midst of the criticism. How did he do that? His comment was, “They don’t know the half of it.” @Ed Welch

    Get out in front of the criticism and speak our weaknesses, failures and sins to the Lord, because we know them better than the people around us. @Ed Welch

    Young pastors could ask, “What is one thing that makes sense to my soul that I want to continue to grow in?” @Ed Welch

    Once paid, full-time ministry becomes your livelihood, people will say, “This is what you’re you’re supposed to do because you’re paid to do it.” @TrevinWax

    Once you are feeling competent in ministry, that is a danger sign, because it means we can get through the day on our own. There’s not this dependent calling out to Jesus. @Ed Welch

    We should ask ourselves what are the things that happen in private that you don’t want anybody else to have access to and God himself doesn’t have access to it. @Ed Welch

    There are quiet but dangerous places in our own soul. @Ed Welch

    There can be a fine line between the motive to see the fame of the Lord spread and the enjoyment of whatever influence they have or platform their success might give them. @TrevinWax

    The human heart is a messy thing. Whether we see it or not, a fear of crushing failure always feels like it’s nearby. You’re going to find vanity on one hand and this sense of worthlessness on the other. Both of them have their own dangers. @Ed Welch

    Could you imagine saying to your church leaders, “Would you pray for me? I don’t want to live out of vanity and I don’t want to live out of being crushed by failure.” @Ed Welch

    For a church planter, Sunday is relentless. The pace of public teaching means having to be in the Word of God in order to feed the flock. But you can be in the Word and actually be applying the Word to yourself less. @TrevinWax

    Their devotional life gets swallowed up by their teaching ministry. The water’s passing through you, but you’re not really getting the nutrients you need as a leader. @TrevinWax

    A standing item on the leadership’s agenda should be the pastor speaking about his own soul and asking for prayer from the elders. @Ed Welch

    Helpful Resources:

    • Ed Welch’s article: How Far Do We Go with Vulnerability?
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Did you know our Church Planting Masterclass offers 80+ free videos on the church planting experience?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

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    Ministry Betrayal Mar 08, 2022
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    Episode 647: At some point in church ministry, practically all pastors will experience betrayal or hurt from those near them. Host Trevin Wax talks with Ed Welch, a Christian counselor with more than 30 years of experience, about preparing for that and still putting your whole heart into ministry.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How to deal with the experience of betrayal that anyone in pastoral ministry will have at some point
    • Ways to prepare for the possibility of betrayal and still put your whole heart into ministry
    • How a church plant’s growing pains can result in relational distance with members of the core team
    • The importance of setting expectations and boundaries to protect a pastor’s family from unfair expectations
    • How pastors can guard the hearts of their kids so they don’t develop a cynical or jaundiced view of the church
    • Ways to apply the truth of the gospel to families struggling through relational strain

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Spurgeon said “an unkind word from a stranger may have a very slight effect upon us. But if such a word should come from the lips of one we love, it would cut us to the quick.” @TrevinWax

    Betrayal and that sense of hurt in relationships is something common to humanity, certainly expected in pastoral ministry, and yet it takes on a unique shape in church planting. @TrevinWax

    Recognize that you will go through this experience and, when you go through it, there will be people in your church, even dear friends, who will struggle to understand what it’s like. @Ed Welch

    I’ve heard leaders say, “Keep an emotional distance from the people you’re leading. Don’t have good friends in the church, just because of the depth of betrayal, the level of hurt can be so high.” @TrevinWax

    You could say the same things about marriage: When are you going to choose to be self-protected and isolated? @Ed Welch

    In Second Corinthians, Paul is in the middle of pastoral betrayal. He says “I’ve spoken to you freely” and then he invites them to open their hearts to him in return. That is an expression of love and not self-protection, so it it hurts more. @Ed Welch

    There are different kinds of hurt and some kinds are an imitation of Christ in loving other people. There is a way we find grace in the midst of it. @Ed Welch

    Would Paul say, “Open up your heart, even if you know it’s going to be broken”? @TrevinWax

    The question is what that means for each pastor to open his heart to others. @Ed Welch

    At a minimum, it means you are asking for prayer from other people. That’s what you do with your friends. It’s also a check on your own heart. It means you are not going to close your heart, but you are needy before the Lord and before other people. @Ed Welch

    There are times when people who were part of the core will feel a bit of a relational distance from the church planter and his family, just by nature of the growing pains of that church. @TrevinWax

    The sense of betrayal that people on the planting team sometimes might feel can backfire on the pastor. @TrevinWax

    One thing you can do is to share your heart with your people in general and your care team in particular. A second is seeing your core team in the Ephesians 4 sense, where they are doing the work of ministry and you are supporting them. @Ed Welch

    A lot of times, the feelings of distance or betrayal come in the form of criticism of ministry decisions. What’s really painful is that sometimes it’s directed at the planter’s family. @TrevinWax

    As a church planter. I’m called to the church. My wife and children are very vulnerable. So ask your people to pray for them. If I’m asking people to pray for my family, they’re going to be less critical of them. @Ed Welch

    It is hard to hate or despise people you’re praying for regularly. That’s simply the case, one of the ways prayer works on our hearts. @TrevinWax

    A lot of pastors worry that the the stress of church planting, unfair expectations and the sense of ministry betrayal may bleed over into their kids and give their their kids a jaundiced view of the church. @TrevinWax

    The most natural way into the gospel of grace is through confessing sin. I want to be a father who is quick to confess and and ask forgiveness. I want confessing sin to be a natural part of our week. That posture is going to protect our children as much as anything else. @Ed Welch

    Creating a culture of confession has kids looking into their own hearts, seeing how they might have hurt others and hurt God, rather than just waiting on the experience of hurt that might come their way. @TrevinWax

    Children who have really tasted and seen the goodness of the Lord have known the God who forgives their own sins and and they’re learning to be more charitable with other sinners, who are just like themselves. @Ed Welch

    It’s incredibly painful to experience betrayal. We’re not going to find anything in Scripture that takes it away quickly. So we try to speak it to the Lord consistently and listen to Him. @Ed Welch

    Our confidence must be more and more on the finished work of Jesus and His presence with us. That obviously isn’t going to change the feeling of broken relationships quickly, but it sets us on the path that is good, right and ultimately healthy. @Ed Welch

    Helpful Resources:

    • Free course: Developing a Core Team
    • Books by Ed Welch
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

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    3 Ways to Improve Your Preaching Mar 03, 2022
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    Episode 646: One of the most important topics for pastors and church planters is improving their preaching. Host Clint Clifton and Noah Oldham, lead pastor of August Gate church in St. Louis and NAMB’s senior director of deployment, discuss ways to continue to grow as preachers.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • Two schools of thought in church planting when it comes to preaching
    • Three things young preachers can do improve to their preaching

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    I believe God wants the church to gather and to scatter. There’s a rhythm of breathing in and breathing out. There’s a moment for monologue, a moment for dialogue and a moment for activating what we’ve learned. @NoahOldham

    As I read the Scripture, we hear the challenge in the local church to preach the Word. So preaching is vastly important. @NoahOldham

    A lot of factors contribute to the success or failure of a new church. And none of them quite impacts the church like preaching. It’s the most obvious feature of the church. @clintjclifton

    Most church planters need to be consistently working on improving their preaching. @clintjclifton

    Preaching is a main function of pastors in the church. We should seek to do it better and better all the time. @NoahOldham

    Most church planters consider themselves to be pretty good preachers yet, in my observation, most need to grow in their preaching. @clintjclifton

    Most church planters need time and reps and seasons to grow as communicators so they can be effective in the long run to help the church be strengthened. @NoahOldham

    John Stott says, “It may be more valuable to ask a friend to be candid with you about your voice or your mannerisms, especially if they need correction. An Indian proverb says, ‘He who has a good friend needs no mirror.'” @clintjclifton

    When I’m preaching, I want to disappear, yet I often carry more of myself into the pulpit than I realize. I want Him to increase and me to decrease. @NoahOldham

    The pulpit is a place of self-forgetfulness when you’re talking about God and His Word. @clintjclifton

    When you listen to somebody preach, you can tell who they love, who they listen to. @clintjclifton

    I don’t need a preacher to be someone else. I need you to be you. @NoahOldham

    Every time we imitate another preacher, it’s like a photocopy of a photocopy. @clintjclifton

    We can’t help but be influenced by those who are really gifted communicators, but it’s really helpful to limit that intake if we want to hone our own craft and find our own voice in preaching. @clintjclifton

    At August Gate, we set out this threefold standard: Is it faithful? Is it passionate? And is it compelling? @NoahOldham

    Another thing preachers can do to improve their preaching – other than just listening to their sermons by themselves – is to create a culture in their new church where sermon feedback is welcomed and weekly. @clintjclifton

    We call sermon critiques “wins and opportunities.” There’s no losses. It’s an opportunity for growth. @NoahOldham

    Creating a culture of honest feedback at a level of church membership and in your team is super important. @NoahOldham

    Soliciting feedback over and over communicates to your team and volunteers that you’re a person who wants to improve in your preaching and you’re approachable. @clintjclifton

    It’s on you as the leader to create an environment where people know they can approach you and they’re not going to be sorry they did. We want to create a culture where sermon feedback is welcomed and frequent. @clintjclifton

    Reps are everything for a preacher. Any time you can handle a mic or be in front of a crowd, if you want to grow as a communicator, do it – because it’s God giving you an opportunity to learn to find your voice in a different direction. @NoahOldham

    I heard Tim Keller say your first 300 sermons are garbage. So if you’re not to 300 yet, you should just assume your preaching needs a lot of improvement. @clintjclifton

    I would encourage those who want to improve their preaching to step back and take another role in communication in your church. Do the next steps or the announcements. It keeps me fresh and casting a vision in a new way. It keeps me sharp. @NoahOldham

    Never think yourself more highly than you ought to and find other ways to communicate. That’s going to help you get out of the rut of what you normally do every week. @NoahOldham

    Cross-train and do different things in the life of the church. @clintjclifton

    Helpful Resources:

    • John Stott’s book Between Two Worlds
    • Free Bivocational Ministry course
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

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    Preaching to Small Crowds Mar 01, 2022
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    Episode 645: Preaching to a small crowd offers both unique opportunities and particular challenges. Host Clint Clifton discusses them with Noah Oldham, planter and pastor of August Gate Church in St. Louis.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How whether you know the people you’re preaching to affects how well you communicate with them
    • Why preaching to a smaller crowd is more difficult than a large crowd
    • Some of the practices of preaching to a small crowd that need to become part of your toolbox
    • The value of focusing on a list of people in different demographics and different life situations
    • The problem of manufacturing energy when speaking to a smaller crowd
    • Opportunities in speaking to small crowds that don’t exist in larger churches
    • Insights about preaching to a camera when services are online

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    If you’re preaching to less than 100 – and it gets even more complicated when you get below like 30 – it feels small groupish. @clintjclifton

    The National Institute of Mental Health reports that public speaking anxiety is the number one phobia, affecting about 73% of the population. In fact, it said that more people fear public speaking than fear death. @clintjclifton

    Public speaking has this underlying fear of judgment and negative evaluation by others. We really value what our peers think about us, so public speaking is difficult. @clintjclifton

    I’ve always found it much more difficult to effectively communicate to small crowds than to preach to larger crowds. @clintjclifton

    Different people are built to communicate more effectively in different situations. @NoahOldham

    The smaller the group gets, the more my brain focuses on “Is this person, that person, that person are they locked in? Is their light bulb coming on?” If it’s smaller, I really fixate on it. @NoahOldham

    A small crowd with people I know is the hardest group for me to communicate with. If you make them teenagers, it gets very difficult! @clintjclifton

    I love to speak with people I know, because I know what they’re needing, what they’re expecting, what they want. I don’t have to try to entertain. @NoahOldham

    I don’t want to waste anybody’s time. The smaller the group is, the more you notice people looking at their phones, spacing out, getting up to go to the bathroom. They cause the speaker to start asking questions like, “Am I effective right now?” @NoahOldham

    In the early months of planting our church, I was casting vision for a small group of people I knew intimately. That gave me an opportunity to really grow as a speaker for small groups. @NoahOldham

    Frequency, repetition, experience and reps in speaking makes you more comfortable in front of people. It makes you a better communicator. @clintjclifton

    One of the first things I learned was how to preach to who was there, that God had put people there on purpose who needed to learn the Word. @NoahOldham

    Knowing where they’re at in life, knowing what we’re trying to build together, I’m able to preach to their moment in life. @NoahOldham

    One of the things that helped me was to imagine I was talking to individual people and to have a lot of feedback on the sermon to make it sort of a small group-like situation and do Q&A after the service. @clintjclifton

    Some of the most memorable moments in the life of our church, especially in those early days, came from those Q&A moments. But you’ve got to be on your toes, because you’re going to be asked some crazy questions, especially if you’re working with a mostly unchurched crowd. @clintjclifton

    One week I preached about forgiveness and said, “It’s your responsibility to forgive as Christ has forgiven you.” A woman, a visitor, stood up after the service and said in front of the front of the crowd, “I was raped, and you’re telling me I’m supposed to forgive the person who raped me.” @clintjclifton

    Some preachers tend to become actors when they get on a stage. In a small church, if you seem like an actor on a stage, it just doesn’t feel genuine. @NoahOldham

    I need to recognize the kind of crowd in front of me. Different crowds often lend themselves to different strategies. @NoahOldham

    With bigger crowds, there’s an energy in the room. When you preach in a smaller crowd, you almost either turn down the energy or you have to manufacture it, and I don’t want to manufacture energy. @NoahOldham

    If God has ordained this crowd to be this size, then I think he wants to do something in this size of crowd. So let’s ask him to do that. @NoahOldham

    We need to genuinely look at the people in front of me and say, “These are souls Jesus died for. He’s given them to us for such time as this. In his sovereignty, this is his purpose and plan for right now.” @clintjclifton

    We take our Sunday sermons into our small groups. It’s like a breathing in and a breathing out. We take the solid of God’s truth and make it into the liquid of real life. @NoahOldham

    A preacher is preaching to real situations that other people know about. There’s an opportunity for intimacy, community and intimacy when principle and application are very specific. @NoahOldham

    Using small groups or a Q&A gives the congregation an opportunity to interact with each other about the Word, which further solidifies that teaching in their hearts. @clintjclifton

    There’s a whole lot of online preaching happening right now. I think it’s is our punishment for making fun of televangelists for all these years. @clintjclifton

    I want to be with people. I want to see the lights come on in their eyes. @NoahOldham

    We’ve got to be open-handed in situations and say, “Jesus, what are you doing? What’s the strategy for getting your Word out?” Let us do that with a clear conscience and a heart full of faith. @NoahOldham

    Don’t despise small beginnings. Don’t despise small crowds. The world was turned upside down by a small crowd. A church of 120 people lit this thing on fire. @NoahOldham

    In a sense, Jesus pastored a small church that multiplied a lot. He gathered people together. He taught them. He broke bread with them. He equipped and sent them on mission. @clintjclifton

    Keep in mind that those in the small crowd are souls. They are Jesus’ people He’s given to us. @clintjclifton

    The church never outgrew my capacity to lead, especially in church planting. @clintjclifton

    Helpful Resources:

    • 10 Must-See Prospectus Samples
    • Find a church-planting residency near you
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes

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    When Crisis Strikes Your Ministry Feb 24, 2022
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    Episode 644: An explosive crisis in a church can destroy both the congregation and Christ’s reputation in the community. Clint Clifton discusses crisis communication strategy with Christian Pinkston, founder of Pinkston, a public relations firm in Washington, D.C., that often helps churches with strategic communications.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How a focus on enhance a church’s reputation can be an obstacle to its core mission
    • Steps young churches can take to mitigate risk and be emboldened to press forward and minister
    • The two categories of issues Pinkston finds churches most often face
    • The importance of having a communication strategy in place before a crisis happens
    • The three root causes of crisis in a church
    • What a church should do to have good risk-prevention policies in place
    • How a church planting pastor can introduce his congregation to the community through public relations

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Often we see a church focus on their profile in the community, probably for good reasons, but it almost always takes away from the focus on discipling their flock and loving and serving their neighbors. @cpinkston

    Churches focused and intentional about being the church don’t find themselves in a crisis nearly as often as churches that are aiming to be something bigger than they probably should. @cpinkston

    It seems like the moment we’re living in is a minefield that’s causing pastors to have fear and freeze in place, rather than move forward and bold faith to reshape their communities. @clintjclifton

    We cannot walk in fear or serve our church in fear. @cpinkston

    The amount of negative pressure that’s coming to churches and pastors almost feels overwhelming. @clintjclifton

    You can’t out-communicate a set of bad policies. @cpinkston

    Failure comes in not knowing best practices and implementing them in advance. @cpinkston

    We tend to say, “This isn’t that big a deal. It’ll blow over” – and then it becomes a bigger deal. @clintjclifton

    Crises are appointments by the Lord in his sovereignty as opportunities to glorify Him and an opportunity for you to walk it out faithfulness in front of your congregation without fear. They are painful, but the Lord redeems those things. @cpinkston

    Hiding and denying is where these things escalate into major stories, and it’s avoidable. @cpinkston

    Create a culture of transparency in your church and start building trust with your congregation. When something really bad does happen, that trust will take you a long way. @cpinkston

    The best crisis communication strategy is to be proactively communicating and building a reputation before there is a crisis. if the first thing someone hears about you is negative. It is really really hard to transform that narrative. @cpinkston

    When a church tries to elevate its profile for the wrong reason, people bristle at that and it’s counterproductive. But when your church can be known for sacrificially loving and serving their community, that resonates. @cpinkston

    There’s a lot we do in outreach – one-to-one connections – and then people show up on Sunday as a result. But there’s a lot we do that just simply builds the church’s reputation and aren’t necessarily reflected in the offering plate or the attendance. @clintjclifton

    Building rapport in your community is a marathon. @clintjclifton

    Don’t avoid controversial issues but think about how you engage those topics. Talking through them in a winsome, gracious but biblically sound way is helpful to the congregation. @cpinkston

    Pastors tend to overestimate their communication aptitude. @clintjclifton

    Helpful Resources:

    • Visit Pinkston’s website
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

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    4 Funding Models for Church Planters Feb 22, 2022
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    Episode 643: Ed Stetzer, Tiffany Smith and Clint Clifton discuss the advantages and disadvantages of four different approaches to funding a church plant.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    Some of the advantages and disadvantages of four possible approaches to fund church planting:

    • The “Shark Tank” approach
    • The “School Fundraiser” approach
    • The “Get a Job” approach
    • The “Campus Crusade” approach

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Some assume that planting is like a business: You get a business loan and get started. But that’s not really the way it works. @clintjclifton

    The “Shark Tank” approach depends really heavily on the quality of the church planter’s pitch. @clintjclifton

    The missiological effect of that paradigm is that it cultivates top-down leadership. You automatically are going to be fighting that paradigm and have to be very intentional about unleashing the whole church. @tiffanydsmith

    The least common approach is what I call the “School Fundraiser” approach. The church plant tries to raise money by selling things in order to fund the mission. @clintjclifton

    One church we planted had a “baby shower” for our new church. You can buy our nursery equipment or our sound equipment. @edstetzer

    I’m of the view that you develop the resources anywhere, in any way you can ethically and appropriately. @edstetzer

    The posture of the individual is important. If the community feels like it’s a pushy car salesman kind of thing, then it’s going to be negative for the the missional movement. But if it’s a blessing to the community, then I think it would be super helpful. @tiffanydsmith

    The church I’m involved in went into partnership with a developer and we’re building an apartment complex. Some of the revenue off the apartment complex will will fund our ministry and mission. @clintjclifton

    The next one is the “Get a Job” approach and this is bivocational church planting. No fundraising needed. The planter works really hard until the church is able to offer enough support for the planter to become a staff member. @clintjclifton

    One of the coolest aspects of this approach is that a lay leader or a member in the church is seeing before them a life lived out in the marketplace and that it’s a normal practice. @tiffanydsmith

    I’ve seen people who are so intertwined in the community that their work gives them insight into the needs and the pulse of the community. They’re also building up relational equity. @tiffanydsmith

    The next one I call the “Campus Crusade” approach, which seeks commitments from individuals to give regularly monthly amounts to support an individual missionary. @clintjclifton

    This is a wonderful opportunity for people to be blessed by God to participate in the mission. @edstetzer

    I love the idea of “We’re a family and so we’re supporting one another.” If you are recruiting 50 to 100 individuals to support the mission, they are a part of that mission too. It is highly relational. @tiffanydsmith

    Helpful Resources:

    • Clint Clifton’s article – Demystifying Church Planter Funding
    • Bill Dillon’s book – People Raising: A Practical Guide to Raising Support
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes!

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    Church Planter Friendly Jobs Feb 17, 2022
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    Episode 642: Next-generation missionaries and church planters are leveraging their careers for mission. Host Ed Stetzer talks with NAMB’s Tiffany Smith and Clint Clifton about vocational options that work well for bivo/covo church planters.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • Considerations you must keep in mind as you think about planting a church while having another job
    • Whether the bivo/covo trend actually is increasing
    • What vocations are really good fits for bivo/covo work
    • How well entrepreneurial work fits with bivo/covo planting
    • A New Testament perspective on bivo/covo work
    • Opportunities for next-generation missionaries and church planters to leverage their careers for mission

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    People who are bivocational or covocational are just amazing heroes. And bivocational pastors are much more common than most think. In some denominations, half the pastors are bivocational. @edstetzer

    There seems in many many cases to be an assumption that the best church planting is fully funded. That’s not necessarily something statistical. @edstetzer

    It is very very common to think of covocational or bivocational as Plan B. But it would be amazing to see a shift, because I think we’ll see more momentum into places the church normally isn’t present. @tiffanydsmith

    It has been a talking point for years for bivocational pastors to be the heroes, but now we’re actually seeing stories of bivocational or covocational pastors deeply entrenched in their careers who also are fruitful pastors and church planters. @clintjclifton

    Jobs that have start and end times and allow you to bring your best in planting seem to make the bigger difference. @edstetzer

    Bivocational ministry was so normal in the early church that the believers were encouraged to give an extra blessing to those who were pulling double duty. @tiffanydsmith

    Perhaps the most significant benefit of planting as a bivo/covo leader is that it gives the planter greater opportunities to connect relationally with people in the community. @edstetzer

    The planter sees a genuine and real need in the community and then moves into that segment to meet the need naturally and connects to the community. @tiffanydsmith

    Some planters are getting into a business connecting to people that the church would not typically have access to. @tiffanydsmith

    Certain entrepreneurial ventures are really given to being great missiologically. There are missiological advantages to certain careers. @clintjclifton

    A social entrepreneur explores business opportunities that have a positive impact on their community, in society or the world. @edstetzer

    You end up not as two closed hands, but as two hands actually working together. @edstetzer

    You have to be careful because you want to be a person of integrity and not planting a church using social entrepreneurship as a tool. @edstetzer

    Right now, in our culture there’s a vacuum in relational connections. Whatever creative way we end up connecting in the community, we should give the highest relational salt and light and fruit of the Spirit we can. @tiffanydsmith

    More often, it’s helpful for a church planter to be solving local problems in a local place and find a way to rally the community around that problem and place. Interacting with the same group of people provides new missional opportunities. @clintjclifton

    Invite the Holy Spirit. Say, “Hey, show me a creative way to step into my vocation, step into my passion and maximize the gospel and the kingdom movement.” @tiffanydsmith

    I would love to see the church unleashed. If we make the shift where everybody sees themselves on mission, sent and released into the world to be salt and light, then we’re going to see more movement and discipleship at a deeper, richer level than we’ve seen before. @tiffanydsmith

    Helpful Resources:

    • Free article: Brad Brisco: 3 Benefits of Bivocational Church Planting
    • Free ebook: Brad Brisco: Covocational Church Planting
    • Steve Sjogren: Community of Kindness
    • Ed Stetzer: Planting Missional Churches
    • Daniel Im: You Are What You Do: And Six Other Lies about Work, Life, and Love
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

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    The Power of Moments Feb 08, 2022
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    Episode 639: When people experience powerful moments at church, they leave remembering having encountered the Lord and feeling changed. Clint Clifton and Todd Adkins discuss the challenge of “setting the table” for those moments without crossing the line into manipulation.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • The four different types of moments a church planter wants to create for his congregation
    • Why it’s important to set the table but remember it’s the Holy Spirit who moves in powerful moments
    • Why events like “Pack a Pew Sunday” and elements like altar calls and membership were important in creating powerful moments
    • The challenge of remembering that people, not the program, are pre-eminent

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Not that you want to manufacture a moment but there are things that we can do that will make the environment most conducive to that. The Holy Spirit is the person that is going to be moving them, but you need to do everything in your power kind of to make that moment “happen.” @ToddAdkins

    It’s important for us to have moments and mile markers in our walk with Christ. It’s also important to have moments and mile markers in the life of our church early on. @ToddAdkins

    There was a sort of Charles Finney revivalism that crossed the line into what most church-planting pastors would consider manipulation. We’ve overcorrected and said, “We want everything to be organic.” And we’ve lost some of those critical opportunities in our local ministries. @ClintJClifton

    I want to set the table. I want to light the candles but I want to recognize on my part that the real magical thing that’s going to happen in ministry is the work of the Spirit. It’s the work the Word does in somebody’s life. @ClintJClifton

    I want to create an environment where people will come to the table so they might experience the Lord in a really special way. We want people to leave remembering having encountered the Lord and feeling changed. @ClintJClifton

    Instead of doing the hard creative work of how we can create an environment or an experience where people are likely to grow, we’re just simply running the play we’ve seen happen so many times before. @ClintJClifton

    Apathy lulls us into to not having those moments. We need to stop and take a fresh look at what we’re doing. @ClintJClifton

    Part of what it is, is the inertia of your own success. And sometimes that success is just staying open. Sometimes it’s growth. @ToddAdkins

    You’re not going to have margin to think about setting the table and lighting the candles. You’re just going to continue delivering meals to the table. And the next thing you’re throwing TV dinners there and you didn’t even know it. @ToddAdkins

    The 90 days before the launch of the church are hard, just a grind. And then the next 90 days you have to build on that inertia of success. So even though you want to go home and slump in the chair and rest, you better have something planned to take advantage of that moment. @ToddAdkins

    When I can plan what I’m going to do that first 90 days after a launch when we’re all kind of dragging, that’s going to rejuvenate your volunteers and you as well. @ToddAdkins

    One of the biggest mistakes I see church planners making is thinking completely about the beginning of their church services, their launch day and thinking little or nothing about the life of their church in the systems and rhythms of their church after that first day. @ClintJClifton

    It’s like thinking about the wedding a lot, but not about the marriage at all. @ClintJClifton

    It’s fallen out of vogue to have big days – pack a pew Sunday, friend day – and it is a little corny, but in throwing that whole lot out, we have really lost something. @ClintJClifton

    We need to take full of advantage of that moment that we have. And then look forward down the line to say, “Okay, and this is where we’re going.” @ToddAdkins

    Two things today that we kind of push off, and that is the altar call and membership. Both of those got hijacked 40 years ago. Don’t throw those things out. Don’t treat them like they’re a tool, but do think of them as a moment. @ToddAdkins

    Baptism is a very, very, very powerful moment in the life of that person that we should steward well. @ToddAdkins

    The problem is when the program becomes pre-eminent. You have to remember the program is for the people, the people are not for your program. @ToddAdkins

    Programs come and go but the real question is, how are we making sure that we are being absolutely wonderful stewards of the time that people are giving us and the experience that they’re given? @ToddAdkins

    Helpful Resources:

    Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer

    Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Maximizing the Big Day bundle at EdStetzer.com

    Books by Chip and Dan Heath

    • Power of Moments
    • Made to Stick
    • Decisive
    • Switch

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    Systems for Multiplication Feb 03, 2022
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    Episode 638: Systems for multiplying church leaders must have a healthy balance of the organic and pragmatic. Host Clint Clifton discusses how to create an effective system of leadership development with Todd Adkins, director of LifeWay Leadership.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • Three reasons leaders must be learners in front of those they lead
    • Components of the multiplication system at Clint’s Pillar Church
    • Why Todd’s program at McLean Bible Church focused on both core competency and role competency
    • Why Todd evaluates a residency program on inputs, throughputs and outputs
    • How Mark Dever, pastor of Capitol Hill Baptist Church, compares church planter residencies to medical residencies
    • The four phases Todd sees in leadership multiplication
    • The MAWL model of leadership development
    • Why Todd thinks you can’t tell in advance who’s going to be “successful” and who isn’t

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Your church would like to plant other new churches, but there are some day-to-day activities that are going to prohibit that, if you don’t have some systems set up for them. @ClintJClifton

    ‘Systems’ is not a dirty word. Sometimes, when we hear it, we think that’s a business-type thing. But God created the solar system and the circulatory system. @ToddAdkins

    The pendulum between the organic and the pragmatic seems to go back and forth a lot. You have to understand from a biblical perspective a healthy balance of both things – putting on both your shepherd hat and your stewardship hat. @ToddAdkins

    Leaders learn in front of people. If you are a leader these days and you are not a learner, then you have a really, really short shelf life. @ToddAdkins

    It’s really important for us to not just be dispensers of grace, but receivers of grace, so we can be conduits all the time. @ClintJClifton

    The gold standard for us is to have a member of our church go through that process, not somebody from the outside. But if we can’t find members to do it, that’s not going to stop us from planting a church next year. @ClintJClifton

    When you have three elements together – knowledge, experience and coaching – that’s when transformation happens. @ToddAdkins

    When I look at a residency program, I look at inputs, throughputs and outputs. @ToddAdkins

    I want to be more hands-on with the people we’re developing. I want to do ministry alongside them. I want them to see me doing ministry and learn from the ways I do it bad and the ways I do it good. @ClintJClifton

    I’m starting high directive and very little supportive. But that flips over time from directive to supportive. There’s very little directive at the end. @ToddAdkins

    If you’re always focused more on what you do, rather than who you develop, you’re not going to be a “successful pastor,” in my opinion. @ToddAdkins

    I started a church 17 years ago that’s multiplied 20 plus times. And now my greatest joy in life is watching the gospel go forth from those men in their ministries. @ClintJClifton

    The greatest impact in my ministry will not be anything I do, but those I invest in and what they do for the glory of God. That’s where you find the deepest satisfaction in ministry. @ClintJClifton

    Leadership is understanding that your fruit grows on somebody else’s trees. @ToddAdkins

    Helpful Resources:

    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer”
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

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    Discovering Pastoral Potential Feb 01, 2022
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    Episode 637: One of the biggest problems a pastor faces is developing leadership. Host Clint Clifton talks with Noah Oldham, pastor of August Gate Church in St. Louis, about how you can find the future leaders for your church planting work right in your own congregation.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • Noah Oldham’s “cheat” for approaching people in whom he sees pastoral potential
    • How our free Church Planting Primer can help you get everyday Christians involved in starting new churches
    • Why August Gate Church practices foot washing as they bring in new members
    • How Clint’s church uses a preaching lab to surface planter candidates
    • How prospecting for planter candidates is like “shooting hoops”
    • What Noah Oldham means by “four H leaders”

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Very few churches who have cracked the nut of how to make members into missionaries. I want our churches, to be known for cultivating pastoral leaders from inside of our work. @ClintJClifton

    One of the things I look for is people who care about the whole church flourishing. @NoahOldham

    If you took all the fruitful church planters I’ve worked with, you couldn’t find a common denominator. It’s not as easy as noticing a quality or a characteristic, one quality or characteristic. @ClintJClifton

    We have to decide as a church at August Gate, what kind of church do we want to plant? But also, what kind of church do we want to be? @NoahOldham

    It all comes down to ecclesiology. We have to think about our ecclesiology and if we don’t have that settled, we’re never going to do this very well. @NoahOldham

    When you look at the lists in 1 Timothy and Titus, you see these lists for older men and older women and younger women. It’s like, “Where’s the list for the younger men? What’s the list of eldership?” @NoahOldham

    Every young man should aspire to be an elder. If we do that, we’ll never have a hard time finding pastors. @NoahOldham

    The only difference in an elder and a regular Christian is that they’re actually doing the things we’ve all been commanded to do. @ClintJClifton

    It’s like shooting basketball hoops. I’m going to take a lot of shots and probably not make all that many, but the more I shoot, the more I make. @ClintJClifton

    I’ve found a lot of guys who live out the rich young ruler. They ask what they have to do to be a leader and walk away sad because they realize, “Ah, it’s just going to require more than I’m willing to give.” @NoahOldham

    When I was planting, I felt like I was making all these huge sacrifices, but the truth is, God gave me a very dear family. Those who step away from planting because they think they’re going to miss out on something are forsaking the opportunity at something much, much greater. @ClintJClifton

    You have to be wildly optimistic about pastoral potential in others, take people when they’re not ready and imagine what God could do with them the same way He did with you. @ClintJClifton

    Helpful Resources:

    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?
    • Alexander Strauch’s book Biblical Eldership

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