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    Tim Harford explains – and sometimes debunks – the numbers and statistics used in political debate, the news and everyday life.

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    Are 150 year olds getting social security payments? Feb 22, 2025
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    Last week Elon Musk revealed that he had been through the Social Security Agencies database and found millions of people aged over 100.

    The vast majority of these people are dead, but their accounts and social security numbers remain live.

    Elon claimed that he had uncovered ‘the biggest fraud ever’ prompting some news outlets to speculate that billions of dollars might be being paid to these dead people every month.

    But is it true? We look at whether this is new information and what the data actually tells us.

    Produced and presented by: Lizzy McNeill Series producer: Tom Colls Editor: Richard Vadon Production Co-ordinator: Brenda Brown Sound Mix: James Beard


    Has the US sent $50 million worth of condoms to Gaza? Feb 15, 2025
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    On the 25th January, the US Press Secretary announced that in their bid to stop ‘fraud’ and waste DOGE had cancelled $50 million worth of condoms being sent to Gaza by the United States Agency for International Development (aka USAID).

    President Trump later repeated this claim, adding on that Hamas were using said condoms to make bombs to fire at Israel.

    On the 7th of February the USAID website was taken down.

    We fact check this claim and find out how much of the US budget was spent on USAID programmes.

    Presenter: Charlotte McDonald Producer: Lizzy McNeill Research: Josh McMinn Production Co-ordinator: Brenda Brown Sound Mix: David Crackles Editor: Richard Vadon


    Are black babies in the US really more likely to die under the care of white doctors? Feb 08, 2025
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    Babies born in the US to Black Hispanic or African American mothers are more likely to die than any other ethnic group in America.

    That is a fact.

    But the reason why this happens is unclear. In 2020 a study came out that claimed that black babies attended by white doctors after birth were twice as likely to die than white babies attended by white doctors.

    People jumped to the conclusion that the race of the doctor was leading to the different outcomes. But when you delve into the numbers, a very different picture starts to emerge.

    Presenter: Lizzy McNeill Series producer: Tom Colls Production coordinator: Brenda Brown Sound mix: Steve Greenwood Editor: Richard Vadon


    Are quantum computers already super-powerful? Feb 01, 2025
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    Google claim their latest quantum computer chip is able to process something in five minutes it would take a normal computer 10 septillion years to figure out.

    As this is a massive amount longer than the entire history of the known universe, that seems to suggest the chip is extremely powerful.

    But when you understand what’s going on, the claim doesn’t seem quite so impressive. Dr Peter Leek, a quantum computer scientist from Oxford University, explains the key context.

    Presenter: Charlotte McDonald Producer: Tom Colls Production co-ordinator: Brenda Brown Sound mix: Andrew Garratt Editor: Richard Vadon


    Did Trump make billions with his meme-coin? Jan 25, 2025
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    Just before being inaugurated as US president for the second time, Donald Trump launched something called a “meme-coin”. This is a bespoke cryptocurrency token featuring a picture of Donald Trump. A billion of them may eventually be created.

    Newspaper headlines claimed that the Trump meme-coin had made the president billions of dollars wealthier. But it is far from clear that this is the case. Presenter: Charlotte McDonald Producer: Lizzy McNeill Series producer: Tom Colls Production co-ordinator: Brenda Brown Sound mix: Mike Etherden Editor: Richard Vadon


    Can redheads handle 25% more pain than brunettes? Jan 18, 2025
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    What has the colour of your hair got to do with your capacity to withstand pain?

    We investigate the claim, which regularly circulates on social media, that natural redheads are 25% tougher than their brunette peers.

    Pain expert Jeff Mogil explains how it all comes down to something called MC1R.

    Presenter: Charlotte McDonald Producer: Lizzy McNeill Series Producer: Tom Colls Editor: Richard Vadon Production Co-ordinator: Katie Morrison


    Do 79% of Swedish asylum seekers go on holiday to the country they fled from? Jan 11, 2025
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    The claim that 79% of asylum seekers in Sweden go on holiday in their home country has been repeated regularly on social media. It’s used to argue that recent refugees are being disingenuous about the danger they face in the country they have fled from. But when you look at the survey the claim is based on, you see the stat in a very different way. We speak to Hjalmar Strid, who ran the survey for polling company Novus, and Tino Sanandaji from Bulletin, the online news site which published it.

    Presenter: Charlotte McDonald Producer: Tom Colls Production co-ordinator: Katie Morrison Sound Mix: Neil Churchill Editor: Richard Vadon


    Numbers of the year part 2 Jan 04, 2025
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    We asked and you responded, this edition of ‘numbers of the year’ are from you. our loyal listeners. We scoured the inboxes to find three fascinating numbers that say something about the world we live in now and put them to our experts. Tune if you want to hear about rising global temperatures, what Taylor Swift has in common with 65 years olds and facts about fax (machines).

    Contributors: Amanda Maycock, University of Leeds Jennifer Dowd, University of Oxford

    Presenter: Charlotte McDonald Reporter: Lizzy McNeill Producer: Vicky Baker and Lizzy McNeill Series Producer: Tom Colls Editor: Richard Vadon Sound Engineer: Rod Farquhar.


    Numbers of the year 2024 Dec 28, 2024
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    It’s that time of year again, the time when we ask some of our favourite statistically-inclined people for their numbers of the year. We present them to you - from falling birth rates in India to children saved by vaccines.

    Contributors: RukminiS, Data for India Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter, Cambridge University, Hannah Ritchie, Our World in Data.

    Presenter: Charlotte McDonald Producers: Lizzy McNeill and Vicky Baker Series Producer: Tom Colls Editor: Richard Vadon Sound Engineer: Donald McDonald and Rod Farquhar


    Did Mussolini make the trains run on time? Dec 21, 2024
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    “Say what you like about Mussolini but he did make the trains run on time.” This phrase is the political equivalent of “every cloud has a silver lining” – but does it have any factual basis? Mussolini’s dictatorship in Italy was full of atrocities, brutal suppression and propaganda. Did it also create a more efficient railway network? We speak to Professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat about the truth of the claim and why the Mussolini regime wanted us to believe it. Presenter: Lizzy McNeill Producer: Lizzy McNeill Researcher: Esme Winterbotham Series Producer: Tom Colls Editor: Richard Vadon Sound Master: James Beard Production Co-ordinator: Katie Morrison.

    Image: Benito Mussolini in his train studying maps. (Photo by ullstein picture/ullstein picture via Getty Images)


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