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    Mom and Mind | Pregnancy and Postpartum Depression & Anxiety

    Posptartum Depression is real. And it’s only part of the story. We dig in to ALL of the stuff that no one tells you about, but you NEED to know. Dr. Kat, Psychologist and specialist in perinatal mental health, interviews moms, dads, experts and advocates about how to cope, manage and recover from perinatal mood and anxiety disorders. We talk about postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety and SO MUCH MORE! We get real. We get honest. We put on our stigma crushing boots and address the realities of the transition to motherhood and parenthood. Learn about it before you find out about it the hard way! You don’t have to suffer! www.momandmind.com

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    266: Supporting LGBTQ+ and Non-Traditional Families with Marie Sloane Apr 24, 2023
    Show notes

    The conversation around parenting in non-traditional families needs to be expanded and better understood in today’s world. More and more families are being created with dynamics that make them non-traditional in some way, and support on the path to parenthood for EVERYONE is crucial. Join us to explore this topic in today’s episode!

    Marie Sloane is a Licensed Professional Counselor and a Certified Perinatal Mental Health Specialist based in Arizona. She focuses her practice on helping new parents of all backgrounds, specifically LGBTQ+ families and those with non-traditional family dynamics, like co-parenting, single parents by choice, queer parents, polyamorous families, and others. As a single parent for four years and a survivor of postpartum depression, Marie brings compassion and lived experience to parents adjusting to a variety of new dynamics and transitions. In our conversation, Marie explains why support for any parenting journey is vital, especially for those on a non-traditional path.


    Show Highlights:

    • How Marie came to the important work she does today after experiencing postpartum depression after the birth of her son
    • How Marie didn’t know how to take care of herself, advocate for herself, or set healthy boundaries as a struggling new mom
    • Why Marie felt alienated and isolated as she left her unhealthy relationship without good support in place
    • How counseling helped her reframe her trauma and rebuild her self-esteem–and why she wanted to become a counselor
    • How Marie has learned to navigate the world of co-parenting with her son’s father
    • Why Marie found the niche (during the pandemic) of working with LGBTQ+ parents and non-traditional families
    • Why many non-traditional parents are reaching out for a non-judgmental and affirming space
    • Why Marie encourages her clients to find a combination of online support and local community support (Explore locally to find other family groups like yours!)
    • How “deconstructing” happens for those who grew up with a very specific worldview around faith, family, morality, etc.
    • What Marie sees that is lacking in perinatal mental health and support for LGBTQ+ families
    • How we can best educate ourselves to support non-traditional families around us


    Resources:

    Connect with Marie: Website and Facebook

    Visit www.postpartum.net for resources and support!

    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.

    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!


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    265: Functional Medicine and "The Family Nervous System™" Apr 17, 2023
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    What happens to a person’s nervous system during times of stress, specifically in the transition to parenthood? The impacts of this stress on an individual’s nervous system are also felt in the entire family system. My guest has spent 25 years specializing in physical and neurological recovery in children with challenges and working with the entire family to recover “the family nervous system™”. I hope you are intrigued and want to know more! Join us now!

    BG Mancini is a licensed acupuncture physician and practices as a primary care provider via telemedicine. Her focus is on functional medicine and nervous system resilience in children and families to identify the root causes of physical, emotional, and neurological challenges. She uses different tools in her work with families, and she specifically discusses one tool called SSP in today’s conversation. Her desire is to bring joy into parenting and help people feel good in their brains and bodies, thus connecting more deeply to themselves and their children.

    Show Highlights:

    • How BG came to the healing work she does today with families
    • Why the gut microbiome is integral to mental, emotional, neurological, and hormonal health
    • The importance of the vagus nerve in the body’s responses to stress and trauma–and in the gut-brain connection
    • How the SSP (Safe and Sound Protocol) helps to scaffold the nervous system to identify threats and safety
    • How the SSP can be customized for children and adults with all manner of issues and challenges
    • Why getting an assessment about your digestion and the brain-gut connection is the best first step in stress management
    • How the app makes SSP available to everyone (with supervision)
    • How BG conducts her work through Zoom with people of all ages

    Resources:

    Connect with BG: Website (FREE 30-minute course for parents), Instagram, and Facebook

    Visit www.postpartum.net for resources and support!

    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.

    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!

    Books Mentioned by BG:

    Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcersby Robert M. Sapolsky

    The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk

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    264: Encore of Unwell Women with Elinor Cleghorn Apr 10, 2023
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    Today’s episode is a replay of one of my most popular episodes that I’m sure you will enjoy. Please tune in and share with your friends.

    We, as women, have absorbed much history into ourselves over time regarding our bodies and our health. We wonder why we feel unheard and dismissed, and the more we learn, the more enraged we should become about how modern Western medicine has treated women with medical and mental health conditions. Join today’s conversation for deep insight and a message of hope.

    Dr. Elinor Cleghorn is a feminist cultural historian, and her critical writing has been published in several academic journals. After receiving her Ph.D. in 2012, she spent three years as a post-doctoral researcher at the Ruskin School, University of Oxford, where she worked on an interdisciplinary medical humanities project. She is the author of Unwell Women: Misdiagnosis and Myth in a Man-Made World, a book that I recommend highly to all our listeners.


    Show Highlights:

    • What brought Elinor to write the book after a lupus diagnosis that followed a very complicated pregnancy with her son
    • How Elinor began her research with urgency into her lupus diagnosis and the history of medicine, expanding into other commonly misdiagnosed diseases in women
    • Why Elinor began at the beginning, learning about ancient Greece and the formation of medical practice
    • How women’s bodies were viewed largely as reproductive vessels to produce and mother male heirs
    • Why men in ancient patriarchal societies began to assert social control over women and their bodies
    • How the Western medical model has been affected by social thinking, myths, and fantasies about women’s roles
    • How the word hysteria has been applied to a misunderstanding of women and was originally derived from a word for the uterus
    • How medical leverage was used in horrible ways against black enslaved women in 19th century America, leading to gynecological violence and reproductive abuse
    • Why Elinor wanted her book to expand to cover women’s experiences all over the world and not just be her personal story
    • What Elinor has discovered about women’s mental health across history
    • How dominant ideas have shaped societal views about the ideal motherhood and “how mothers SHOULD feel”
    • Elinor’s hopes for readers of the book: “Remember that your body is your own, no matter how medical caregivers might make you feel.”


    Resources:

    Unwell Women: Misdiagnosis and Myth in a Man-Made World by Elinor Cleghorn

    Connect with Elinor: Twitter and Instagram

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    263: Coping Through Treatment-Resistant Postpartum Depression with Lynn Wilhite Apr 03, 2023
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    The message of today’s conversation is that postpartum depression and anxiety don’t always have simple, easy fixes. Medications, therapy, and other supports don’t help some as quickly as others. In these cases, suffering mothers need to know that they are not alone and that others are going through the same challenges that come with lingering depression. Today’s guest shares her story to bring awareness to this issue. Join us to learn more.

    As a social worker and mom of a three-year-old son, Lynn Wilhite suffers from postpartum depression. She has been struggling since pregnancy, with medications being unable to help her effectively thus far. She has created the Instagram page, My Journey with PPD, as a way of trying to reach other moms and partners with similar experiences. Lynn hopes to bring awareness to the fact that PMADs don’t always have an easy fix and loved ones need to support a mother for the duration of her journey.


    Show Highlights:

    • How Lynn’s PPD story began as she planned, with her psychiatrist, adjustments to her antidepressant and sleeping medications to prepare for her first pregnancy
    • How not sleeping for an extended period of time brought on her depressive episode
    • How her son’s birth went well, except for the NICU interventions brought on by her medications—and her first dose of “mom guilt” occurred
    • Where Lynn is today–three years postpartum and over 40 medications later
    • How her son had sensory processing disorders and needed several therapies, perpetuating her mom guilt
    • How Lynn tried multiple medications, trying to find something that worked
    • How suicidal ideations and problems in bonding with her son brought additional challenges
    • How Lynn experiences grief, even today, over her guilt and all the things that haven’t gone well in her motherhood journey
    • Why Lynn was hospitalized at two years postpartum after trying every medication available in different combinations
    • How a move to a different state left her with a gap in therapy and support
    • How a new medication is starting to lift the depression fog for Lynn and give her cautious optimism
    • What Lynn’s current therapy work is doing to help
    • What Lynn wants people to know and hear from her story


    Resources:

    Connect with Lynn: Instagram

    Visit www.postpartum.net for resources and support!

    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.

    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!


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    262: Impacts of High Functioning, Severe Postpartum Anxiety and Depression Mar 27, 2023
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    My guest today shares her personal story of severe postpartum anxiety and depression while appearing in a high-functioning state to those around her. It is important for us to hear real-life accounts from those who look like “everything is fine.” Join us for a closer look from this unique perspective.

    Caitlin Shadek is a mom of three boys, ages 3, 6, and 8. She is a lawyer who has practiced as a commercial litigator for the past 14 years, but she recently left her job to attend Rutgers University School of Social Work to obtain her master’s degree in social work. Her desire is to work with women with perinatal mood and anxiety disorders and help bridge the gap in their care between the OB/GYN and the pediatrician. Caitlin felt that lapse in care firsthand when she suffered from severe postpartum depression and anxiety after her first two pregnancies and entered a hospital treatment program when her third son was a toddler. Her own experiences have been the impetus behind her career change and desire to help treat and advocate for better women’s mental health care. She is currently an intern at a practice specializing in infertility and prenatal/postnatal counseling.


    Show Highlights:

    • How Caitlin’s story begins about nine years ago with her first pregnancy and the immediate feelings of dread and panic she felt at the moment of birth
    • Why she was afraid to go home from the hospital with her new baby
    • How wearing a catheter for six weeks added to the anxiety she felt about caring for her baby
    • How dark thoughts plagued her–but she never shared them with anyone and pretended that everything was fine
    • How she began therapy and medication when her son was about nine months old, but the dark thoughts and depression continued
    • Why she wanted a second child–despite the serious issues in her life (including self-harming behaviors)
    • How she felt guilt about continuing her medication while pregnant and experienced postpartum depression AGAIN
    • How Caitlin went back to work and put on her “high-functioning postpartum depression face”
    • How her struggles continued into her pregnancy with her third son, and things felt a little different after his birth
    • How the pandemic threw their family into survival mode with everyone at home together
    • Why Caitlin worked very hard to put on a good face until everything culminated in December 2021–and she knew she was NOT OK
    • How Caitlin’s therapist sent her to the ER during an intense COVID resurgence because of her depression and suicidal thoughts
    • Why Caitlin agreed to go to the psychiatric floor for treatment–and then tried to change her mind
    • How she was released to go home and enrolled in an outpatient DBT program that changed her life
    • How Caitlin decided what her next phase of work would be–to become a social worker and provide other mothers with the help she had needed
    • Why maternal mental health falls between the OB/GYN and pediatrician and is often overlooked
    • What Caitlin would say to someone in a similar situation


    Resources:

    Connect with Caitlin: Instagram

    Visit www.postpartum.net for resources and support!

    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.

    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!

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    261: Parenting Stress and Coping with Your Child's Medical Condition Mar 20, 2023
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    Hearing that your child has a medical diagnosis throws a new kind of stress and strain into the parenting arena. Whether the diagnosis is transient or severe, increased parental anxiety is a common issue that presents many twists and turns. Today’s guest shares a pediatrician’s perspective on supporting parents’ mental health through this process. Join us to learn more!

    Dr. Kelly Fradin is a pediatrician and the author of Advanced Parenting: Helping Kids Through Diagnoses, Differences, and Mental Health Challenges. She is a mother of two and a child advocate based in New York City.

    Currently the Director of Pediatrics at the Atria Institute, she was inspired to become a doctor because of her experience of surviving childhood cancer. She is a graduate of Harvard College and Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons, and she has dedicated her career to caring for children with complex medical conditions, using her skills in academic clinics, private practice, inpatient units, and schools. In addition to sharing information from her new book, Dr. Fradin shares realistic and powerful parenting advice and children’s health information on her Instagram account: @adviceigivemyfriends.


    Show Highlights:

    • How Dr. Kelly’s childhood cancer journey opened her eyes to the mental health needs of parents
    • Why we should normalize and talk about the challenges that come with new parenthood–and anticipate that trying times will come
    • Why it is important to have an honest relationship with your doctor and your child’s doctor
    • How feeding challenges come up for a new baby as a very common issue and diagnosis
    • How a child’s diagnosis can lead to excessive worry, anxiety, and intrusive thoughts
    • How a more serious diagnosis and a larger medical care team lead to a more complex responsibility and anxiety
    • Why parents should NOT try to “do it all” themselves but should accept help and delegate responsibilities to others
    • How a NICU experience can impact parents’ mental health (While in the NICU, don’t be afraid to ask for what you need!)
    • What the reality is in coping with a diagnosis and the stigma that follows in the “what’s next?” phase
    • Why it helps fight feelings of isolation to be open with your circle of family and friends
    • Why it’s OK to give yourself permission to feel anger in addition to frustration and sadness
    • How a couple may experience their child’s diagnosis in very different ways
    • What Dr. Fradin’s book shares about information and coping strategies for parents


    Resources:

    Connect with Dr. Kelly Fradin: Website, Instagram, and Book

    Visit www.postpartum.net for resources! I’d love to hear from you!

    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.

    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!

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    260: Immigration and Culture Shock: Coping Through PPD and PPA with Eszter Kalman Mar 13, 2023
    Show notes

    Perinatal mental health is important for every new mom, but there are extra challenges for moms who are immigrants living in a country and culture that are unfamiliar. Such is the story of today’s guest. Join us to hear how she overcame many difficulties to turn her trauma into her renewed purpose to help others!

    Eszter Kalman is a mom of two who struggled with postpartum depression and anxiety. She experienced the loneliness of motherhood after moving to the US from her native Hungary. She shares with us what it was like to discover her new life as a new mother and immigrant and how she learned to cope with the cultural differences that met her at every turn. Eszter also faced the difficulty of transitioning into motherhood after losing her own mother in Hungary and living in the US with none of her family nearby. It was her postpartum journey that led her to make meaning of her own experience by going back to school to become a therapist and help other moms. She has worked as a Helpline volunteer for Postpartum Support International and the Postpartum Health Alliance of San Diego for many years. From her beginnings in Hungary to time spent living in Spain and Italy, Eszter has resided in San Diego for the past 12 years and proudly calls it her home. She loves the sunny weather, exploring parks and beaches, and going for long walks with her dog.

    Show Highlights:

    • How Eszter experienced culture shock when she first moved to California as an immigrant from Hungary and quickly married her husband and found herself pregnant just a few months later
    • How Eszter, as a new mom, had to adjust to her husband’s family, which was very different from what she was used to as far as honoring privacy
    • How her pregnancy was easy with no mention of the possibility of postpartum depression and anxiety
    • How postpartum depression and anxiety kicked in almost immediately when she and her newborn son went home, and she felt alone and unsupported
    • How Eszter missed her mother in the first days of motherhood because she has passed away a couple of years earlier
    • How Eszter realized that she wasn’t enjoying motherhood and was jealous of other moms who were
    • How Eszter learned not to express her true feelings because she was invalidated by everyone around her
    • How one nurse made an impact as the one person who understood Eszter and tried to help her
    • How Eszter finally got connected to a therapist and found the help she needed, but was hesitant to reveal that she was getting therapy because of the cultural stigma
    • Why it became healing for Eszter to be able to openly talk about her experience and share it with others without shame and guilt
    • Why Eszter loves the work she does today in private practice to help other moms with perinatal mental health
    • How Eszter is creating resources, like a course and podcast, especially for other Hungarians
    • Why turning your trauma into your purpose makes meaning out of your experience
    • Eszter’s hopeful message for new moms: “The sooner you learn to ask for help when you need it doesn’t mean that you are weak; it means that you want to remain strong.”

    Resources:

    Connect with Eszter Kalman and Golden Tears Therapy: Website, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok

    Visit www.postpartum.net for resources! I’d love to hear from you!

    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.

    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!

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    259: Journey Through Infertility and Having a Gestational Carrier with Lizzie Smith Mar 06, 2023
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    We know that family building can happen in many different ways. Today’s show highlights one of the most harshly judged routes to having a child. Let’s take an insightful look at the beautiful process of surrogacy, also known as gestational surrogacy. This family-building option can be something that brings out the best in us as humans! Join us for the conversation!

    Today’s personal story comes from Lizzie Smith, a 40-year-old school administrator who is the mother of 17-month-old James. She and her husband went through almost a decade of infertility before their miracle baby boy was born. Lizzie explains surrogacy to us, along with why people might need a gestational carrier. She also shares common misconceptions about surrogacy and why there is such judgment around this topic, which prompts many rude and hurtful comments from others.


    Show Highlights:

    • A look at Lizzie’s journey: trying to get pregnant, having tests done, seeing a reproductive endocrinologist, and going through the long process of four failed IVF transfers
    • Why they considered surrogacy after the fourth failed IVF attempt–and felt hopeful for the first time in years
    • How the long process of surrogacy began in 2018 with an agency and Lizzie and her husband, the intended parents (IPs)
    • Why it’s a long and difficult process to choose a surrogate, a person with whom you are choosing a unique relationship
    • How going through the surrogacy process during COVID added another layer of difficulty
    • How the surrogacy process began for Lizzie with multiple tests and medical clearance for their chosen surrogate–with many opportunities for roadblocks along the way
    • How their embryo transfer took place in late 2020 after all the contracts and legal documents were signed
    • How the pregnancy progressed with Lizzie and her surrogate texting and communicating almost daily
    • How Lizzie and her husband were able to be present at the birth because COVID had calmed down
    • How Lizzie’s relationship with her surrogate continues today
    • How the surrogacy process brought unique challenges for Lizzie
    • How years of frustrating infertility brought many negative feelings to Lizzie about her “broken body”
    • How Lizzie dealt with the comments and opinions from others about her surrogacy choice–and felt pressure to “prove” herself as a person worthy of parenthood
    • Common misconceptions about surrogacy and the reasons people choose this option
    • Why support is important to intended parents going through surrogacy
    • What Lizzie wants people to know and understand about surrogacy


    Resources:

    Visit www.postpartum.net for resources! I’d love to hear from you!

    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.

    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!

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    258: Postpartum Psychosis with Michele Davidson, PhD, CNM, PMHNP-BC, PMH-BC, SANE, RN Feb 27, 2023
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    Postpartum psychosis is a topic we have highlighted on the podcast before, but the need for more information about this devastating condition always increases when it is mentioned in a tragic news story. There are so many questions and concerns when this condition turns up in the national spotlight because many people don’t understand what a mother might be going through as a result of postpartum psychosis. Regardless of the details around a specific situation, it is clear that factual information and education are needed more than ever around perinatal mental health. Join us for a closer look with today’s guest.

    **Trigger warning: I want to give a heads up that our discussion does include the topic of infanticide, so please determine for yourself if you are able to listen to this episode if this is a sensitive subject for you.

    Michele Davidson is a fellow board member with me at Postpartum Support International; she has multiple degrees and has been a certified nurse-midwife for almost 30 years, delivering more than 1000 babies in her career. After her personal battle with postpartum psychosis, she became a PMHNP with a specialization and certification in perinatal mental health to help other families who are suffering from this disorder. Dr. Davidson served as an associate professor of nursing at George Mason University and helped develop the certificate in forensic nursing. She was also the coordinator of the Ph.D. program, during which time her research focused on perinatal mood and anxiety disorders. She co-developed the Davidson Conceptual Model of Prodromal Postpartum Psychosis Symptomatology, which has been used in reproductive psychiatry practice. She is the author of over 35 textbooks and 50 peer-reviewed articles, including the Nurse’s Guide to Women’s Mental Health, which was awarded the American Journal of Nursing Book Award, and Old’s Maternal Newborn Nursing, which is published in 12 languages. On the current PSI Board of Directors, she serves as the Infanticide Coordinator and was the previous PPP Coordinator for 12 years. She resides with her husband in coastal Virginia and has four children and is the owner and founder of Chesapeake Bay Psychiatry, which specializes in perinatal mental health and serves families in VA, MD, and CT.


    Show Highlights:

    • A basic explanation of postpartum psychosis (PPP), which is just one of the conditions under the umbrella of perinatal mood and anxiety disorders (along with depression, anxiety, and OCD)
    • What the main risk factors are for PPP
    • Why PPP is different from postpartum depression and has a very different presentation
    • What the most common symptoms are of PPP, most of which are auditory or visual
    • What it might look/sound like if a loved one is battling PPP
    • What the statistics show about people with PPP relating to suicide and infanticide
    • How and when psychosis might occur, both during pregnancy or the postpartum
    • The connection between PPP symptoms and continual lack of sleep
    • What it might feel like to experience the beginning stages of PPP
    • How PPP symptoms can wax and wane–and how this characteristic plays out in the legal system and the stigma of PPP
    • How PPP played out in Michele’s life as evidence that it CAN happen to anyone, even without the common risk factors
    • Why early intervention, perinatal specialists, and other support resources are vitally important
    • Why it is important to not stop taking medications for mood and anxiety disorders
    • Highlights of helpful resources for perinatal mental health
    • Postpartum Psychosis Awareness Day is May 5! Wear purple to show your support!


    Resources:

    Connect with Dr. Davidson: Website

    Visit www.postpartum.net for resources! I’d love to hear from you!

    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.

    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!

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    257: Native Hawaiian and Pasifika Perinatal Mental Health Feb 20, 2023
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    Understanding culture is extremely important, especially in the field of perinatal mental health. The cultural context has everything to do with how someone experiences the world and manages their mental health. Join us in this episode to learn more!

    Kalena Kaopuuokalani Lanuza is a Kanaka Maoli (Native Hawaiian) and a doctorally prepared, fully-certified family and psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner and certified lactation counselor. She currently resides in the unceded territory of the Ventureño Chumash, which is commonly known as Ventura, California. We discuss the connection between colonialism and settler colonialism, cultural and intergenerational trauma, and mood and anxiety disorders in Native Hawaiians and Pasifika. Kalena also shares her current work and how the reconnection to culture and land can be important for Native Hawaiian and Pasifika people who were removed from their ancestral lands.

    Show Highlights

    • How Kalena became interested in perinatal mental health
    • How Kalena’s personal experience with perinatal anxiety with the birth of her son in 2014
    • How Kalena opened her practice last June with the intention of being available for other Native Hawaiians
    • Why Kalena named her practice with the symbolic name “Mana”
    • How Kalena found “the truest space” for her to fulfill her calling and work to help other mothers
    • Why changes are needed in health care to establish and maintain cultural competence
    • How Native Hawaiians are inextricably connected to their land
    • How the ramifications of colonialism and settler colonialism influence mental health challenges
    • Why Kalena has to be mindful of ALL the different facets that come into play when working with indigenous people
    • How “lumping” together different populations/cultures has been detrimental–and the data needs to be segregated and recalculated
    • Why we need more and more cultural competency and cultural humility in today’s world
    • Kalena’s message to other providers about sitting with each person and giving them space
    • How specific aspects of perinatal mental health can be best supported through a cultural lens
    • How the identity of a Native Hawaiian solely wrapped up in “vacation mode” is hurtful and inauthentic

    Resources

    Connect with Kalena Lanuza: Website and Instagram

    Visit www.postpartum.net for resources! I’d love to hear from you!

    Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.

    Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today!

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