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    Marketing Against The Grain

    Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot’s SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Becoming a Community-Driven Company with Yuliya Bel Jul 07, 2022
    Show notes

    Why should tech companies be media companies? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Yuliya Bel (CEO and Co-Founder of Notus) to discuss (and debate) the importance of investing in good content & distribution, doubling down on the definition of community, answer the question - is community a tool for engagement or acquiring new customers? And more!


    Who is Yuliya Bel?

    ​​founder/CEO of Notus, passionate about cult-like growth and long walks in nature.


    Check out Yuliya’s work!

    • Twitter https://twitter.com/ybelyayeva
    • Notus https://getnotus.io/


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    The Future of Marketing, Disruptive Business Models, Growing in Unfair Ways Jul 05, 2022
    Show notes

    Is community-led growth an opportunity in the future? Kipp and Kieran get a tad bit controversial with their hot takes and tangible tips on company growth hacks, doing things you can’t directly measure in marketing (and how it can help you differentiate yourself), the number one thing that marketers today don’t know but will be everything in the future, and more!


    Plus! We answer YOUR questions. Do you want to be the next featured listener question? Leave your questions in the reviews and we may feature you next.


    Things Mentioned:

    • Genius www.genius.com
    • Canva www.canva.com
    • Mirror www.mirror.co
    • Airtable www.airtable.com
    • Grammarly www.grammarly.com


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How DAOs Will Change Media In The Future with Peter Yang Jun 30, 2022
    Show notes

    Does the average user care about decentralization? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Peter Yang (Founder of Odyssey DAO) to discuss the behind-the-scenes of DAOs, the importance of ownership, what motivates a community, and answer the question: does decentralized technology matter?


    Who’s Peter Yang?

    Peter founded Odyssey DAO to onboard the next 1 million people to web3 through quality education. He is a product lead at Reddit and previously worked at Twitch, Twitter, and Facebook.


    Check out Peter’s work!

    • Odyssey DAO https://www.odysseydao.com/
    • Twitter https://twitter.com/petergyang
    • Blog https://creatoreconomy.so/


    If you like this episode, check out our episode on the Lessons In Marketing Web 3 with Matthew Howells-Barby! https://link.chtbl.com/3x1YKGTI


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Winning Brands Play by Different Rules Jun 28, 2022
    Show notes

    How do you change the mindset and consideration of your customers around your business? Kipp and Kieran go deep on ALL things perception around your business. They discuss how to tell a transformational brand story, how to become the dominant player in your market, the importance of differentiated perception, the core lessons to change the perception of your business, and more!


    Plus! We answer YOUR questions. Shout out to Kishore Kothandaraman for leaving a review!

    Do you want to be the next featured listener question? Leave your questions in the reviews and we may feature you next.


    Links:

    • Eight Sleep https://www.eightsleep.com/
    • Goldcast.io https://www.goldcast.io/


    If you like this episode, check out our episode on 2x2s and how they can take your business to the next level! https://link.chtbl.com/bp45OmT5


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How to Beat the Recession Jun 23, 2022
    Show notes

    What brand was born in the recession and became one of the fastest-growing businesses in history? They turned down an offer from Google for $6 billion two years later. Kipp and Kieran go around the web and discuss the opportunities of short-form videos, best pricing strategies during a recession, tips for leaning into your best ideas, simplicity in storytelling, and more!


    Links:

    Groupon https://www.groupon.com/

    Descript https://www.descript.com/

    Andrew Mason, CEO of Descript https://twitter.com/andrewmason

    Alex Lieberman’s 60-second start-up video series https://twitter.com/businessbarista/status/1539601675081613312


    If you like this episode, check out our episode with Alex Lieberman! https://link.chtbl.com/HSVtL8Jt


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Marketing in Web3 with DAOs, NFTs and Tokens Jun 21, 2022
    Show notes

    How do you make a marketing plan when you don’t have the final say, your community does? Kipp and Kieran are joined by Matthew Howells-Barby (CMO of Decentralized Games) to discuss the difference between being a web 2 vs. web 3 marketer, the community of ownership, what marketers need to learn to succeed in web 3, and more!


    Who is Matthew Howells-Barby?

    CMO @ Decentral Games, previously VP @ HubSpot. Investor and advisor in web3.


    Check out Matthew’s work:

    • Decrypting Crypto Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/6zramVU9gIBnVmGbqxRjfR?si=c693a23aaa1f4cd1&nd=1
    • Twitter www.twitter.com/matthewbarby
    • LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/matthewbarby/


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Is Web 3 Coming? Jun 16, 2022
    Show notes

    Are Google and Facebook better today with the current level of advertising than they were 10 years ago? Kipp and Kieran take you on a deep dive through the future of web 3 and how it will impact the business world, the difficulty in reaching new customers (and how web 3 can help us), the importance of user experience, and more!


    Links:

    • Bankless Media Interview Marc Andreessen & Chris Dixon of a16z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXHITeaGB8Q
    • Benedict Evans’ tweet on Meta https://twitter.com/benedictevans/status/1530148497227489281


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Are You a Simplifier or a Complexifier? (The Power of a Great 2x2) Jun 14, 2022
    Show notes

    What is a 2x2 and how can it transform your business? Kipp and Kieran chat all things 2x2! What it is, how to come up with them, how you can use 2x2s when making hiring decisions, 3 ways they can transform your business, and more!


    Do you have a 2x2 you love? Leave it in the apple podcasts reviews and we will give you and your 2x2 a shoutout in an upcoming episode!


    Links:

    • World Bollard Association’s Twitter https://twitter.com/WorldBollard


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How Web 3 Will Impact Your Marketing Jun 09, 2022
    Show notes

    Why should marketers care about web 3? Kipp and Kieran discuss everything about web 3 and how it’ll impact your marketing and business, the opportunity of losing, how to push the envelope, how to make people care about your product (hint: solving their problems), and more!


    Links:

    • Packy McCormick’s apology https://twitter.com/packyM/status/1533796764922400768
    • Nick Susi’s tweet on what web 2 was and what web 3 needs to be https://twitter.com/nicksusi/status/1530600672982335492


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    The CMO Show. How to Find One. How to Be One. Jun 07, 2022
    Show notes

    The #1 question every founder asks us is: How do I hire my marketing leader? Kipp and Kieran go on a deep dive on how to categorize marketing leaders to your business needs, how to give your team the power to be successful in their roles, pitch real job postings to the audience (and give their hot takes on each), show how to pitch themselves to the founders as a candidate, and so much more!


    Do you have a job description that you want Kipp and Kieran to discuss (and potentially give their hot takes on)? Leave it in the reviews!


    Links:

    • Fl0’s Head of Marketing job posting https://jobs.lever.co/fl0/d17051f6-8934-4239-801c-f1dfc01546bc
    • Fl0’s founder, Dale Brett https://www.linkedin.com/in/dalebrett/
    • LoyaltyLion’s Chief Marketing Officer job posting https://loyaltylion.com/careers/chief-marketing-officer
    • LoyaltyLion’s founder, Charlie Casey https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliecasey/
    • Jake from Suncut: Podcast editing subscriptions to scale your show https://www.suncut.co/
    • Emma from ThoughtSpot: business intelligence analytics search software https://www.thoughtspot.com/
    • John Ladaga wants to buy Kieran’s Chess NFT https://twitter.com/jj_ladaga/status/1529841989188997121


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


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