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    Alternative Health

    Live Beyond the Norms

    You want to have a spectacular life.  You want to live longer as long as you are healthy mentally and physically.  
    This podcast has been a vision of mine for the last two and a half years.  As I continue to share with people the astounding results, 90% extension of life in test subjects, reported in peer-reviewed published research about our molecule ESS60, I started to think about what it would be like to live longer.  Not just longer, but ALOT longer.  I also started thinking about how living longer would disrupt the vision many people had about their lives and the final years of that life.  
    This podcast is big enough to cover all aspects of Living Beyond the Norms but it will start and probably focus on health and longevity and the cutting-edge research which promises significantly longer and healthier living.  It will also cover the unconventional strategies employed today by today’s experts to help people Live Beyond the Norms.

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    What 42 Million Americans Don’t Know About CIRS & Mold Toxicity Aug 14, 2025
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    Hidden Epidemic: What 42 Million Americans Don’t Know About Mold Toxicity & CIRS 🏠

    If you’re battling mysterious chronic symptoms (fatigue, brain fog, joint pain, mood changes) and can’t find answers, this episode is for you! 🧠💥

    Jenny Johnson, mold illness and CIRS recovery expert, joins Chris Burres to break down Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS), a condition affecting millions yet often misdiagnosed as stress, fibromyalgia, or chronic fatigue.

    In this eye-opening conversation, Jenny shares how biotoxins from mold, water-damaged buildings, or tick bites can trigger lifelong health issues—especially in those genetically unable to detox them. She dives deep into the Shoemaker Protocol, how to accurately screen for CIRS with 98.5% accuracy, and the steps to recover your health and reclaim your life.

    You’ll hear Jenny’s own jaw-dropping story of leaving suburbia for a self-sustaining farm—only to have that dream life backfire and lead her down the path of debilitating illness. Now fully recovered, she helps others avoid the same mistakes and heal.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    - What CIRS is and why it’s often mistaken for other conditions
    - The top biotoxin sources (hint: it’s not just mold!)
    - How to use the $15 screening tool with 98.5% accuracy
    - The evidence-based Shoemaker Protocol for recovery
    - Why traditional medical tests often miss CIRS
    - How to find hidden mold in your home (even when you can’t see it)
    - The connection between water-damaged buildings and chronic illness
    - How community and nervous system work support healing
    - Jenny’s favorite tools for long-term resilience and relapse prevention

    Ready to uncover the hidden cause of your symptoms?🎧

    Watch Jenny's FULL episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swxf8vnSk8M&t=3424s

    Free CIRS Mini Course: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.ck.page/mini

    Connect with Jenny Johnson:
    - Website: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/
    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirs.jennyjohnson/
    - Jenny's test for for CIRS: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.kit.com/cirs-screening

    Connect with Chris Burres:
    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/
    - Podcast: https://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/
    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/myvitalc/
    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc
    - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/myvitalc/
    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/

    👉 Subscribe and hit the bell to never miss our latest health and longevity episodes!

    #CIRS #MoldToxicity #ChronicIllness #ShoemakerProtocol #Biotoxins #MoldIllness #HealthRecovery #LongevityPodcast #ChronicFatigue #NaturalHealing #FunctionalMedicine


    Parasites, Mold, and the Silent Triggers Behind Chronic Illness: What You’re Not Being Told | Kim Rogers Aug 12, 2025
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    Support the show and get 50% off MCT oil with free shipping—just leave us a review on iTunes and let us know!
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-beyond-the-norms/id1714886566


    Persistent fatigue, anxiety, brain fog, and skin issues might not be random. What if your symptoms are coming from something inside your body that most doctors won’t even look for?


    In this episode, I’m talking with Kim Rogers, better known online as the Worm Queen. With over 18 years in Western medicine and more than half a million followers tracking her health journey, Kim brings a no-filter take on parasites, mold toxicity, and why chronic symptoms are often misdiagnosed or completely ignored.


    Kim shares her personal transformation story, from prepping for death in a trailer to rebuilding her health and launching a 10,000 sq ft parasite cleanse manufacturing facility. We get into what stool tests won’t show, how parasites manipulate your cravings, and what you need to know before taking that anti-parasitic that's going viral on TikTok.



    "Parasites are stealing up to 90% of your nutrients, leaving your body struggling to function." ~ Kim Rogers



    About Kim Rogers:

    Kim Rogers is a medical educator, researcher, and founder of RogersHood Apothecary. Known online as the “Worm Queen,” Kim has built a global following by exposing the truth behind parasites, chronic illness, and mold toxicity. After 13 surgeries and years of unanswered pain, she used her background in medical education to take matters into her own hands. Today, she runs one of the few US-based companies producing third-party tested herbal parasite cleanses and shipping worldwide.


    Connect with Kim Rogers:

    - Website: https://rogershood.com

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrsrogers.hood/

    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mrsrogershood


    Connect with Chris Burres:

    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/

    - Website: http://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisburres/

    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc

    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/


    Why Hydrogen Water May Be the Missing Link in Gut Health, Inflammation, and Energy Restoration Aug 08, 2025
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    Support the show and get 50% off MCT oil with free shipping—just leave us a review on iTunes and let us know!
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-beyond-the-norms/id1714886566


    Hydrogen water isn't just for elite athletes and biohackers anymore. If you've been struggling with chronic inflammation, gut dysfunction, or low energy, it’s time to consider what your body might be missing and why hydrogen could play a central role in fixing it.


    In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Paul Barattiero, a naturopathic doctor and pioneer in hydrogen water technology. He’s spent over two decades helping people reclaim health through restoring gut function, reducing oxidative stress, and supporting the body’s natural energy systems, all through hydrogen.


    We talk about the connection between hydrogen production and gut bacteria, what hydrogen actually does in the body, and how it’s showing results in everything from gluten sensitivity to glucose balance and even skin elasticity. Paul explains why hydrogen is different from other antioxidants, how it supports mitochondrial health, and why the delivery method makes all the difference.



    "Hydrogen is a signal modulator. It gets other things doing what they're supposed to properly, so then a lot of good things are happening in the body". ~ Dr. Paul Barattiero



    About Dr. Paul Barattiero:

    Dr. Paul Barattiero is the founder of Echo Water and a leading voice in hydrogen water science and its applications. With over 25 years in the health industry, he has helped thousands of individuals reduce inflammation, repair their gut, and improve their overall health using hydrogen water technologies. He’s built the world’s largest hydrogen water brand, trusted by athletes and wellness professionals globally.


    Connect with Dr. Paul Barattiero:

    - Website: https://www.echowater.com

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/echohydrogen

    - YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Echohydrogen


    Connect with Chris Burres:

    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/

    - Website: http://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisburres/

    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc

    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/


    How Ignoring Spinal Health Now Could Limit Your Life Later: What Most Miss About Posture, Pain, and Preventing Surgery Aug 05, 2025
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    Support the show and get 50% off MCT oil with free shipping—just leave us a review on iTunes and let us know!
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-beyond-the-norms/id1714886566


    Feeling fine doesn’t always mean you’re actually fine. When it comes to spinal health, most people don’t realize how much silent wear and tear is happening until it’s too late, and sometimes irreversible.


    In this episode, I sit down with Jason Gilbert, a spinal health expert who’s helped tens of thousands of clients, including elite athletes and everyday people, avoid surgery, reclaim movement, and reduce pain by focusing on early spinal diagnostics and functional rehab.


    Jason shares what most doctors overlook about chronic pain and disc injuries, why spinal degeneration starts way earlier than we think, and how walking might be the simplest game-changer for pain prevention and recovery.


    He breaks down what regular X-rays can reveal before symptoms strike, the danger of ignoring early signs, and how to build a sustainable movement plan that prevents long-term damage.


    "Any investment in health gives a 2000% return on their money." ~ Jason Gilbert



    About Jason Gilbert:

    Jason Gilbert is a leading authority on spinal health, movement, and post-surgical rehab. With over three decades of experience, he’s worked with elite athletes from the World Surf League, top chiropractors, and thousands of everyday clients looking to prevent surgery and extend their quality of life. Jason is the author of Stronger Every Day, and shares functional, movement-based health strategies through his online courses and speaking appearances.


    Connect with Jason Gilbert:

    - Website: https://jasongilbert.com.au

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasongilbertofficial

    - Post-Spinal Surgery Care Book: https://www.jasongilbertcourses.com.au/products/digital_downloads/spinal-surgery-recovery-guide



    Connect with Chris Burres:

    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/

    - Website: http://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisburres/

    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc

    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/


    What Doctors Miss About Heart Disease and Why “Normal” Labs Could Still Mean Plaque Is Forming in Your Arteries Aug 01, 2025
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    Support the show and get 50% off MCT oil with free shipping—just leave us a review on iTunes and let us know!
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-beyond-the-norms/id1714886566
    So many are told their labs look fine, only to get hit with a heart attack or stroke. That’s because most physicians aren’t trained to look for common indicators of heart disease risk in the early stages, such as inflammation, insulin resistance, endothelial dysfunction, and silent plaque progression.
    In this episode, I sit down with cardiometabolic nutritionist Michelle Routhenstein to break down what’s missing in traditional heart health advice. Michelle walks us through the lab numbers that matter most, how your gut and bowel habits relate to cholesterol, and why erectile dysfunction may be an early warning sign.
    She’ll open your eyes to why eating “clean” doesn’t equal heart-healthy, why so many are misled by low-carb and keto trends, and how to stop arterial plaque from accumulating silently for decades before the first event strikes.


    "No matter where you are, no matter your age, no matter what you look like, heart disease does not discriminate between underweight and overweight." ~ Michelle Routhenstein
    About Michelle Routhenstein:
    Michelle is a preventive cardiology nutritionist and the founder of Entirely Nourished, a practice dedicated to reducing cardiovascular risk through evidence-based, personalized nutrition. She holds a master’s in clinical nutrition, is a member of the Forbes Health Advisory Board, and the author of The Truly Easy Heart Healthy Cookbook. Michelle has spent her career working with heart failure specialists, lipidologists, and cardiologists to create a unique nutrition-first approach that empowers clients to take control before disease strikes.


    Connect with Michelle Routhenstein
    - Website: https://entirelynourished.com
    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heart.health.nutritionist
    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellerouthenstein/


    Connect with Chris Burres:
    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/
    - Website: http://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/
    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisburres/
    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc
    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/




    What 42 Million Americans Don’t Know About CIRS and Mold Toxicity: Jenny Johnson Breaks Down Symptoms, Causes, and Recovery Jul 29, 2025
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    Support the show and get 50% off MCT oil with free shipping—just leave us a review on iTunes and let us know!
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-beyond-the-norms/id1714886566


    Brain fog, unexplained fatigue, chronic gut issues, and mood swings that don't add up to a clear diagnosis? There's a strong chance that you, or someone close, could be facing chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS) without knowing it.


    In this episode, I sit down with Jenny Johnson, a practitioner and expert in biotoxin illness and CIRS, to uncover what’s causing this silent epidemic. From genetic susceptibility and mold exposure to long-term inflammation and brain dysfunction, we explore what’s hiding inside your home and your body that might be sabotaging your health.


    You’ll hear Jenny’s personal journey, the signs to look for, and how to begin healing.



    “ There are about 37 million Americans who are diagnosed with diabetes, and 17 million with cancer. I just said 42 million are probably walking around with CIRS." ~ Jenny Johnson




    About Jenny Johnson:

    Jenny Johnson is a physical therapist, functional medicine health coach, and CIRS expert with a biology degree from Duke University and a master’s in physical therapy from the University of Colorado, Denver. After her family’s health crisis caused by mold exposure, she became a faculty member of the CIRSx Institute and a key voice at Salugenex, a health company focused on optimizing cellular function through innovative diagnostics and regenerative therapies. Jenny’s certifications in the Shoemaker Protocol, Bredesen Protocol, and HeartMath, combined with her personal experience, make her a trusted guide for those navigating chronic illness and seeking vibrant health.



    Connect with Jenny Johnson:

    - Website: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com

    - Website: https://salugenex.com

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirs.jennyjohnson/

    - YouTube (CIRS): https://www.youtube.com/@CIRSJennyJohnson

    - YouTube (Salugenex): https://www.youtube.com/@salugenex-videos




    Connect with Chris Burres:

    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/

    - Website: http://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisburres/

    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc

    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/


    How Stress Addiction Sabotages Your Hormones, Energy, and Focus: Mariza Snyder on Cortisol Dysregulation, Burnout, and Breaking the Survival Cycle for Better Health Jul 25, 2025
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    Support the show and get 50% off MCT oil with free shipping—just leave us a review on iTunes and let us know!
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-beyond-the-norms/id1714886566



    That constant state of 'go, go, go' feels productive, even powerful, until one day you realize the engine you've been running on is actually your own survival instinct. The very drive that pushes you to succeed might be steering you directly toward burnout, hormonal chaos, and chronic stress.


    My guest today, Dr. Mariza Snyder, knows this cycle intimately. She spent years running from childhood trauma, channeling that energy into becoming a hyper-efficient, top-achieving machine. This state of constant alert dysregulated her entire system, leading to the same symptoms of fatigue, anxiety, and weight gain she saw in her perimenopausal patients. Except she was only 30.


    In today’s episode, we explore how childhood experiences can wire our brains for a lifetime of hustle, why this leads to addiction to stress hormones like cortisol, and the deep mindset work required to finally get off the hamster wheel. You’ll learn how to spot the signs of a dysregulated system and reclaim your calm with some powerful, in-the-moment tools.


    "When you activate that stress response system many times a day to become more efficient in life, it's going to wear and tear on you." ~ Dr. Mariza Snyder


    About Dr. Mariza Snyder:
    Dr. Mariza Snyder is a functional practitioner, perimenopause and menopause expert, and the voice behind the top-rated Energized podcast with over 12 million downloads. Her bestselling book, The Essential Oils Hormone Solution, boasts 1200+ five-star reviews, and she’s been featured on The Dr. Oz Show and The Oprah Magazine. With a background as a biomechanical engineer at Lawrence Livermore National Labs, she now empowers women to break free from chronic stress and hormonal chaos through lifestyle medicine and intentional living.


    Connect with Dr. Mariza Snyder:

    - Website: https://drmariza.com

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drmariza/

    - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drmarizasnyder

    - YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/drmarizasnyder

    - Podcast: Energized: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/energized-with-dr-mariza/id1361914055

    - Upcoming Book (Oct 2025): The Perimenopause Revolution



    Connect with Chris Burres:

    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/

    - Website: http://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisburres/

    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc

    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/



    Beyond Aphrodisiacs: Why Oysters May Be the Best Hormone Hack Ever Jul 24, 2025
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    Why Oysters Might Be the Secret to Hormone Balance, Period Relief, and Immune Health!

    Are oysters the missing link in your wellness routine? 🦪

    In this powerhouse episode, board-certified holistic nutritionist Jade Mesquita joins Chris Burres to explore how whole food minerals (especially from oysters) can radically shift your hormones, relieve period pain, and supercharge your immune system.

    From period cramps and restless leg syndrome to burnout from plant-based diets, Jade shares her personal transformation, and the science behind why zinc-rich oysters may outperform isolated supplements. You’ll learn how low stomach acid, poor absorption, and mineral imbalances could be quietly draining your energy and vitality.

    Jade also dives into her Gut Revive protocol—a 4-month program that begins with GI Map testing and leads to deep detox, healing, and long-term lifestyle change.

    💡 We cover:

    - Why oysters are nature’s multi-mineral powerhouse
    - How zinc deficiency contributes to hormonal issues and cramps
    - The importance of stomach acid and proper digestion
    - Why synthetic supplements may do more harm than good
    - What to know about balancing copper with zinc
    - How to test for gut dysfunction and build true health from within
    - Why your diet might be "perfect" but still not working

    👉 Subscribe for more cutting-edge insights into natural health and longevity.

    Connect with Jade Mesquita:
    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eternalorigins_/

    Connect with Chris Burres:
    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/
    - Podcast: https://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/
    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/myvitalc/
    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc
    - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/myvitalc/
    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/


    How “Eating the Rainbow” Can Fix Cellular Starvation & Why 99% of People Are Nutrient Deficient | Ryan Encinas on Carotenoids, Bio-Photonics & The Truth About Your Diet Jul 22, 2025
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    Support the show and get 50% off MCT oil with free shipping—just leave us a review on iTunes and let us know!
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-beyond-the-norms/id1714886566


    Airplanes and operating rooms don’t usually have much in common, but for Ryan Encinas, both are launchpads into transformation.


    Before co-founding a health optimization platform and pioneering the use of the BioPhotonic Scanner, Ryan spent years inside surgical suites, navigating everything from tumor removals to joint replacements. But it wasn’t the procedures that shook him—it was the broken system behind them. He saw how medicine often overlooked the root cause of cellular dysfunction from toxicity and nutrient deficiency.


    So he made a shift. A big one.


    Now, Ryan’s all about color, not just metaphorically, but biochemically. Specifically, carotenoids. These colorful compounds found in everything from blueberries to marigolds are key to measuring cellular health, immune resilience, and long-term vitality. Ryan walks us through how his team has done over 28 million non-invasive antioxidant scans, what those results mean, and why 99% of people are nutritionally starving at the cellular level.


    In this episode, Ryan and I dive into how stress alters physiology, why mindset matters as much as minerals, and what it means to radically own your health. You’ll also learn why humans should pay attention to how plants use color as a survival strategy.



    “ When we measure people's carotenoid antioxidant status, which we've done 28 million tests, 99% of people don't measure up. 99% of the population is starving at the cellular level.” ~ Ryan Encinas



    About Ryan Encinas:

    Ryan Encinas is a former surgical nurse turned metabolic health strategist and the co-founder of Holistic Hub. He’s on a mission to revolutionize healthcare by putting nutrition first. Through his work with the BioPhotonic Scanner—a physics-based, non-invasive device that instantly measures cellular antioxidant status—he’s helping practitioners and patients track real-time health at the cellular level. His approach blends ancient wisdom, quantum physics, and a relentless belief in human potential.



    Connect with Ryan Encinas:

    - Website: holistichub.gethealthyusa.com

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_holistic_hub/

    - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Holistic-Hub/100088374433221



    Connect with Chris Burres:

    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/

    - Website: http://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisburres/

    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc

    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/


    How One Biohacker is Reversing His Biological Age Using Data, Blood Labs, and Radical Self-Experimentation | Dave Pascoe on Telomeres, Thyroid Hacks & Beating the Rejuvenation Olympics Jul 18, 2025
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    Support the show and get 50% off MCT oil with free shipping—just leave us a review on iTunes and let us know!

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-beyond-the-norms/id1714886566


    No one accidentally beats Bryan Johnson at the Rejuvenation Olympics—unless you’re Dave Pascoe. What started with a few blood labs quickly turned into a full-blown system of hormone tuning, data tracking, and precise optimization. He’s not just aging slower. His biological age is 24 years younger than his real age.


    Dave is a longevity-focused biohacker who treats his body like an engineering system. At 62, his biological age clocks in at just 38, and he’s achieved it without a medical team, a trust fund, or a warehouse of tech. What he does have is a rigorous protocol, a deep understanding of blood chemistry, and a habit of challenging outdated medical assumptions.


    In this episode, Dave and I talk about how growing up with low self-esteem shaped his obsession with self-research, why most blood lab reference ranges are misleading, and how he utilizes monthly testing to fine-tune every variable that matters. We also dig into why stress once crushed his biological age score, and how he’s now outperforming some of the most famous names in the biohacking world while spending under $15K a year.


    “Why would I want to be average for a population of sick people?” ~ Dave Pascoe


    About Dave Pascoe:

    Dave Pascoe is a longevity-focused biohacker, data analyst, and self-experimenter whose current biological age clocks in at 38 years old, despite being over 62 chronologically. He’s one of the top-ranked participants in the Rejuvenation Olympics and an outspoken advocate for using regular bloodwork, self-tracking, and science-backed interventions to slow aging, optimize health, and boost performance. His approach is methodical, skeptical, and rooted in real-world outcomes, not hype.


    Connect with Dave Pascoe:

    - Website: https://www.davepascoe.net

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dave.pascoe

    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-pascoe-6617693/


    Connect with Chris Burres:

    - Website: https://www.myvitalc.com/

    - Website: http://www.livebeyondthenorms.com/

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisburres/

    - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myvitalc

    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisburres/


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