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    Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

    Welcome to our podcast!

    My name is Richard H. Ostler and I am a native of Salt Lake City, small business owner, married father of six with several grandchildren. I believe in and am deeply committed to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and want it to work for a wider group.
    I am the author of three books:

    “Listen Learn and Love: Embracing LGBTQ Latter-day Saints” published in 2020 available at Amazon (amazon.com/dp/1462135773)

    “Listen Learn and Love: Improving Latter-day Saint Culture” published in 2022. The book explores who we can do better to help all Latter-day Saints feel more welcome, needed and a feeling of belonging in our congregations. Available at Amazon (amazon.com/dp/1462139566)

    “Listen Learn and Love: Building the Good Ship Zion” released in Sept 2023. The book explores additional topics to help all Latter-day Saint feel welcome and needed on the Good Ship Zion. Available at Amazon (amazon.com/dp/1462145280)

    The purpose of all three books is to help us better create Zion by helping more feel welcome, a sense of belonging, and needed in our congregations.

    Proceed from the books go the Stockton Power Memorial Scholarship (www.standingforstockton.com) in honor of Stockton Powers a gay Latter-day Saint teenager who died of suicide in 2016. Everything I do is a self-funded labor of love ❤️

    I am the author of two Ensign articles:

    ‘How the Savior’s Healing Power Applies to Repenting from Sexual Sin’ (August 2020/YSA Digital Only) www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2020/08/young-adults/how-the-saviors-healing-power-applies-to-repenting-from-sexual-sin

    ‘7 Tips for Overcoming Pornography Use’ (October, page 72) www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2020/10/young-adults/7-tips-for-overcoming-pornography-use.

    This podcast is designed to discuss some more complicated issues in our church to help all of us better “listen, learn and love” so we can minister in a more effective way to all of our Heavenly Parents’ children.

    Podcasts are indexed by category at listenlearnandlove.org/podcasts

    Thank you for joining us. You can’t donate to this podcast. There are no sponsors. But you can leave a review/rate the podcast on the platform you are listening and/or leave a review at Deseret Book/Amazon on my books.

    With love, Richard ‘Papa’ Ostler ❤

    Twitter: twitter.com/Papa_Ostler
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    E-mail: richard@ostlergroup.com

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    Episode 439: Geoffrey Pears, Gay Latter-day Saint, PhD candidate at Rice, Sunday School Talk Aug 13, 2021
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    My friend Geoffrey Pears (Masters in Accounting from BYU, RM from the Philippines) joins us to share the talk he gave in his YSA Ward in Houston about his journey as a gay Latter-day Saint. It is a deeply moving, honest and vulnerable talk. Geoffrey does a great job taking us into the life of a gay member of the Church. I am glad that his Bishop and ward leadership helped to create Zion by asking Geoffrey to give this powerful talk. You can listen to Geoffrey’s talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLg0ZaKRNEI or read it here: https://bit.ly/3lqgC5u I encourage everyone to listen and share this powerful podcast. Thank you for being on the podcast Geoffrey and for all your wondering insights to help us better support our LGBTQ members and come together as the same human family. ** Please Check Out My Book At: ** Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-and-love-embracing-lgbtq-latter-day-saints Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1462135773

    Episode 438: Jordan Jackson, LGBTQUT.com Aug 10, 2021
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    My friend Jordan Jackson (who shared his story in episode 246) joins us to talk about his new LGBTQ resource guide, LGBTQUT.com. Jordan talks about how the guide helps connect LGBTQ individuals, parents with LGBTQ children, and allies to resources in Utah—something Jordan wishes he had 4 years ago when we came out. Please listen to this podcast and check out LGBTQUT.com. Thank you Jordan for being on the podcast and all the good you do to bring us together.

    Episode 436: Kurt Nielsen, Gay Latter-day Saints, Creating Zion Aug 04, 2021
    Show notes

    My friend Kurt Nielsen (who was episode 147) updates us on his journey and insights as a gay Latter-day Saint. Kurt, who is active in the Church, shares insights on what we can do to better create Zion by seeing and involving our LGBTQ members. Kurt also talks about the need to belong and how some considering separating themselves from the Church are not having a belief crisis but a belonging crisis. Kurt is very good with words and stories from his own life to help us better understand. I encourage everyone to listen to the podcast. Thank you my friend Kurt for all the good you do. You are one of my heroes and a wonderful human, family man and disciple of Christ. ** Please Check Out My Book At: ** Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-and-love-embracing-lgbtq-latter-day-saints Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1462135773Episode

    Episode 435: Will Sintyl, Age 18, Bisexual Latter-day Saint Aug 01, 2021
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    My friend Will Sintyl, who grew up in Haiti and has lived in Utah for the last 4 years, shares his story. Will, who recently graduated from High School, shares coming out to family and friends as bisexual. Will talks about knowing he was bisexual for many years, why he needed to come out and his hopes for the future. Will also talks about how his relationship with the Church is even stronger since coming out. You can find Will on Instagram @will_sintyl Thanks for being on the podcast Will! You are a great man with a wonderful future! ** Please Check Out My Book At: ** Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-and-love-embracing-lgbtq-latter-day-saints Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1462135773

    Episode 434: Mason Dimond (Early Release Missionary) and Luke Davenport (Service Missionary) Jul 29, 2021
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    Our good family friends Mason Dimond and Luke Davenport join us to share their stories. Luke updates us on his service mission that ends in late July—thank you for your service Elder Davenport! Please listen to Episode 228 for more of Luke’s story. Mason, in one of the bravest moments on our podcast, shares what led him to come home from his mission after 5 weeks. Mason, who left for his mission in July 2019, talks about being at the Mexico MTC and his emotional health deteriorating to a very unsustainable place. Mason, with no history of mental health issues, found himself in uncharted waters and bravely did what he needed to do—go home and heal. Mason talks about the process to leave the Mexico MTC and the feelings of failure as he returned home. Mason, who has been home nearly two years, talks about the steps he took (and the help of others like his good family and friens like Luke Davenport) to be in a much better place. Mason also talks about why he still has a strong testimony of the Church and is looking forward to his upcoming temple marriage. If you are an early release missionary or anyone working through mental health challenges, please listen to Mason’s story. He will give you hope that things are going to be OK. And, if you want to better understand why some incredible faithful and committed Latter-day Saints return home from their mission early, please listen to Mason’s story. Thank you Mason and Luke for being on the podcast. Your story will help so many. Respect my friends!

    Episode 433: Blake Hogge, Noted Wedding Photographer, RM, Gay Latter-Day Saint, Jul 26, 2021
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    My friend Blake Hogge shares his story as a gay Latter-day Saint. Blake shares knowing his was “different” before his successful mission to Tampa, Florida (Haitian Creole), decided to stop dating women, developing his very successful wedding photographer business (check out @blakehogge on IG), coming out to friends and family, starting to date men, and staying close to his Heavenly Father. Blake has a remarkable story that helps all of us better understand and support each other—and keep us together as the same human family. I was deeply moved by his good spirit, support of all people on their respective paths and wonderful insights. Thank you Blake for being on the podcast. You are helping so many with your profession and sharing your story. You have a great life ahead of you. ** Please Check Out My Book At: ** Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-and-love-embracing-lgbtq-latter-day-saints Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1462135773

    Episode 432: Calvin Smith, RM, BYU Grad, Gay, Active LDS, Plans to Marry a Man and Attend Church Jul 23, 2021
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    My friend Calvin Smith (RM from Mozambique and Swaziland, BYU Grad in Teaching Social Sciences) bravely shares his story as a gay Latter-Day Saint. Calvin talks about his younger years, great mission experience, realizing marrying a woman isn’t going to be possible, becoming suicidal with the complexities of his situation, good family and friends, and finding hope and healing. Calvin talks about dating men and has great insights for others on this road. He also talks about his excellent relationship with his Heavenly Parents and the Savior and the personal revelation he is receiving for his best path forward. Calvin also talks about wanting to participate in the Church as much as the church will allow even if his church membership is withdrawn. Thank you Calvin for courage to share your story and help us know how to better understand and support our LGBTQ members. You have great spiritual insights, maturity and a desire to help others. You have a great life ahead of you and this podcast will help so many. Thank you for sharing your story. ** Please Check Out My New Book At: ** Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-and-love-embracing-lgbtq-latter-day-saints Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1462135773

    Episode 431: Raini Stock, RM, Faith Crisis, Mental Health, Garments, Returning to Church Jul 20, 2021
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    My friend Raini Stock (RM from Colorado Springs and getting her Master’s in school counseling from Idaho State University), shares her journey to stay a member of our Church. Raini shares the challenges she faced after her mission while at school at BYU-Idaho and not fitting in or feeling a sense of belong at times in our Church. Raini shares being uncomfortable about garment wearing (not from a religious issues, but a practical challenge) and also her mental health challenges. Raini shares how she found Rosemary Card and Dr Julie Hanks and how these two committed Latter-day Saints helps Raini to know there are people like her in the church—who are needed and helping others in wonderful and unique ways. If you don’t feel like you fit the mold, are uncomfortable about some aspects of our church, or have had a difficult leader experience, please listen to Raini’s story. She will help you to feel not alone and give you hope for your future. Raini has also started a podcast called Young Flirty and Not Thriving (available now on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and Podbean). Check out @youngflirtyandnotthriving on IG for updates.

    Episode 430: Lincoln Bagley, RM, Home for Worthiness, Faith Crisis, Back Out, Finished Strong Jul 17, 2021
    Show notes

    My friend Lincoln Bagley bravely shares his unique mission (Peru, home for a year, Utah, Peru and Colorado) which covered three years from his call to returning home in May 2021. Lincoln talks about being sent home from his mission because of prior worthiness and a difficult experience his Mission President, feeling his was going to leave the church because “could not measure up”, being home for a year where he grieved and then healed, serving again about being assigned to Utah where he got treatment for scrupulosity, going to Peru and then reassigned to Colorado when Peru closed with Covid. Lincoln talks about healing from a difficult leader experience, deconstructing and then reconstructing his testimony, why he stays a member of the Church, the unique way he served the people of Colorado and his outreach to marginalized members of the Church. You can read more of Lincoln’s story here: https://www.facebook.com/100044382798931/posts/215979476558144/ https://www.facebook.com/100044382798931/posts/277993347023423/ I’m grateful for Lincoln for the courage to share his story and all the good he did on his mission. It is people like Lincoln that give me hope for the future our Church and world. Thank you Lincoln for being on the podcast and for being you!

    Episode 429: Dr. Christy Kane, Author: Fractured Souls and Splintered Memories Jul 14, 2021
    Show notes

    My friend, Dr. Christy Kane who has a PhD in clinical psychology, joins us to talk about her new book Fractured Souls and Splintered Memories: Unlocking the Boxes of Trauma (https://www.amazon.com/Fractured-Souls-Splintered-Memories-Unlocking/dp/1462140327). Dr Kane’s book and clinical practice is focused on improving our mental health including identifying and working through trauma. In the podcast, Dr. Kane talks about why therapy is important, how we can talk about mental health in a more effective way, what is trauma and how we can help others to heal. If you want better insights and tools to solve the trauma in your life and help others, please read Dr Kane’s book and listen to this podcast. Her insights were very helpful to me and I believe will help you. Thank you Dr, Kane for being on the podcast and all your great work. You can connect with Dr Kane at drchristykane.com and on Instagram @dr.christykane

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