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    Liberty Spenders™

    Join Kurt and Kristen, founders of Liberty Spenders™, on a groundbreaking podcast that unveils the secrets to tapping into the immense potential of the faith-based conservative market. With an estimated $5 trillion in annual spending power, this loyal and engaged consumer base represents a golden opportunity for businesses seeking rapid growth and increased customer loyalty.

    In each episode, Kurt and Kristen share their deep insights and proven strategies for authentically connecting with the Liberty Spender audience. Drawing from their extensive experience in political campaigns and their unique, data-driven approach, they guide listeners through the 5 Ps process: People, Positioning, Passion, Proof, and Product Launch.

    Whether you’re looking to expand your reach, overcome growth plateaus, or differentiate yourself in a crowded market, this podcast is your roadmap to success. Discover how to craft compelling stories that resonate emotionally with your target audience, test and validate your marketing messages, and execute tailored product rollout plans that leverage Kurt and Kristen’s extensive network within the conservative ecosystem.

    Tune in to the Liberty Spenders podcast and unlock the power of this influential and lucrative market. Subscribe now and join the silent but strong majority that is driving the future of American business.

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    Your Team Sees the Problem. Why Aren't They Telling You? | Susan Schramm Oct 21, 2026
    Show notes

    What if avoiding conversations about risk is actually creating more risk for your business, team, or mission?

    Kristen Luidhardt sits down with strategic advisor, speaker, and author Susan Schram to explore why faith and risk are not opposites, and why courageous leaders need to make space for honest conversations about uncertainty.

    Susan brings decades of experience leading global initiatives at companies including IBM and Nokia, and now works through Go to Market Impact with CEOs, boards, investors, nonprofits, and faith-based leaders to pressure-test important ideas before they stall or fail.

    She explains why faith does not eliminate risk, but instead reframes how leaders approach it. She shares how underestimating the “people side” of risk can derail even strong strategies, why teams often avoid difficult conversations, and how leaders can build greater trust by openly discussing what might go wrong before problems surface.

    They also unpack Susan’s six principles for pressure-testing a big idea, including clarifying why and why now, validating why you, identifying who must act, challenging assumptions, planning for multiple scenarios, and developing leaders who can adapt when circumstances change.

    Susan also shares a practical “pre-mortem” exercise leaders can use to uncover hidden risks before launching an initiative.

    Key Takeaways


    00:00 Why Not Talking About Risk Is Risky

    00:36 Meet Susan Schram

    02:05 Faith and Risk Belong Together

    03:32 Why God Calls Us to Plan

    05:46 Why Big Ideas Stall

    07:09 The People Side of Risk

    08:33 Why Teams Avoid Risk Conversations

    11:03 Learning From a Failed Product Launch

    14:14 Courageous Leaders Talk About Risk

    16:14 Pressure-Testing High-Stakes Initiatives

    17:59 Susan’s Six Risk Principles

    20:56 Challenge Your Assumptions

    22:22 Ask “What If?” Before Launching

    25:17 When Success Creates New Risk

    28:17 Building Resilience Through Scenario Planning

    30:03 How to Start the Risk Conversation

    32:43 Fast Track Your Big Idea

    33:43 The Pre-Mortem Exercise

    35:35 What a Life Well Lived Looks Like

    36:37 Using AI to Process Difficult Moments

    39:04 Who Susan Helps

    40:34 Protecting Your Next Big Idea


    Resources


    Fast Track Your Big Idea

    https://gotomarketimpact.com/book/


    Go to Market Impact

    https://gotomarketimpact.com/


    U.S. Christian Chamber of Commerce

    https://uschristianchamber.com/


    Liberty Builders Exchange

    https://business.uschristianchamber.com/events/Details/liberty-builders-exchange-dinner-at-swc-2026-1700626?sourceTypeId=Hub


    Susan Schramm's Risk System for Impact

    https://gotomarketimpact.com/about-us/

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    You're Losing Business Every Time You Explain What You Do | Steve Woodruff Oct 14, 2026
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    What if the way you introduce yourself is actually making people less interested in what you do?

    Kurt Luidhardt sits down with clarity consultant, author, and entrepreneur Steve Woodruff to explore why traditional elevator pitches fall flat and how a simple, memorable message can open the door to better conversations, referrals, and opportunities. Steve shares his Memory Dart approach, the curse of knowledge, and why trying to say too much is one of the biggest communication mistakes entrepreneurs make.

    They also discuss discovering your unique identity, using clarity to make better business and career decisions, the power of words in marriage and relationships, Steve’s work with entrepreneurs, and why his focus has shifted from building his own success to helping the next generation succeed.


    Key Takeaways

    00:00 Why the Elevator Pitch Is Dead

    00:43 Meet the King of Clarity, Steve Woodruff

    04:26 The Memory Dart Approach to Introductions

    06:44 Going Deeper with a Clarity Makeover

    08:23 The Curse of Knowledge and Why We Say Too Much

    11:09 How Great Communicators Make Ideas Memorable

    12:50 How Clarity Can Change a Career

    15:09 Steve’s Journey to Becoming a Clarity Consultant

    18:35 Why Clarity Makes It Easier to Say No

    21:04 The Power of Words in Marriage and Relationships

    28:57 Helping Entrepreneurs Clarify Their Message

    31:06 Clarity Wins and The Point

    33:33 Shifting from Success to Legacy

    35:30 What a Life Well Lived Looks Like

    39:02 Who Steve Helps and How to Connect


    Resources


    Steve’s website

    https://www.stevewoodruff.com/ stevewoodruff.com


    Clarity Wins

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/1732857105 amazon.com


    The Point

    https://orderthepoint.carrd.co/ orderthepoint.carrd.co


    Nashville Entrepreneur Center

    https://www.ec.co/ LinkedIn


    Steve Woodruff on LinkedIn

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/swoodruff/


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    What If God Is Waiting for You to Stop Chasing the Wrong Person? | Molly Gomez Oct 07, 2026
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    What if your biggest business advantage is a story you have not learned how to tell yet?

    Kurt Luidhardt sits down with former television reporter and story strategist Molly Gomez to explore how founders and leaders can turn their lived experience into a powerful business asset.

    Molly breaks down her Seven Story System, explains why trust matters more than ever in the age of AI, and shares how authentic storytelling can build buyer confidence before the sales call even begins.

    They also discuss faith, overcoming fear and self doubt, Molly’s journey from television news to entrepreneurship, and learning to trust God through seasons of uncertainty and change.


    Key Takeaways

    00:00 How Molly Knew She Had Found Her Husband

    00:41 Meet Story Strategist Molly Gomez

    01:18 Why Most Businesses Have a Story Problem

    03:23 You Do Not Need Trauma to Have a Powerful Story

    05:18 Overcoming the Fear of Other People’s Opinions

    06:41 How Storytelling Can Transform a Business

    09:24 Breaking Down the Seven Story System

    12:25 Why Trust Matters More in the Age of AI

    15:41 From Television Reporter to Entrepreneur

    20:17 Why Women Struggle to Own Their Stories

    23:38 How Faith Changed Molly’s Approach to Marriage

    29:52 Trusting God Through Uncertainty and Change

    33:42 Turning Your Past Into a Strategic Asset

    36:19 The Legacy of Helping People Heal Their Voice

    39:21 Why Your Story Is the Strategy


    Resources


    Molly on LinkedIn

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/molly-gomez/


    Seven Story System

    https://seven-story-system.signaturestoryco.com/


    Signature Story Co

    https://www.signaturestoryco.com/


    Language of Dominion

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H3QX89LP


    Blueprints of Dominion

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FH6VZH78


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    They Used AI to Turn Every Word of the Bible Into Music | Michael Blanton Sep 30, 2026
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    What does it take to recognize great talent before the rest of the world sees it?

    In this conversation, Kurt Luidhardt sits down with legendary music executive, producer, and entrepreneur Michael Blanton, whose career has helped shape Christian music through his work with artists including Amy Grant, Michael W. Smith, and Rich Mullins.

    Michael shares the stories behind Age to Age, “Friends,” “Awesome God,” and Amy Grant’s crossover success with Heart in Motion. He also explains how the same instincts he used to develop artists now help businesses discover their unique value, strengthen their brands, and reach new audiences.

    The conversation also explores faith, family, changing technology, AI, and Michael’s involvement with the Music Bible, an ambitious project turning Scripture into music verse by verse.


    Key Takeaways

    00:00 Creating the First Music Bible With AI

    00:35 Meet Michael Blanton

    01:50 How Michael Helped Develop Amy Grant’s Career

    05:28 The Album That Changed Everything for Amy Grant

    07:09 Discovering Michael W. Smith and the Story Behind “Friends”

    10:14 Rich Mullins and the Story Behind “Awesome God”

    11:49 What Michael Looks for When Discovering Talent

    13:26 Turning a Struggling Artist Into a Pop Success

    15:40 Pursuing Entertainment Without Compromising Faith

    17:13 Taking Amy Grant Into Mainstream Pop Music

    17:49 How Heart in Motion Became a Breakthrough Album

    23:40 Applying Music Industry Lessons to Business and Branding

    25:13 Helping an Established Radio Brand Embrace Podcasting

    26:17 Finding and Naming a Business’s “Secret Sauce”

    28:54 How Michael Found His Way Into the Music Industry

    31:28 How the Music Industry Has Changed for Independent Artists

    34:11 Why Businesses Often Get Too Close to Their Own Brand

    37:06 Why Family Became Michael’s Definition of Success

    38:53 The Daily Faith Practice That Keeps Michael Grounded

    54:29 Michael’s Next Chapter With Blanton Entertainment and the Music Bible


    Resources


    Blanton Entertainment

    https://blantonentertainment.com


    The Music Bible

    https://www.themusicbible.org


    Word Records

    https://www.curb.com/word-records/


    Reunion Records

    https://www.providentlabelgroup.com


    Amy Grant

    https://www.amygrant.com


    Michael W. Smith

    https://michaelwsmith.com


    Rich Mullins

    https://www.richmullins.com


    Age to Age – Amy Grant

    https://music.apple.com/us/album/age-to-age/727497027


    Heart in Motion – Amy Grant

    https://shop.amygrant.com/products/heart-in-motion-30th-anniversary-double-disc-cd


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    AI Is Making Your Competitive Advantage Disappear | Dusty Holcomb Sep 23, 2026
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    In this conversation, Kurt and Kristen Luidhardt talk with Dusty Holcomb, founder of Arcus Group, leadership advisor, former CEO, and host of the Leadership Unlock podcast. Drawing on nearly three decades of experience, Dusty shares how AI is reshaping business, leadership, and the future of competitive advantage.

    Dusty argues that AI itself is not the biggest challenge—leadership is. As new tools become more accessible, organizations must learn how to use them strategically rather than simply chase the latest trends.

    He introduces the idea of extracting "signal from noise," helping leaders focus on meaningful opportunities instead of endless distractions.

    The conversation explores why AI will not replace great leaders but instead amplify their strengths—or expose their weaknesses. As excellence becomes easier to achieve, Dusty believes the real differentiators will be uniquely human qualities such as judgment, trust, relationships, and the ability to connect seemingly unrelated ideas.

    Beyond AI, Dusty reflects on his leadership journey, lessons from servant leadership, the decision to leave the CEO role and launch Arcus Group, and how faith has shaped his approach to calling and decision-making.

    If you're trying to understand how AI will impact your organization, your leadership, or your future opportunities, this conversation offers practical insights and a thoughtful reminder that the most valuable advantage may still be the human one.

    Key Takeaways

    00:00 AI, Leadership & Signal From Noise

    00:47 Meet Dusty Holcomb

    04:22 The AI Questions Every CEO Is Asking

    08:02 Leading AI Like a Team Member

    15:53 Will AI Replace Experts?

    19:24 New Opportunities Created by AI

    20:31 AI Will Amplify or Expose Leaders

    23:09 Finding Competitive Advantages

    30:19 When Excellence Becomes the Baseline

    31:42 The Human Advantage

    37:56 Dusty's Leadership Journey

    40:10 Leaving the CEO Role

    41:26 Hearing God's Direction

    45:58 Clarity, Alignment & Execution

    49:38 Defining a Life Well Lived

    52:50 Helping Leaders Navigate Change


    Resources

    Arcqus Group

    https://arcqusgroup.com/


    Leadership Unlocked Podcast

    https://arcqusgroup.com/podcast/


    LinkedIn

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustyholcomb/


    Rules of Engagement Leadership Framework

    https://myrulesofengagement.com/


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    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXn-vzlA03r59neWZD0ofJA

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    How to Raise More Money by Building Better Donor Relationships | E.Paul Bigham Sep 16, 2026
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    What if the biggest thing holding back your nonprofit fundraising isn't a lack of money, but the way you're thinking about your donors?

    In this conversation, Kurt Luidhardt talks with nonprofit fundraising and marketing strategist Paul Bigham about how organizations can raise more money by shifting from a scarcity mindset to an abundance mindset and building stronger relationships with the people who support their mission.

    Paul has helped organizations raise more than $3.2 billion and explains why successful fundraising starts by making the donor the focus of your message.

    Paul shares the story of helping a nonprofit grow from 17,500 active donors and a $5 million annual budget to 500,000 active donors and a $126 million budget.

    He explains why organizations need systems for attracting, nurturing, appreciating, and retaining donors instead of only communicating when they need money.

    The conversation also explores the continued power of direct mail. Paul shares an example where the same donor audience generated $15 million online compared with $80 million through direct mail over the same six month period.

    He explains why digital and direct mail should work together, why attribution can be misleading, and why organizations shouldn't decide on behalf of donors when they've heard from them enough.

    Paul also reflects on his unconventional path into nonprofit fundraising, including the layoff that ultimately led to three new clients and became a turning point in his career.

    He discusses mentorship, faith, relationship capital, teaching the next generation of marketers, and why flexibility will become increasingly important as fundraising and communication continue to evolve.

    Paul closes by sharing his desire to leave a legacy for future generations and his belief that fundraising can help organizations feed the hungry, house the homeless, clothe the naked, heal the sick, and serve causes that matter.


    Key Takeaways

    00:00 The Layoff That Changed Everything

    00:25 Meet Paul Bigham

    01:44 Scarcity vs Abundance in Fundraising

    02:39 Make Fundraising About the Donor

    03:04 Four Ways to Improve the Bottom Line

    04:44 Building Sustainable Donor Growth

    06:18 Why You Need Proof of Concept

    07:16 Growing From 17,500 to 500,000 Donors

    08:58 Why Direct Mail Still Works

    10:17 $15 Million Online vs $80 Million in Mail

    11:20 Building the Right Fundraising Cadence

    14:49 Why Donor Relationships Matter

    16:15 Making Direct Mail and Digital Work Together

    19:09 Don't Say No for Your Donors

    21:39 Paul's Path Into Nonprofit Fundraising

    27:00 The Turning Point in Paul's Business

    30:04 Mentors and Relationship Capital

    32:46 Faith When the Path Isn't Clear

    34:15 Why Paul Teaches Marketing

    36:18 Preparing for the Future of Fundraising

    38:35 The Castle Roads Philosophy

    40:17 Building a Legacy for Future Generations

    41:34 Understanding the Marketing of Hate

    42:50 How Paul Helps Nonprofits Grow


    Resources

    Bigham Nonprofit Advisors

    https://www.bighamagency.com/

    Bigham Agency

    https://www.bighamagency.com/

    Paul's Fundraising Newsletter

    https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/castle-roads-7450910196572504065/

    Castle Roads

    https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/castle-roads-7450910196572504065/

    Southern Methodist University

    https://www.smu.edu/

    University of Texas at Dallas

    https://www.utdallas.edu/

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    God Told Him to Start a Business He Knew Nothing About | Ben Spell Sep 10, 2026
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    In this conversation, Kurt Luidhardt talks with Ben Spell, co-founder of Good Ranchers, an American meat company that began with a calling he never expected.

    For years, Ben served in full-time ministry as a worship leader and producer at one of Houston's largest churches.

    But after becoming increasingly frustrated with the lack of transparency in the American food system, he found himself repeatedly saying, "Somebody should do something about this." Eventually, he believes God gave him a simple answer: "You do it."

    What followed was a leap of faith. With little experience in the industry, Ben and his wife launched Good Ranchers with a mission to connect American families to American farms.

    What started with selling meat from trucks eventually grew into a nationwide direct-to-consumer business.

    Ben also reflects on how the COVID-19 pandemic changed his perspective on business. After donating truckloads of food to families in need, he realized that business could be ministry—serving people, creating jobs, and meeting practical needs in meaningful ways.

    The conversation explores faith, entrepreneurship, risk-taking, and the courage to act when the outcome is uncertain.

    Ben shares why fear keeps many people from pursuing opportunities and why some of life's biggest breakthroughs begin with a simple step of obedience.

    If you've ever felt called to do something beyond your experience or comfort zone, Ben's story is a powerful reminder that faith often grows when you're willing to take the first step.


    00:42 Introducing Ben Spell and Good Ranchers

    04:12 From Worship Leader to Full-Time Ministry

    05:33 The Parking Lot Moment That Changed Everything

    06:36 "Somebody Should Do Something About This"

    07:50 "I Heard the Voice of the Lord: You Do It"

    09:42 Going All-In and Moving Online

    10:36 Why Food Transparency Matters

    11:46 Connecting American Families to American Farms

    15:12 Taking the Leap Into Entrepreneurship

    17:27 The "Burn the Boats" Decision

    18:42 Sitting With CEOs, Team Owners, and Industry Leaders

    19:07 Why Fear Keeps People Stuck

    20:49 From Ministry to Business Leadership

    21:48 Giving Away Truckloads of Food During COVID

    22:57 What Ministry Really Means

    23:44 Realizing Business Can Be Ministry

    23:55 Growing the Brand Through IndyCar and Media

    32:52 Quality, Convenience, and Serving Families

    41:59 Faith, Entrepreneurship, and Long-Term Impact

    40:53 Final Thoughts and Where to Learn More


    Connect With Ben Spell & Good Ranchers

    ● Good Ranchers: https://www.goodranchers.com/pages/about

    ● Good Ranchers Subscription Boxes: https://www.goodranchers.com/collections/core-boxes

    ● Good Ranchers on IG: https://www.instagram.com/goodranchers/?hl=en

    ● Good Ranchers on FB: https://www.facebook.com/goodranchers/


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    How to Make More Money Without Getting More Customers | Carl Gould Sep 08, 2026
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    What if the fastest way to grow your business isn't finding more customers, but getting more value from the customers and assets you already have?

    In this conversation, Kurt Luidhardt talks with business growth strategist and keynote speaker Carl Gould about practical ways entrepreneurs can generate more revenue by rethinking pricing, creating premium offers, and understanding what their best customers truly value.

    Carl explains why many business owners are emotionally attached to their pricing and how an “obnoxious offer” can give passionate customers a reason to willingly pay more.

    Carl shares the story of a bar exam tutoring company that transformed a $3,000 service into $25,000, $45,000, and eventually $75,000 premium offers by adding stronger guarantees and greater access to its master tutor.

    He explains why bold guarantees are often less risky than business owners assume and why value should drive pricing more than cost plus a markup.

    The conversation also explores Carl's path from starting a landscaping business after leaving college to working with Tony Robbins and coaching businesses around the world.

    Carl breaks down the framework from his book The Anatomy of a Comeback, explaining the four stages of moving through adversity: break in, breakthrough, breakout, and break away.

    He shares why meaningful change requires taking inventory, making a radical shift, building a plan that makes success more likely, and being willing to say no to people and habits that pull you away from your goals.

    Carl closes by reflecting on entrepreneurship, legacy, helping others reach their potential, and building a sustainable, profitable business that supports the life you actually want to live.


    00:00 How a $3,000 Service Became a $25,000 Offer

    00:34 Meet Carl Gould

    02:02 Optimize What Your Business Already Has

    02:23 Why Most Business Owners Undercharge

    03:46 Creating an “Obnoxious Offer”

    05:22 What Premium Customers Are Willing to Pay For

    08:07 How to Know When You Can Raise Your Prices

    10:56 Turning a $3,000 Service Into a $75,000 Offer

    14:31 Why Bold Guarantees Aren't as Risky as You Think

    15:24 How Carl Became an Entrepreneur

    17:28 Working With Tony Robbins

    22:22 Turning Adversity Into a Comeback

    24:30 The Four Stages of a Comeback

    27:47 Building a Plan That Makes Success Inevitable

    29:00 Why Success Requires Saying No

    31:00 Why Entrepreneurship Can Feel Lonely

    33:23 Lessons From Coaching 150,000 Businesses

    36:19 What Makes a Life Well Lived

    37:46 Carl's Current Rabbit Holes

    39:33 How to Connect With Carl

    RESOURCES


    ● Carl Gould Official Website
    https://carlgould.com/

    ● 7 Stage Advisors
    https://7stageadvisors.com/

    ● Carl Gould on LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlgould

    ● The Anatomy of a Comeback by Carl Gould and Chuck Getchell
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    You’re in a Spiritual War Whether You Know It or Not | Ryan Bethea Sep 03, 2026
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    What if the battles you’re fighting aren’t only physical or mental, but spiritual?

    Ryan Bethea, co-host of The Exorcist Files, joins Kurt and Kristen to talk about the reality of spiritual warfare, why Christians shouldn’t fear it, and why ignoring it may be just as dangerous as seeing a demon behind every problem.

    With more than 50 million downloads, The Exorcist Files has tapped into a growing fascination with demons, exorcism and the supernatural.

    Ryan explains why he believes that interest is increasing even as traditional religious participation has declined, and what it says about our desire to understand a world beyond what we can see.

    They also explore whether some illnesses or struggles can have a spiritual component, why Jesus’ ministry included casting out demons, how Christians can recognize spiritual attacks without living in fear, and what Scripture teaches about protecting yourself spiritually.

    Then the conversation shifts to Ryan’s remarkable success in media. He breaks down how The Exorcist Files grew to more than 50 million downloads, why he tells many people not to start a podcast, the importance of knowing exactly who your content is for, and why great storytelling, humor and authenticity can separate a brand from everyone else.

    Whether you're interested in spiritual warfare, faith, culture, entrepreneurship or building an audience, this conversation challenges you to think differently about the battles we face and how we communicate what we believe.

    00:00 Spiritual Warfare Is Real

    00:29 Meet Ryan Bethea of The Exorcist Files

    02:04 Inside a Podcast About Real Exorcism Cases

    03:41 Are We All in a Spiritual War?

    05:07 What Christians Get Wrong About Spiritual Warfare

    07:14 The War for Your Mind, Body and Soul

    09:24 Can Illness Have a Spiritual Component?

    12:15 Why the Spiritual Realm Makes Christians Uncomfortable

    14:05 Science Didn't Kill Belief in the Supernatural

    17:24 Why Interest in Demons and the Occult Is Growing

    18:54 How Spiritual Attacks Can Hide in Plain Sight

    20:35 Spiritual Attack or Consequences of Our Own Choices?

    23:45 How The Exorcist Files Reached 50 Million Downloads

    25:29 Why Ryan Tells People NOT to Start a Podcast

    29:20 What Makes Content Actually Stand Out

    32:38 Why Humor Makes Marketing More Powerful

    33:16 How to Build a Brand People Actually Care About

    36:41 Tiny Changes That Can Dramatically Improve Content

    38:08 Success Isn't the Measure of a Life Well Lived

    41:02 Why Christians Can Read the Same Bible and Disagree

    48:40 Ryan's Final Message: Stay Demon Free

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    The IRS Targeted His Church but Ignored Pastors Backing Biden and Obama | Michael Farris Sep 01, 2026
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    What does it take to spend decades defending free speech, religious liberty, parental rights, and educational freedom?

    In this conversation, Kurt and Kristen Luidhardt talk with constitutional attorney Mike Farris about some of the major legal battles that have shaped his career.

    He explains the Johnson Amendment and why its restrictions on political speech by churches remain an important free speech issue, including the current legal effort challenging how the law is applied.

    Mike also looks back on arguing NIFLA v. Becerra before the U.S. Supreme Court, where pro-life pregnancy centers challenged California requirements compelling them to communicate information about abortion.

    He shares the preparation behind the case, including the moment Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg asked the exact question he had prepared for.

    The conversation expands into Mike's work with the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, Patrick Henry College, Alliance Defending Freedom, and decades of litigation surrounding religious and parental liberty.

    He explains why meaningful legal change can take years or even decades, and why faith requires trusting both God's sovereignty and His goodness through that process.

    Mike closes with a warning that freedom cannot be secured by one generation and assumed to last forever. It has to be understood, practiced, defended, and passed on to the next generation.


    00:00 Arguing Before the Supreme Court

    01:44 What Is the Johnson Amendment?

    06:11 Unequal Enforcement and Church Speech

    10:38 Challenging the Johnson Amendment

    14:09 Winning NIFLA v. Becerra

    18:03 Preparing for the Supreme Court

    22:20 Ruth Bader Ginsburg's First Question

    25:01 Defending Freedom Internationally

    27:57 Why Legal Battles Take Years

    28:53 Trusting God's Goodness While Waiting

    31:59 The Beginning of Mike's Legal Calling

    34:13 Why He Founded Patrick Henry College

    40:20 The Next Free Speech Battles

    44:22 Why Personal Relationships Protect Freedom

    48:54 Legacy and the Next Generation



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    • National Religious Broadcasters

    • Alliance Defending Freedom

    • Homeschool Legal Defense Association

    • Patrick Henry College

    • NIFLA v. Becerra

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