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    LessWrong (Curated & Popular)

    Audio narrations of LessWrong posts. Includes all curated posts and all posts with 125+ karma.

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    “The Case Against AI Control Research” by johnswentworth Jan 21, 2025
    Show notes

    The AI Control Agenda, in its own words:
    … we argue that AI labs should ensure that powerful AIs are controlled. That is, labs should make sure that the safety measures they apply to their powerful models prevent unacceptably bad outcomes, even if the AIs are misaligned and intentionally try to subvert those safety measures. We think no fundamental research breakthroughs are required for labs to implement safety measures that meet our standard for AI control for early transformatively useful AIs; we think that meeting our standard would substantially reduce the risks posed by intentional subversion.
    There's more than one definition of “AI control research”, but I’ll emphasize two features, which both match the summary above and (I think) are true of approximately-100% of control research in practice:

    1. Control research exclusively cares about intentional deception/scheming; it does not aim to solve any other failure mode.
    2. Control research exclusively cares [...]
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    Outline:
    (01:34) The Model and The Problem
    (03:57) The Median Doom-Path: Slop, not Scheming
    (08:22) Failure To Generalize
    (10:59) A Less-Simplified Model
    (11:54) Recap
    The original text contained 1 footnote which was omitted from this narration.
    The original text contained 2 images which were described by AI.
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    First published:
    January 21st, 2025
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/8wBN8cdNAv3c7vt6p/the-case-against-ai-control-research
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    “Don’t ignore bad vibes you get from people” by Kaj_Sotala Jan 19, 2025
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    I think a lot of people have heard so much about internalized prejudice and bias that they think they should ignore any bad vibes they get about a person that they can’t rationally explain.
    But if a person gives you a bad feeling, don’t ignore that.
    Both I and several others who I know have generally come to regret it if they’ve gotten a bad feeling about somebody and ignored it or rationalized it away.
    I’m not saying to endorse prejudice. But my experience is that many types of prejudice feel more obvious. If someone has an accent that I associate with something negative, it's usually pretty obvious to me that it's their accent that I’m reacting to.
    Of course, not everyone has the level of reflectivity to make that distinction. But if you have thoughts like “this person gives me a bad vibe but [...]
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    First published:
    January 18th, 2025
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Mi5kSs2Fyx7KPdqw8/don-t-ignore-bad-vibes-you-get-from-people
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    Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.


    “[Fiction] [Comic] Effective Altruism and Rationality meet at a Secular Solstice afterparty” by tandem Jan 19, 2025
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    (Both characters are fictional, loosely inspired by various traits from various real people. Be careful about combining kratom and alcohol.)
    The original text contained 24 images which were described by AI.
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    First published:
    January 7th, 2025
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KfZ4H9EBLt8kbBARZ/fiction-comic-effective-altruism-and-rationality-meet-at-a
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    “Building AI Research Fleets” by bgold, Jesse Hoogland Jan 18, 2025
    Show notes From AI scientist to AI research fleet
    Research automation is here (1, 2, 3). We saw it coming and planned ahead, which puts us ahead of most (4, 5, 6). But that foresight also comes with a set of outdated expectations that are holding us back. In particular, research automation is not just about “aligning the first AI scientist”, it's also about the institution-building problem of coordinating the first AI research fleets.
    Research automation is not about developing a plug-and-play “AI scientist”. Transformative technologies are rarely straightforward substitutes for what came before. The industrial revolution was not about creating mechanical craftsmen but about deconstructing craftsmen into assembly lines of specialized, repeatable tasks. Algorithmic trading was not just about creating faster digital traders but about reimagining traders as fleets of bots, quants, engineers, and other specialists. AI-augmented science will not just be about creating AI “scientists.”
    Why? New technologies come [...]
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    Outline:
    (00:04) From AI scientist to AI research fleet
    (05:05) Recommendations
    (05:28) Individual practices
    (06:22) Organizational changes
    (07:27) Community-level actions
    The original text contained 2 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
    The original text contained 1 image which was described by AI.
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    First published:
    January 12th, 2025
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/WJ7y8S9WdKRvrzJmR/building-ai-research-fleets
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    “What Is The Alignment Problem?” by johnswentworth Jan 17, 2025
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    So we want to align future AGIs. Ultimately we’d like to align them to human values, but in the shorter term we might start with other targets, like e.g. corrigibility.
    That problem description all makes sense on a hand-wavy intuitive level, but once we get concrete and dig into technical details… wait, what exactly is the goal again? When we say we want to “align AGI”, what does that mean? And what about these “human values” - it's easy to list things which are importantly not human values (like stated preferences, revealed preferences, etc), but what are we talking about? And don’t even get me started on corrigibility!
    Turns out, it's surprisingly tricky to explain what exactly “the alignment problem” refers to. And there's good reasons for that! In this post, I’ll give my current best explanation of what the alignment problem is (including a few variants and the [...]
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    Outline:
    (01:27) The Difficulty of Specifying Problems
    (01:50) Toy Problem 1: Old MacDonald's New Hen
    (04:08) Toy Problem 2: Sorting Bleggs and Rubes
    (06:55) Generalization to Alignment
    (08:54) But What If The Patterns Don't Hold?
    (13:06) Alignment of What?
    (14:01) Alignment of a Goal or Purpose
    (19:47) Alignment of Basic Agents
    (23:51) Alignment of General Intelligence
    (27:40) How Does All That Relate To Todays AI?
    (31:03) Alignment to What?
    (32:01) What are a Humans Values?
    (36:14) Other targets
    (36:43) Paul!Corrigibility
    (39:11) Eliezer!Corrigibility
    (40:52) Subproblem!Corrigibility
    (42:55) Exercise: Do What I Mean (DWIM)
    (43:26) Putting It All Together, and Takeaways
    The original text contained 10 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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    First published:
    January 16th, 2025
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/dHNKtQ3vTBxTfTPxu/what-is-the-alignment-problem
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    “Applying traditional economic thinking to AGI: a trilemma” by Steven Byrnes Jan 14, 2025
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    Traditional economics thinking has two strong principles, each based on abundant historical data:

    • Principle (A): No “lump of labor”: If human population goes up, there might be some wage drop in the very short term, because the demand curve for labor slopes down. But in the longer term, people will find new productive things to do, such that human labor will retain high value. Indeed, if anything, the value of labor will go up, not down—for example, dense cities are engines of economic growth!
    • Principle (B): “Experience curves”: If the demand for some product goes up, there might be some price increase in the very short term, because the supply curve slopes up. But in the longer term, people will ramp up manufacturing of that product to catch up with the demand. Indeed, if anything, the cost per unit will go down, not up, because of economies of [...]
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    The original text contained 1 image which was described by AI.
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    First published:
    January 13th, 2025
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/TkWCKzWjcbfGzdNK5/applying-traditional-economic-thinking-to-agi-a-trilemma
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    “Passages I Highlighted in The Letters of J.R.R.Tolkien” by Ivan Vendrov Jan 13, 2025
    Show notes

    All quotes, unless otherwise marked, are Tolkien's words as printed in The Letters of J.R.R.Tolkien: Revised and Expanded Edition. All emphases mine.
    Machinery is Power is Evil
    Writing to his son Michael in the RAF:
    [here is] the tragedy and despair of all machinery laid bare. Unlike art which is content to create a new secondary world in the mind, it attempts to actualize desire, and so to create power in this World; and that cannot really be done with any real satisfaction. Labour-saving machinery only creates endless and worse labour. And in addition to this fundamental disability of a creature, is added the Fall, which makes our devices not only fail of their desire but turn to new and horrible evil. So we come inevitably from Daedalus and Icarus to the Giant Bomber. It is not an advance in wisdom! This terrible truth, glimpsed long ago by Sam [...]
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    Outline:
    (00:17) Machinery is Power is Evil
    (03:45) On Atomic Bombs
    (04:17) On Magic and Machines
    (07:06) Speed as the root of evil
    (08:11) Altruism as the root of evil
    (09:13) Sauron as metaphor for the evil of reformers and science
    (10:32) On Language
    (12:04) The straightjacket of Modern English
    (15:56) Argent and Silver
    (16:32) A Fallen World
    (21:35) All stories are about the Fall
    (22:08) On his mother
    (22:50) Love, Marriage, and Sexuality
    (24:42) Courtly Love
    (27:00) Womens exceptional attunement
    (28:27) Men are polygamous; Christian marriage is self-denial
    (31:19) Sex as source of disorder
    (32:02) Honesty is best
    (33:02) On the Second World War
    (33:06) On Hitler
    (34:04) On aerial bombardment
    (34:46) On British communist-sympathizers, and the U.S.A as Saruman
    (35:52) Why he wrote the Legendarium
    (35:56) To express his feelings about the first World War
    (36:39) Because nobody else was writing the kinds of stories he wanted to read
    (38:23) To give England an epic of its own
    (39:51) To share a feeling of eucatastrophe
    (41:46) Against IQ tests
    (42:50) On Religion
    (43:30) Two interpretations of Tom Bombadil
    (43:35) Bombadil as Pacifist
    (45:13) Bombadil as Scientist
    (46:02) On Hobbies
    (46:27) On Journeys
    (48:02) On Torture
    (48:59) Against Communism
    (50:36) Against America
    (51:11) Against Democracy
    (51:35) On Money, Art, and Duty
    (54:03) On Death
    (55:02) On Childrens Literature
    (55:55) In Reluctant Support of Universities
    (56:46) Against being Photographed
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    First published:
    November 25th, 2024
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/jJ2p3E2qkXGRBbvnp/passages-i-highlighted-in-the-letters-of-j-r-r-tolkien
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    Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.


    “Parkinson’s Law and the Ideology of Statistics” by Benquo Jan 13, 2025
    Show notes

    The anonymous review of The Anti-Politics Machine published on Astral Codex X focuses on a case study of a World Bank intervention in Lesotho, and tells a story about it:
    The World Bank staff drew reasonable-seeming conclusions from sparse data, and made well-intentioned recommendations on that basis. However, the recommended programs failed, due to factors that would have been revealed by a careful historical and ethnographic investigation of the area in question. Therefore, we should spend more resources engaging in such investigations in order to make better-informed World Bank style resource allocation decisions. So goes the story.
    It seems to me that the World Bank recommendations were not the natural ones an honest well-intentioned person would have made with the information at hand. Instead they are heavily biased towards top-down authoritarian schemes, due to a combination of perverse incentives, procedures that separate data-gathering from implementation, and an ideology that [...]
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    Outline:
    (01:06) Ideology
    (02:58) Problem
    (07:59) Diagnosis
    (14:00) Recommendation
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    First published:
    January 4th, 2025
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4CmYSPc4HfRfWxCLe/parkinson-s-law-and-the-ideology-of-statistics-1
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    Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.


    “Capital Ownership Will Not Prevent Human Disempowerment” by beren Jan 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Crossposted from my personal blog. I was inspired to cross-post this here given the discussion that this post on the role of capital in an AI future elicited.
    When discussing the future of AI, I semi-often hear an argument along the lines that in a slow takeoff world, despite AIs automating increasingly more of the economy, humanity will remain in the driving seat because of its ownership of capital. This world posits one where humanity effectively becomes a rentier class living well off the vast economic productivity of the AI economy where despite contributing little to no value, humanity can extract most/all of the surplus value created due to its ownership of capital alone.
    This is a possibility, and indeed is perhaps closest to what a ‘positive singularity’ looks like from a purely human perspective. However, I don’t believe that this will happen by default in a competitive AI [...]
    The original text contained 3 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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    First published:
    January 5th, 2025
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/bmmFLoBAWGnuhnqq5/capital-ownership-will-not-prevent-human-disempowerment
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    Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.


    “Activation space interpretability may be doomed” by bilalchughtai, Lucius Bushnaq Jan 10, 2025
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    TL;DR: There may be a fundamental problem with interpretability work that attempts to understand neural networks by decomposing their individual activation spaces in isolation: It seems likely to find features of the activations - features that help explain the statistical structure of activation spaces, rather than features of the model - the features the model's own computations make use of.
    Written at Apollo Research
    Introduction
    Claim: Activation space interpretability is likely to give us features of the activations, not features of the model, and this is a problem.
    Let's walk through this claim.
    What do we mean by activation space interpretability? Interpretability work that attempts to understand neural networks by explaining the inputs and outputs of their layers in isolation. In this post, we focus in particular on the problem of decomposing activations, via techniques such as sparse autoencoders (SAEs), PCA, or just by looking at individual neurons. This [...]
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    Outline:
    (00:33) Introduction
    (02:40) Examples illustrating the general problem
    (12:29) The general problem
    (13:26) What can we do about this?
    The original text contained 11 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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    First published:
    January 8th, 2025
    Source:
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/gYfpPbww3wQRaxAFD/activation-space-interpretability-may-be-doomed
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    Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.


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