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Law and Chaos

Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.

Copyright: © 2026

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Ep 76 — Elon Is Evil, But He's Not Buying Votes Oct 22, 2024

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Elon Musk is giving Trump's campaign $75 million. Plus he's paying out $1 million per day to "registered voters." Is that a crime, or just a photo op? Meanwhile in DC, what can we learn from the Special Counsel's latest filing in the Trump election case? And we answer questions about how to watch early election night returns.

Links:

Musk Petition

https://petition.theamericapac.org/

US v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?order_by=desc

Elon Musk Veers Into Clearly Illegal Vote Buying by Rick Hasen

https://electionlawblog.org/?p=146397

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Ep 75 BONUS — How Kentucky and Indiana Can Tell Us If Kamala Harris Has Won on Election Night Oct 21, 2024

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In this BONUS episode, elections expert Joe Dye returns to tell us what to watch for when the very first returns on Election Day come in at 6 pm Eastern from Indiana and Kentucky. Learn how those deep red states will help us test six different bits of conventional wisdom we've all heard from the pundits, like whether Kamala Harris is facing a backlash from college students, or whether she has made inroads with educated white voters & so much more!

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The Republican Feelings Industrial Complex

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/bonus-the-republican-feelings-industrial

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Ep 74 — Judge Blows Up Billion Dollar Boeing Settlement For Excessive WOKE Oct 18, 2024

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Lt. Gov. Mark "Horndog" Robinson is suing CNN and a former porn shop worker named Louis Love Money for $50 million. And Texas's worst(?) federal judge threatens to tank a Boeing plea deal because the federal monitor might do DEIs. Can't have the airline pay victims of airline crashes unless the deal is 100 percent woke free! And for subscribers, a deep dive into the latest Trump election interference case foolishness.

Links:

Liz on Andrew Bailey: "Missouri AG Andy Bailey Face Plants All Over Federal Docket In Media Matters Case"

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/missouri-ag-andy-bailey-face-plants

Judge McBurney Order re Georgia Hand Count Rule

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25214879-file_0479

'I'm a black NAZI!': NC GOP nominee for governor made dozens of disturbing comments on porn forum

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics/kfile-mark-robinson-black-nazi-pro-slavery-porn-forum/index.html

The Lt. Governor Owes Me Money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4CbWIXGzvE

Ex-Porn Shop Employees Say Mark Robinson Was A Regular. He Denies It.

https://www.theassemblync.com/politics/nc-election-governor-republican-mark-robinson-porn-allegations/

Robinson v. CNN complaint

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25215289-robinson-cnn-complaint

NC Pattern Jury Instructions

https://www.sog.unc.edu/resources/microsites/north-carolina-pattern-jury-instructions/north-carolina-pattern-jury-instructions-civil-cases

NC Rule 8(a)(2)

https://ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_1A/GS_1A-1,_Rule_8.html

Boeing Order

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.342881/gov.uscourts.txnd.342881.275.0_1.pdf

US v. Trump (DC docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

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Ep 73— Everything Must Go: The Alex Jones Edition Oct 15, 2024

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The courts are closed, but crazy never takes a break. We'll check in on Alex Jones's bankruptcy liquidation, Donald Trump's shenanigans in the election interference case, and the horror show now that the mifepristone case is back before Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk. Subscribers catch up with Peter Navarro, who seems to be working at cross purposes to his old boss in federal court — although perhaps it hasn't yet occurred to him.

Links:

Free Speech Systems Auction Page

https://360assetadvisors.com/events/fssmh/

US v. Trump (DC docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

L&C on Trump Revoking CBS's "license"

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/no-the-fcc-cant-revoke-cbss-license

Oklahoma RFP 00000555

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JbS0fT-wBSpLhKojxAv_BN5htPPKSi1g1d8bfbz-wWE/edit?tab=t.0

Alex Jones TX plaintiff appeal

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.1028.0.pdf

FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine (2024)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-235_n7ip.pdf

Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine docket (ND Tex.)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.370067

Navarro order

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.245941/gov.uscourts.dcd.245941.53.0.pdf

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Ep 72 — Did SCOTUS Leave A Second Escape Hatch For Trump In The Election Case? Oct 11, 2024

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The Trump election interference case is back, and the immunity ruling isn't the only way the Supreme Court tried to kneecap it. A case called Fischer v. US may prove fatal as well. Also, we take your questions of Florida's abortion and marijuana ballot initiatives. And for subscribers, we catch up with Kraken weirdos Stefanie Lambert and Patrick Byrne.

Links:

FL Stat. 101-161

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0100-0199/0101/Sections/0101.161.html

Fischer v. US (2024)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-5572_l6hn.pdf

US v. Trump (DC docket)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

Trump opp redacted appendix

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.259.0_2.pdf

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Ep 71 — Trump Judges Discover One Weird Trick To Get Rid Of Federal Regs (Hint: It Is A Sharpie!) Oct 08, 2024

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They're baaaaaack! The Supreme Court's October term starts this week, and the howler monkey wing is ready to FSU. Down in Florida, Trump appointee Judge Kathryn Mizelle is doing her best Aileen Cannon impersonation. That story has an old school deep dive from Andrew into 13th century Saxony and beyond. And, for subscribers, we'll unpack an amazing grift in Oklahoma.

Links:

ABA Letter rating Mizelle "Not Qualified"

https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/government_affairs_office/2020-09-08chair-rating-letter-to-graham-and-feinstein-re-nomination-of-kathryn-kimball-mizelle.pdf?logActivity=true

False Claims Act, 31 U.S.C. Subchapter III

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/subtitle-III/chapter-37/subchapter-III

US ex rel Clarissa Zafirov v. Florida Medical Associates

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flmd.364103/gov.uscourts.flmd.364103.346.0.pdf

2007 OLC Memo re Relators

https://www.justice.gov/file/494641/dl?inline

OKLAHOMA TRUMP BIBLES

https://www.lawdork.com/p/oklahoma-ryan-walters-bible-inhalers

OKLAHOMA RFP

https://sde.ok.gov/ev00000555

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Ep 70 — "Make Them Riot. Do It!!!" Oct 04, 2024

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Special Counsel Jack Smith filed his opening salvo since the Supreme Court invented a new doctrine of absolute presidential immunity. Trump complained that the immunity brief is functionally a mini-Special Counsel report, and he's not wrong. But if you don't want your crimes on the public docket, maybe don't try to overthrow democracy! Liz and Andrew break down the latest in Trump's election interference case.

Links:

US v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?order_by=desc

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Ep 69 — Alex Jones, Eric Adams, And Donald Trump Walk Into A Bar Oct 01, 2024

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It's a regular Star Wars bar on today's show, with updates in Donald Trump's election interference case and Alex Jones's bankruptcy. But the real star is New York Mayor Eric Adams, who wants to dismiss his indictment because the Supreme Court says it's not a bribe if you don't get paid until after you do the official act. It's a gratuity, which is as American as apple pie!

Links:

US v. Adams [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69197933/united-states-v-adams/

Free Speech Systems Bankruptcy [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64868456/free-speech-systems-llc-and-official-committee-of-unsecured-creditors-of/

Alex Jones Bankruptcy [Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones-and-official-committee-of-unsecured-creditors/

Alex Jones' Company To Be Broken Up And Sold For Scrap

https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/alex-jones-company-to-be-broken-up

Tell Alex Jones to Eat Shit: Let's Buy Infowars

https://thebarbedwire.com/2024/09/30/tell-alex-jones-to-eat-shit-lets-buy-infowars/

Sistersong Women of Color Reproductive Justice Collective v. State of Georgia, Order

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25178630-mcburney-sistersong-final-order

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Ep 68 — Eric Adams Thought He'd Be President, And So Did His Turkish Handlers Sep 27, 2024

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The Mayor of New York was federally indicted for taking bribes from the Turkish government. He was not indicted for taking notes on a criminal f***ing conspiracy in flagrant violation of the Stringer Bell Rule. But perhaps the feds are saving that for a superseding indictment. And for subscribers: an update on the DC election interference case.

Links:

US v. Adams [SDNY Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69197933/united-states-v-adams/

US v. Trump [DC Docket via Court Listener]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/

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Ep 67 — Election Shenanigans Palooza Sep 24, 2024

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It's a roundup day! Time to run down the latest efforts to mess with the vote, from Georgia to Nebraska and all places in between. Then Cards Against Humanity sues SpaceX, and the complaint is a thing of beauty. Finally, let's talk about Republicans' grudging plan to NOT sink the economy before November. Please clap!

Links:

Fuzzy Math: Wrong Way Reforms for Allocating Electoral Votes

https://fairvote.app.box.com/v/fuzzy-math-wrong-way-reforms

RFK Jr. FEC Statement of Candidacy

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=2ofcShRVs71csui/f9Yq6g==

New York election law 1-104

https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/election-law/eln-sect-1-104/

31 U.S.C § 3101

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/3101

Debt limit votes 1978 to present https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R41814.pdf

HR 9494

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/9494/text

Treasury debt data

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny

GA Hand Count Rule

https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/files/2024-08/seb-notice_of_proposed_rulemaking_183_1_12_.12a5_hand_count.pdf

Cards Against Humanity Stops the Wall

https://cardsagainsthumanitystopsthewall.com/

https://www.cahsuesmusk.com/

Cards Against Humanity v. SpaceX Complaint

https://cah-sues-elon-musk.s3.amazonaws.com/240919+Plaintiff's+Original+Petition.pdf

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