Latter-Day Lesbian

Introducing AI Therapy Sessions Sep 06, 2024

Hi LDLers! Mary here, introducing my brand-new podcast! I was curious about this whole artificial intelligence thing... Can we use AI on a journey to self improvement? Can it make a good therapist? Wish me luck as I attempt to find out!
I want to hear from you! To send in a comment, contact: aitherapypod@gmail.com.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.
Audio mix provided by Dan from Extension Audio: https://extensionaudio.wixsite.com.

LDL Ep 181: Shelly's Dad's Funeral Part 2 Jun 28, 2024

In this episode we are finishing up the deaths of both of Shelly's parents. Morbid? A little bit. This is part 2 of Shelly's Dad's Funeral. It's kind of surreal that my mom and dad are both gone. Life is...well, surreal. Enjoy!

LDL Ep 180: Shelly's Dad's Funeral Part 1 Apr 25, 2024

In this episode, Shelly has to deal with yet ANOTHER Mormon funeral. That makes 3 in about 6 months. She's earned the title of Grim Reaper at this point. Too soon? Eh, sorry. ANYWAY, this is part 1 of 2 of her Dad's funeral. Also, welcome special guest-host Jen, a fellow ex-mo-later-in-life lesbian, as we talk and laugh our way through part 1 of Shelly's Dad's Funeral. Enjoy!

179: Austin Gets a Penis Part 2 Mar 16, 2024

Remember in the last episode when Shelly and Austin were discussing Austin's soon-to-be new dick? Well, this is part two. Enjoy!

178: Austin Gets a Penis Mar 03, 2024

In this episode, our good friend Austin Arrowwood is only a few days away from his gender-affirming surgery. You will learn that despite what your ultra-conservative family might tell you, you can't just walk into a clinic, tell them you feel like a boy, and they will staple your new dick on before lunchtime. Lots to learn. Enjoy!

177 My Dad Died Feb 13, 2024

In this episode, Shelly's dad dies. Not literally on the show (that would have been super-weird) but just a few days before this episode was recorded. Plus, Shelly and guest co-host Kirsten get extremely sidetracked with a conversation about karaoke. Also, you will learn about Shelly's brother's magical priesthood ability to "release" dead people from their bodies. I'm not kidding.

176: Shelly's Mom's funeral Pt. 2 Jan 06, 2024

More Mormon funeral discussion? Hell yeah. In today’s episode, guest host Kirsten Morgan helps Shelly unpack the rest of her mom’s funeral, and there’s plenty of it. As an added bonus, you will get to hear Shelly’s talk that she gave from the pulpit, in a Mormon chapel, in front of hundreds of Mormons. Did she announce that she is gay? Of course she did. Did the church burn to the ground? Listen up and find out.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

175: Shelly's Mom's funeral Pt. 1 Nov 24, 2023

Hello Friends! In today’s episode, Shelly talks with Kimberly Anderson about the death of her mom and her trip to Utah for the very Mormon funeral. If you’ve ever been to a Mormon funeral as an ExMormon, you know there’s gonna be a lot to unpack here. This is part 1 of 2. That’s how much there is to unpack.
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174: Memoir of an Ex-Mormon Lesbian Nov 10, 2023

Please welcome Chris Davis, author of "Worthy: The Memoir of an Ex-Mormon Lesbian." Chris spoke to us candidly about her experience growing up Mormon, her struggles with marriage and children, and a 17-year crisis that culminated in a huge turning point that led to a brand-new chapter in her life. Her book can be found on Amazon or at chrisdavisproud.com. Also, check out Chris's essay in "I Spoke to You with Silence," also on Amazon.
TW: we discuss suicidal ideation openly in this episode. Please listen responsibly or feel free to skip this one if that topic is difficult for you.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

173: LDL's Next Chapter Sep 30, 2023

Hi friends, today's episode was extremely difficult and emotional to record. We hope you'll listen with an open heart and mind as Shelly and I embark upon the next adventure of our podcast and our lives. We also want to thank T and Ophelia, current members of the LDS church, for bravely sending in their letters. We appreciate everyone's participation, love and support. It means the world to both of us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

172: Prisoner of the Prophet Pt 2 Aug 05, 2023

Please join us for the conclusion of our 2-part interview with Briell Decker, the inspiring cult survivor of the FLDS church. Her 3-part documentary series, Prisoner of the Prophet, is available on Discovery + or Max on Prime Video Channels.
Check out Briell Decker’s personal page: https://www.brielldecker.com, where you can sign up for Briell’s upcoming memoir. Also, please consider donating to the Short Creek Dream Center: https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

171: Prisoner of the Prophet Pt 1 Jun 12, 2023

Please join us for part 1 of our fascinating, two-part interview with the amazingly brave, cult survivor of the FLDS church, Briell Decker. Her 3-part documentary series, Prisoner of the Prophet, is available on Discovery + or Max on Prime Video Channels.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

170: Name That Religion Apr 02, 2023

In this episode, Shelly decides it will be really fun to quiz Mary on some of mainstream religions' more wacky beliefs. Can you guess which answers she got right? Also, we read a listener letter, and get stuck on an odd discussion about foreskins. It happens.
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169: The Covenant Path Feb 05, 2023

The title of this episode could probably have been a FUMPOTD. Perhaps we thought it was too obvious? Feel free to cue music in your head when we get to that part. And there's nothing like a "Shelly's Journal Journey" segment to make us feel inspired to take the covenant path...or perhaps to get us all to start thinking it's all fake? You decide! We'd also like to thank Rose for submitting today's listener letter. If you'd like to get in touch, please visit latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
We'd like to thank our sponsor, Modest Mix Teas, and their Wake the Fuck Up blend. Head over to www.modestmix.com, and enter latterdaylesbian20 at check out for 20% off your order!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

168: Inappropriate Xmas Songs Dec 24, 2022

In this year-end episode, we talk about those holiday tunes that should possibly be banned once and for all...or maybe a few of the examples are a stretch? Give a listen and decide for yourself. Also, Shelly discusses her recent trip to Utah, and there's even a surprise FUMPOTD at the end! We want to give special thanks to all of our Patreon and Supercast subscribers. We couldn't keep this show going without you! Sign up at www.latterdaylesbian.org/support, at the $5 and above level, by 12/31/22 to receive this year's Christmas letter (obviously not in time for Christmas). We'd really appreciate it. Happy holidays everybody!
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167: Calling & Election (and other stupidity) Nov 08, 2022

In today's episode, Shelly reads once again from her oh-so-riveting, circa 1990s journal, which sparks an impromptu FUMPOTD. Such a fun surprise that Mary can't begin to sort out, per usual. We also read a letter from a very special friend of the podcast.
We'd like to thank our sponsor, Modest Mix Teas, and their Wake the Fuck Up blend. Head over to www.modestmix.com, and enter latterdaylesbian20 at check out for 20% off your order!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

166: LGBTQ Book Banning Oct 09, 2022

Today we're talking about banned LGBTQ books. The most common are listed below, along with a link to save the Patmos Library in Jamestown Township, outside of Grand Rapids, Michigan. We also want to give a shout-out to our sponsor, Modest Mix Teas, whose main ingredient is a well placed f-bomb. Check them out at www.modestmix.com, and enter latterdaylesbian20 at check out for 20% off your order!
Gender Queer: a Memoir - Maia Kobabe
Kiss Number 8 - Colleen AF Venable
Spinning - Tillie Walden
Lawn Boy - Jonathan Evison
I Am a Gay Wizard - V.S. Santoni
Out of Darkness - Ashley Hope Pérez
The Poet X - Elizabeth Acevedo
When Aidan Became a Brother - Kyle Lukoff
www.gofundme.com / Save Patmos library: https://gofund.me/3b4581ad
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

165: Mormons Don't Want You To Be Queer Aug 31, 2022

In today's episode we're reading from two LDS-authored books: "Mormons & Homosexuality" and "Encouraging Heterosexuality." We're super stoked to debunk both of them. We also want to give a shout-out to our sponsor, Modest Mix Teas, who lovingly provided the delicious and subversive tea blends that delight our senses and encourage our unapologetic love of swearwords. Hooray for beverages that go against the word of wisdom or whatever. Check them out at www.modestmix.com, and be sure to enter latterdaylesbian20 at check out, so they can figure out that we directed listeners there and stuff. You know, algorithms.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

164: LDL & QLC Simulcast Jun 23, 2022

Hey friends, Mary and Kirsten take the reins on this Latter-Day Lesbian and Queer Life Crisis Simulcast. We share some initial reactions to Under the Banner of Heaven, and manage to keep the spoilers to a minimum. Also, we're taking a bit of a break from podcasting, so we hope all of you have an amazing summer and we'll talk to you again in the fall.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

163: Queering the American Dream Jun 05, 2022

Please join us today for a fantastic conversation with Rev. Dr. Angela Yarber. Her new book, Queering the American Dream is available now on Amazon or at your local bookstore. You can also purchase a copy at Angela's foundation: the Tehom Center, which provides a space to learn about and celebrate the lives of revolutionary women and goddesses. Angela's art and writing provide methods for learning about such women, and her Intentional Art Process invites people of marginalized genders to explore their own spiritualities in her courses and retreats. Learn more at https://tehomcenter.org.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

162: The Game of Life May 22, 2022

Did you ever play that Hasbro board game with the cute little cars and the little pegs? Or wait...did you play the Mormon version?? That fun game where young adults are put to the test as they try to guess what the "right" decision is, and then get to experience copious amounts of guilt and shame and also fake punishments if they guess incorrectly? Well, we are ripping the shirt out of THAT game today. Even "Leave It In" Dan has something to say about it. We also have a FUMPOTD and an entry from Shelly's journal. Should be a good time.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

161: Coffee Talk May 07, 2022

Today's episode features a super fun interview with Melissa and Tanya from Apostate Coffee. We get to hear their story; how they met and got started in the coffee biz. There's also an impromptu FUMPOTD, a lesbian dating discussion, and later, a pretty random sex toy conversation. Please visit https://www.apostatecoffee.com, check out their delicious coffee blends and fun merch, and be sure to enter LDL at checkout to receive 10% off your order! Not only will that benefit Melissa and Tanya's business, but also this podcast. Thanks so much!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

160: Oh My Goddess! Apr 24, 2022

On this episode, we have a fun chat about Heavenly Mother, A.K.A. "She Who Must Not Be Named." We also read a listener letter (TW: intense sexual themes), and Shelly regales us with a Utah tale. It's a good time.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

159: Candle Therapy Apr 09, 2022

TW: The subject of suicidal ideation is discussed along with self harm and strong sexual themes. Please listen responsibly.
Please help us welcome Jen, from The ExMo Candle Co., to today's show. Jen bravely and generously shared with us her story of shame and abuse inflicted by the LDS church. She now funnels those experiences, and the resulting trauma, into making candles - a business she shares with her husband Adri. If you're interested in purchasing the "Gay Away the Pray" candle (or any of their amazing varieties), please cut and paste www.exmocandles.com into a browser window and click on the Creator Candles tab at the top of the site. A portion of the proceeds from each "Gay Away the Pray" candle helps support this podcast! Thank you in advance!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

158: Burnout with Dr. Amelia Nagoski Mar 27, 2022

Please join us for an amazing conversation with Dr. Amelia Nagoski, coauthor of Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle. To anyone feeling stuck or overwhelmed by obligation and stress, there is hope, and listening to this interview is a great place to start.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

157: Bashing Brad, Plus a Look Back Mar 13, 2022

Diana joins us today for a retrospective on some aspects of her journey out of Mormonism. We also share some special sentiments from Brad Wilcox, the second counselor to the Young Men's general presidency, whatever that means. Oh, and Sister Fanny Fact-Check chimes in with some thoughts on that same subject. Please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

156: Welcome ExMormon Mindy Feb 27, 2022

We are super excited to welcome ExMormon Mindy to the show today (or as she's known to her TikTok and Instagram fans: @exmormonmindy). In fact, please copy and paste this link into a browser to check out her smart, funny, and creative videos: https://www.tiktok.com/@exmormonmindy...or just head to TikTok and search for exmormonmindy. It's a good time.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

155: A Proclamation to the World Feb 13, 2022

Today, our friend Kirsten joins us for a deep dive into that horrifying LDS document from 1995 that instructed all of us on how to do families properly. And yes, of course there's only one correct way. Duh. Are you new? Anyway, this should be a fun li'l shirt show. Buckle up!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

154: Was I In A Cult? Jan 30, 2022

Today we interview Tyler Measom, cohost of the iHeart Radio podcast, "Was I In A Cult" - a documentary-style show that highlights individuals who have been in, and subsequently left various high-demand organizations. Tyler is also a documentary film maker responsible for well-known titles such as, "Sons of Perdition," "An Honest Liar," and "Murder Among the Mormons," to name a few. Welcome Tyler!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

153: Queer Life Crisis Jan 15, 2022

In today's episode we preview our brand-new pod: Queer Life Crisis: the stories, struggles and successes of the LGBTQ+ community (available on most podcast players). We also start out the new year right with a FUMPOTD to help kick off our first LDL broadcast of 2022. Happy new year, everybody!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

152: Fabulous Fact-Checking Factacular! Dec 25, 2021

This week we have a special holiday treat for everyone: Sister Fanny Fact-Check's Fabulous Fact-Checking Factacular! It's a best-of nearly three years in the making, which just proves that Mary is extremely excellent at holding onto past recordings. So yay for her, and yay for Sister Fanny and her infinite wisdom about a bunch of made up crap. We hope you enjoy, and please be sure to steer clear of cults this holiday season!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

LDL 151: Welcome Jeopardy Champ, Amy Schneider Dec 19, 2021

This week, Kimberly joins Mary for a delightful conversation with 13-time Jeopardy champion, and counting, Amy Schneider. We want to thank Amy for her candor and willingness to be vulnerable, as she opens up about her struggles and successes on her path towards living an authentic life as a transgender woman. What a fantastic discussion. Please join us!
Follow Amy's progress on Twitter: @Jeopardamy (https://twitter.com/Jeopardamy).
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

150: Gifts for Every Mormon on Your List Dec 12, 2021

It's a grab bag o' holiday goodies in today's episode. We revisit a classic FUMPOTD, talk about gifts for all the Mormons on your list, and hear from Pirate God about the foretelling of a Messiah...or Joseph Smith...we can't be sure. Perhaps it's all fake? Enjoy!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

149: Miracle Foundation with Caroline Boudreaux Dec 04, 2021

In today's episode we interview Caroline Boudreaux, the founder of Miracle Foundation, a non-profit dedicating to empowering orphans and vulnerable children worldwide to reach their full potential. What a great conversation about such an amazing cause! Find out how you can get involved at https://www.miraclefoundation.org.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

148: Gadianton Robbers (& other fake stuff) Nov 28, 2021

Just when we were starting to think it was all fake...we get to learn about even more fake people and places from that charming book of absolute made up bunk: the Book of Momo. We also read a letter from a listener who took the time to write in on fancy stationary. And there's a "He Said What" about conversion therapy that's worthy of a trigger warning. So please skip that section or this entire episode if that's a difficult subject for you.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

147: Welcome Ladyhawke! Nov 20, 2021

In this episode, we had the distinct privilege of interviewing the super talented, charming and hilarious New Zealand singer/songwriter, Pip Brown, a.k.a. Ladyhawke! Her new album, "Time Flies," just released and it is awesome! And seriously, what a fun conversation. You are gonna love this episode! Check out her tunes, videos, merch and more at her website: https://ladyhawkemusic.com.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

146: Come As You Are Nov 13, 2021

This week we had the privilege of interviewing Emily Nagoski, Ph.D., sex educator and author of the New York Times bestselling book, "Come As You Are: The Surprising New Science That Will Transform Your Sex Life." This was such an important and informative conversation about the way we view sexual intimacy and our brains and bodies. Please join us!
For worksheets and assessments that correspond to the book, head to Emily's website: https://www.emilynagoski.com.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

145: Getting Sucked Back Into the Suck, part 2 Nov 06, 2021

Once again we're talking about all those occasions that require us to go back to church as nonbelievers, such as for baby blessings, funerals, baptisms, weddings, etc. We also dust off the Mormon MadLib segment, and Mary quizzes Shelly on a FUMPOTD!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

144: Rusty's Starting to Think It's All Fake Oct 30, 2021

Cat's out of the bag, y'all...the Book of Mormon is F.A.K.E. Knew it all along. Thanks for the confirmation, Rusty M. We also hear from the delightful Sister Craven, who's name will forever be cemented into Mary's brain. And...much, much more. Please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

143: Jesus Teaches Shelly About Polygamy Oct 23, 2021

This week we're taking a break from the sex talks to discuss Shelly's former feelings of unworthiness. Yup, once again it's Shelly's Journal Journey - always a good time. We also answer a few listener questions, and we learn about a new humping term that's all the rage in Provo. Good times.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

142: How Religion Effed Up Effing, part 3 Oct 16, 2021

We’re back for episode three in our multi-part series on religion's toxic effect on our sex lives, either while we were still believers or afterwards. Pirate God pays us a visit this week. Once again, TRIGGER WARNING: topics surrounding intense shame and guilt along with mature sexual themes such as abuse are discussed. Thanks to everyone who bravely contributed to this candid conversation!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

141: How Religion Effed Up Effing, part 2 Oct 10, 2021

We’re back for episode two in our multi-part series on religion's toxic effect on our sex lives, either while we were still believers or afterwards. Trigger warning: topics surrounding intense shame and guilt along with mature sexual themes such as abuse are discussed. Thanks to everyone who bravely contributed to this candid conversation!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

140: How Religion Effed Up Effing, part 1 Oct 02, 2021

Welcome to episode one of a multi-part series on religion's toxic effect on our sex lives, either while we were still believers or afterwards. Trigger warning: topics surrounding intense shame and guilt along with mature sexual themes are discussed. Thanks to everyone who bravely contributed to this candid conversation. We are not alone, friends!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

139: Getting Sucked Back Into the Suck Sep 26, 2021

In today's episode we talk about all those occasions that require us to go back to church as nonbelievers, such as for baby blessings, funerals, weddings, etc. Thanks once again to all of our social media contributors. Your input makes this podcast possible!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

138: The Sin-Cast, part 2 Sep 19, 2021

So it looks like we’re still sinning. Mary and Shelly continue talking about the religiously taboo on this week's episode. We would like to thank our Supercast, Patreon and Marco Polo Channels subscribers, along with members of the Latter-Day Lesbian Podcast Discussion Group on Facebook, for all of the candid contributions to this lively discussion. To support this podcast financially please visit www.latterdaylesbian.org/support.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

137: Coparenting After Divorce, part 2 Sep 11, 2021

This week we wrap up our conversation around coparenting after divorce. Once again, we want to recognize how difficult this is and honor those who are wrestling with it on the reg. Thanks to everyone in our social media channels who contributed to this important conversation.
We also are announcing our new subscription service that delivers ad-free and bonus content right to your current podcast player! It’s called Supercast, and you can find out more at www.latterdaylesbian.org/support.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

136: Elder Holland's Opus Sep 05, 2021

In this week's episode we tear apart Jeffrey R. Holland's recent hateful address aimed at the LGBTQ+ community at Brigham Young University. Please enjoy this episode responsibly...preferably with no musket fire. Once again, Mormons gonna Morm.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

135: RIP, Mary's Mom [TW: Intense Themes] Aug 28, 2021

Hey friends, Mary's Mom passed away and we're unpacking it on this week's episode. TRIGGER WARNING: themes of death, sexual abuse, pedophilia, suicide and abortion are discussed. If these topics are triggering for you please listen carefully, listen with a friend, or feel free to skip this one.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

134: The Sin-Cast, part 1 Aug 22, 2021

What the heck is up with sin? Mary and Diana start to unpack this topic on this week's episode. We would like to thank our Patreon and Marco Polo Channels subscribers, along with members of the Latter-Day Lesbian Podcast Discussion Group on Facebook, for all of the candid contributions to this lively discussion. To support this podcast financially please visit www.latterdaylesbian.org/support.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

133: Coparenting After Divorce, part 1 Aug 15, 2021

This week we begin our in-depth discussion about coparenting after divorce. Spoiler alert: it's hard AF! Thanks to everyone on our social media channels who contributed to this conversation. We couldn't get to all of you this time, but there will definitely be a part 2, so more to come.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

132: Bob the Tomato Aug 08, 2021

This week we recount a tale about a recent harrowing brush with disaster! We also read a listener letter, discover more about who our sky daddy is, and are visited by Pirate God. Also, thanks to listener, Paige H, for the amazing and detailed wine charms!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

131: Mary & Shelly's Love Languages Jul 31, 2021

This week we talk about the various love languages, based on the book by Gary Chapman, and delve into which ones apply to each of us (yes Shelly, sex could be considered an act of service). But don't worry, we keep the discussion mostly above the belt and give the episode a PG-13 rating. But that pretty much applies to every episode, so there ya go.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

130: Those Annoying Mormons Jul 25, 2021

Today Diana joins us for a discussion about what obvious or implicit rules current members of the LDS church seem to be comfortable with bending. So grab your tankinis and get ready to show off those porn shoulders! We also stumble upon a surprise FUMPOTD (who knew)! And Diana has an announcement to make. So please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

129: Instructions for Lady Missionaries Jul 18, 2021

In this episode we read from a 1972 article in the LDS Ensign entitled, "A Letter to Girls About Lady Missionaries." We'd like to thank an LDL-er, Beck, for bringing this pile o' crap to our attention. And hidden inside this literary gem was a "She Said What" and a FUMPOTD, so it made for some excellent content, much eye rolling and loud laughter.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

128: Narcissism Follow Up, Part 2 Jul 10, 2021

In this episode, Kimberly joins us for part 2 of our follow up to our conversation about narcissism and codependency. We also read a letter from a listener who has benefitted from our Patreon support, so thank you, thank you to all of our LDL patrons! And also, special thanks to everyone who submitted questions that contributed to this amazing discussion.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

127: Narcissism Follow Up, Part 1 Jun 14, 2021

This week Kimberly joins us for part 1 of a 2-part follow up to our narcissism and codependency discussion. Shelly shares a personal story about her struggle with a narcissist. Also, we come up with a potentially lucrative food truck idea, and Uncle Pirate God pays us a visit. Be afraid.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

126: Segments R Us Jun 07, 2021

This week is all about the segments, such as "Mormon Mad-libs" and "Shiver Me Scriptures." We also read a letter and Shelly enlightens us once again from that riveting text: "Fascinating Womanhood." Please grab a cup of LDL After Dark (latterdaylesbian.org/coffee) and join us, won't you?
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

125: The STI Episode May 30, 2021

In this week's episode we have a couple admissions to make. But sharing promotes healing, right? At least that's what we're telling ourselves. We also read a letter and dive deep into Shelly's Journal Journey. And since we forgot to mention it, we'd like to retroactively thank our coffee sponsor, Mahogany Queen Coffee Co. Please visit www.latterdaylesbian.org/coffee for a promotional link. Thank you!

124: The LDL "Rivahcast" May 19, 2021

Greetings from our Potomac cottage - future Airbnb site. For this episode we set up the portable mics in the closet. It's not our studio space, unfortunately, but it will have to do. Join us for an update on our progress, a report on small-town living, a Mother's Day recap and more. We promise it'll be way more fun than a water bottle, douche and enema combo (for real - you can't make this stuff up).
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

123: Mother's Day Meanderings May 09, 2021

Happy Mom's Day. This week we take a look at motherhood through the lens of past LDS presidents. What a treat that is. We also read a listener letter, and Pirate God reads from the Book of Mormon and also *gulp* Patron names. Patrons, we apologize in advance for that.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

122: Filling Our Holes May 01, 2021

Welcome to the masturbation episode! Today we discuss the disciplinary hearing of sex therapist, Natasha Helfer. We also read an excerpt from former quorum of the twelve member, Mark E. Petersen, and discover his oh so progressive views on ways to abstain from self love. Once again, an LDS leader has provided some fantastic material. It's comedy gold, people.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

121: Aw Nuts! Apr 24, 2021

This week's theme seems to be man parts for some reason. Weird. We also recap general conference, make fun of sky daddy once again, and Sister Fanny Fact Check pays us a visit. Welcome back, sister!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

120: Narcissism (You Probably Think This Pod is About You) Apr 17, 2021

Today, Kimberly joins Mary for a fascinating discussion about Narcissistic Personality Disorder or NPD. We get sidetracked a bit (who, us?) with a tangent about animated Christmas specials, but Kimberly quickly figures out a way to relate it to the topic at hand. Thanks Kimberly! And don't worry folks, we don't actually get coked up in the beginning (turns out allergy season is also no joke).
References:
DSM-5 Personality Disorder criteria:
https://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/courses/materials/Narc.Pers.DSM.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1jmOalN-K4AXI3v8pJB8SNqkqRIOdInMiF6MtOQr1jUtskZSJKedzjSY4
About DSM-5:
https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/practice/dsm/history-of-the-dsm?fbclid=IwAR2csAi-vlptwfkb7A2FJRSAPtMvLFx-5CYNb8i_O4FXnF9vottq3LVsCZc
Institutional Narcissism info:
https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/09696470910927669/full/html?fbclid=IwAR2eI8hTWL48h92AfwwmNikL9Nj-Y04gKRt9OoX8S3wT4mPvuxpFQqcl8_s
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

119: Who's Your Sky Daddy? Apr 10, 2021

This week we check out some random Bible versus and discover how truly kind and loving Sky Dad is. And by kind and loving we mean vengeful and petty. So that's a neat li'l treat. Speaking of dads...Shelly unpacks some hard realizations about hers. Oh, and Pirate God reads from the Book of Mormon. We want to thank a listener, Paige, for providing that fun idea.
We also want to give a shout out to our new coffee sponsor, Mahogany Queen Coffee Co with their new LDL "After Dark" blend. To find out more just cut/paste this link into a browser: https://latterdaylesbian.org/coffee, or head to our website and click the coffee tab. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

118: Meet Craig Call, the Grandson of Richard G. Scott Apr 03, 2021

A heads up - we discuss sexual themes in today's episode that features an interview with Craig Call, the bisexual grandson of Richard G. Scott. Find out what it's like to grow up with a member of the Quorum of the Twelve. We also discover Craig's love for languages, his interest in pornography and consensual non monogamy. Possibly not what grandpa had in mind. Welcome Craig!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

117: The LDL "Roadcast" Mar 27, 2021

Welcome to our first-ever "roadcast." We decided to record this one heading back from Mary's Mom's place in Norfolk, VA. Listen to find out if Mary misses her exit or if Shelly passes out from holding her breath in the Hampton Roads tunnel. There's also a riveting story involving an Arby's milkshake, a "he said what," plus Pirate God makes an appearance. Enjoy!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

116: Kimberly's Therapist on Therapist Podcast Mar 20, 2021

Please join this week's guest host, our very own Kimberly Anderson, as she brings us an episode of HER new podcast: Therapist on Therapist. Check it out wherever you listen to podcasts, or here: https://anchor.fm/kimberly-anderson-mft

115: Up Close and Personal with HB 92 and 302 Mar 14, 2021

Please join us for an in-depth conversation with Lance Sweeten and his transgender daughter, Gwen. We talk about their struggle with LDS church leadership during Gwen's transition, and discuss these very important pieces of Utah legislation.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

114: Getting to Know OurShelves Mar 06, 2021

This week we talk to Alli Harper, cofounder of OurShelves: a website that curates high-quality children's books that feature racially and ethnically diverse, LGBTQ+, and feminist characters and families, among other currently under-represented identities in children's books. We also uncover a new marketing strategy for Subaru in the lesbian space.
https://www.ourshelves.com, and on social media: @ourshelveskids
#OwnVoices - Corinne Duyvis
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com

113: The NeverMos Speak Feb 20, 2021

This week we hear from 3 NeverMos who describe their own struggle with leaving religion and coming to terms with their sexuality. Turns out Mormons don't have exclusive ownership of that process. We want to thank Andrea (Annie), Kelsey and Libbie for bravely sharing their stories. And if you would like to send us a letter please visit www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thank you!
Music provided by Purple Planet: www.purple-planet.com.

112: Kimberly's Bucket Theory Feb 13, 2021

When you listen to this week's episode you'll find out just what her theory is (it may or may not have something to do with shit). Today we talk codependency, and if you were raised in a high-demand religion, you might be inclined to "put a finger down" at some point during this conversation (that will also make more sense when you listen). We're getting into it today, so please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

111: A Visit from Lord Zakuza Feb 06, 2021

Welcome to this week's mixed bag o' goodies. From trauma processing to FUMPOTD's, licked pork chops, wand games and botched barbershop "duets" (not a thing)...this episode is what we like to call planned ramblings. Also we have a report from Flourish Therapy about how many counseling sessions your Patreon tithing dollars paid for in 2020. Special thanks to all of our Patrons for their continued financial support. We couldn't do this without you!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

110: Closer (and Closer) to Fine Jan 30, 2021

This episode is all about our most recent guest's spiritual journey known as Evolutionary Astrology. Mary and Linda have known each other for nearly 30 years, and they talk about how they met, what brought Linda to Atlanta, GA, and what became a big part of Linda's karmic story: when her path intersected with the Indigo Girls. It's a fascinating conversation that we hope you enjoy.
References from this episode:
Linda's Facebook Page: Empoweryourself Astrology:
https://www.facebook.com/Empoweryourself-Astrology-112357780421949
Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch
Journey of Souls by Michael Newton
Jeffrey Wolf Green: School of Evolutionary Astrology
Kim Marie Weimer: Evolutionary Astrology Network
Musician Michelle Malone: https://www.michellemalone.com
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

109: Fitted for Preparation Jan 23, 2021

This week we discuss the latest revisions to the Mormon handbook, Shelly quizzes Mary on a FUMPOTD (raise your hand if you think Mary got this one), and Pirate God pays us a visit. Enjoy!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

108: Leave it in, Dan Jan 16, 2021

Please welcome Extension Audio Dan to this week's episode! Dan is the audio genius behind the LDL sound we love so much. You can get to know Dan and all of his interests and endeavors by checking out the websites: www.danleefury.com and www.extensionaudio.com. In the show, Dan references the book "The Denial of Death" by Earnest Becker, his band, Umbrellaman, and two podcasts he's involved in: Everywhere You Go is Bullshit, and Siblings in Zion, that he records with his sister Lisa.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

107: New Year, New Boundaries Jan 09, 2021

We're back in the hosting seat for good! This week we take a brief look back and check in on Shelly's boundary setting (way to go, Shelly). We also hear from Sister Fanny Fact Check about Hula Hoops. And if you enjoy our new logo, take a look out the work of Erin Provenzano, the designer who helped us make it: https://behance.net/erinpro. Thanks for your help, Erin!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

106: Personal Inventory Jan 02, 2021

This week our final guest hosts, Kimberly and Diana, discuss what it's like to look back at accomplishments we might not even be aware of. They also declare themselves champions of the bare minimum, talk about hair identity and when virtue signaling is okay.
A giant LDL thanks to all of our guest hosts this holiday season!!! We are profoundly grateful! And as always, music is provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

105: Mo-Tab Ruined Sleigh Ride AGAIN Dec 25, 2020

Hey everybody, we're back hosting again this week! Did ya miss us? We thought it would be appropriate to dust off a holiday-themed FUMPOTD, and Sister Fanny Fact Check pays us a visit. Happy holidays, however you choose to spend them, and eff off 2020!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

104: It Started With a Hand on Her Leg Dec 19, 2020

Please welcome this week's LDL guest hosts, Elena Joy Thurston and her girlfriend, Kristen. Often the guest on numerous podcasts, Elena turns the tables and interviews Kirsten this time. They discuss coming out stories and how Mormonism basically effed them both. Elena heads up the Pride & Joy Foundation whose mission is to decrease the rate of suicide and homelessness in the LGBTQ space. for more info check out www.prideandjoyfoundation.com.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

103: Navigating the Holidays During COVID Dec 12, 2020

Please give a warm LDL welcome to this week's special guest hosts: Pelayo and Melissa from The Forbidden Apple Podcast. They discuss traditions surrounding the holidays, what to keep and what to discard....like lighting candles and shoving grapes into your mouth at lighting speed (don't choke, Pelayo). They wrap it up with a commitment to intentional rituals that connect us to ourselves. It's a wonderful episode, so we hope you all give a listen.
Reach out to Pelayo and Melissa on instagram @theforbiddenapplepodcast, Pelayo can be found on YouTube at Pelayo AF and check out The Forbidden Apple on your favorite podcast player!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

102: LDL's Sexual Debut Dec 05, 2020

Please join this week's guest hosts, Jules Hannaford and Sara Tang. Jules produces two podcasts, "Hong Kong Confidential," which she hosts, and "Fool Me Twice," the award-winning, true-crime podcast based on her memoir by the same name. Sara is an educator, writer, sexologist, sex coach and creator of the "Better in Bed" podcast. Both of these amazing women live in Hong Kong, and we're super excited to have them discuss the intersection of sex and religion (among other things) on today's show, so please give them a warm LDL welcome!
You can follow Sara at www.sarasense.com or on Instagram @hellosarasense.
Follow Jules at www.foolmetwicepod.com or on Instagram @hongkongconfidential or @foolmetwicejh. Listen to Hong Kong Confidential podcast at https://www.hongkongconfidential.net.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

101: Brother Joe, Just Say No Nov 28, 2020

Was Joseph Smith into drugs?? And did he drug his congregation??? We're gonna "high" to Kolob in today's episode that features guest hosts, Bryce Blankenagel, of the Naked Mormonism podcast, and our favorite therapist, Kimberly Anderson. Bryce presents strong evidence for the alleged use of psychedelics in the early Mormon church. And be advised, the LDL podcast and our guests in no way advocate for illegal drug use of any kind. Don't try this at home kids.
For further study:
Mormonism Unveiled by Eber D. Howe
Studies of the Book of Mormon by B.H. Roberts
"The Higher Powers of Man" by Frederick M Smith (FUMPOTD inspiration)
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com

100: LDL Listeners Speak! Nov 21, 2020

Whattya know,, we made it to 100!! And we put the call out for audio submissions and you answered! A huge thanks and sloppy wet kisses to everyone who contributed and also to every single one of our listeners! This Thanksgiving we feel grateful for all the ways in which we are loved and supported!! We couldn't do this without you!!!!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

99: Conversion Therapy Survivor Nathan Winterton Nov 14, 2020

Trigger Warning: in this episode we discuss delicate themes such as conversion therapy, anorexia and suicidal ideation. If these topics are triggering for you, feel free to pause the recording, listen in a supportive environment or skip this one. In the fall of 2019, Nathan Winterton pulled over to the side of the road because they couldn't stop the flow of tears over the news that the LDS church essentially defended the practice of conversion therapy by attempting to prevent the passing of a Utah state law that would make it illegal. That day, Nathan took a selfie that went viral on social media. A year later, they agreed to come on our podcast and talk about it. We feel honored that Nathan so openly shared their experience with all of us. It's an extraordinary story.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

98: If Jesus Had Been to Therapy Nov 07, 2020

Fair warning: this week we get a bit sacrilegious and come to the conclusion that 2,000 years may not actually be enough time to process trauma, so you take your time Jesus. Annnnnd...we're back in the temple for the LAST TIME!! Bye bye LDS temple. Try not to let the door hit ya where HF split ya! We also, want to give a special thank you to Pirate God for their contribution to the temple episodes. Pirate God is a non-binary being and requests they/them pronouns. They thank you.

97: Low Hanging Fruit Oct 31, 2020

In this episode we discuss our amazing trip to Utah and Mary's 10-year-old boy joke (she really can't help herself). Also, we hear from our long lost Sister Fanny Fact Check. Welcome back Sister! You have been missed. Oh, and we're back in the temple briefly. Thankfully, we're almost out of there. Enjoy!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

96: Kimberly Validates All of Us Oct 24, 2020

This week, Shelly gets some much needed rest as Mary and Kimberly Anderson, MFA, MA, AMFT, discuss resiliency, guilt, shame and lots more. If this episode causes you to trigger, please feel free to step away or listen in a supportive environment, and you can always refer to the below links for help.
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 800-273-8255 / https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org
Trans Lifeline: 877-565-8860 / https://www.translifeline.org
The Trevor Project: 1-866-488-7386 / https://www.thetrevorproject.org
Alliance of Hope support groups: https://allianceofhope.org/find-support/find-a-support-group
LGBTQ+ subsidized therapy: https://flourishtherapy.org
Find a therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us
Topics in today's episode:
Neil deGrasse Tyson: Stardust: https://youtu.be/kl0J6Le5MpM
John Bowlby: attachment theory: http://homework: research on attachment theory - John Bowlby https://heeoe.hee.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/attachment_disorders.pdf
Further reading on attachment theory: https://www.csyw.qld.gov.au/resources/dcsyw/child-family/foster-kinship-care/training/attachment-handouts.pdf
James Marcia: Identity Foreclosure: https://www.gracepointwellness.org/1310-child-development-theory-adolescence-12-24/article/41164-james-marcia-and-self-identity
Podcast: Therapist Uncensored: https://therapistuncensored.com/episodes/
Music Provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com

95: Mary & Diana on Family: When Less is More Oct 17, 2020

This week Diana keeps "Shelly's seat warm" and picks up the guest hosting slot. I stump her on a FUMPOTD courtesy of Bryce Blankenagel of the Naked Mormonism podcast. She and I also discuss family relationships and boundary setting, as well as attempts to fill the "bottomless well" of affirmation needs. It's a good one, so please give a listen on your favorite podcast app.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

94: So Long Lucifer Oct 10, 2020

Sooo....Shelly lied. We are actually back in the temple today for Lucifer's farewell speech. It's a classic. Shelly also dons a hideous temple outfit sent in by a listener (robe, apron, sash, veil). We also read an inspiring letter, and hear how some more LDL'ers got into our discussion group on Facebook.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

93: Lucifer's New Name Oct 03, 2020

We are STILL in the stupid temple. Seriously so dumb. Pirate God pays us a visit there...in fact, you may actually find yourself thinking, "will someone please make Pirate God shut up???" We also discover what more folks said to "get into the group," and this episode wouldn't be complete without another triggering entry from Shelly's creepy 1990's journal. Join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

92: Little White Bible Sep 27, 2020

Yup, this week we get up close and personal with the Mormon Missionary handbook. So ditch those toe rings and break out a ruler cuz those sideburns are looking a little shaggy. We also find out what more listeners said to get into the group, and learn about Lucifer's ATM machine. Join us!!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

91: Non-Repulsive Greasy Sneezes Sep 19, 2020

Could today's title have something to do with a new Mormon Mad Lib??? Bow your head and say yes (cuz it has something to do with the temple too). We also read a few short letters and debut a brand-new segment that features creative responses from some of our badass listeners!!!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

90: Adam Plays the Blame Game Sep 12, 2020

This week we get to listen to Adam pull some really dick moves. But before that we read a few short letters, hear a listener's Journal Journey and Shelly reads a slam poem that's pretty slammin' (couldn't resist). Please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

89: Welcome to the Stage: Lucifer! Sep 06, 2020

Yup, we're back in the temple with Eden's most dramatic thespian: Lucifer! Get ready to give Shelly your biggest golf clap for her amazing adversary impression. We also read a wild letter (buckle up) and pirate god even makes an appearance. Or perhaps we should say, "Even...Pirate God." Enjoy!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

88: Pirate God, A.K.A. the F-Bomb Episode Aug 29, 2020

We're back in the temple once again for the start of the riveting endowment movie, which turns out to pretty much be the regular ol' creation story with a bit of poetic license. We also roast a troll, talk like a pirate and Shelly stumps Mary on this week's FUMPOTD. Join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

87: Check Out My Endowment Aug 23, 2020

This week we're still in the wacky LDS temple. If new names and endowment ceremonies are your thing (whatever those are) then you're in for a treat. There's also a FUMPOTD that Mary nails for a change. So pop a mint and get comfortable - we're going to the temple!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com

86: Temple Pt 2: Get Your Hands Out of My Poncho Aug 15, 2020

In this week's episode Mary learns about more mid 1990s Mormon Temple creepiness, er, rituals, this time involving inappropriate touching. Plus, we're also horrified to find out what Hitler is promised in his afterlife. There's also a FUMPOTD, and we want to remind listeners about clean and explicit "call of the day" ringtones for all Patrons and Marco Polo Channels members!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

85: Hitler Becomes a Mormon & Other LDS Temple Wackiness Aug 08, 2020

We're finally FINALLY getting around to discussing LDS temple rituals. These are neither sacred nor secret since Shelly's spilling the beans on this goofy stuff. This will be part 1 of a multi-part series. We also have a great FUMPOTD and an inspiring letter to read. Please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

84: Patriarchal Blessing B.S. Aug 02, 2020

In today's episode we get up close and personal with the cut and pasted splendor that is the Mormon Patriarchal Blessing. Is everyone throwing up in their mouths? Because that's the appropriate response. We kick things off with our good friend and Mormon history buff, Bryce Blankenagel. We also roast a troll or two, and stump Shelly with a FUMPOTD, courtesy, once again of Mr. Blankenagel. Bryce, are your ears burning? They should be.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

83: COVID Couples Counseling Part Deux Jul 26, 2020

Looks like we needed to head back to the counseling couch this week for another session of "therapy without a therapist." Maybe don't try that at home. We also have a FUMPOTD courtesy of Alice, a "He Said What" that's particularly douchey and a letter from Cole that we think you'll find inspirational. It's a good time, y'all, so please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

82: The Newly-Les Game! Jul 19, 2020

Welcome to the first (and probably only) installment of the Newly-Les Game hosted by our good friend Diana! We'd like to say we crushed this game...we really would...but it soon turned into a total shit show. We discovered that Shelly is a hopeless romantic and that Mary doesn't understand what junk food is for some reason. We also have a super intellectual and cringey FUMPOTD from Bryce Blankenagel that Shelly would like to announce to everyone that she won (for a change). So be informed of this miraculous victory, and please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

81: Mary Gets Vulnerable About Kids Jul 12, 2020

In this episode Mary gives Shelly a break and takes over the planning. She quizzes her on a FUMPOTD (thanks Bryce Blankenagel) and comes up with an evangelical mad lib. Also Sister Fanny Fact-Check pays a visit with another installment of "Deep Dives into Dire Doctrine." This one's chock full, so please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com

80: Suicide Safety and Prevention with Kimberly Anderson, MFA, MA, AMFT Jul 05, 2020

After receiving an email from a listener who let us know that her girlfriend (also a listener) had recently died by suicide, we felt that we wanted to bring on therapist and friend, Kimberly Anderson, to help us navigate this topic. So this episode is dedicated to Charly. If someone you care about is contemplating suicide, please reference the links below for help. Thank you.
Kimberly is holding an open-to-the-public LGBTQ+ and Trauma Informed Suicide Education/Prevention workshop on July 12th at 7pm PST. Come one, come all. Also, please share: https://www.facebook.com/events/265060641466169/
QPR Institute: 800-273-TALK / Question. Persuade. Refer. https://qprinstitute.com
Safety Plan Template: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Brown_StanleySafetyPlanTemplate.pdf
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 800-273-8255 / https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org
Trans Lifeline: 877-565-8860 / https://www.translifeline.org
The Trevor Project: 1-866-488-7386 / https://www.thetrevorproject.org
Project Semicolon: https://projectsemicolon.com
American Foundation for Suicide Prevention: 800-273-8255 / Support groups: https://afsp.org/find-a-support-group/
Suicide Awareness Voices of Education: 800-273-8255 / Support groups: https://save.org/what-we-do/grief-support/
Alliance of Hope support groups: https://allianceofhope.org/find-support/find-a-support-group/
American Association of Suicidology support groups: https://suicidology.org/resources/support-groups/
LGBTQ+ subsidized therapy: https://flourishtherapy.org
Find a therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us
DBT explained: https://psychcentral.com/lib/an-overview-of-dialectical-behavior-therapy/
“Same Sex Attracted” – LGBT BYU documentary: 7/10 – 7/19 film festival tickets: https://www.utahfilmcenter.org/damntheseheels/dth2020/

79: Tired of the Transgender Bathroom Debate Jun 28, 2020

Seriously, can we all just get over this subject and move on to more important topics, like learning how to love one another? This week's "He Said What" is a real treat, not really. We also have a fun Mormon Mad Lib and we read a couple of great letters. Please join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

78: Reaction to the 6/15 Supreme Court Decision Jun 21, 2020

This week we interview our friend, LDL Podcast Discussion Group moderator and transgender activist, Alice Ashton, about her thoughts surrounding the recent Title VII Supreme Court ruling. We also roast a literal crap-ton of FB trolls (pretty sure that’s a metric unit). Please join us.
Shelly references a recent post about Dallin H. Oaks by Latter Gay Stories: https://www.facebook.com/LatterGayStories/posts/3266348586751666
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

77: Musician, Writer, Activist: Courtney Ariel Jun 14, 2020

In today's episode we are fortunate to have with us the inspiring and talented, a.k.a "loving blossom" (Shelly's term for her), Courtney Ariel. As you may remember, Courtney wrote the article we read last week, "For Our White Friends Desiring To Be Allies." Please join us for this enlightening conversation.
Courtney's recommendations and contact info:
BOOKS:
The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander
Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates (additionally he has written amazing/insightful articles featured in the news publication: The Atlantic)
Citizen by Claudia Rankine
Americanah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
White Fragility by Robin J. DiAngelo
FILM:
Must watch Film based off of James Baldwin works: "I am not your Negro"
SOJOURNERS PUBLICATION FEATURED ARTICLES:
https://sojo.net/biography/courtney-ariel
MUSIC:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/48wwNodTzVibSVGkuX8MjF
Apple Music: https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/courtney-ariel/id283282575
Tidal: https://tidal.com/browse/artist/7342329
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/courtneyariel
Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/courtney-ariel
SOCIAL MEDIA:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneyarielmusic
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/courtneyarielmusic
Twitter: https://twitter.com/carielmusic

76: Hey White People, Let’s Learn to Be Better Allies Jun 07, 2020

In this episode we read from various racist LDS documents, including the BOM and the words of various "prophets" of the Mormon church. But even though that's part of our history, in many cases, that's not where the story has to end. Let's do something about it! We start with a fantastic article by Courtney Ariel entitled, For Our White Friends Desiring to Be Allies. It's informative and eye opening; hopefully you get as much out of it as we did. We also recommend the list of books, below.
Michelle Alexander: The New Jim Crow
Ta-Nehisi Coates: Between the World and Me
Claudia Rankine: Citizen
Ibram X. Kendi: Stamped from the Beginning / How to Be an Antiracist
Crystal M. Fleming: How to Be Less Stupid About Race
Ruby Hamad: White Tears/Brown Scars
Robin DiAngelo: White Fragility

75: Jesus Wants Me For a Lounge Chair May 31, 2020

This week we officially debut our Mormon Mad Libs segment, so take a load off on our lounge chair and enjoy. We also break out not three, but FOUR whole Ds for Sister Fanny Fact Check's: Deep Dives into Dire Doctrine. And finally, we finish a listener letter and read a "She Said What" that seems sort of like a cry for help. Poor, poor Wendy Nelson.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

74: In Plain Sight [WARNING: Intense Themes] May 24, 2020

This week's episode features our interview with multiple kidnapping and abuse survivor, Jan Broberg. Jan speaks candidly about her family's relationship with Robert "B" Berchtold, and the often negative reactions her parents had to endure (including hate mail) in order to let the truth come out. Her story is complicated, heartbreaking and intense, so please be advised.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

73: Shelly's Journal Journey May 17, 2020

In this episode we dust off the LDL singers to introduce a brand-new segment entitled (cue music): "Shelly's Journal Journey" (yeehaw)! Hopefully, you won't curse us for getting yet another musical stinger stuck in your head. Also, Sister Fanny Fact Check stops by for a visit, and we begin part 1 of a letter from a listener named Jenna. Grab a cup of devil's brew and enjoy!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

72: Mother's Day Mad Libs May 10, 2020

Yes, you read correctly - this week we play a fun Mad Libs game from a ridiculous brain washy LDS child's song that's somehow supposed to celebrate motherhood. We also read a letter from one kick-ass grandma (you have to be a mother to later be a grandmother, so it counts). So moms (and non moms), grab a generous pour of Apostate Coffee and join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

71: Girding Up Our Loins For Mother's Day May 03, 2020

Happy early Mother's Day everybody! Once again we read from the book "Woman" (written by 15 men) to learn all about how to be a good mother, and Shelly relates it to her own experience. Should be a good time. Also, we read a letter from a listener who's related by marriage to one of the aforementioned authors/experts on how to be female: Boyd K. Packer. Somebody's gotta be I guess. Nutty.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com.

70: Kimberly's Coping Tips Apr 26, 2020

Once again we are thrilled to welcome our good friend and therapist (not that she's our therapist or anything), the lovely, kind and compassionate, Kimberly Anderson. This time Kimberly offers some really good advice for thriving during the pandemic, and she also fills us in on what she's been up to.
To find Kimberly's CTR group, just head to Facebook and search for Conversion Therapy Recovery.
For self care, Kimberly recommends everyone Google Dialectical behavior therapy (DBT).
Check out Story Time with Miss Kimberly on YouTube: https://youtu.be/8zFW5LkcTuc
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

69: COVID Couples Counseling Apr 19, 2020

In this episode Mary and Shelly take part in a couples counseling session without the help of a therapist (you're welcome, listeners). Also, Diana joins us for a fun Q & A, and Mary may or may not stump Diana and Shelly with this week's FUMPOTD. Hope you enjoy!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

68: Next Stop - Gay Town Apr 12, 2020

In this episode we learn how to be a WOMAN with the help of some old Mormon dudes who evidently wrote the book on the subject. Also Sister Fanny Fact Check enlightens us during this week's FUMPOTD. And we read a letter from a listener named Taylor who might live in a magical place known as Gay Town (she's at least stopped by a time or two).
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

67: TED Talkin' With Elena Joy Thurston Apr 05, 2020

Please join us for this week's interview with conversion therapy survivor, ex-Mormon and out lesbian: Elena Joy Thurston. Elena gave a TEDx Talk about her conversion therapy experience that you can view on YouTube: https://youtu.be/rIhPZMC4UEg. She's also a mindfulness coach and public speaker. Check out her website for more info at elenajoyexperience.com.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

LDL Letters 35: Someone's in the Kitchen With Dinah Apr 01, 2020

Today we read a letter from Dinah who's led quite the life! After battling an attraction for women and serving a mission, she finally gave a big middle finger to the church and started her life back over in San Francisco during the 1960s, eventually becoming an activist. It's a good one, so we hope you join us.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at http://latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

66: Taste the Forbidden Apple Mar 29, 2020

An ex Hasidic Jew, an ex Catholic, an ex Evangelical and an ex Mormon walk into a bar...except for the bar part (cuz it's COVID-19). Meet Melissa and Pelayo, hosts of the Forbidden Apple podcast! It's all about life after religion. Fanny Fact Check shows up too! So please join us for a great episode.
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LDL Letters 34: Bible-Believing Baptists and Birthing Advice Mar 25, 2020

Today we hear from Marie about her strict, King James Version Baptist upbringing. Who knew that was a thing? Also, Trishelle talks about her entire extended Mormon family being present for the birth of at least one of her children. Yikes!
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at http://latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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65: A True Prophet of the Lard! Mar 22, 2020

In today's episode we talk about some Mormon reactions to COVID-19. Hey, guess what? Russell M. Nelson is NOT an actual prophet, people. He's just a dude with way too much authority (in our opinion). We also have a terrific FUMPOTD, and Sister Fanny Fact Check helps us out with that one. So put in your earbuds and practice social distancing with your favorite ex-Mo-lesbo podcast, won't you?
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LDL Letters 33: Bussing in the Missionaries Mar 18, 2020

In this episode we read a letter from Amber, a Southern Baptist, who as a kid learned to catalog her sins and ask forgiveness for each one. Sounds like a good time. Hope you join us.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at http://latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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64: Time to Flourish Mar 15, 2020

In this episode we learn all about a cause near and dear to us: Flourish Therapy. Part of every LDL Patreon dollar goes to to support this organization. We interview Lisa Hansen PHD, LMFT and Clinical Director of Flourish Therapy. We also talk to Blaire Ostler, a self described queer, Mormon Transhumanist and author, with a book in the works about queer Mormon theology set to be published this summer.
Find out more at https://flourishtherapy.org and http://www.blaireostler.com.
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LDL Letters 32: Crushing Christian Ethics Class Mar 11, 2020

Today we read a letter from Natalie S, who attended a fundamentalist Christian high school. What a good time that must have been. She has a great story to tell, so enjoy!
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at http://latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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63: Zelph Hung Out On Our Shelf Mar 08, 2020

As the episode title implies, we interviewed Samantha and Tanner from Zelph on the Shelf! Aw hell yeah! What a fun time as we got to know these two and heard their amazing insights into spirituality and their journeys out of Mormonism and into the inspiring humans they are today.
Some Zelph on the Shelf YouTube videos of note: Provo's Most Eligible, High on a Mountain Top, and Mormonforcement Exposes Zelph on the Shelf.
Samantha references Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harare and Inner Bonding by Margaret Paul.
Tanner references British writer and lecturer, Alan Watts, poet Mary Oliver, and American ethnobotanist and mystic, Terence McKenna.
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LDL Letters 31: Amy's Handbook Outrage Mar 04, 2020

Turns out we're not finished discussing the updated LDS handbook. This week we read a letter from our good friend Amy who has some definite thoughts on the subject. Get riled up with us, won't you?
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at http://latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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62: A Big Fetch You to the Handbook! Mar 01, 2020

This episode is all about the Mormon handbook's new policies against transgender people. Let's all raise a middle finger in the general direction of the LDS temple (it's as if Moroni is flipping a bird instead of blowing his trumpet). Along these lines, we also read a letter to the SLC Tribune written by our good friend Kimberly Anderson. So please grab a generous cup of outrage and join us, won't you?
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LDL Letters 30: Pass the Gravy and the Guilt-n-Shame Feb 26, 2020

This episode features letters from new name Laverne and Katheryn. Laverne was told by her church leaders to take on more and more responsibility (including raising her siblings) in order to please her deceased step mother. Makes total sense and seems about right for the Mormon church (insert eye rolling emoji). And we read about Katheryn bravely walking out on her abusive adoptive father's Thanksgiving dinner. Way to go, Katheryn!
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at http://latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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61: Something About Mary Feb 23, 2020

This episode is pretty much all about Mary. In recognition of her recent interview on the Brave Files Podcast (episode #101 available on your favorite podcast app), we decided to dedicate this show to the Ed McMahon, or in more relevant terms, the Andy Richter of podcast hosts: Mary Rutt. Warning: it gets heavy and downright depressing at times. There. You've been warned. We also have a FUMPOTD, a He Said What, and Sister Fanny Fact Check pays us a visit.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

LDL Letters 29: My Pastor Wanted to Kill People Feb 19, 2020

This episode features a letter from Elizabeth. She's a never Mo, ex evangelical...which is also fun (uh, that was sarcasm). Her minister compared her interest in women to his interest in murdering people. Sounds like a great guy (also sarcastic). Give a listen, won't you?
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at http://latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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60: Pure: Interview with Author Linda Kay Klein Feb 16, 2020

In this episode we interview Linda Kay Klein, author of Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. This was a fascinating episode and one to not miss (in our humble opinions). Linda references her website: lindakayklein.com, her non profit organization: breakfreetogether.org and David Dickerson who authored: House of Cards: The True Story of How a 26-Year-Old Fundamentalist Virgin Learned about Life, Love, and Sex by Writing Greeting Cards.
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LDL Letters 28: Rocky Little Shop of Horrors Feb 12, 2020

This week's letter is from Ari, a never-mo transgender woman who met her fiancé during a performance of a very iconic cult classic. Can you guess which one based on the title of this episode? Pretty sure Shelly is still confused. Hint: there's no Venus flytrap character. So grab a cup of Apostate Coffee and give a listen, won't you?
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59: We're Feeling A Bit Trunky Feb 09, 2020

In this episode we read a series of reports from our plant inside the Mission Training Center (we're sneakier than the Mormon Strengthening Church Members Committee). Also, we have an amazing FUMPOTD, and we hear from Sister Fanny Fact Check. Then special guest, Annie, recounts the best ways to manipulate potential converts (you crushed it, Annie). Please join us, won't you?
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LDL Letters 27: What's In A Name? Feb 05, 2020

This week's letter writer cracks Mary up, as in, a big belly laugh. Shelly is left a bit baffled, proving what a difference an 8-year age gap can make. Confused? Give a listen to the episode and see what we mean.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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58: Mary & Shelly Break the Any-Ol'-Gram Test Feb 02, 2020

Diana joins us for another fast and testimony episode, and this time she tells us all about the Enneagram Test. We can't seem to get the name right though...Banana Gram? Wait - Candy Gram? Uh...Teddy Grahams? And no, Shelly, you're not a "yellow" (no idea what test she's taking).
In this episode Diana references The Complete Enneagram by Beatrice Chestnut PhD, Neurobiologist Dr. Jerome Lubbe, and The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne Stabile.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

LDL Letters 26: Cult or Club? Chris Helps Us Decide. Jan 29, 2020

This week we hear from Chris on nude paintings, that caused the spirit to leave (and frightened neighborhood children), and rocking a Jesus beard. Way to break those Mormon norms, hairy Chris.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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57: Jerry Springer Inspired Me To Come Out Jan 26, 2020

Please give a listen to our amazing interview with special guest, Amy Stephens, cohost of the Transformation Thursday Podcast (available wherever you listen to podcasts). Amy is a hilarious stand-up comic, and her story is amazing! You will crack up and be inspired at the same time.
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LDL Letters 25: Molly Un-Mormon Makes Shelly Trigger Jan 22, 2020

This week we find out what if feels like to be considered past your marrying prime at the ripe old age of 31 and are asked to leave the singles ward. Yet another reason to feel shamed by Mormonism (but we expect no less at this point).
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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56: Ordinary Equality, Talking ERA with Kate Kelly Jan 19, 2020

Hey everybody, we're super excited about this week's interview with ex-Mormon activist and all around badass, Kate Kelly! We hear all about what she's been up to, and she wasn't afraid to tackle the tough questions we threw at her, like, "So Kate, is it true ya like the ladies?" We learned so much, and laughed of course...ya know, the usual. Also, want to express a heartfelt congratulations to the state of Virginia for finally getting their shit together! Join us, won't you?
Kate's references in this show: www.equalitynow.org/era, author Sonia Johnson: "From Housewife to Heretic", Kate's article: "The ERA is Queer", and of course her new podcast: Ordinary Equality (available wherever you listen to podcasts).
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

LDL Letters 24: Dorothy on Pregnant Mare Urine and Other Beauty Tips Jan 15, 2020

The drug, Premarin, is not a good idea. In fact, it's really inhumane to manufacture. We advise against taking it. And in this week's Latter-Day Lesbian letter, Dorothy tells us all about that and other Mormon prescribed opposite-sex-attracting methods and treatments. Should be a good time.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

55: How Mo Tab Ruined Sleigh Ride Jan 12, 2020

Did you know the LDS church changed a bunch of Christmas songs to sound more Mormony? We discuss a couple of them this week with the help of Sister Fanny Fact Check and Hermana Concha. We also roast a troll and talk about Mary's wacky holiday with her family. Please join us for our 2019 year-end wrap up. Should be a good one.
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LDL Letters 23: Annetta on Pirate Porn and The Priesthood Jan 08, 2020

Because one leads naturally to the other, right? Kidding. But somehow both are topics for this week's Latter-Day Lesbian Letters episode. And when your husband gives you tips for dating women, that's not awkward at all, right? Wowsers.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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54: Resolve to Not Resolve: A Better New Year's Tradition Jan 05, 2020

Diana joins us once again for our first podcast in 2020! In this episode we resolve to screw resolutions, embrace that inner child, and more hippy-dippy crap like that. Kumbaya listeners. You're welcome.
Once again Diana references Holistic Psychologist Dr. Nicole LePera. Check her out here: https://yourholisticpsychologist.com
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

FUMPOTD FESTIVUS: a 2019 Holiday Special (for the rest of us) Dec 23, 2019

Surprise! It's a gift from us to you in the form of an unexpected episode. We're revisiting our favorite FUMPOTDs of 2019. With the help of Sister Fanny Fact-Check, and of course, Brother Ben, we'll take a look back at the phrases that made us chuckle or just scratch our heads and wonder what Brother Joe was smokin. We hope you enjoy, and have a very happy holiday season!
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53: Trauma Bonding, a.k.a. Mary & Shelly's Intervention Nov 24, 2019

Today we are joined by therapist and good friend, Kimberly Anderson, who helps us to breathe and process a few of our issues. Should be a triggering good time. Once again we encourage you to pour a generous serving of Apostate Coffee's Les-BEAN blend (https://apostatecoffee.com) and snuggle up.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

LDL Letters 22: Shelly Learns the Difference Between Scotland and Ireland Nov 20, 2019

In this episode, Sarah describes her life going from the American West to way across the pond, and then to her ultimate destination: discovering she was a transgender woman. Shelly, meanwhile, is either confused about geography or about alcohol. We're not sure. So grab a cup of Les-BEAN Apostate Coffee (https://apostatecoffee.com), with or without Bailey's IRISH Cream, and have a listen!
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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52: When Your A-Hole Ex Is Still Dragging Your Kids To Church Nov 17, 2019

In this episode we are joined once again by Ammy and Jennifer, who speak candidly about Jennifer's TBM ex and her kids who are continuing to be brainwashed by the LDS church and their bigoted father. This conversation is cathartic for anyone in this same situation, so grab a cup of Apostate Coffee's Les-BEAN blend (https://apostatecoffee.com) and get comfy.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

LDL Letters 21: Melody Joy on Knowing Too Much and Learning to Lie Nov 13, 2019

In this episode, listener Melody Joy provides us with a list of past superlatives, because after all, Mormons have to be the best, right? Speaking of...we also talk about how Joseph Smith was the best treasure hunter, scoundrel, philanderer, pedophile, adulterer, presidential wannabe, and charmer of women of all ages…for starters (and those were his good points). Join us, won’t you?
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

51: Lady Brains Are Like Pancakes and Spaghetti Nov 10, 2019

Did you know that women's minds are like pancakes and men's are like waffles? That was the teaching from one seminar. Another said they're more like spaghetti. To which we say YUM - brains have never sounded more delicious! Join guests Ammy and Jennifer for a rousing discussion about our carbo-loaded grey matter.
The article discussed in this episode: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/women-ernst-young-how-to-dress-act-around-men_n_5da721eee4b002e33e78606a
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LDL Letters 20: Molly writes, "Don't judge my mom bod" Nov 06, 2019

Welcome to Episode 20 of LDL Letters! In this episode Molly (Not So Mormon) talks about being a single "menace to society," to quote brother Brigham. What a douche!
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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50: Meet Your New Bestie: BOUNDARIES! Nov 03, 2019

Nothing beats a good boundary...except maybe another boundary. Diana and Ben join us as we figure out what these things are and why we need `em. Should be a good time.
Further study mentioned in this episode: Dr. Nicole LePer, The Holistic Psychologist: https://yourholisticpsychologist.com, and "You Are Your Own": A Reckoning with the Religious Trauma of Evangelical Christianity by Jamie Lee Finch
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LDL Letters 19: Glen, the "Pasthole" Oct 30, 2019

Welcome to Episode 19 of LDL Letters! In this episode Glen describes his journey from a-hole (or "pasthole") to ally. What a total transformation! We perhaps "letter shamed" Glen when we met him at the Protect Every Child rally, so we really appreciate him writing in and being willing to share his story!
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

49: "It Shouldn't Be Hard" (cuz we're lesbians, get it?) Oct 27, 2019

This week, Fanny Fact Check recorded here in person! She and her "companion" were our visiting teachers. Mary felt a bit funny about the visit, to which she was reminded that "the spirit" was simply letting her know she was misbehaving. Glad we could clear that up. Also, the FUMPOTD is obviously fake, and Bednar is the subject of a self-righteous, "He Said What?!?" Should be a good time!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://purple-planet.com

LDL Letters 18: Charly and Dayna Oct 23, 2019

Welcome to Episode 18 of LDL Letters! In this episode we hear from Charly, a teenager who can't wait to move out of what she refers to as the "stupid" state of Utah. And Dayna only took two years to transition from Mormon missionary to out lesbian. Good job! Should be a great one, so please join us!
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

48: Conversion therapy for kids? Suck it, Mormon church! Oct 20, 2019

On this episode we discuss the LDS recent opinions over the debate about the ban on conversion therapy. Uh yeah. Just when you think this crap can't get any crazier. Ugh! Also, Fanny Fact Check helps figure out what a Zelph it is. Turns out it has nothing to do with a shelf. Go figure. All that and more, so please give a listen!
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LDL Letters 17: Melissa and Lara Oct 16, 2019

Welcome to Episode 17 of LDL Letters! In this episode Melissa compares her Presbyterian upbringing to Mormonism, and Lara talks about being raised as both Mormon and Fundamentalist Christian. Nutty! Mary's starting to think it's all fake.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
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47: Practically Live from the Protect Every Child Rally Oct 13, 2019

Join us for an amazing Testimony Meeting from our Utah meet-n-greet the day after the Protect Every Child March and Rally in Salt Lake City. Mary enjoys her first sip of "Pay Lay Ale," which is not actually a Joseph Smith inspired micro brew, it's the most recent FUMPOTD. Also, the audience helps us with a special Butthole Bednar, "He Said What" segment. Please join us! We desire all to partake.
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LDL Letters 16: Amy's Tribute Oct 09, 2019

Welcome to Episode 16 of LDL Letters! In this episode Amy writes in with a tribute to her first love, Jean Anne. It's a heartbreaking story of the intense pressure churches often inflict in an effort to get us to conform to their impossible religious standards. Stories like this can be terribly sad, but can also provide a way for us to heal and help put an end to the oppressive control and abuse doled out in the name of God.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. We'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

46: Leaving Religion? Here's What To Pack. Oct 06, 2019

Diana's back! And she has some great tips on what to take with you when you leave religion. Some stuff is actually cool, and it's yours to keep! Find out what during this super interesting conversation (well, at least we think so). Also, Fanny Fact Check enlightens us once again, and Mary (the never mo) stumps Shelly and Diana on an amazing FUMPOTD (thanks, Bryce Blankenagel).
Recommended reading:
Faith: Trusting Your Own Deepest Experience by Sharon Salzberg
and Finding God in the Waves by Mike McHargue (Science Mike)
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LDL Letters 15: Ben and Martie Oct 02, 2019

Welcome to Episode 15 of LDL Letters! This week: Ben comes out to his wife as asexual, and Martie discloses sexual abuse by a family member and later by a Mormon bishop. Warning: this episode discusses violent themes, but we feel it's important to shed light on the abuse that can occur within religious institutions. As a reminder, we will be at the Protect Every Child march in Salt Lake City on October 5th. Please join us as we bring awareness to this really important issue.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

45 - Living Bravely with Heather Vickery Sep 29, 2019

Please join us for a fun, engaging and enlightening conversation with dear friend, fellow podcaster and success coach, Heather Vickery! We are super pumped to have Heather as a guest. We fell head over heels in love with her and think you will too.
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LDL Letters 14: Heather and Madyson Sep 25, 2019

Welcome to Episode 14 of LDL Letters! This week: Heather almost gets sucked into hell by an earthquake, and Madyson asks for advice on how to stay strong surrounded by TBM family members. Yikes!
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

44 - Unpacking Conversion Therapy Sep 22, 2019

Join us for an intimate conversation with special guests Angela and Alli, as we discuss Angela's upbringing in the Catholic Church, her horrifying conversion therapy experience, and how the couple view spirituality today.
Warning: this episode covers violent themes; it's raw, at times hilarious, painful and inspiring all at once. We hope you agree.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

LDL Letters 13: Elise and Kim Sep 18, 2019

Welcome to Episode 13 of LDL Letters! This week: Kim researches various faiths in Salt Lake City, and Elise asks for Shelly's advice on keeping her cool when dealing with Mormons. Hmm...Shelly's advice? Interesting. Good luck, Elise. Just kidding.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com

43: Live from Sister Space Sep 15, 2019

Join us live from Sister Space - a women's retreat held annually the first weekend after Labor Day in the Delaware Valley. This was our first "rustic retreat," which involved sleeping in cabins with a bunch of other women, and recording our podcast in a barn (no farm animals were injured as a result of making this episode)...and of course, the sex tent. Intrigued yet? We think it turned out pretty amazing in spite of the primitive conditions. For more information about Sister Space, please visit https://www.sisterspace.org.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

LDL Letters 12: Clark and Laurie - it's Portlandia day! Sep 11, 2019

Welcome to Episode 12 of LDL Letters! This week: Clark and Laurie - excommunication and winning at bishopric roulette. Warning: the second half of the episode deals with violent themes, so please be advised.
Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

42: No Crime in Sin: Interview with survivor, Kristy Johnson Sep 08, 2019

Hey everybody, this episode features our much anticipated interview with abuse survivor, Kristy Johnson. Her documentary, No Crime in Sin addresses the sexual abuse Kristy and her siblings underwent growing up in their ultra Mormon household. We hope you tune in for the interview, and we also encourage you to check out this life-changing film now playing on Amazon Prime Video.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

LDL Letters 11: Taylor and Elizabeth - still Mormon, but not necessarily TBM Sep 04, 2019

Welcome to Episode 11 of LDL Letters! This week: Taylor and Elizabeth - still Mormon, but not necessarily TBM. In fact, Taylor is gay and Elizabeth is pretty done. Still attending church, but feels done with it (it's complicated).
As a reminder, each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! So please get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

41: Talking Trans pt 2, with guests: Carolyn and Jamie Sep 01, 2019

We are back for part 2 of our interview with Carolyn and Jamie, two amazing listeners and members of the trans community. In this episode you'll learn about some of the things you may actually be saying to trans people when you misgender them. It's an informative and loving conversation, and we hope you join us!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

LDL Letters 10: Richard and Jen - we met you (and almost met you) at Utah pride Aug 28, 2019

Welcome to Episode 10 of LDL Letters! Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you!
As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

40: Coming Out? What a "Smart" Idea! Aug 25, 2019

As in, Ed Smart, obviously. Join us for a discussion about the coming out story that everyone's talking about. We admire Ed's courage and interest in living an authentic life. Also, things heat up a bit when Sister Fanny Fact Check waxes poetically about...um, what exactly is she talking about? We're not quite sure, but we like it. And finally -- ringtones are here. Or should we say, "hear?" Check 'em out.
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

LDL Letters 9: Kole and Kirsten on bishop confessions and other horrors Aug 21, 2019

Welcome to Episode 9 of LDL Letters! Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! Warning: this week's episode contains violent themes; some parts may be difficult to hear.
As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

39: Talking Trans pt 1, with guests: Carolyn and Jamie Aug 18, 2019

Join us for part 1 of our interview with Carolyn and Jamie, two amazing listeners and members of the trans community. It's an episode full of love, laughter and learning. Or as we like to say, the three Ls (we actually never say that, truth be told). Enjoy!
Music provided by Purple Planet: https://www.purple-planet.com.

LDL Letters 8: Meet Jill: sixteen-years-old and crushing it! Aug 14, 2019

Welcome to Episode 8 of LDL Letters! Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
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38: Fanny Fact-Check, Anti-Nephi-Lehies, Bryce Blankenagel Aug 11, 2019

Say that three times fast! Please help us welcome the host of Naked Mormonism, Bryce Blankenagel. Also, we turn the time over to Sister Fanny Fact-Check, and Shelly teaches Mary a lesson about covenants and obedience (i.e. guilt and shame). It's a real treat.
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LDL Letters 7: Carolyn and Erika Aug 07, 2019

Carolyn and Erika: Correct Pronouns & Christmas Present Apostasy
Welcome to Episode 7 of LDL Letters! Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
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37: Christianity Casserole with Special Guest: Grace Aug 04, 2019

Four Square, Quaker, Reiki, Charismatic, Anglo-Catholicism, and a bunch of other isms... Meet Grace...who has pretty much tried 'em all - except for Mormonism (though, she did go into a temple once). Learn all about Grace's fascinating and varied religious background, and how agnosticism may be the best "ism" of them all.
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LDL Letters 6: Maeri-Jo and Savannah on Starting Over Jul 31, 2019

Welcome to Episode 6 of LDL Letters! Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
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36: Introduction to Calvinism with special guest: Jessah Jul 28, 2019

Listeners, raise your hand if you think John Calvin was a nut job! If you're not familiar with Calvinism, then this episode should provide a bit of a primer. Our thanks to our friend and patron, Jessah, for her interesting point of view. You are predestined to enjoy it!
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LDL Letters 5: Abagail and Justin: Sexual Shaming and Shelves Breaking Jul 24, 2019

Welcome to Episode 5 of LDL Letters! Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at www.latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
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35: Happy Pioneer Day with Special Guest: Rachel Jul 21, 2019

Hey everybody, meet Rachel, a friend from Shelly's former ward and Trek survivor -- barely. She has a fantastic pioneer story to tell, plus we read a listener letter about Trekking through a foot of snow and burying a baby doll. Yup, that's a thing, apparently. Ah, Trek...what a special time in a young Mormon's life. Am I right? That was sarcasm, people.
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LDL Letters 4: Kris on Changing Yourself/Changing the World Jul 17, 2019

Welcome to Episode 4 of LDL Letters! Each week we read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
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34: Spirituality Discussion #2, with Diana Jul 14, 2019

Meet Diana, our Executive Director of Organization and the newest member of the team. And though she may not be a guest on our podcast every week, she definitely merits a full episode by way of introduction. Also, it's kinda fun when 3 extroverts with microphones vie for attention. So give it a listen...if you dare.
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LDL Letters 3: Ammy's Story Jul 10, 2019

Welcome to Episode 3 of LDL Letters! Each week we will read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
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33: You Two Slay Me (in the spirit) Jul 07, 2019

From charismatic spiritual types to the satanic temple...this topic truly is all over the place. Where have our listeners landed after religion? Give a listen and find out as we begin part 1 of our spirituality discussion. Enjoy!
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LDL Letters 2: Katherine & Summer Jul 03, 2019

Welcome to Episode 2 of LDL Letters! Each week we will read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
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32: Don't Brainwash My Kids (oh, and Philip pees down a waterslide) Jun 30, 2019

Shelly loses her sh*t (again), the toaster oven saga continues. and you may never want to visit the kiddie pool at Great Wolf Lodge. You've been warned.
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LDL Letters 1: Matt & Jessy Jun 26, 2019

Welcome to Episode 1 of LDL Letters! At least that's what we're calling it for now. Each week we will read and discuss 1-2 letters (depending on length) from listeners just like you! As a reminder, you can get in touch with us through our website at latterdaylesbian.org/contact. Thanks!
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31: Beehives, Mia Maids and Laurels - oh my! Jun 23, 2019

Ever wonder what the female equivalent of a priesthood holder is? Oh wait - there is no equivalent. Whoops, our bad. Oh well, it's fun to talk about it anyway. At least we think so. And maybe with this hint you can take a shot at this week's FUMPOTD...or at least guess at it better than Mary did. And considering she failed miserably you have a really good shot. You're welcome!
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30: Gettin' Our Drink on with Jesus at Adam's Crib Jun 16, 2019

This could be our most effed up FUMPOTD yet. Brother Joseph, how do you propose Adam and Eve got to the midwest? We're still trying to figure this out. Meanwhile, the deacons are passing out bread and WATER at sacrament meetings? Water?? Really? That's just insulting. If H20 can be turned into wine, we plan to partake while listening to the latest episode of LDL. Enjoy!
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29: Almost Live from Utah Pride Jun 09, 2019

Hey friends, did you swing by our SLC pride booth to say hi AND did we get a recording of you? Then take a listen to episode 29 - you might just hear yourself! We had such a blast visiting with so many of our current and future listeners! It was so great meeting all of you, and we'll see ya again next year!
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28: Speaking In Tongue Twisters Jun 02, 2019

Mary describes some more of her crazy evangelical past, Dallin H. Oaks gets a stern reprimand, and it's pride weekend in Salt Lake City, everybody. Time to celebrate!
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27: Not Your Typical Lipstick Lesbian May 26, 2019

If we would just put on a little lipstick we'd be much more charming...or at least some people think so. Find out who in our brand new segment: He Said What??? Also...*spoiler alert* we briefly talk about the Game of Thrones finale (consider yourself warned). And who knew a discussion about Trek would be so darn entertaining. Shelly in a bonnet?? You definitely want to hear about this one. Enjoy!
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26: The Little Factory ...um, that's gross May 19, 2019

Do you know the answer to today's FUMPOTD? If not, you're about to. Ew. And...you're welcome. In this episode we also ask for listener submissions to be included in an upcoming ex-Mormon expose. Plus we unpack reactions to Matt Easton coming out during his BYU valedictorian speech. Hope you enjoy.
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25: Age of Accountability (are you out of pull-ups yet)? May 12, 2019

This week's FUMPOTD especially sucks if you're Philip, or some other 8-year old who can barely navigate the school bus. We also discuss the follow up to Martinsburg, WV, and the families affected by sexual abuse covered up by the Mormon church. Yep, that happened. Why, Mormons, why???
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24: Spiritual Shaming, a.k.a. Mary's Rant May 05, 2019

Are you as sick of spiritual shaming as we are? Yeah?? We're fired up and wanna talk about it! We also share an excellent listener letter and a funny Philip story. So grab a sinful cup o' caffeine and lend an ear or two. Hope you enjoy!
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23: Protect Every Child with special guest Sam Young Apr 28, 2019

This is a really meaningful episode for us that features our very first guest, Sam Young. You'll hear all about his issues with the Mormon church, and the questions and objections that ultimately led to his excommunication. But Sam's story doesn't end there. His Protect Every Child initiative is changing hearts and lives, and we are excited to be part of it!
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22: Lehi's Brass Balls Apr 21, 2019

Who was Lehi and what was his brass ball doing outside of his tent? Find out on this weeks FUMPOTD! That's a whole lot of fun, and so is roasting this week's troll: President Russell M. Nelson himself! So pull up a seat and enjoy whatever beverage that will make the prophet's garments bunch up in the biggest knot. It's a good one!
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21: Heart Sell Apr 14, 2019

No, we're not peddling the Wilson sisters' latest rock ballad. It's this week's FUMPOTD. Check it out! Also, Shelly gets real about the "Exclusion Policy" and unexpected reversal. Get comfy, folks. It's a good one.
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20: Turn It Off (Like a Light Switch) Apr 07, 2019

Hey, look at that - we made it through 20 episodes! Wowsers! In this one we discuss seeing Book of Mormon (the musical) for the first time - hopefully the first of many times. Funny stuff! We also read a listener letter from a transgender fan, and pose the question, is it easier to come out as gay/lesbian or trans within the Mormon church? Hmm...something to think about. Hope you enjoy it.
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19: Tangy Pork Chops Mar 31, 2019

In this episode, Shelly reveals a secret family recipe. Maybe don't try this one at home, kids. Also, we read a listener letter to a parent, and Shelly talks about one of her own. And will Mary guess the FUMPOTD or will she just sort of guess it? Either way, it's worth a listen - at least we think so. Enjoy!
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18: Modest is Hottest Mar 24, 2019

Endure to the End, Quietly Obey, Modest is Hottest. All of these were contenders for our Effed Up Mormon Phrase of the Day. Which one made the cut? Listen and find out! In this episode we roast a troll, discuss double earring commentary by douchey elders, and realize that no matter how tough life gets, we could always be a leper, so maybe things aren't so bad after all. Enjoy!
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17: Kolob, A.K.A. the planet where God hangs out Mar 17, 2019

Where the heck is Kolob? We're still not sure, but we definitely talk about it ad nauseam in this episode. Put on your spacesuits and get ready to blast off to wherever God is... Or maybe just have a blast spending 45 minutes with Mary and Shelly. Enjoy!
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16: The Effed-Up Mormon Phrase of the Day Mar 10, 2019

In 16, Shelly and Mary discuss family connections (or lack thereof), coincidence stories, another ridiculous tale about tithing, Temple Square panhandlers, and our fun new segment: The Effed-Up Mormon Phrase of the Day. Enjoy!
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15: Guilting Kids, er, "Strengthening Youth"...right Mormons? Mar 03, 2019

In this episode Shelly reads from the "For the Strength of Youth" manual...the same pamphlet her Bishop cited as "scripture," which he used to justify taking away her temple recommend. Wait a minute -- is this stuff completely fake? We also started a new segment called "The Mormon Phrase of the Day." Aw man, how do you pick just one??? Thanks for listening, hope you enjoy!
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14: Sister missionaries can finally wear pants! Feb 24, 2019

Sister missionaries, it's time to step into some trousers (one leg at a time). And Shelly gets all up in her feels about her divorce. Also, we read an amazing listener email about "reparative" or conversion therapy. What???? No thanks, Mormons. We're all good on that front.
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13: Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon / a.k.a. Shelly's Rant Feb 17, 2019

Welcome to lucky number 13! In this episode Shelly talks about that very special time when she blossomed into womanhood. Warning: this description gets a bit graphic (as usual, Shelly's mouth filter is on the fritz). We also continue the saga of the big church exit, which gets her a bit riled up (breathe, Shelly). Buckle up kids, this ride is bumpy!
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12: Cadaver Gums Feb 10, 2019

Shelly's undergoing gum surgery soon, and in this episode we discuss where those things come from. Ew. We also talk about the first time we both encountered a gay person, and Shelly continues her story about leaving the church and her interview with that beer-hating bishop. It's a good one - enjoy!
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11: Shower Beer Feb 03, 2019

What, you don't drink beer in the shower? Some say it makes a great conditioner. In fact, Shelly claimed that once when her kids asked her if she'd been drinking. True story. In this episode, Shelly also begins the painful retelling of leaving the church, and Mary describes her second coming...out. Oy! But now the spoilers are over and it's time to get to the actual listening. Hope you enjoy!
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10: Pizza Porn Jan 27, 2019

Don't worry, we're not giving up the podcast to be porn stars. But if we did, let's just say pizza would be involved. Yep, it seems strange to us too.
Welcome to our 10th episode! Shelly comes out again, this time to her parents. Since we've been teasing this one for weeks we thought it was time to get to it already. Jeez. Hope you enjoy, and please share with a friend if you feel like it...and maybe even if you don't. Spanks, er, thanks!
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9: I Hope They Call Me on a Mission Jan 20, 2019

What's the big deal about Mormon Missions, anyway? Well, we tackle 'em head on in our 9th podcast, so check it out! Also, we discuss professional recycling, sinful, costly tattoos, and dehydrating yogurt (yes, that's a thing). Hope you enjoy it.
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8: Men In Suits Jan 13, 2019

This episode stumbled upon a big trigger for Shelly. It gets emotional, but we managed to balance the discussion with a revelation about racist panty hose. Ridiculous. Also, we read a sweet yet slightly heartbreaking letter from Angelica. Hang in there, though, because it has a happy ending. Thanks for writing in, Angelica!
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7: The Christmas Letter Jan 06, 2019

Shelly talks about the annual Christmas letter from her "perfect Mormon family." Insert eye-rolling emoji. Mary is starting to think this Mormon stuff might actually be fake. Hmm...
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6: the Holiday Episode Dec 30, 2018

Happy Holidays! Shelly gives her children an amazing gift by coming out to them. Also, nothing says Merry Christmas like ridiculously strong cocktails set on fire! Find out how we survived the restaurant of the meandering men.
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5: Coming Out, part 2 Dec 30, 2018

In this episode we talk about coming out to Shelly's husband. What a treat that was. And will Mary and Shelly ever find the perfect canine companion for Eddie? Decisions, decisions...
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4: Coming Out, part 1 Dec 23, 2018

Shelly responds to listener questions about her first Mormon memory, then we dive into part 1 of her coming out story...if she can get a word in. Mary, you came out a long time ago. Let the newbie get a turn. Listeners, you might want to grab a cocktail and get comfortable for this one. It's at least a two-parter.
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3: First Date Dec 09, 2018

People wonder how an ex-Mormon mother of 7 ended up on a date with a "career lesbian." We actually wonder the same thing. Give a listen and find out.
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2: The Prequel Dec 02, 2018

Welcome back! Mary and Shelly back up a little and describe Mormonism a bit better. Mary's still confused though. Is this stuff actually crazy? All signs point to yes.
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1: Intro Revised (brought to you by beer) Nov 24, 2018

Shelly is a divorced mother of 7 dealing with leaving the Mormon church and coming to terms with her sexuality. Mary is a recovering evangelical Christian, and also a "career lesbian" (as Shelly puts it). Together we're processing all the religious B.S. and navigating a romantic relationship, through a podcast that's raw, honest and funny. Please join us!
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