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**Jake and Jonathan**

Jake and Jonathan (formally Product Breakfast Club) is a behind the scenes look at how some of the best companies in the world design their products. Jake Knapp, NY Times best-selling author of “Sprint”, has helped companies like Slack, Nest and 23andMe build successful products. Jonathan Courtney, co-founder of AJ&Smart, has worked with companies like RedBull, eBay and the United Nations, to help them build better products faster. In this new, exciting podcast, the two of them have teamed up to discuss things like product design, innovation and productivity.

Latest Episodes:

71: Mona Patel on How to find your Dream Mentor Mar 25, 2019

Show notes

All-time favorite guest Mona Patel—Founder & CEO of Motivate Design—is back to chat with Jonathan in another AMAZING episode! This is a really fun episode that’s also PACKED with great advice. Some of the topics discussed in this episode:

What matters to Mona in building a company?
How does Mona deals with people problem at Motivate Design?
The difference between a President and a CEO
The importance of self awareness in a founder
New Island vs Old Island metaphor & managing big change in a company
The importance of R&D & Thinking Time
Jonathan’s _Temperature Checks _at AJ&Smart
Loneliness in entrepreneurship & how to avoid it
Relationship banks & Canvas Strategy
Why you should do your research before asking someone for help
And last but not least, HOW TO INTIMIDATE MEN!

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Get 50% off of Mona’s new Masterclass by using the discount code MONAPBC: 2-Week Research Sprint Masterclass—Learn everything you need to run an efficient and powerful 2-Week Research Sprint with confidence

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Links

Product Breakfast Club #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi–Million Dollar Design Agency

monapatel.nyc

Mona Patel on Instagram

Mona Patel on Twitter

Mona Patel on LinkedIn

Motivate Design

Masterclass: 2-Week Research Sprint—Learn everything you need to run an efficient and powerful 2-Week Research Sprint with confidence. 🔥 Use discount code MONAPBC during checkout to get 50% off the course! 🔥

Book: Reframe: Shift the Way You Work, Innovate, and Think—Mona Patel

Book: The Thing About Swings—Mona Patel

Book: Traction: How Any Startup Can Achieve Explosive Customer Growth — Gabriel Weinberg

Tim Brown

Jared Spool on Twitter

Book: Scaling Up — Mastering the Rockefeller Habits 2.0—Verne Harnish

EO Network—The World’s Only Peer-to-peer Network Exclusively for Entrepreneurs

PR Volt

Noom Weight Loss App

**Book: **Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️

**Book: **Buy Make Time! 📗⏰

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by @amrkhalifeh
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70: Facebook’s VP of Product Design JULIE ZHUO Mar 18, 2019

Show notes

How often do you get the chance to listen to the VP of Facebook, Julie Zhuo, talk about her work..?!? (Crickets) Yeah, we thought so. That’s why we think you’ll LOVE this episode! Jake & Jonathan (well mostly Jake), ask Julie a lot of questions you would want to ask to someone who’s as successful & amazing as Julie. Here’s a sneak peek of the topics covered:

Joining Facebook
Managing hundreds of people
Imposter syndrome
Writing & how it’s related to clear thinking
What does VP of design at Facebook do
Where do new ideas come from?

Links:

juliezhuo.com

Book: The Making Of A Manager

Read Julie’s writing on The Year of the Looking Glass

Subscribe to Julie’s Mailing List

Subscribe to Jake’s newsletter

Book: Super intelligence—Nick Bostrom

Book: Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️

Book: Buy Make Time! 📗⏰

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Follow AJ&Smart on Instagram or Twitter: @ajsmartdesign
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by @amrkhalifeh
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69: You Don’t Always Have to Be Happy Mar 11, 2019

Show notes

Jake & Jonathan go into deep topics in this one! 🍆 But before they do, Jonathan does a victory dance 💃 because he won a certain bet. 🤑 Then they dive into the deep stuff, talking about motivation, human nature, happiness, and how all of that affects work, whether it’s writing a book, running an agency, or doing sprints.

Links:

Book: Stumbling on Happiness—Daniel Gilbert

Book: The Happiness Hypothesis: Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom Paperback—Jonathan Haidt

Book: Man’s Search for Meaning—Viktor E. Frankl

Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️

Buy Make Time! 📗⏰

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by @amrkhalifeh
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68: 10 Most Innovative Companies 2019 Mar 04, 2019

Show notes

Jonathan and Tim sit down to discuss the top 10 most innovative companies of 2019! Who’s Tim, you ask? Good question. They go through the top 10 one by one and discuss what they think of these companies and their innovations. 💡

Links:

Tim Hoefer on Instagram

Tim Hoefer on Twitter

The World’s 50 Most Innovative Companies 2019—Fast Company

#10: twitch.tv

Book: Zero to One

#4: The Walt Disney Company

#3: NBA

#2: Grab

#1: Meituan Dianping

Book: Blitzscaling: The Lightning-Fast Path to Building Massively Valuable Companies

Go-Jek

Fedor Shklirau on Twitter

Fedor Shklirau on Instagram

Yandex

Connie Chan on Twitter

Rumor: Xbox Games Pass Allegedly Coming to Nintendo Switch—IGN

Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️

Buy Make Time! 📗⏰

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by @amrkhalifeh
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67: Let’s talk about Innovation (with Jason Feifer) Feb 25, 2019

Show notes

Another week, another Jake-less episode. In this one, Jonathan interviews Jason Feifer, Editor in Chief at Entrepreneur Magazine. Jason also has 2 great podcasts: Pessimist Archive, Problem Solvers. And he's written for a bunch of famous publications. Aaaand he's also written a novel, Mr. Nice Guy. Jonathan and Jason discuss entrepreneurship, striving for perfectionism (as in you shouldn't!), and some great advice!

Links

jasonfeifer.com

Jason on Twitter

Jason on Instagram

Jason's writing on Entrepreneur Mag

Pessimist Archive Podcast

Problem Solvers Podcast

Mr. Nice Guy

Tim Ferriss

Huge Inc

4 Hour Workweek on Amazon

Andrew Mason on Twitter

Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️

Buy Make Time! 📗⏰

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by @amrkhalifeh
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66: The Future of Podcasts (toilet edition) Feb 18, 2019

Show notes

For those of you poor souls who subscribed to this podcast hoping to hear intelligent discussions about the product world, you’ve probably noticed that such discussions are a rare treat… BUT TODAT IS ONE SUCH TREAT! Jake & Jonathan discuss the acquisitions Spotify made as part of its strategy to OWN the podcasting space. Jake actually prepared for this one! You’re in for a good episode…

Links:

Spotify buys Gimlet and Anchor in podcast push, earmarks $500M for more deals

Anchor—The best way to make your podcast

Gimlet Media

StartUp podcast

Homecoming podcast

Apple Takes Podcasting Mainstream (2005)

Spotify’s Podcast Aggregation Play—Stratechery

Midroll—Podcast Advertising Network

ODEO—Wikipedia

This American Life

NPR Planet Money

Gimlet 13: Fake It Til You Make It—StartUp

Product Breakfast Club #62: Product Business Models of the Future

Why Can’t We Have Decent Toilet Stalls?—Slate

The LEGO Movie 2—IMDb

Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️

Buy Make Time! 📗⏰

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by @amrkhalifeh
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65: PBC Product Awards 2019 Feb 11, 2019

Show notes

People. Naked people. Naked people running in the street. Naked people in the sauna. Jonathan naked in a sauna. 16 minutes of that. Then awards. 2018 awards. But not necessarily for stuff that came out in
It’s a fun one. Enjoy! 😘

Links:

Joe Rogan’s podcast

Product Breakfast Club #64: Kevin Rose gives us EPIC Product Advice!

Vabali Sauna

DDR Museum

BIC Atlantis Bold Retractable Ball Pen, Bold Point (1.6mm), Black, 3-Count

Maruman Mnemosyne N181 A4 Imagination Notepad

Roborock S5 Robot Vacuum and Mop

AirPods

The Lives Of Others

Apple blocks Facebook from running its internal iOS apps — The Verge

Zuckerberg’s Facebook shares

Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️

Buy Make Time! 📗⏰

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by @amrkhalifeh
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64: Kevin Rose gives us EPIC Product Advice! Feb 04, 2019

Show notes

This is a big one! This might just be the BEST EPISODE YET!! Why, you ask..? Because Jake & Jonathan are joined by none other than the legendary Kevin Rose. Jonathan doesn’t even bother talking for most of the episode because he just wants Kevin and Jake to keep talking! Here’s some of the stuff they cover:

4:30 Getting into products
9:00 dealing with failure and trying crazy things
15:00 being too early to a market
18:25 gut feeling vs market research and talking to users
23:00 ideas vs execution and getting started
27:00 VR
31:00 the entrepreneur eyes
36:00 school & daydreaming
42:45 Kevin’s favorite digital & physical products
49:00 finding balance

Links:

Kevin Rose — Wikipedia

@kevinrose on Twitter

@kevinrose on Instagram

The Kevin Rose Show

Kevin’s investments (Angel.co)

Digg

Revision3

Milk

Zero — Fasting Tracker

Oak — Meditation & Breathing

Google Ventures (GV)

True Ventures

Blue Bottle Coffee

Nextdoor—The private social network for your neighborhood community

The Random Show Podcast

Tiiny

Stewart Butterfield—Wikipedia

DailyArt—Daily Dose of Art History

The Wim Hoff Method

Host Defense — Stamets 7 Multi Mushroom Capsules—Amazon.com

Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️

Buy Make Time! 📗⏰

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by @amrkhalifeh
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63: Growth Hacking and Design Sprints Make Love Jan 28, 2019

Show notes

Fish burning. 🐟 Dog barking. 🐶 Jonathan is doing a Growth Sprint Workshop?! That's not all. He's also leaving money on the table. It's right there. Yes, that table. It's your if you want it. 🤑 Babies are dogs. Or maybe they're comparable to dogs. Something like that. 🤷‍♂️ Also, don't feel bad about stuff that makes you feel bad. 😌

Links

Book: Hacking Growth

Book: Sprint

Sean Ellis

Chris D’Elia podcast

funnygifs.com (not a real boy)

Why Procrastinators Procrastinate—Wait But Why

Inside the mind of a master procrastinator | Tim Urban

Michael Margolis

Dungeons & Dragons

Malcom Gladwell’s podcast

Rate the show on Apple Podcasts 💦💦💦💦💦

Sponsor: Cash App

Sponsor: MeUndies.com

Sponsor: Squarespace.com

Sponsor: Emirates First Class

Buy Sprint! 📘🏃‍♀️

Buy Make Time! 📗⏰

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 🥇😯

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by @amrkhalifeh
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62: Let's Talk Product Strategy Jan 21, 2019

Show notes

Jake & Jonathan kick-off the first episode of the new year by diving straight into prod… no, they start by rambling for a good long while. But it’s good rambling: new year goals, journaling, setting OKRs, and Jonathan’s mom meets a random Irish guy that knows Jake. 😂 But then! Then Jake and Jonathan talk about a super interesting article about advertising business models and going beyond them. It’s a good one! 🤑

Links

OKR

Fedor (designer at AJ&Smart) on Twitter, Instagram

Outgrowing Advertising: Multimodal Business Models as a Product Strategy by Connie Chan

When AI is the Product: The Rise of AI-Based Consumer Apps
by Connie Chan

Connie Chan on Twitter

Andreesen Horowitz

Andreesen Horowitz (A16z) podcast

Andreesen Horowitz (A16z) on YouTube

Book: The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business When There Are No Easy Answers by Ben Horowitz

Stratechery

TikTok