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Jake and Jonathan

Jake and Jonathan (formally Product Breakfast Club) is a behind the scenes look at how some of the best companies in the world design their products. Jake Knapp, NY Times best-selling author of “Sprint”, has helped companies like Slack, Nest and 23andMe build successful products. Jonathan Courtney, co-founder of AJ&Smart, has worked with companies like RedBull, eBay and the United Nations, to help them build better products faster. In this new, exciting podcast, the two of them have teamed up to discuss things like product design, innovation and productivity.

Copyright: © Jake Knapp & Jonathan Courtney

Latest Episodes:

60: Life Lessons Learned (2018) Dec 24, 2018

Show notes

Strap in for the end of the year extravaganza! The episode, appropriately, starts off with favorite breakfast sandwiches of
🥪 Jake and Jonathan would love for you to invite them to your country and show them around! 🌍Should designers make a good personal website in today’s social-first world? No! Or.. maybe yes. Although… 🤔 Jake and Jonathan share some painful lessons they’ve learned this year. 😬 Finally, the episode ends on a high note with a story from Jake. 🏀

Links:

Nintendo Switch™

Mario Kart™ 8

PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency

PBC #X: Jason Fried gives us SAVAGE Product Advice

Become A Facebook-Free Business—DHH—Signal v. Noise

Room of Requirement

KRONE — kitchen & coffee (Berlin)

Bonanza Coffee (Berlin)

Kevin Rose ⛩ (@kevinrose) · Twitter

jonathancourtneyux.com

conversionmessiah.com

Andrew Kim (@mnmllymnml)—Instagram

Ray Dalio: A Meaningful Life | The James Altucher Show, Ep. 290

Book: Principles: Life and Work by Ray Dalio

331 Ryan Holiday — Behind the Conspiracy— James Altucher

Book: Atomic Habits by James Clear

Book: Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity by Kim Scott

Form: Growth consultancy for creative and tech businesses

Book: Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl

Book: Ready Player One: A Novel by Ernest Cline

Send Jake a message: hey@jakeknapp.com

Omnipresent Links:

Buy Sprint! 📘

Buy Make Time! 📗

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by Amr Khalifeh. IG: @amrkhalifeh
Follow the podcast on Medium

59: Berlin vs Silicon Valley (5-star episode) Dec 17, 2018

Show notes

Jake & Jonathan are back together in this one. Amdist all the interviews this year, it’s like a special episode when Jake & Jonathan actually talk to each other! In this one, they read listener email… Everyone loves the show. Boring. JK. Thank you everyone! 😘 Then there’s some talk about teeth. Finally, the episode wraps up by pitting Berlin vs. San Fran! 🥊

Links:

PBC #55: Design Sprints DON’T WORK! (not clickbait)

Why I am breaking up with design sprints

Eli Schiff (@eli_schiff)

Humans of Flat Design (@HumansOfFlat) | Twitter

Omnipresent Links:

Buy Sprint! 📘

Buy Make Time! 📗

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by Amr Khalifeh. IG: @amrkhalifeh
Follow the podcast on Medium

58: 1 MILLION DESIGN SPRINTS IN ICELAND Dec 10, 2018

Show notes

Baby popped out! 👶🏻 She’s cute. 😍 A guy is chased by a tiger then he dies. ☠️

Jake interviews Andri Kristinsson. Andri is the founder of Travelade and Icelandic Startups, and is a guest lecturer at Reykjavik University where he organized and ran a gigantic design sprint. Jake & Andri talk about the challenges with doing such a huge sprint, in addition to expanding on Andri’s previous & current projects.

Links:

Reykjavik University: Design Sprints with over 460 students in 92 teams

Reykjavik University

Andri Heiðar Kristinsson (LinkedIn)

Travelade: Discover Meaningful Experiences

Andri on Travelade

Airbnb Experiences

Vignir Gudmunds

Omnipresent Links:

Buy Sprint! 📘

Buy Make Time! 📗

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com
Show notes by Amr Khalifeh. IG: @amrkhalifeh
Follow the podcast on Medium

57: Inside LEGO with design leader Tara Wike Dec 03, 2018

Show notes

Jonathan has moved on. Jakes interviews tara wike, Senior Design Manager at LEGO, the wooden toys company, and manages LEGO Ideas. Jakes asks Tara about her move to Denmark. Learning Danish. æ ø å. Eating a hot dog & drinking chocolate milk. Applying for jobs. Odd jobs. Designing minifigs. And some sage advice at the end!

Links:

Microsoft Encarta (Wikipedia)

LEGO Idea (formerly Cuusoo) (Wikipedia)

LEGO minifigure (Wikipedia)

LEGO NASA Apollo Saturn V

LEGO Women of NASA

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀

Buy Sprint! 📘

Buy Make Time! 📗

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

56: Best Books 2018 Nov 26, 2018

Show notes

Happy podbirthday! 🎉 It’s the podcast’s 1 year birthday. 👶🏻

Help the podcast get to 10,000 listeners by sharing it on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and rating it on iTunes (click here to go to the iTunes Store and rate it)!

Get ready for a whole bunch of book recommendations! (All in the links below) Although Jake and Jonathan only get to the book recommendations around the 40-minute mark, so don’t hold your breath. Or hold it for 40 minutes. Whichever is easier for you. 🌬

Before getting to the book recommendations, Jake and Jonathan talk about a few things: Jake interviewing Julie Zhuo, Jake’s podcast journal (JAKEPODS!), the economy of Red Dead Redemption 2… which leads into a deeper topic of how to stay excited about what’s next in life! Failure sucks. Enjoy!

Links:

Julie Zhuo on Medium

Something Seems Very Wrong With Red Dead Redemption 2’s Economy—Forbes

Limited Edition: Product Breakfast Club Tees 👕

Joe Rogan Experience #1198 — Derren Brown

BOOK: The Obstacle is the Way: The Ancient Art of Turning Adversity to Advantage by Ryan Holiday

BOOK: The Power of Moments: Why Certain Experiences Have Extraordinary Impact by Chip and Dan Heath

BOOK: This Is Marketing: You Can’t Be Seen Until You Learn to See by Seth Godin

Jason Fried on Medium

BOOK: Red Rising

BOOK: The Broken Earth Trilogy: The Fifth Season, The Obelisk Gate, The Stone Sky

BOOK: All Systems Red: The Murderbot Diaries

BOOK: The Gone World

BOOK: Slaughterhouse-Five

BOOK: The Road

BOOK: Harry Potter Paperback Box Set (Books 1–7)

BOOK: Rework by Jason Fried and DHH

BOOK: Hooked by Nir Eyal

BOOK: The Martian

BOOK: Gone Girl

BOOK: State of the Art

BOOK: Look to Windward

The Tim Ferriss Show

Astro Teller — Moonshot 10X Thinking (YouTube)

AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀

Buy Sprint! 📘

Buy Make Time! 📗

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

55: Design Sprints DON’T WORK! (not clickbait) Nov 19, 2018

Show notes

Jake & Jonathan finally reveal that the Design Sprint has been one gigantic SCAM! It’s crazy how the book sold so much and how much money Jonathan has been able to get from selling it to clients! Also in today’s episode:

Design sprints aren’t for every problem. They won’t help you with your constipation. 💩

People fun. Baby’s not here. Secret videos. Still stuck in a bucket? Red Dead. Tees. Happy podbirthday? 🎉

Jake & Jonathan discuss articles that ATTACK the design sprint. (All linked below)

Links:

Rate the show on iTunes 💦💦💦💦💦

LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEES!!! 👕

Article 1: Design Sprints Are Snake Oil — Mule Design Studio 🐍

Article 2: When a design sprint isn’t the answer — InVision❓

Article 3: Why I am breaking up with design sprints 💔

Rob, Tim, and Fedor 👨🏻‍🎨

Why Do Design Thinking Projects Fail? Innovation Advice—YouTube 👎

User Research is Overrated—Jonathan Courtney—Muzli 😱

AJ&Smart on YouTube 💋

Buy Sprint! 📘

Buy Make Time! 📗

Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 👀

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

54: How To Control Your STUPID Face Nov 12, 2018

Show notes

First things first: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS ARE HERE!!! 😱

Ok, back to normal now. Please only continue if you’ve bought a t-shirt. How many did you buy..?! We love you all. But we love the ones who bought the t-shirts more. Just kidding. Maybe.

Aside from the stuff in the links section, here are few things Jonathan & Jake touch on in this episode:

Semen is how Jonathan came to be. But also his Instagram..?! 💦

Emoji update: 💦 🦔🧝🏻‍🙇🏻‍

Jonathan's leg is stuck in a bucket. Not his real leg. His other leg. 🦵🏻

Where will Jake & Jonathan be in 20 years? 👴🏻

Some stuff about product marketing. 💋

People fun. Just… people fun. People. Fun. 💏

Jason Fried is slippery. Something about a Julie. Julie wrote a book..? People fun. 👩‍💼

Links:

LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯

PBC #53: How to Design Non-Sh**t Conferences with ANDY BUDD

PBC #11: Why Most Design Conferences Suck

Mind the Product Conferences

LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯

The Futur Podcast by Chris do

Katharina (@informationlovers) on Instagram

LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯

Red Dead Redemption 2

WESTWORLD Season 1 TEASER TRAILER

LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Amazon)

Buy Make Time!

BOOK: Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking by Susan Cain

PBC #52: Basecamp’s New Book is SAVAAAAAGE!

LIMITED EDITION: PRODUCT BREAKFAST CLUB TEESHIRTS!!! 😱🤯

Buy Sprint!

Buy Make Time!

Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

53: How to Design Non-Sh**t Conferences with ANDY BUDD Nov 05, 2018

Show notes

Jonathan interviews Andy Budd, co-founder of Clearleft and the man behind popular design conferences like UX London and Leading Design. Jonathan asks lots of questions and but doesn’t even get close to asking everything he wants to ask. Some of the topics Jonathan and Andy touch on:

How Andy is pathological! It’s true! 👻

What are conferences for? Spoiler: it’s not education! 🤔

How to connect with people at conferences? 🤚🏻

How does Andy balance watching over 500 conference talks a year with running Clearleft? 🤯

Managing cashflow when running an agency. 🤑

How to agency? 🧐

Lastly they talk about selling out, because, spoiler, Jonathan is thinking of SELLING OFF AJ&SMART! WHAAAT! Yeah, no, just kidding. 😌

Links:

Andy Budd on Twitter

Leading Design Conf 2019

PBC #11: Why Most Design Conferences Suck

PBC #44: Growing USTWO + The Future of Creative Business with Jules Ehrhardt

PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency

Artificial Intelligence: The Norwegian Retreat

BOOK: The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don’t Work and What to Do About It by Michael E. Gerber

BOOK: Capital: A Novel

Buy Sprint!

Buy Make Time!

Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

52: Basecamp’s New Book is SAVAAAAAGE! Oct 29, 2018

Show notes

Jonathan starts with a rambly 4-minute intro that leads into a solocast since Jake’s not here. Jake’s in London doing more important stuff than talking to Jonathan. 🕺🏻

Jonathan talks about Jason Fried and DHH’s new book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work. He even does a dramatic reading of one chapter: Launch and Learn. Jonathan looks up a word in the dictionary. And surprise, surprise, Jonathan disses research again. 📖

Finally, Jonathan asks you for favors! 🙏🏻

Links:

PBC #X: Jason Fried gives us SAVAGE Product Advice

PBC #48: How to be a Product Leader — SCOTT BELSKY

PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency

Jason Fried (Twitter)

BOOK: It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work by Jason Fried and DHH

Buy Sprint!

Buy Make Time!

Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass:ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

51: When Being LAZY is SMART! Oct 22, 2018

Show notes

This episode starts off with a very subtle ad, that’s not at all in-your-face. Also, it’s not sponsored by Squarespace or Zip Recruiter. It’s important that you know that. Some of the things Jake & Jon talk about in this episode:

How AJ&Smart went from 💩💩💩 to 😎🤯🤩 when it comes to social media presence. Jonathan plans to go much deeper on content and share more about stuff that currently doesn’t get the spotlight, like strategy, stuff from the workshops and Q&A’s, conversations at AJ&Smart, and day-to-day snippets. Also, there’s going to be more content from AJ&Smart soon. A lot more. Like 10x more. There’s going to be a lot more documenting and repurposing content to keep things fresh. 🥦 Because rotting videos are bad for the environment. 🤢

Jake briefly talks about spaceships, AI, and how AJ&Smart works like a hive mind.

Book discussion! Jakes and Jon talk about Jason Fried’s new book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work.

Jon gets philosophical. Then he starts making a good case for laziness. That’s right being lazy is the new hustle!

What are design agencies? Jonathan wasn’t sure when he started AJ&Smart. He’s still not sure to this day.

Would Jon sell his soul to big clients?

Jake joins in and talks about what success meant to him early in his career and how his views on success have evolved.

The episode wraps up with Jake reading some Amazon.com reviews for his new book Make Time. Buy Make Time!

Links:

Register now to get a spot for the Jake’s & Jon’s 24 October Webclass

See Jake in London or Oslo

Gary Vee on Instagram

Gary Vee on Twitter

Vayner Media’s 4Ds

AJ&Smart on Instagram

AJ&Smart on YouTube

BOOK: Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie

BOOK: It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work by Jason Fried & DHH

PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency

BOOK: Rework by Jason Fried & DHH

The web class in which Jon talks about starting AJ&Smart

ajsmart.com/masterclass

Amr on Instagram

Buy Make Time!

Buy Sprint!

Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class:ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰

Your Hosts:

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek
Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream
Write into the podcast: pbc@ajsmart.com
Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

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