It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine

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The Truthiest Life – How To Ground While Grieving with Kait Hurley Aug 08, 2022

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Hi, Here After with Megan Devine fans! This week we're including an episode from The Truthiest Life, hosted by Lisa Hayim! We hope you enjoy it!

Lisa sits down with @kait.hurley, founder of Move + Meditate, the app that fuses together movement with stillness.

They discuss:

Kait’s intimate story of grief + the effect on her physical + emotional body
Collective Grief: the power of knowing others have been through what you have
Finding “micro-moments” of stillness
Why it’s okay to run from yourself for a period of time
The Inner Critic: why we’re approaching it the wrong way

Move + Meditate: Try the free 14 day trial here (https://moveandmeditate.com/)

Instagram: @kait.hurley

The Truthiest Life on Instagram: @thetruthiestlife

Host: @Lisahayim

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Edited by Houston Tilley

Intro jingle by Alyssa Chase aka @findyoursails

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You Need Therapy – Addiction: How We Are Responding to a Broken World Aug 01, 2022

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Hi, Here After with Megan Devine fans! This week we're including an episode Kat Defatta did all about addiction! We hope you enjoy it!

This week Kat dives into what makes someone an "addict" & it's probably not what you think. If you are someone who has struggled with or is close to someone who has struggled with addiction this is going to be an important conversation to listen to. Warning: Some stuff may come up when listening to this so please make sure you are in a place where you feel safe before diving in.

Follow Kat on Instagram: @Kat.Defatta

Follow the podcast Instagram: @YouNeedTherapyPodcast

Have a question, concern, guest idea, something else? Reach Kat at: Kathryn@youneedtherapyodcast.com

Heard about Three Cords Therapy but don’t know what it is? Click here!

Produced by: @HoustonTilley

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You Need Therapy – Being Present with Grief with Amy Brown Jul 25, 2022

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Hi, Here After with Megan Devine fans! This week we're including an episode Kat Defatta did with Amy Brown! We hope you enjoy it!

FINALLY! Amy Brown (@radioamy) joins Kat (@kat.defatta) for the first time on You Need Therapy! You may know Amy as the cohost of The Bobby Bones Show, creator of Pimpin' Joy, host of 4 Things with Amy Brown, or cohost of Outweigh- Kat knows Amy as one of the most genuine humans around. Together, Kat and Amy talk about what grief is and how it has shown up in thier own lives. They talk about anticipatory grief, comparative grief, the stages of grief, and finding meaning in their grief. They kind of cover it all. Grief is something that every human being will experience more than one time during their lives, yet it is also something many of us avoid. Join in on this conversation to hear some honesty about what it's like to get honest and present with it.

Follow Kat on Instagram: @Kat.Defatta

Follow the podcast Instagram: @YouNeedTherapyPodcast

Have a question, concern, guest idea, something else? Reach Kat at: Kathryn@youneedtherapyodcast.com

Heard about Three Cords Therapy but don’t know what it is? Click here!

Produced by: @HoustonTilley

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4 Things w/ Walker & Laney Hayes: The Best Love Song. Blessing Others. Grieving the Loss of a Child. Practice Gratitude Jul 18, 2022

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Hi, Here After with Megan Devine fans! This week we're including an episode Amy Brown did with singer/song-writer Walker Hayes and his wife, Laney! We hope you enjoy it!

Singer/song-writer, Walker Hayes (who wrote our theme song! + the #PIMPINJOY song 'Joy Like Judy') and his wife Laney join Amy for all 4 things this episode. You might laugh. You might cry. The parents of 6 kids let us in on a lot and we are so thankful that they took the time to share it all. FIRST THING: Amy is obsessed with Walker's song “Don’t Let Her”, which was written about Laney. Every girl would love for a guy to write her a song like this. Its genius. Sorta sad. But genius. And very sweet. A must listen!!! SECOND THING: Blessing others is fun. Walker & Laney have been on the receiving end, but now they are on the giving ned. They are paying it forward with their "Be a Craig Fund" that was inspired by their friend (named Craig) that blessed them with a van for their big family at a time when they were financially strapped and they didn't have a car with enough seatbelts for everyone. "Be a Craig Fund" now allows them to pass the blessing of a new car on to other people that need a little help. THIRD THING: Walker & Laney open up about the heartbreaking journey of losing their daughter Oakleigh during birth. They share about how they are getting through the grief process in hopes that it can be helpful to others who may be going through something similar. FOURTH THING: “Life ain’t always pretty, but hey its pretty beautiful thing!” Through the good and the bad...Walker & Laney practice gratitude...so they each share 4 things they are thankful for.

Be sure to check out WalkerHayes.com for his music, more information on the Be A Craig Fund, as well as the awesome merch mentioned in this episode.

Best places to find more about Amy: RadioAmy.com + @RadioAmy

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4 Things w/ Kimberly Schlapman: Understanding Grief. Wellness. Comfort Food. Gratitude Jul 11, 2022

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Hi, Here After with Megan Devine fans! This week we're including an episode Amy Brown did with Kimberly Schlapman from the band Little Big Town. We hope you enjoy it!

This week Amy has Kimberly Schlapman (@ohgussie) from Little Big Town on for all 4 Things! FIRST THING: This year has been pretty hard, so Amy and Kimberly talk about grief...offering hope to those in the thick of it...that you can make it to the other side. Kimberly understands grief...as she suddenly lost her first husband and had fertility struggles for years. SECOND THING: Kimberly shared what wellness is for her...mind, body, and spirit. THIRD THING: We all have our go to comfort food or recipe. Kimberly talks about the cookies she made Amy, and her favorite meal that she makes for the ones she loves! You can find Kimberly’s recipe on Amy’s blog at RadioAmy.com! FOURTH THING: Kimberly tells us 4 Things she’s grateful for...when guests practice gratitude either us...it’s always a great way to get to know them better!

Best places to find more about Amy: RadioAmy.com + @RadioAmy

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4 Things - Grief During the Holidays w/ Megan Devine Jul 04, 2022

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Hi, Here After with Megan Devine fans! This week we're including another episode Amy Brown did with Megan. We hope you enjoy it!

Best-selling author & psychotherapist, Megan Devine, is back on to discuss grief during the holidays with Amy. We are so thankful for Megan’s wisdom and couldn’t be more excited about her podcast being an awesome resource for all people…but especially doctors, nurses, therapists and other helpers as they try to figure out how to show up - for themselves, and for others.

Best places to find more about Amy: RadioAmy.com + @RadioAmy

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4 Things – Megan Devine: Experiencing Grief. How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed. The Middle Path. Gratitude Jun 27, 2022

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Hi, Here After with Megan Devine fans! This week we're including the episode Amy Brown did with Megan. We hope you enjoy it!

Grief counselor, psychotherapist, writer, grief advocate & communication expert, Megan Devine {@refugeingrief}, is on for all 4 things today! Megan is dedicated to helping people live through things they never thought they’d have to face. In 2009, she watched her partner, Matt, drown. FIRST THING: Megan shares her experience with grief and how it changed her life & relationships with others! Megan wants people to know it’s okay that you’re not okay and how to best meet grief & loss in a society that doesn’t understand. SECOND THING: Journaling through grief with Megan’s latest book: “How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed.” THIRD THING: Megan debunks the culturally prescribed goal of returning to a normal, “happy” life, replacing it with a far healthier middle path, one that invites us to build a life alongside grief rather than seeking to overcome it. FOURTH THING: Megan shares with us 4 things she is grateful for. She also shared with us that gratitude is a companion to grief...not something you can do to get rid of any grief.

Link to “It’s Okay That You’re Not Okay: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Society that Doesn’t Understand”:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1622039076?ref=exp_radioamy_dp_vv_d

Link to “How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed” (new grief journal):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1683643704?ref=exp_radioamy_dp_vv_d

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Grief Has Entered the Chat: Addiction, Body Image, and Therapy Jun 20, 2022

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You know what makes the scary stuff easier to talk about? Making it fun. This week, my fellow “fun and scary” psychotherapist, Kat DeFatta, joins us to talk about body image, disordered eating, and how to help a friend facing a tough diagnosis. Sounds scary, but we had a lot of fun making this show. Come listen.

Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.co

In this episode we cover:

Why brand new psychotherapist Kat DeFatta said she’d “never work with grief” (spoiler: she knows better now)
How to support a friend going through a health crisis when you’re concerned about potential disordered eating
How much exercise is “too much exercise” when you’re dealing with a tough life experience
Why grief is always in the room, no matter what your clients or patients present with

Notable quote:

“The question here isn't, "Why the addiction?" It's, "Where is some unmet need causing you pain?" The question isn't, "Why do you have a negative body image?" The question is, "Where are you hurting?" - Kat DeFatta

Guest Bio:

Psychotherapist Kathryn DeFatta is the host of the You Need Therapy Podcast, where she brings the kind of rare, meaningful conversations of the therapy office out into the world. Find her at www.YouNeedTherapyPodcast.com

Questions to Carry with you:

Making conversation with your body: how exactly do we do that?

Resources:

Need a place to tell the whole truth about what you’re going through? Check out the Writing Your Grief course and community, from Megan Devine. Registration for the next session is open now.

Looking for more training as you navigate grief on the job and in your life? Check out megandevine.co for upcoming workshops

Get in touch:

Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of Here After with Megan Devine. Tune in, subscribe, leave a review, send in your questions, and share the show with everyone you know. Together, we can make things better, even when they can’t be made right.

To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.co

For more information, including clinical training and consulting, visit us at www.Megandevine.co

For grief support & education, follow us at @refugeingrief on IG, FB, & TW

Check out Megan’s best-selling books - It’s Okay That You're Not Okay and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed - at refugeingrief.com/book

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Is It Time to Retire The Stages of Grief? (Spoiler: yes) Jun 13, 2022

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Everybody knows the stages of grief. Even if you didn’t go to grad school, I bet you can rattle them off. Thing is - those stages don’t help anyone: not the pros trying to support patients or clients, not the person trying to survive an impossible situation. Tune in for the inside scoop on the stages of grief and what we should be doing instead, with a special shout-out to the tv shows getting grief right.

In this episode we cover:

where the stages of grief came from, and why their creator was Less Than Pleased with what happened next
whether an “innocent” mention of the stages of grief really matters in a movie or tv show (shout out to netflix: HMU!)
what to do if your boss asks you to support your co-workers through a death in the company
and much more, because I have a lot to say on these stages, apparently.

Questions to Carry with you:

rooting out the ways the stages of grief live in your head (it’s not as uncomfortable as it sounds!)

Extra resources: I’ve written a lot about the stages of grief. Check out this article, this instagram post, and for more of my feelings about the Starling, click here. Be sure to pick up It’s OK that You’re Not OK wherever you get your books, too - there’s a lot about the stages in there (including the reasons why graduate programs still teach this outdated model).

For more help navigating grief in the workplace, check out Alica Forneret, Lantern, and Grief Coach. I provide corporate consulting on grief related comms, too. Get in touch via megandevine.co Disclosure: these aren’t paid placements - I’ve worked with all these folks and I super dig them. Go check them (and me!) out.

To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.co

For more information, including clinical training and consulting, visit us at www.Megandevine.co

For grief support & education, follow us at @refugeingrief on IG, FB, & TW

Check out Megan’s best-selling books - It’s Okay That You're Not Okay and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed - at refugeingrief.com/book

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Do You Have to Be Friends with Everyone? with Dr. Alexandra Solomon (Part Two) Jun 06, 2022

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What should you do if someone wants to be friends, but you’re not into it? Boundaries are part of all human relationships, but they are TRICKY. This week, part two of our show about boundaries - how to make them, how to keep them, and sometimes, how to breach them - with special guest Dr. Alexandra Solomon, host of Reimagining Love.

Notable quotes:

Boundaries are essentially “need negotiation” between humans. - Megan

Want your questions answered on the show? To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.co

In this episode we cover:

Starting over in a new place with new friends
Why we so often confuse boundaries with being mean or rude
The power of social observation to gather data (Megan’s go-to move!)
Scripts for saying “no thank you” to a potential friendship when that feels both mean and necessary

Guest Bio:

Dr Alexandra Solomon is one of the most trusted voices in the world of relationships. She’s a licensed clinical psychologist at The Family Institute at Northwestern University and the author of two bestselling books: Loving Bravely and Taking Sexy Back. You might know her from her popular instagram channel, or from her podcast, Reimagining Love. Find her at https://dralexandrasolomon.com.

Questions to Carry with you:

Discovering your existing boundaries in disguise! Plus communicating one new boundary. You’ve got this.

Resources:

Want to train with Dr. Solomon? Check out her current training courses at https://dralexandrasolomon.com

Need a place to tell the whole truth about what you’re going through? Check out the Writing Your Grief course and community, from Megan Devine. Registration for the next session is open now.

Looking for more training as you navigate grief on the job and in your life? Check out megandevine.co for upcoming workshops

Get in touch:

To submit your questions by voicemail, call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.co

For more information, including clinical training and consulting, visit us at www.Megandevine.co

For grief support & education, follow us at @refugeingrief on IG, FB, & TW

Check out Megan’s best-selling books - It’s Okay That You're Not Okay and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed

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