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    I Guess We’ll Do It That Way

    A weekly conversational comedy show where Isaiah and Jon talk about life, popular culture and the constant battle to produce movies in ever-changing Hollywood.


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    21. Zay's Crushing Hard on an Actor and Needs a Gift for an Agent // The Roller Diaries Vol. 14 Oct 30, 2018
    Show notes

    Time Warner Revenue

    Saudi Oil Mega-Company -- Saudi Aramco

    A list of the largest companies in the world

    Halloween (Dir. David Gordon Green) // Trailer

    The Visit (Dir. M Night Shyamalan) // Trailer

    Split (Dir. M Night Shyamalan) // Trailer

    Glass (Dir. M Night Shyamalan) // Trailer

    Moonlight (Dir. Barry Jenkins) // Trailer

    Halloween (Dir. John Carpenter) // Trailer

    Disney's Legend of Sleepy Hollow // The Whole Movie

    The movie about the west starring Nicky Kidman and Tommy Cruise is called "Far and Away"

    "Sooners" vs. "Boomers" // Wiki (THANK YOU WIKIPEDIA. We will donate one day...)

    An auction for remote land // Website

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    20. VR Won't Replace Traditional Movies and Long Takes are Overrated Oct 23, 2018
    Show notes

    Flashback to our first episode!

    Podcasters Union // Info

    Father John Misty // Website

    Astroworld: Song Sicko Mode

    Elliott Smith // Needle in the Hay

    A woman crying after Trump was elected // It's a hilarious video

    Chinese Social Credit Score // Crazzzzy // An alternative view

    What is a Steadicam?

    Michel Gondry // A video breaking down his aesthetic

    A great video breaking down "The Spielberg Oner"

    Breakdancing:

    • The Breakdancing move known as "The Turtle."
    • Breakdancing fails

    A famous Steadicam shot from "The Shining" // This is an example of it being amazingly useful!!!

    Augmented Reality Short Films

    The Famous Tracking Shot from "Goodfellas"

    "Ghost in the Shell" the original trailer

    "Akira" // The Trailer

    "My Neighbor Totoro" // Trailer

    "Ratatouille" // The Cooking Scene

    CRISPR // Website

    "Easy Rider" // The Acid Scene

    "Rear Window" // A Feminist Critique

    Box Office Numbers by the year // Box Office Mojo


    Credits and Personal Links:

    A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

    Produced and edited by: Isaiah Smallman

    Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

    Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

    Outro music: My Way By Frank Sinatra

    Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

    Show Website | ThatWay.fm

    Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

    Jon Twitter

    Isaiah Instagram

    Isaiah IMDB

    Isaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses)

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    19. Is Rollers Dead? (Pt. 3 of 3) // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 13 Oct 19, 2018
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    A Star Is Born (Dir. Bradley Cooper) // Trailer

    Roma (Dir. Alfonso Cuarón) // Trailer

    Ron Gallo // The song is called "Put The Kids to Bed" // Music video

    "When we we’re young we said one day // Honey you and I, we’re gonna share a grave // I didn’t know it’d come so soon // The feeling in my belly of living with but not loving you // It keeps me longer at the corner store"


    Credits and Personal Links:

    A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

    Produced and edited by: Isaiah Smallman

    Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

    Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

    Outro music: My Way By Frank Sinatra

    Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

    Show Website | ThatWay.fm

    Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

    Jon Twitter

    Isaiah Instagram

    Isaiah IMDB

    Isaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses)

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    18. Is Rollers Dead? (Pt. 2 of 3) // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 12 Oct 16, 2018
    Show notes

    The Lottery // Written by Shirley Jackson*

    *DISCLAIMER: The Lottery will in no way increase your chances of winning the lottery, nor will it educate about how to do so. According to Wikipedia The Lottery is a short story written by Shirley Jackson first published in the June 26, 1948 issue of The New Yorker. The story describes a fictional small town which observes an annual ritual known as "the lottery", which results in the killing of one individual in the town. "The Lottery" has been described as "one of the most famous short stories in the history of American literature" It initially received a negative response, which surprised both Jackson and The New Yorker. Readers cancelled subscriptions and sent hate mail throughout the summer.


    Credits and Personal Links:

    A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

    Produced and edited by: Isaiah Smallman

    Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

    Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

    Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz

    Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

    Show Website | ThatWay.fm

    Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

    Jon Twitter

    Isaiah Instagram

    Isaiah IMDB

    Isaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses)

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    17. Is Rollers Dead? (Pt. 1 of 3) // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 11 Oct 12, 2018
    Show notes

    Astro the Rapper

    Bird scooters / bird scooter carnage

    • LA Times: "Fed-up locals are setting electric scooters on fire and burying them at sea"
    • "People Are Destroying E-Scooters and Reveling in the Carnage"

    Soho House in West Hollywood // https://www.sohohousewh.com/

    Inventor of Segway dies // Here's the story

    11:00 - Here's where the intro ends and the REAL debate begins....

    “What if he shot you in the face?” // From Dumb and Dumber


    Credits and Personal Links:

    A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

    Produced and edited by: Isaiah Smallman

    Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

    Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

    Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz

    Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

    Show Website | ThatWay.fm

    Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

    Jon Twitter

    Isaiah Instagram

    Isaiah IMDB

    Isaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses)

    Isaiah LinkedIn

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    16. Should We "Save the Cat" or Let It Die? A Discussion About Script Structure Oct 05, 2018
    Show notes

    Save the Cat (By Blake Snyder) // On Amazon

    The "Beat Sheet," a now classic writing tool for analyzing a script // Here's one for STAR WARS

    Joseph Campbell links //

    A cool video explaining his stuff (“The hero’s journey”)

    • Here's his famous book

    Lethal Weapon //"I'm too old for this shit" // "Do Ya Really Wanna Jump? Let's Do It"

    Youʼve Got Mail

    Dumb And Dumber // "So youʼre sayin' Thereʼs a Chance"

    Princess Bride // "Have fun storming the castle"

    Adaptation //

    Watch the Trailer

    Robert McKee Seminar Scene

    Robert McKee talking about the dangers of formulaic screenwriting

    Charlie Kauffman // Long ass (but worth a watch) Screenwriting Master Class

    Watchmen // Watch the Trailer

    What to Know for your FIRST TIME HAVING SEX

    Children of Men // Watch the trailer

    AMP studios // Check out the website

    2001: A Space Odyssey // A great behind the scenes video

    Mulholland Drive // Watch the trailer



    Credits and Personal Links:

    A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

    Produced and edited by: Isaiah Smallman

    Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

    Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

    Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz

    Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

    Show Website | ThatWay.fm

    Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

    Jon Twitter

    Isaiah Instagram

    Isaiah IMDB

    Isaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses)

    Isaiah LinkedIn

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    15. A Deep Dive on Scripts & Zay Breaks Down His Script "The Sidekick" Oct 02, 2018
    Show notes

    A Very Helpful Video About Mormon Space Planets

    Fortnight // Video of people playing

    Do the Right Thing // Link to the script book

    The actual definition of a slug line

    A slug line, Also called a master scene heading, occurs at the start of every scene and typically contains three pieces of information: whether the scene is set inside (interior/INT.) or outside (exterior/EXT.), the specific location, and the time of day. Each slug line begins a new scene.

    Reservoir Dogs // Watch the Trailer

    Save the Cat (By Blake Snyder) // On Amazon

    • The "Beat Sheet," a now classic writing tool for analyzing a script // Here's one for STAR WARS

    Joseph Campbell links //

    • A cool video explaining his stuff (“The hero’s journey”)
    • Here's his famous book

    Lethal Weapon //"I'm too old for this shit" // "Do Ya Really Wanna Jump? Let's Do It"

    Youʼve Got Mail // The Coffee Shop Scene

    Dumb And Dumber // "So youʼre sayin' Thereʼs a Chance"

    Princess Bride // "Have fun storming the castle"

    Adaptation //

    • Watch the Trailer
    • Robert McKee Seminar Scene
    • Robert McKee talking about the dangers of formulaic screenwriting

    Charlie Kauffman // Long ass (but worth a watch) Screenwriting Master Class

    Watchmen // Watch the Trailer

    What to Know for your FIRST TIME HAVING SEX

    Children of Men // Watch the trailer

    AMP studios // Check out the website

    2001: A Space Odyssey // A great behind the scenes video

    Mulholland Drive // Watch the trailer

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    14. Rollers Has a Start Date, Anamorphic Lenses and Earthquakes // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 10 Sep 25, 2018
    Show notes


    Catch up on Rollers // Zay is setting some dates on the record: FEBRUARY 4, 2019

    Editing Robots // Apparently they exist in some form… Too bad they suck.

    A terrible overview of lenses

    • Mainly the difference between anamorphic and spherical lenses.
    • Thank you @RedCamera for the helpful information

    How “super” film works // Short version is that they move the soundtrack and use more of the film stock for the image. Here’s the longer version.

    Photo Emulsion paint!!!! //

    • This might be the coolest thing ever
    • How to print photos onto objects

    “Momento Mori” / “Remember Death.”

    The Belly of the Beast // This is the history of the “Brazen Bull.”

    The Colosseum in Rome // It was actually built between 70 and 80 AD.


    Going back in time with iPhones! //

    • Flappy Bird and the Mario iPhone Game
    • Jon says if he could find some metal he could charge up in iPhone in 70 AD.
    • Here’s a how-to video…for charging a phone without electricity.

    New Movie Idea // Guy goes back in time, brings a disease, wipes out Rome at its peak.

    "Preppers" // Here are the kind you should apparently avoid

    A Conversation about Hiroshima and Nuclear Bombs

    • This man survived Hiroshima and Nagasaki // Tsutomu Yamaguchi
    • Hiroshima, by John Hersey - A first hand account of the blasts there
    • The Hiroshima Peace Museum that Jon visited
    • The Tzar Bomba (the largest explosion ever created). The bomb dropped over Hiroshima was yielded a blast of about 15 kilotons. The Tzar Bomb yielded a blast that was 500,000 kilotons, about 33 times larger.


    32:00 // MAIL BAG

    • Ted Turner is building Westworld! // Check out his ranches… It’s insane.
    • Dan Hekman grew up by a Bison Farm
    • Everglades National Park // The most beautiful and terrifying place ever?
    • Adaptation // A film written by Charlie Kaufman and directed by Spike Jonze // Watch the trailer


    Jon and Zay Give some Podcast Recommendations

    • Serial Season 3 // Here’s the website
    • S-Town // One of the finest podcasts ever created
    • Serial Season 1 // It took place near Zay’s House in Baltimore
    • The Polybius Conspiracy (2017) // From Radiotopia
    • Donkey Kong // The video of the world record
    • Filmspotting // Easily one of the best podcasts on film. Period. Find them at filmspotting.net
    • Scuffed // A great soccer podcast you should check it out here

    Existential question check in // Do you think you did, or are doing, your life “right?” Don’t forget to write in! And thanks to Archie for giving us a great honest answer. Hit us at info@mamabearstudios.com

    54:00 // The inaugural episode of “Libertarian Ranting with Jon and Zay.”

    The Greatest Sign Flipper Ever // How does he do it? Lots of wasted time…

    Rosemary’s Baby //

    • The Novel (1967) - By Ira Levin
    • Roman Polanski // Sharon Tate // The Manson Murders (1969)

    Gimme Shelter (1970) // The documentary chronicles The famous concert at Altamont where the Hell’s Angels stabbed and killed a young black man.

    Peter Biskind // Basically the official chronicler of Hollywood

    • Easy Riders, Raging Bulls: How the Sex-Drugs-and-Rock 'N' Roll Generation Saved Hollywood (1999) // This book is amazing. READ IT.
    • Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film (2005) // This book is also incredible. If you’re interested in working in film, read them BOTH.


    Credits and Personal Links:

    A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

    Produced and edited by: Isaiah Smallman

    Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

    Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

    Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz

    Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

    Show Website | ThatWay.fm

    Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

    Jon Twitter

    Isaiah Instagram

    Isaiah IMDB

    Isaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses)

    Isaiah LinkedIn

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    13. Writing Scripts, Getting Big Dogged & The Calabasas Clambake // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 9 Sep 18, 2018
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    Gold Star // One of Zay’s favorite songs called “Crooked Teeth.”

    Zay might be losing it // Here's a picture of the peak behind the Hollywood sign where Zay shouted "I'm gonna make a movie" and then pissed on LA.

    Kids See Ghosts // Feel the Love

    • Here’s a video of Kanye singing “Poopity Scoop” for 9 Hours
    • Lil Pump & Kanye (music video)

    The guy who ran around naked got famous for the “KONY 2012” situation // Here’s a TMZ video of him running around naked

    A Star Is Born // Starring Bradley “Smolder” Cooper and Lady “Damn, That Girl can sing” Gaga

    • Watch the Trailer
    • Wikipedia covers some of the history of the movie.

    The Silver Linings Playbook// (One of) the Bradley Cooper movies with Jennifer Lawrence is // Watch the Trailer

    Crazy Rich Asians // Watch the Trailer

    A video crash course on how Hollywood worked in its Golden Age!

    Here’s a link to some of the biggest spec script sales of all time

    The Greatest Showman // Watch the trailer

    Ted Bundy // Wikipedia

    BTK Omaha Serieal killer // Wikipedia

    Rollers Playlist // Spotify

    The fake weatherman // During Hurricane Florence


    Credits and Personal Links:

    A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

    Produced and edited by: Isaiah Smallman

    Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

    Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

    Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz

    Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

    Show Website | ThatWay.fm

    Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

    Jon Twitter

    Isaiah Instagram

    Isaiah IMDB

    Isaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses)

    Isaiah LinkedIn

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    12. Tax Credits, Penny Stocks and Peter Dinklage's Dingaling // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 8 Sep 14, 2018
    Show notes

    Opie and Anthony // Famous shock jocks from 1995 - 2014

    Vanilla Sky (2001) // Dir. Cameron Crowe // Watch some behind the scenes //

    Sid The Cat // An awesome LA Based Concert Promoter

    The American Legion // Website

    Freemasons and their Temple Lodges

    We're investing all profits into the Soup Nazi's company: SOUPQ

    Penny Stocks // OTC markets

    State Tax Credits // An overview

    Right to Work // Overview

    "Right-to-work laws" are statutes in 27 U.S. states that prohibit union security agreements between companies and workers' unions. Under these laws, employees in unionized workplaces are banned from negotiating contracts which require all members who benefit from the union contract to contribute to the costs of union representation. - Wikipedia

    Ted Turner //

    • Turner broadcasting
    • Ted’s statehouse
    • Ted’s giant bison farm // Maybe Ted Turner is building "Westworld"
    • Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch yacht collision

    Stephen Baldwin // Wikipedia

    Bob Corker // Wikipedia

    Giant Data Center for the NSA






    Credits and Personal Links:

    A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

    Produced and edited by: Isaiah Smallman

    Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

    Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

    Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz

    Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

    Show Website | ThatWay.fm

    Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

    Jon Twitter

    Isaiah Instagram

    Isaiah IMDB

    Isaiah’s Twitter (which he never uses)

    Isaiah LinkedIn

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


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