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How to Lend Money to Strangers

A podcast about lending innovation and lending leadership in all the markets in which it takes place, however diverse those markets may be. In fact, it’s a case of ‘the more diverse the better,’ with guests from New York to New Zealand discussing everything from crypto-backed mortgages to crowd-funded loans for refugees to gamified loan journeys to AI-powered credit scores.

I am the host, Brendan le Grange, and I have spent the last twenty years working in – or alongside – lenders in Africa, Asia, and Europe and I’m using that experience to find and learn from industry insiders in a series of weekly interviews. Sometimes, those interviews discuss the inspiration behind a new start-up, sometimes they look back at a career spent at the lending coal face, and sometimes they explore where the latest technologies might take us. In the end, if it shapes a lending decision, we’ll talk about how. You can join us every Thursday here, or wherever you prefer to find your podcasts.

You can find more at www.HowToLendMoneytoStrangers.show

Or follow my other projects at https://confirmu.com/, https://www.joinhumoni.com/, https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

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Flexible and intelligent collections for improved returns, with Hannah Baynham Oct 09, 2025

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Getting out of debt has never been harder, and, yes, a sluggish economy and the cost of recovering from a global pandemic play a big role in this, but lenders are not entirely blameless. For too long, it felt cheaper to deliver rigid and unpleasant collections processes, because 'it's not like the customer has a choice'.

But they do, they have the most important choice available: to pay or not to pay.

Collections is not just about 'how do we make the customer pay', it's about 'how do we let them pay' and so, yes, getting out of debt has never been harder, but in today's episode, Hannah Baynham explains how Haboo Money is fixing this with personalised, flexible and intelligent collections.

Haboo Money can be experienced at https://www.haboomoney.com/

Hannah can be reached on LinkedIn at http://linkedin.com/in/hannah-baynham/

As is Haboo, at https://www.linkedin.com/company/haboo-money

I'm on LinkedIn, too, of course, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ as is the show https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers

You can support the show by buying one of my guests via the affiliate links on my site (it doesn't cost you anything extra): https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/recommended-reads

Commercial partners include (when you click one of these affiliate links, I earn a small commission but you won't pay a cent more)

ProtonVPN Browse privately with a community-owned secure VPN that safeguards your privacy. https://go.getproton.me/aff_c?offer_id=26&aff_id=12767

Ogma Risk & Analytics: Customized risk management and analytic consulting for you https://www.ogmara.com/?utm_source=HTLMTS&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=OGMA+intro&utm_id=2501

Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology

Keep well, Brendan

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Work's a joke anyway, so they made it a game! Aug 07, 2025

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Suren Rastogi started his career in financial services, but, called to do something a little more exciting, he has broken away to pursue his dream of launching a board game. We'll talk about his roots, his pivot, and what it took to create Burnout: a chaotic strategic party game about mental health and the daily grind.

Head on over to https://www.burnoutgame.com/ to get on the waitlist, it's the perfect office Secret Santa gift!

Follow the team on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/end_burnout/

And follow Suren on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/surenrastogi/ - you can chat to him about game development, corporate tie-ins, and just about anything to be honest.

I'm on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ as is the show https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers

And if you're interested in other lending folk following their dreams, check out Gideon's episode at https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/episodes/episode-55

You can support the show by buying one of my guests via the affiliate links on my site (it doesn't cost you anything extra): https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/recommended-reads

Commercial partners include (when you click one of these affiliate links, I earn a small commission but you won't pay a cent more)

ProtonVPN Browse privately with a community-owned secure VPN that safeguards your privacy. https://go.getproton.me/aff_c?offer_id=26&aff_id=12767

Ogma Risk & Analytics: Customized risk management and analytic consulting for you https://www.ogmara.com/?utm_source=HTLMTS&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=OGMA+intro&utm_id=2501

Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology

Keep well, Brendan

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Banking (and lending) for the eco-conscious masses (GreenFi) Jul 31, 2025

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Banking that's good for you and the planet. You can see the GreenFi offering first-hand at https://www.greenfi.com/. GreenFi helps you save money, earn cash back, and plant trees - all while keeping your money out of fossil fuels. No mandatory fees. No greenwashing. Just a better way to bank.

You can follow Tim on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothynewell/

Follow GreenFi at the saem time over at https://www.linkedin.com/company/greenfibanking/

I am on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ as is the show https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers

You can support the show by buying one of my guests via the affiliate links on my site (it doesn't cost you anything extra): https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/recommended-reads

Commercial partners include (when you click one of these affiliate links, I earn a small commission but you won't pay a cent more)

ProtonVPN Browse privately with a community-owned secure VPN that safeguards your privacy. https://go.getproton.me/aff_c?offer_id=26&aff_id=12767

Ogma Risk & Analytics: Customized risk management and analytic consulting for you https://www.ogmara.com/?utm_source=HTLMTS&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=OGMA+intro&utm_id=2501

Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology

Keep well, Brendan

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Unbankable, making a movie about lending Jul 24, 2025

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Luke Willms is an award-winning writer, director, and producer... and he's interested in lending. Unabnkable is the culmination of a seven-year, seven-country journey to unravel whether Africa's rich tapestry of tradition, innovation and experimentation to find out if it holds the key to Western economic revitalisation.

Find all the details at https://unbankablemovie.com/ (or watch it on https://tv.apple.com/gb/movie/unbankable/umc.cmc.2b51h3w0b2lbdrvt0af8vklx2 or https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unbankable-Luke-Willms/dp/B0F4767PNF

Follow Luke on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-willms-87250049/

I am on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ as is the show https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers

You can support the show by buying one of my guests via the affiliate links on my site (it doesn't cost you anything extra): https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/recommended-reads

Commercial partners include (when you click one of these affiliate links, I earn a small commission but you won't pay a cent more)

ProtonVPN Browse privately with a community-owned secure VPN that safeguards your privacy. https://go.getproton.me/aff_c?offer_id=26&aff_id=12767

Ogma Risk & Analytics: Customized risk management and analytic consulting for you https://www.ogmara.com/?utm_source=HTLMTS&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=OGMA+intro&utm_id=2501

Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology

Keep well, Brendan

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Embracing GenAI in credit risk (McKinsey) Jul 07, 2025

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McKinsey recently surveyed senior credit risk executives from, among others, nine of the top ten US banks, and they asked them about their organisations’ adoption of GenAI, its current use cases, their future plans for it, and the challenges they expected. Twenty percent of the respondents had already implemented at least one GenAI use case in their organizations, and a further 60 percent expect to do so within a year.

With how quickly AI is embedding itself in our daily lives, we have to assume that's already increased significantly, so I sat down with Arv Govindarajan, one of the authors of that article and a partner at McKinsey & Company, to talk about how lenders are embracing generative AI in credit risk.

McKinsey & Co is online at https://www.mckinsey.com/ (also here, to jump straight to the Risk Dynamics team https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/risk-and-resilience/how-we-help-clients/risk-dynamics)

Click here to read the article we're talking about https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/risk-and-resilience/our-insights/embracing-generative-ai-in-credit-risk

McKinsey are, of course, also on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/mckinsey/

Arv, in turn, is on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/arvindgovindarajan/

I am on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ as is the show https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers

You can support the show by buying one of my guests via the affiliate links on my site (it doesn't cost you anything extra): https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/recommended-reads

Commercial partners include (when you click one of these affiliate links, I earn a small commission but you won't pay a cent more)

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Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology

Keep well, Brendan

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An AI-powered link in the chain (Credibly) Jul 03, 2025

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Simplified funding for SMEs: pre-qualification in minutes, funded within a day, this is not the business lending of yesteryear.

Credibly is at home online at https://www.credibly.com/

You can find Ryan on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rosett-262b642/

While Credibly is there at https://www.linkedin.com/company/credibly/

I am on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ as is the show, at https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers

You can support the show by buying one of my guests via the affiliate links on my site (it doesn't cost you anything extra): https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/recommended-reads

Commercial partners include (when you click one of these affiliate links, I earn a small commission but you won't pay a cent more)

ProtonVPN Browse privately with a community-owned secure VPN that safeguards your privacy. https://go.getproton.me/aff_c?offer_id=26&aff_id=12767

Wedgwood Steeped in a rich heritage, over 260 wonderful years later, Wedgwood continues to be renowned for quality, innovative British design and timeless elegance: https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?s=2447792&v=3370&q=369217&r=2069741

GoWithGuide 100% customizable, private and high-quality tours delivered by local, quality-assured guides and backed by 24/7 efficient and caring 24/7 customer service. You can book a tour in 500 cities around the world: https://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?gid=510974&mid=87121&awinaffid=2069741&linkid=3852288&clickref=

Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology

Keep well, Brendan

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What are the odds? Jun 30, 2025

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I've just added a new section to the website, featuring affiliate links to all the books written by the great guests we've featured on this show - https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/recommended-reads. If you scan that list before you listen to this show, you'll find among them Dr Michael Orkin with What Are the Odds? and Probability & Statistics Made Interesting. Dr. Orkin is a statistics professor and consultant, and a nationally known authority on probability and gambling games who has appeared on numerous TV and radio shows, on various conference stages, and, of course, on the cover of several books.

So I was delighted to chat to him, not least of all because I've recently started teaching analytics myself and, in the process of designing my course, started to fall back in love with some of the quirks and nuances of probability.

You can find Dr Orkin on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-mike-orkin-5600584/

I am on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ as is the show https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers

Commercial partners include (when you click one of these affiliate links, I earn a small commission but you won't pay a cent more)

ProtonVPN Browse privately with a community-owned secure VPN that safeguards your privacy. https://go.getproton.me/aff_c?offer_id=26&aff_id=12767

Wedgwood Steeped in a rich heritage, over 260 wonderful years later, Wedgwood continues to be renowned for quality, innovative British design and timeless elegance: https://www.awin1.com/cread.php?s=2447792&v=3370&q=369217&r=2069741

GoWithGuide 100% customizable, private and high-quality tours delivered by local, quality-assured guides and backed by 24/7 efficient and caring 24/7 customer service. You can book a tour in 500 cities around the world: https://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?gid=510974&mid=87121&awinaffid=2069741&linkid=3852288&clickref=

Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which looks at the intersection between human senses and technology

Keep well, Brendan

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Outsourcing AI (Acuity Knowledge Partners) Jun 26, 2025

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Very early in my career, back in the days when the details from paper forms had to be typed into a computer to get the application process started, I heard about companies scanning application forms and then sending the files to India to have the data capture done there. A decade later, the guy I was chatting to in a hotel bar in Nairobi promised me he could build a collection call centre in India, staffed by Swahili-speaking staff at a fraction of the local cost. And now, as I hear from Rajul Sood, we can outsource an entire AI infrastructure - the back-end of intech is changing just as fast as the front-end!

You can find Acuity Knowledge Partners online at https://www.acuitykp.com/

Rajul is on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajul-sood-vohra-2475b417/ and Acuity Knowledge Partners at https://www.linkedin.com/company/acuity-knowledge-partners

I am on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ as is the show https://www.linkedin.com/company/how-to-lend-money-to-strangers

Commercial partners include: GoWithGuide 100% customizable, private and high-quality tours delivered by local, quality-assured guides and backed by 24/7 efficient and caring 24/7 customer service. You can book a tour in 500 cities worldwide by clicking this affiliate link (I'll earn a small commission, but you won't pay a cent more): https://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?gid=510974&mid=87121&awinaffid=2069741&linkid=3852288&clickref=

Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which will look at the intersection between human senses and technology, especially AI-powered technology.

Keep well, Brendan

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Behind the scenes: investing in loans (Exaloan) Jun 23, 2025

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You can't lend money if you don't have capital. And you can't grow your capital if you don't deploy it. There have long been matchmakers to link those two sides together, but traditionally they've only come into play when the numbers involved started b's or even t's. Exaloan closes the global funding gap for individuals, entrepreneurs, and SMEs by connecting institutional capital with the digital lending ecosystem, digitizing the refinancing processes for lenders.

So today we're taking the loan for granted and looking, instead, at what we do to generate fresh capital and strong returns for investors.

Exaloan can be found online at https://www.exaloan.com/

Luca is on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/luca-andre-frignani/

Exaloan's page is at https://www.linkedin.com/company/exaloan/

You can find me on LinkedIn, too, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/ - please do connect

Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

Meanwhile, my action-adventure novels are on Amazon, some versions even for free, and my work with ConfirmU and our gamified psychometric scores is discussed at https://confirmu.com/ and on episode 24 of this show https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/episodes/episode-24

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which will look at the intersection between human senses and technology, especially AI-powered technology.

Keep well, Brendan

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Growing a business in vitro (Invitro Capital) Jun 19, 2025

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The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people with high ability on a given task tend to underestimate their competence, while those with low ability overestimate theirs. It's typically examples of the second half of that antithesis that make the headlines, but the first half is problematic, too, because sometimes the experts best placed to start a new business are the ones most held back by doubt. And that's why I love the controlled environment that In Vitro Capital has created to, essentially, employ potential founders to build businesses without all the unknowns of traditional entrepreneurship. And it works

Amir Barsoum is the founder, managing partner, and CEO of InVitro Capital, and he takes us through the vision behind it all. You can find Amir on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirmbarsoum/

I'm there, too, and open to all new connection requests (just mention the show) https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlegrange/

You can find In Vitro online at https://invitrocapital.com/about-us/ or on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/invitrocapital

Friends of the show include: https://www.ontap.co.za/pages/hoedspruit-store-details (for all your Hoedspruit-based bathroom needs), https://www.joinhumoni.com, and https://chaos-out-of-order.com/

Meanwhile, my action-adventure novels are on Amazon, some versions even for free, and my work with ConfirmU and our gamified psychometric scores is discussed at https://confirmu.com/ and on episode 24 of this show https://www.howtolendmoneytostrangers.show/episodes/episode-24

And since you like podcasts, I'm also co-create hAIghtened senses with Christo van Zyl, in which will look at the intersection between human senses and technology, especially AI-powered technology.

Keep well, Brendan

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