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    Hire Power Radio Show

    Hire Power Radio is created for entrepreneurs, founders, and business leaders to provide experiential learning & the tools to win-win the strongest people. We share solutions from high performing leaders who have figured out.

    We challenge the conventional thinking of how you may be approaching hiring for your company …And we challenge you to empower your team to deliver structured, unbiased, and evidence based interview practices that attract the high performers that will fuel your business growth.

    Entrepreneurship is a wild ride – Hire Power Radio is here to help you to conquer the hire, then the world!

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    Latest Episodes:
    Aligning the “Why” in the Interview Process with Ted Bradshaw of EOS Worldwide Nov 10, 2022
    Show notes

    “People don't buy what you do, they buy why you do it”. - Simon Sinek

    How does this translate to your hiring? The simple answer is that your company's WHY is the one thing that differentiates whether a person joins for the paycheck or something bigger. Because it is important to them. It is the WIIFM (what's in it for me)

    Right person, right seat needs to happen, every time. Your company depends on it!

    When we hire solely for skills. We experience the Wrong person, Right seat more than 51% of the time.

    When we hire for values first, and skills second, it moves us closer to a 75% success rate of Right Person, Right Seat.

    In addition, when we are in alignment with the “WHY”, the probability of successful hiring skyrockets over the 95 percentile.

    This is how everyone wins. Right person, right seat every time.

    Guest Bio:

    Ted Bradshaw is an Expert EOS Implementer™ & Community Leader at EOS Worldwide.

    He served as an executive with Xerox and IBM, then left the Fortune 500 world to explore the thrills of entrepreneurship.

    What he found was a long string of success that looked great on the surface. But underneath it all, he felt anxious, exhausted, and stressed, chasing money wherever it led and wondering why he never felt fulfilled. Along his journey, Ted gained valuable insight into how a person can achieve fulfillment in all aspects of life and he shares those insights with his best-selling book, Stop Chasing Squirrels.

    Today, Ted lives his passion in helping others find theirs. A leading proponent of the Entrepreneurial Operating System®, Ted is a speaker, author,Expert EOS Implementer™, and the Community Leader for EOS Worldwide

    TODAY WE DISCUSS

    • The importance of aligning WHY
    • How to hire the person that aligns most with your WHY

    Challenge?

    • Organizations need to change their frame
      • Purpose alignment
      • Company helps the person achieve their purpose
      • Right people, right seat
    • Understanding how to develop or bring in people to scale
      • How does the mission complement their people
      • Not selling on the company purpose
      • Employee’s mission/purpose

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Core values are the foundation of your company WHY
      • Values drive purpose (WHY) & mission
      • Align with values, adopt the why as your own
    • Align with purpose but not the values?
      • Passionate about the “work”
      • Disruptive to the organization
        • Operate in a manner that is counter-productive to the rest of the organization?
        • Wrong person, right seat

    How do we solve the problem?

    • Clear on Core Values
      • Mission to mars exercise
      • Culture of the organization
      • Founder or exec team often generates
      • Jim Collins - Built to Last
      • This is the definition of right person for the company
      • Right people on the bus
    • Hard look a the company mission
      • Look through the lens of the employee
      • Why does this matter to them
    • Understanding the employees purpose
      • Leaders need to understand their why first
      • Help theme to get there
      • Or find it

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Core Values
      • Define what they mean in terms of how we operate, make decisions and treat others
      • Measurables to avoid being subjective
    • Getting to the WHY
      • Attract & repel people
      • “Everything we do is to help entrepreneurs to build the strongest companies. Starting with the roots of effective interviewing to hire the strongest people”
    • Proactive Interviewing
      • Listen first
        • Why open?
        • What is desired (positioning)
    • Candidate ownership of the process (do they WANT it?)
      • “What would you like to do?”
      • “What value would you get from moving forward?”
    • Working session (Capacity to do the work)
      • Real-life working scenario
      • Solving a real problem
      • Understanding: technical skills, problem-solving abilities, communication style, presentation skills, team interaction, passion for the work

    Key Takeaways that the Audience can plug into their business today! (Value):

    • Look at your own personal purpose. Ist it aligned with the company purpose
    • Ask leaders what their purpose is and how does it align with the company

    Guest Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedbradshaw/
    • Website: https://www.tedbradshaw.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pura-vida-coaching/
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/ted_bradshaw?s=20&t=Ol9g6VgvRaF9UWRV0EpOpw
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tedbradshawco/
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tedbradshawco

    Host Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.hirepowerradio.com
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEJm9RoCfu8y7AJpaxkxqQ
    • Authored: "Healing Career Wounds" https://amzn.to/3tGbtre
    • HireOS inquiry: rick@stridesearch.com

    Show Sponsors:

    • www.stridesearch.com
    • www.intertru.ai

    Maximizing VC Hiring Referrals with Rob Whalen of PTO Exchange Nov 03, 2022
    Show notes

    Referrals are most often your most potent source of talent for your organization.
    So investor referrals must be the holy grail of all referrals. After all, there is a vested interest in your company's success so why shouldn't the referrals be outstanding?

    Here’s the thing to consider. Yes, these referrals are gold but it is dangerous to assume that this person will automatically thrive in your unique company. We cannot forgo a formal interview process based on a strong voucher from a trusted source.

    The only way we discover if they will in fact thrive, is to be diligent in the interview process to really understand if the person desires the value your organization brings to the table. .

    The decision needs to be made through evidence and buy-in rather than confirmation bias and assumptions.

    Guest Bio:

    Robert Whalen is the Co-founder and CEO of PTO Exchange, the first benefits platform that allows employees to self-direct the value of their unused paid time off for other needs and causes.

    He is a serial entrepreneur that has over 25 years selling and developing software and hardware products for the world.

    Under his leadership, Rob and his co-founder, Todd Lucas led PTO Exchange to “Cool Vendor of the year” by Gartner in 2017 and awarded “Awesome New Technologies" at the Health and Benefits Leadership Conference in 2018.

    TODAY WE DISCUSS:

    • Investor referrals: The value & challenges
    • The importance of proper diligence in your interview process for referrals

    HIRING STORY:

    When we first started the business with 4 founders, 2 of us were working on the project constantly and the other 2 were not putting in the time so prior to vesting we bought the other two out.

    We had to do this to keep a clean up the cap table so that we could raise capital.

    Going through this process we realized having that right person at the right time joining the company is really important. So we put a simple process in place

    1. What the company needs or needs to know in our case.
    2. 3 things we are looking to have them accomplish - alignment
    3. 3 interviews at minimum
    4. Gut check - (culture, willingness to learn)
    5. Reference checks

    PROBLEM:

    Challenge?

    When you raise capital you hope those investors will bring value and relationships. But investors aren’t there day in and day out managing the business and they sometimes associate a person's success at another of their other companies to the value that individual could bring to yours

    Most of the time the investors' relationships are with the other executives and most of the time you aren’t looking for a high paid person.

    An example is when we were hiring a VP of Sales as a small company.

    • VC wanted them to hire a particular person
      • Expensive
      • No skin in the game
      • Not a known entity to you - getting dirty
    • Not the highest paying company
      • Get to do things they wouldn't be able to do at a large company
      • Mission-driven people - passionate about the mission
      • Do they care about what we do

    Why is this important to the company?

    • People have to fit in with the culture
    • They are a large % of the population
    • They need to be able to learn, be curious, and take on responsibility

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Value in referrals
    • Cannot rush or fast track the process.
      • Work within your timeline
      • No skipping steps

    How do we solve the problem?

    • Knowing when to say no to the investor
      • This is sometimes tough to do when they are looking to help your business and they don’t see their input being considered
      • When people try and help you, you need to understand that those suggestions or introductions come with emotions attached.
      • Having a process that to hiring helps facilitate your decisions and reasoning. Which helps take the emotions out of the decision
    • In an early-stage company where you might not have the money or benefits to attract the top-top tier individuals. we look for those candidates who are trying to grow into the role.
      • Candidates that have the experience but do not have the title and maybe they are looking to have more responsibility because that comes with being in a small/agile company.
      • They have the ability to solve problems and are open to new ways of thinking.
    • Look for the hidden value in the person
      • The individual needs to have the willingness to learn and take on responsibility
      • Finding the intangibles that they can bring to the team.
        • Usually this is in comes from their personal experiences and not their career experiences
    • Personality fit
      • We look for candidates that have similar passions but different problem-solving skills
      • This brings diversity in developing our company’s ability to be more agile when confronted with roadblocks.

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Values fit first
      • Does the person operate to the expectations of the rest of the organization?

    Key Takeaways that the Audience can plug into their business today! (Value):

    • Create a process - simple is best but a process that works for the size of your company.
    • I have made great hires and bad hires. The difference in those decisions was not following the process and being in a hurry to fill the role. Taking things slowly, stepping back, and following a process would have shed light on what later became an issue.
    • Culture fit is the most important piece.
    • I have a rule of thumb.
      • When making a big purchase, walk away and reflect on how this purchase is going to impact your life. Because making a wrong purchase can have a very negative impact on you. I have found the same rule applies when hiring employees.

    Guest Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-whalen-1287077/
    • Company: https://www.ptoexchange.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pto/
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/ptoexchange
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ptoexchange
    • Blog: https://www.ptoexchange.com/blog

    Host Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.hirepowerradio.com
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEJm9RoCfu8y7AJpaxkxqQ
    • Authored: "Healing Career Wounds" https://amzn.to/3tGbtre
    • Startup: www.intertru.ai
    • HireOS® inquiry: rick@stridesearch.com

    Show Sponsor:

    • www.stridesearch.com
    • www.intertru.ai

    Hiring the Right Person in the Wrong Seat with Thomas Brunskill of Forage Oct 27, 2022
    Show notes

    How often have you hired the right person for the wrong seat?

    Here’s how that happens.

    A person is identified and it is assumed that because of their background that they crush it for you. After all, they are already doing it for someone else.

    Perfect logic, right? Nope!

    The reason this logic is so dangerous for your company is that current skills are just a small part of success. As we have all experienced, by going above and beyond to land that “rockstar” from a name brand company. Only to have them crash and burn within the first 90 days.

    To avoid this dilemma in the future, we simply need to understand the person’s desires and level of accomplishment first. Interviewing to understand, not to sell.

    This produces much stronger evidence to predict of success of your new hire in your unique business.

    Guest Bio:

    Tom Brunskill is the co-founder and CEO of Forage which is changing the world of career discovery and skill building.

    Before moving to San Francisco, Tom was a corporate lawyer at a multinational law firm in Australia. It was during his own career journey that Tom discovered that an education and a degree doesn’t necessarily translate to knowing how to do a specific job role. He also realized just how inequitable the education-to-workforce pathway is.

    After observing the unfair advantage those with access to connections or educational opportunities had, Tom made it his mission to provide anyone the ability to learn skills through virtual job simulations produced by the world’s top companies,

    By breaking down barriers to gaining workplace-specific skills.

    Tom hopes to level the opportunity playing field and empower anyone to pursue their dream career.

    TODAY WE DISCUSS

    • Why your company might be the wrong seat for the right candidate
    • How to avoid wrong seat hires

    HIRING STORY

    This isn’t a story about a hire we did make, but a hire we wanted to make and didn’t pull off.

    We were building out our leadership team between our Series A and Series B. Obviously in an early-stage company, getting the right leaders into your organization is crucial. Leaders in early-stage environments have a disproportionate influence on the ultimate success or demise of a company so the stakes are high.

    On this particular search for this VP role, I was finding it really tough. It was the middle of 2021 when start-ups were sitting on a record amount of capital and there was a real pinch finding exceptional talent...

    Challenge?

    • Too many people end up in the wrong seats.
      • Education on what the roles look like
      • Gap between the candidate's perspective and what the role really is
      • Realistic depiction of what it is like to work in the company
        • Attract the right people
        • Le
      • Companies use the wrong signals when they hire
        • Schools, companies
        • Don't predict future success

    Why is this important to the company?

    • High attrition 73% failure rate
    • SHRM reports that the cost of replacing an employee is approximately 33% of that employee’s salary
    • But that’s just the direct cost of having to find and replace that employee. It doesn’t take into account the indirect costs of a disengaged, non-aligned workforce.
    • My broader take is that recruitment processes traditionally focus on getting bums on seats rather than the right bums on the right seats. Until you figure out how to design a process that gets the right people into the right roles for the long-term, employers will continue losing millions in direct costs and lost productivity.

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • What a person desires needs to be discovered in the 1st conversation!
    • Do they get it, want it, and have the capacity to do it

    How do we solve the problem?

    • Educate the candidate pipeline
      • The recruitment process has typically worked as a ‘hire then train’ model. I believe that in an age of software employers should be training their candidates first then hiring. And this needs to start at the top of the funnel.
      • This is a great model for both candidates and employers. If you take the time to educate your candidate pipeline on who your company actually is and what the roles truly entail, you are going to attract the right type of candidates rather than a large pool of applicants who have no real idea whether they truly want to work for you or not.
      • Volume has become the enemy of quality. Too many HR tech companies and employers have focused on removing friction from the recruitment process in the pursuit of getting the maximum number of candidates. That’s dumb. I would argue that it’s actually far better to introduce positive friction - and education or a ‘try before you buy’ model is a great example of positive friction.
      • What does education actually look like?
        • What are your values?
        • Who are your people?
        • What are you building? And why?
        • What does this specific role look like?
      • Be authentic and realistic. Don’t sell a candidate a lemon otherwise you will end up with lemons. You don’t want your hires to turn up on day 1 and realize they’ve signed up to something which didn’t fit their expectations. Employers and candidates don’t win in that situation.
      • The other great consequence of spending time educating your candidate pipeline is that you’re more likely to attract candidates from broad and diverse audiences.
    • Better hiring signals:
      • So educating your candidate pipeline is the first crucial step towards getting the right person into the right seat. But then you have to look at the hiring signals you are using to hire candidates.
      • My view is employers do a very poor job of what hiring signals they use to make a hire. I do a lot of work in early-talent recruitment where employers over-index your GPA, what school you went to, and other signals which statistically just don’t correlate to long-term success in a role. If they were indicative of success, you wouldn’t see 70% attrition.
      • But even in start-up land I see this happen and I have fallen into the trap of this myself. The classic hiring signal trap in start-up land is over-indexing where someone was an early employee at a successful company. You will often hear a founder say ‘We just hired employee no #25 from Salesforce’. I have found out the hard way that the connection between being an early employee of a successful company and going to be a great hire at your company is tenuous at best.
      • One of the most underrated hiring signals, especially for more junior employees, is intent. Does the candidate exhibit demonstrable intent that they are deeply interested in your work, your people, your values and your brand? My bet is that if you truly vetted for intent during the recruitment process, 9 out of 10 hires you made would become exceptional hires. And compared to the mean, that’s a pretty good strike rate.
    • Simulations / case studies:
      • So you’ve educated your candidate pipeline and vetted that candidate pool using better hiring signals. What’s the final step?
      • I strongly believe in the use of simulations or case studies during the recruitment process.
      • When you get down to your final few candidates, you want to give them an opportunity to road test working with your team and the problems your company is focused on solving. And vice versa, you want to be able to see the candidate in action before you commit to hiring them.
      • This is undoubtedly the most interesting and illuminating part of any recruitment process. Understanding the way a candidate thinks, communicates, builds in a live setting can’t be replicated. It’s obviously crucially important for the employer to see them in action, but equally important for the candidate to see their new potential team and company in action. So any great case study or simulation requires active participation from both sides.

    Rick’s Nuggets

    • Values
      • Own who you are & your environment
      • Does the candidate “get” your values. If not, let them go
    • Evidence over “feel”
      • Train interviewers to extract evidence to support their decisions
      • Discovery call & Interview
      • Record and document the data
    • Desire it
      • Does the person want what you offer
      • Is there value in your opportunity for the individual?
      • Does the candidate recognize and feed back the value
        • “ What's in it for me”

    Key Takeaways that the Audience can plug into their business today! (Value):

    • Educate your candidate pipeline. Figure out how you can adopt a ‘train then hire’ model so that you’re attracting high-intent candidates who truly want to work at your company.
    • Look for better hiring signals. Stop and think about whether the signals you are currently using truly connect to long-term success. Instead of pedigree, college, GPA, who they know, look for signals such as motivation, demonstrable intent and true capability.
    • Use case studies and simulations for your very best candidates. It’s a super illuminating exercise for both you and the candidate to figure out if you are truly a good match.

    Guest Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tombrunskill/
    • Company: http://www.theforage.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theforage/
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theforage1
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/theforage_
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theforage_/

    Host Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.hirepowerradio.com
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEJm9RoCfu8y7AJpaxkxqQ
    • Authored: "Healing Career Wounds" https://amzn.to/3tGbtre
    • Startup: www.intertru.ai
    • HireOS® inquiry: rick@stridesearch.com

    Show Sponsor:

    • www.stridesearch.com
    • www.intertru.ai

    How Your Company Can Hire Like Amazon with Steve Anderson of Catalyit Oct 20, 2022
    Show notes

    Amazon’s leadership principles (Core Values) have been the most critical element in their unprecedented success. Value alignment first, and skills second.

    So why is this not a standard practice among all up-and-coming startups?

    The reason I believe is that leaders then become accountable for their actions when they misbehave. Without values, it is easy to hide. It is easy to rationalize bad decisions and easier to deflect blame when the shit hits the fan.

    This is why 9 out of 10 startups fail. Without the right people, your company will not be able to execute. And the right people are attracted to more than just money. They want growth, structure, and purpose.

    When your company demonstrates that none of these elements are present, the A-players run! And what you are left with are the people who are willing to take the job.

    Guest Bio:

    Steve Anderson is the CEO of Catalyit. He has spent decades shaping the insurance industry through a deeper understanding of emerging technologies and how businesses today can best integrate and leverage them.

    Steve is a sought-after speaker and influencer. He is also the author of the widely-anticipated book The Bezos Letters, where he reveals 14 principles for business growth based on the ideas and patterns that emerged when he examined Jeff Bezos’ 21 annual letters to Amazon shareholders.

    TODAY WE DISCUSS:

    • Balancing need with patience to get the right hire
    • How to put the right structure in place to land them

    HIRING STORY:

    • Hired an operations manager, who seemed like a good fit. Terminated after 3 months. Hired too fast! Pressure to move fast from start to offer in 3 days. The person already had an offer.
    • He didn't follow his own advice.

    Challenge?

    • Balance need with hiring the right person
      • Miscasting a hire
      • Don't hire when you rushed to fill a position
      • The interview process is not intentional.
      • Not having a hiring process, hiring questions (winging it)

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Problem: Pacing is determined by the candidate
      • Clue that the person just needs the money
      • Mitigated by disclosing your hiring process & timeline
    • Intention: purpose of the interview?

    How do we solve the problem?

    • Structure
      • Have a good job description
      • Have a good hiring & interview process
        • Intentional interviews
        • Amazon
        • Will you admire this person?
        • Will this person raise the average level of effectiveness of the group
        • Along what dimension might this person be a superstar
    • Don't cave into the pressure
      • Candidate pressure
      • Own need pressure
      • Find short term solutions while the interview process is moving along
    • Be willing to fire fast
      • Not fully committing or fully focused
      • Not understanding urgency

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Evidence trumps assumptions
    • Pacing determined by the process, not the person
    • No need to fire, when you have hired the strongest person

    Key Takeaways that the Audience can plug into their business today! (Value):

    • Process is key to success
    • Need a place to start - Use Amazon’s hiring questions
    • Culture fit might be more important than skills.

    Guest Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevetn/
    • Personal: https://thebezosletters.com/
    • Company: https://catalyit.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/catalyit/
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveTN
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SteveAndersonNetwork/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steveanderson/

    Host Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.hirepowerradio.com
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEJm9RoCfu8y7AJpaxkxqQ
    • Authored: "Healing Career Wounds" https://amzn.to/3tGbtre
    • Startup: www.intertru.ai
    • HireOS™ inquiry: rick@stridesearch.com

    Show Sponsor:

    • www.intertru.ai
    • www.stridesearch.com

    The Hire, Fire, Hire, Fire Cycle with Jason Sherman of Spinnr Oct 13, 2022
    Show notes

    There is nothing more disappointing than a hire that does not work out.

    Especially when the person hired was someone you were convinced, would be a great hire!

    Conventional wisdom says “hire slow, fire fast” but this almost never happens. Because we are too concerned with filling the role fast. Triaging our pain.

    Maybe if we really hired slowly, the interview would produce much stronger results.

    To break the hire, fire cycle we must ignore our assumptions about the person's resume and start by gathering evidence. Evidence that supports a proper decision that ensures a successful hire.

    Guest Bio:

    Jason Sherman is a successful innovator, award-winning filmmaker, published author, tech startup expert, and the co-founder of the video friendship app Spinnr.

    Jason’s methodologies on entrepreneurship and data-driven decisions are his main source of education for those he helps worldwide. His startup book Strap on your Boots is the culmination of his life’s work to help other entrepreneurs succeed with a podcast of the same name, and is the focus of a class he created called Startup Essentials.

    Jason is fluent in Spanish, is a classically trained violinist, and was a featured speaker on FOX’s Emmy award-winning Futurist TV Show: Xploration Earth 2050.

    TODAY WE DISCUSS:

    • Breaking the hire, fire cycle

    Challenge?

    • Finding people who are excited about the company vs just looking for a job
    • Care about being part of something where your creative input matter
      • Just there for the paycheck
      • Uninterested, unenthusiastic, easy remote work paycheck
      • A lot of time onboarding
      • Time differences

    Why is this important to the company?

    • Bad hires impede growth

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Positioning
    • Time

    How do we solve the problem?

    • Finding the excited people in the interview
      • Install the app, try it out, and tell us what they think
      • Give feedback
      • website & social media content
      • Smiling happy
      • Have questions about the business
    • Not focusing on payment/ paycheck
      • Excited to learn they can earn stock options
      • Ownership
    • Get through the process to find the 4 people who worked
      • What to do before the interview
      • Share pitch deck to understand the company mission
      • Have everything ready in a package for onboarding
      • What have you done; share your work
    • Filming content event
      • Content creation hiring day
      • Gig hiring

    Rick’s Nuggets;

    • Positioning
    • Get it, want it, capacity to do it
    • Do they really desire what you offer?
    • A, B, or C player?
    • Don't be the destination for a JOB (ie: paycheck)
    • Interview with purpose
    • Get to the truth
    • Not sell
    • Interview design
    • Truth fast
    • Empowered decision-making - Keep your people productive
    • Evidence trumps gut

    Key Takeaways that the Audience can plug into their business today! (Value):

    • Finding the excited people who want to do what you do.
    • Fully read & understand what your business is. Come with questions
    • Don't discount onsite parties to hire people. Compensate people who show up

    Guest Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonsherman76/
    • Personal: https://jasonsherman.org
    • Company: https://spinnr.app/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/appspinnr
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/appspinnr
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/spinnr_app
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spinnr_app

    Host Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.hirepowerradio.com
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEJm9RoCfu8y7AJpaxkxqQ
    • Authored: "Healing Career Wounds" https://amzn.to/3tGbtre
    • Startup: www.intertru.ai
    • HireOS inquiry: rick@stridesearch.com

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    • www.stridesearch.com

    How Conversational Interviews Breed Bias & Discrimination with Robert Hudock of Hudock Employment Law Group Oct 05, 2022
    Show notes

    Every interview that happens in your company needs to have a purpose.

    There is a specific purpose for the phone screen, which is positioning & quality of the individual.

    The onsite interview’s purpose, does this person align with our company values and finally, the skills interview’s purpose is to determine if the person has the capacity to thrive in the role.

    Too often the directive is given to “have a conversation to find out if you would like to work with this person”. And it is in this non-structured format that bias and discrimination fester because the interviewers don’t understand the interview’s purpose.

    Guest Bio:

    Robert Hudock founded Hudock Employment Law Group in 2015 to deliver tailored legal services to California companies that thrive in vibrant, creative work environments. His clients are often companies looking at new markets and competitive opportunities, that want to recruit the best talent available while avoiding distracting workplace issues or lawsuits.

    Robert is also a competitive triathlete, which requires careful planning, attention to detail, and dedication. He uses those characteristics in his professional life for his client's benefit.

    TODAY WE DISCUSS:

    • Employment law issues in the hiring process you may not know–but should.

    Challenge?

    • The 3 most common recruiting and hiring functions in which employment-related issues can arise are: (1) job posting/advertisement, (2) interviewing, and (3) assessing fitness for a position (e.g., any criminal history, drug screening, physical capabilities, psychological health).
    • California’s anti-discrimination laws explicitly apply not only to employees and termination of employment, but also to applicants and “refusing to hire” based on a characteristic protected under the applicable antidiscrimination laws (e.g., age, disability, gender, race, etc.).

    Why is this important to the company?

    • Consider a scenario where your company spends significant time and resources on employment law compliance and protecting itself from lawsuits, only to be subject to an employment-related claim that could have been prevented but for a gap in general knowledge and available preventative strategies relating to recruiting and hiring. Today we’re going to introduce you to the topic and some possible preventive measures.

    How do we solve the problem?

    • Interviewing: any non-job-related inquiry that "expresses, directly or indirectly, any limitation, specification, or discrimination as to” any protected characteristic is prohibited
      • Common implicated categories: age, disability, national origin
      • Some examples may surprise you - you may have been asked such questions and you answered without a second thought, the questions are relatively common, or are common topics of conversation:

    SUBJECT

    ACCEPTABLE

    UNACCEPTABLE

    Age

    Virtually nothing - but allowed when law requires it

    • Birth date
    • Date of attendance or completion of school
    • Any question, the answer to which may have information indirectly revealing or suggesting that applicant is 40 or over (e.g., “how old are your children?”)

    National Origin

    Inquiries re verification of legal right to work in US

    • Where born (applicant or applicant’s relatives)
    • Where applicant grew up
    • Applicant’s nationality or nationalities (e.g., Polish, Iraqi, Mexican)

    Marital Status/Family

    Virtually nothing

    • Whether applicant is married
    • Whether applicant has children; or number or ages of children

    Religion

    Statements re regular days, hours, or shifts of the position

    • Applicant’s availability to work on specific days or during specific hours (could reveal religion if unique religious days or times are observed)
    • Can be anything relating to religious creed (all aspects of religious belief, observance, and practice, including religious dress and grooming practices)
    • Identify and define, BEFORE interviewing, any legal justification for discriminating with respect to a protected category
      • As with job postings, antidiscrimination law does not categorically preclude any and all inquiries into matters relating to protected categories, or lawful discrimination. For example:
    • AGE: When a law specifically requires a certain age for job, or requires keeping records re employees’ ages or related information
    • RELIGION: When an inquiry directly or indirectly relates to any religious belief or practice does not have any “exclusionary effect”
    • DISABILITY: An inquiry re physical capabilities legitimately related to ability to perform an essential job function
    • Proper education and training of all interviewers
    • How to respond when applicant volunteers information
    • Let’s say an interviewer and interviewee are discussing where the interviewee obtained his/her undergraduate degree
    • The interviewee, making friendly conversation, says tongue-in-cheek: “...that’s hard to remember for an old guy like me, but I’ll never forget these seemingly endless stairs going up to where I met with my “Campus Christians” group. It was like running a marathon once a month because of my knee injury” → just that short aside references three protected categories (age, religion, and disability)
    • In these types of circumstances, the interviewer should (1) steer the discussion away from references to any protected category, and (2) and at some point identify the company’s commitment to equal opportunity
      • E.g., “Interesting. That story makes me think about how this company supports equal opportunity and has a strong policy against discrimination.” Let’s move on to your work experience.”

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Teach your people the purpose of each stage
    • What data are they expected to gather during the conversation
    • Provide a script to each person
    • Behavioral interviews
      • Tell me about a time when…
      • How did that work?
      • Walk me through that…
      • What steps did you take…

    Key Takeaways that the Audience can plug into their business today! (Value):

    • Develop job descriptions and use them as a foundation for interviews; this can help interviewers remain focused on job qualifications and duties
    • Education/training of anyone who will be conducting an interview; e.g., covering the topics we’ve been discussing today

    Guest Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hudockemploymentlaw/
    • Company: https://hudockemploymentlaw.com/

    Host Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.hirepowerradio.com
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEJm9RoCfu8y7AJpaxkxqQ
    • Authored: "Healing Career Wounds" https://amzn.to/3tGbtre
    • HireOS inquiry: rick@stridesearch.com | www.intertru.ai

    Show Sponsor:

    • www.stridesearch.com

    The Perfect Recruiting Email with Dustin Riechmann of Simple Success Coaching Sep 29, 2022
    Show notes

    Do you ever wonder why only a small percentage of people respond to your recruiting emails?

    The answer is that there is nothing in it for them.

    Especially if the person you are trying to recruit is already working.

    Let’s be honest, selling people on what we NEED only attracts people who are actively looking, and 99% of messages all sound the same!

    Here's why we are great…
    What we need…
    What we offer…
    Skills you must have…
    Ending with the hurdles you have to leap, to talk to us

    To gain higher response rates, and attract the people you need to respond, we must first change our positioning. Starting with answering the question, “what’s in it for them” above and beyond just a paycheck.

    Guest Bio:

    Dustin Riechmann, owner of Simple Success Coaching, is a strategic marketing coach who helps mission-driven entrepreneurs rapidly increase profits and massively grow their network using a Partnership Marketing System.

    TODAY WE DISCUSS:

    • Recruiting messaging
    • How to write a solid cold email

    Challenge?

    • Low response rates to outreach
    • Viewed as a spammer
    • Ineffective or confusing communication

    Why is this important to the company?

    • Effects reputation
    • Need communication to grow
    • Every missed communication opportunity costs money
    • Lost opportunity

    Rick’s Nuggets

    • No value, no response

    How do we solve the problem?

    • Perfect Pitch Email
      • This template has proven to be highly effective at getting positive replies from potential partners in a single cold-pitch email. It consists of 5 key components:
    • Direct email address
      • Hunter.io, Chatterworks, Swordfish
      • Social media profiles, Google search
      • Bypass gatekeepers
      • Avoid filters
    • Curious subject line
      • Something Personal (reference an episode number for a podcast)
      • Job is to get someone to open the email
      • From field matters
      • Sample: dog poop
    • Relational Anchors (beginning)
      • Not a random weirdo from the internet
      • Find the point(s) you have in common
      • Demonstrate you’re familiar with their work/interests/passions
      • Flatter them!
    • Clear Win for the Person You’re Pitching (middle)
      • Demonstrate how you will add value to them
      • Compelling bullet point summary
      • Eyes may go here first so make it super interesting
    • Clear Ask (end)
      • Call-to-action that’s an easy yes
      • “Are you interested?”
      • Simple signature with a single link to your site

    Rick’s Nuggets

    • Craft messaging toward the people that won't normally respond
    • Target the top 10%
    • Subject Line
      • Subject:
      • Real quick or How’s my Telepathy?
    • Opener
      • Thought-provoking, laugh or cry
      • I know you have been eagerly anticipating my email but just received your telepathic message so I apologize for taking so long to get back to you ;-).
    • Acknowledge the Pain (Pain)
      • Reason to not ignore
      • “I understand you are pretty good at your job but your talents in XXXX (personalize) may be a bit underappreciated (or underutilized, under-challenged, or over-managed) in your current role. Obviously, I am not sure about your situation but I wanted to find out if you are open to hearing about a situation that could provide more impact on you both personally & professionally.”
    • Call to Action (Benefit loaded)
      • I'm here to listen….
      • “The signals I received from you were strong and I get your urgency. We should talk as I may be able to help alleviate your pain!
      • Let me know your availability for a quick phone conversation this afternoon. If the timing is off, please respond “Not Interested” so that I do not fill up your Inbox with additional messages. (- for LinkedIn) I look forward to your response.”

    Key Takeaways that the Audience can plug into their business today! (Value):

    • How to craft compelling emails that get an 80% response rate when sent to “cold” prospects, recruits or partners.

    Guest Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustinriechmann/
    • Company: https://simplesuccesscoaching.com/

    Host Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.hirepowerradio.com
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEJm9RoCfu8y7AJpaxkxqQ
    • Authored: "Healing Career Wounds" https://amzn.to/3tGbtre
    • HireOS inquiries: rick@stridesearch.com

    Show Sponsor:

    • www.stridesearch.com

    Top 3 Offer Mistakes when Hiring with Rick Girard of Intertru Inc. Sep 22, 2022
    Show notes

    It has been decided that we want to hire a person who made it through our interview process. Yay!

    Now we invest the time to have the “offer conversation” about what it is going to take for you to join us. Eagerly, we present our case, discuss our benefits & perks, and divulge our rationale behind what we would like to pay our hot new employee.

    The only problem is, that having this conversation now, is too late.

    When the stakes are low, people are the most open and truthful. And the stakes are lowest at the beginning of the relationship. The first conversation is the most important time to have the offer discussion.

    Before the interview even happens!

    Today we’re going to discuss:

    • The 3 most common offer mistakes
    • How to remedy them for offer acceptance

    Challenges today?

    • Gathering information too late
      • The end of the interaction is the worst place to start developing the relationship with the person
      • Candidates feel like they are being sold- which they are
        • “Now that I passed your tests, you want to know me better”
      • Candidate is now totally focused on the money
        • Highest offer blinders
    • Offers based on general assumptions
      • Shallow focused interview
        • I've demonstrated I can do what you need
        • One sized-fits-all
    • Offer acceptance
      • Shop your offer to other suitors
      • Time to think about the offer means:
        • I don't believe what you are trying to sell me!

    Why is this important to the company?

    • Excessive interviewing & offer turndowns are a tremendous waste of time

    How do we solve the problem?

    • Gathering information too late
      • Discovery call - First Contact
        • Understanding the Pain, Desire (Positioning)
          • Legitimate reason to move
          • The type of company the person will thrive in
          • Size, Role, Domain
      • Impact
        • A, B, or C player?
      • Main Criteria for Decision
        • Elements that NEED to be present for an offer acceptance
      • Salary expectations
        • What do you need?
    • Offers based on general assumptions
      • Everyone likes our benefits
        • Benefits & perks do NOT attract or retain people
      • Allow the individual to share what is important to them
        • Discuss expectations
          • What makes this important to you?
    • Offer Acceptance
      • Feedback
        • Engage in conversation about VALUE
        • Are they sharing with you “why” they would like to join?
      • Pacing
        • Pacing too soon, too slow
        • Only make an offer when there is obvious alignment
          • They tell you: what your company offers is what I desire from my career
      • Verbal acceptance
        • Discuss and agree on terms
        • Address anything that does not fit into desire
        • Start date
      • Formal written offer
        • Autograph
        • Start onboarding

    Key Takeaways -Value:

    • Gather information as soon as possible during the Discovery Call.
    • Based on your first conversation, tailor exactly what's going to attract that person into your company to the content they gave you at the Discovery Call.
    • Offer acceptance: make sure you pace it out, continuous feedback throughout the process, and get verbal acceptance first before you extend the written offer.

    Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.stridesearch.com/hire-power-radio
    • Authored: Healing Career Wounds (Amazon)
      https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094TL14CD/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
    • Startup - Intertru Inc: www.Intertru.ai
    • Technology: HireOS™

    Show Sponsor:

    • www.stridesearch.com

    Hiring Without Money with William Glass of Ostrich Sep 15, 2022
    Show notes

    How do you hire people when you have no money?

    While this may seem like an impossible task, the truth is that it is not as difficult as you might think. It starts by understanding what is important to the individual. Then connecting their desire your the value of your opportunity.

    Compensation comes in a lot of different forms and money is just one piece of the equation. Professional growth, challenging work, strong leadership, mission, purpose, mentorship, and equity are also forms of compensation.

    The most powerful form of compensation you can offer is the one thing that is REALLY important to the individual that you need to hire.

    William Glass is the Co-Founder & CEO of Ostrich, a financial habit-building app that uses community and social accountability to help people achieve their financial goals.

    In addition, William is the host of the Silicon Alley Podcast which focuses on telling entrepreneurs’ stories & learning from their experiences. His background is in software sales leading sales teams at Gartner and opening up a new vertical for an AI startup, Remesh.

    In 2014, Will was awarded a Fulbright scholarship through the U.S State Department where he taught English in rural Thailand. Glass has his B.A. in International Relations from Rollins College in Winter Park, FL. Will is originally from Alabama and now resides in Queens, New York.

    TODAY WE DISCUSS:

    • How to hire strong people without money
    • Outline steps to take to compensate with limited funds

    Challenge?

    • Not in the financial position to bring someone on full-time.
    • Almost outsourced everything during the pandemic but would’ve spent all of the little money we had.
    • Both wanted to work together but could not afford a salary
      • Set financial metrics
      • Funding challenge
    • Found someone through referral

    Why is this important to the company?

    • No other way to build the MVP

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Take your time
      • Really understand a person's desire
      • Does your opportunity fill that desire?

    Solution:

    • No code
      • Built using no-code and hacked along the first version of the app
      • Couldn’t do all of the key functions so sought a full-stack dev familiar with the no-code tool
    • Referral
      • Found developer through a referral on the no-code forum.
      • Brought them on to extend the no code version.
      • Liked working together, but after the no code tasks were completed no budget to bring on full-time.
      • Mission aligned and interested in working together.
      • Neither of us is in a financial position to pay a salary nor to not take a salary with 5 kids.
    • Created a unique way to solve both needs.
    • Agreed to bring Stephen our developer on full-time when we were in a position to do so.
    • In the interim:
    • Banking hours
      • Tracked hours worked as a contractor but rather than billing us, he banked them.
      • Those hours are paid back on a revenue share basis.
    • Equity vesting
      • Equity vesting began when the engagement began.
    • Revenue share
      • A small percentage of revenues goes to paying off the banked hours.
    • Triggering mechanism for salary
      • Once the company hit certain financial milestones, Stephen to come on board full-time.
    • Life changed
      • Altered the agreement before hitting financial metrics.

    Rick’s Nuggets:

    • Resourceful
      • Identify people you want to work with
      • Reach out and have conversations
    • Ooze Value

    Key Takeaways that the Audience can plug into their business today! (Value):

    • If there is alignment in mission & desire to work together, and you can find creative solutions that meet both the company's and individual’s needs.
    • Ask the tough questions
      • Only through strong communication were we able to determine the solution and it meant both parties sharing openly the financial situation.
    • Transparency
      • Transparent with the financials of the company, runway, and salary from the get-go.
      • Buffer model of transparent salary.

    Guest Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williampglass3/
    • Company: https://getostrich.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theostrichapp/
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/theostrichapp
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/williampglass
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theostrichapp
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theostrichapp/
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrPUxyTASwW71P5ahxD5VzQ

    Host Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.hirepowerradio.com
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEJm9RoCfu8y7AJpaxkxqQ
    • Authored: "Healing Career Wounds" https://amzn.to/3tGbtre
    • HireOS inquiry: rick@intretru.ai

    Show Sponsor:

    • www.stridesearch.com

    How to Hire a CMO with Matt Blumberg of Bolster Sep 08, 2022
    Show notes

    The reason why people think that hiring is “really hard” is because interviews are conducted without a defined set of criteria to which a person is being evaluated. This especially rings true when interviewing outside your personal competency level. Most often when hiring a CMO or CRO.

    In order for any interview to be effective, there has to be two components by which a person is being judged. Skills & Value Alignment.

    Focusing only on skills may solve your immediate problem but often creates more problems because the person disrupts your culture.

    What I have learned is that culture is driven by value alignment. So, understanding how a person aligns with your values in an interview is the most important criteria that needs to be evaluated to make a strong hire.

    Guest Bio:

    Matt Blumberg is a technology entrepreneur, business builder, and CEO of Bolster, an on-demand executive talent marketplace that helps accelerate companies’ growth by connecting them with experienced, highly vetted executives.

    Matt has been recognized as one of New York’s 100 most influential technology leaders by Business Insider, by Crain’s as one of New York’s Top Entrepreneurs, and by Ernst & Young as an Entrepreneur of the Year finalist.

    Before Bolster, Matt built businesses and worked in marketing, consulting, and venture capital. He is the author of Startup CEO, Startup CXO, and Startup Boards.

    TODAY WE DISCUSS:

    • The challenge of hiring a CMO
    • The playbook to hire a CMO

    HIRING STORY:

    • Over indexing on culture swinging to resume
    • Balance of cultural fit and competencies
      • Like dating…each one corrects the mistakes of the previous one
      • Over-indexing on culture - “nice” - leave replacement
      • Over-indexing on resume - “Vishnu” and “It/Out”

    PROBLEM: Challenge?

    • CMO at RP and Defense Against the Dark Arts
      • I had been a CMO
      • CMO is a hard role - expectations are all over the place, function has splintered (chart), marketing can become a dumping ground - french fry problem
      • Marketing to marketers
      • The myth of the playbook and Roth asking for headcount and budget - “plan to overspend and overdeliver”

    Why is this important to the company?

    • Disruption
    • Cost
    • Time

    Rick’s Nuggets

    • Positioning Problem
      • Desire your opportunity
      • A, B or C player

    SOLUTION: How do we solve the problem?

    The final playbook that worked for me for hiring CMOs - three “aha” moments

    • Marketing can quickly be consumed by the “French Fry problem”
      • Define the French Fry problem and marketing as a litany of tactics
      • Moving marketing from the tail to the nose - what’s the real role of marketing? Brand and Audience, so start with strategy and ROI
      • Making limited room for French Fries
      • Producing the ability for others in the organization to make their own French Fries
    • The realization that no one person can be the master of all channels
      • Build list of competencies (channels, etc.)
      • Build job roadmap to see how it evolves over time
      • Make sure all critical competencies are covered somehow
      • Focus on making sure the overall machine is optimized
    • The critical nature of building a Leadership pipeline to grow CMOs
      • Focus on making sure the leader is an intellectually curious orchestator
      • Leadership development at the next level down
      • Cross-training of all the channels and elements of the CMO role - orchestration, hiring/leading, ROI focus, customer service corner around French Fries
      • The machine becomes something where the CMO is at the pyramid on top, not holding up an inverted pyramid and hoping it doesn’t topple

    Rick’s Nuggets

    • Values driven interview
      • Do we operate from the same place?
      • Are you REALLY proactive, rebellious, curious?
    • Skills driven interview (working session)
      • Transferable skills
      • Growth
      • Details

    Key Takeaways that the Audience can plug into their business today! (Value):

    • Find that right balance between culture and values fit and technical competency
    • Help your people architect their own career as if it is a jungle gym and not a ladder
    • (a great way to retain people)

    Guest Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/blumbergmatt/
    • Company: https://bolster.com/
    • Resources: https://startupceo.com/ & Bolster.com
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bolstertalent/
    • Facebook: /BolsterTalent
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/bolstertalent
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/mattblumberg

    Host Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-girard-07722/
    • Company: https://www.stridesearch.com/
    • Podcast: https://www.hirepowerradio.com
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEJm9RoCfu8y7AJpaxkxqQ
    • Authored: "Healing Career Wounds" https://amzn.to/3tGbtre
    • HireOS inquiry: rick@stridesearch.com

    Show Sponsor:

    • www.stridesearch.com

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