Stay ConnectedHealers are often drawn to this work because of their own histories and emotional pain. the only way to thrive and avoid burnout while we help others heal is to do our own healing.
On this podcast, Annie Schuessler-Zam talks to all kinds of healers as they share vulnerable stories about pain, healing and growth.
You may have heard about these executive coaches who make hundreds or thousands of dollars an hour. I've been in rooms where therapists are kind of pissed off about how much money they're making.
They say: "Why are these executive coaches bringing in money hand over fist? It's not fair. Some of them don't even have the training I have!"
Could some small part of that reaction be envy? Just a little? And maybe a little bit of binary thinking?
This work over here is altruistic. That work over there is not. Hmmm.
Side note...I know for sure people have those thoughts about business coaches like me, because I've been in those rooms too. But that's for a different day.
I have been really curious about executive coaching. Here's what we tackle in this episode:
What's it like to be an executive coach?
Would you like it?
Could you do it?
How would you get started?
How would you get clients?
Our guest is helping us answer all of that.
Dr. Alyssa Adams is A psychologist, intuitive business coach, and executive coach.
Here's some of what we talked about:
Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/125
I recorded today's interview BEFORE the pandemic, so you're not gonna hear us talking about COVID 19.
And you might be thinking...um.... in-person retreats are impossible right now.
Yep. I realize that.
And still, I'm interested in helping you explore the possibilities for your business not just this month or next month or even just this year, but FAR into the future.
For everyone, and perhaps particularly for marginalized groups, IN PERSON events matter. In person connection matters.
If you're feeling that, listen to this interview and think about how in person events might fit into the future of your business.
Even before this pandemic,
I ran my entire business online. I love the freedom being online gives me. I love being able to reach folks all over the world. I get to create relationships with people and help them with their businesses, and it's FINE if we can never meet in person. The rebel therapists I work with are from many time zones.
AND I plan to do some in person work again in the future.
I ran a retreat last year with my dear friend Rebecca Wong. Bonding with Rebecca and the participants, sitting with them, actually hugging them, breathing the same air, it all added so much depth to the work. It's something we can't do at the moment.
I KNOW I'll do more in-person work in the future. That's why I'm talking to our guest today with you in mind, but also with me in mind.
This week, I'm talking to Nailah Blades Wylie, founder of Color Outside. She's a professional coach, consultant, retreat leader, and communications strategist. She runs retreats and in-person events for women of color. That's the part of her work we're focusing on today, so that you can get a master class in what makes an in-person retreat successful.
Here's some of what we talked about:
Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/124
I deal with a lot of anxiety. Sometimes people don't know that because I usually appear calm. And I tend to get a lot done. I cope with my anxiety BY getting things done.
But my anxiety isn't only helpful. It's also kind of nasty.
I have an inner critic that speaks up when I'm anxious, and I don't like that. It hurts. Still, me and anxiety are such old friends, and we've gotten so much done together. My productivity is fueled by my anxiety.
How am I gonna give that up? Who would I be without anxiety? would I get anything done?
The work of Nancy Jane Smith has really helped me step out of this binary way of thinking about my anxiety and my productivity.
When I recorded this interview, I had just finished her book The Happier Approach. It's been a couple months now, I'm still using her concepts regularly, and they're helping. In fact the pandemic classification and shelter in place happened after we recorded this. So anxiety much? Yes! I'm glad to have read this book.
I appreciate how she shares her OWN journey with anxiety in this interview.
You'll also hear a lot about how she developed her unique message about high functioning anxiety and is building her company around that unique message.
Here's some of what we talked about:
Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/123
How do you find your ideal business model? A business model is simply the different ways you make money. When you go beyond the therapy room, you've got SO many options. How do you decide the optimal combination of offerings for you?
Small group? Large group? Evergreen course? Workshop?
That's the question I wanted to delve into with my guest this week. Her answer is unique to her own superpowers and the needs of her clients, but listening to her process will help you think through your own answer.
Introducing Megan deBour, a financial wellness coach. Listen as we explore how she developed her current offerings, her take on growth, and what she had to work through in order to grow her own income.
Here's some of what we talked about:
Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/122
This week I'm talking to Janelle Allen, an online instructional designer turned marketing expert.
Janelle is a business rock star, but she's willing to talk about her inner resistance.
Inner resistance is HUGE for us as entrepreneurs.
I find this reassuring, because it's my truth. I'm dealing with my own growth edge in my business. I'm committed to reaching more people who need the kind of help I can offer.
That means reaching more visionary therapists and healers. Right now, that means I'm reaching out to a lot of podcast hosts and asking them if they'd like to have me on as a guest. I pretty much always feel like being a guest on a podcast, but I pretty much never feel like making that ask. Still, I'm doing it, week after week, because I decided to. It's worth working through my resistance. The obvious benefit is that I'm showing up on more podcasts. The side benefit is that as I follow through with this, my trust in myself grows. And as I trust myself more, and grow my capacity for discomfort, I'm a more resilient business owner.
As you listen to my conversation with Janelle, I want to encourage you to think about what inner resistance you're experiencing.
What is the hard thing you're avoiding?
What are you doing even though it's hard?
Here's some of what we talked about:
Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/121
This week I'm talking to Hillary Kinavey, co-founder of Be Nourished. They offer programs for people looking to reclaim Body Trust®. She's a leader in this movement, working from the principles of HAES and intuitive eating.
We've been talking a lot about the stages of a rebel business lately. I did a 2 part series, episodes 118 and 119, on the stages you go through from creating your pilot offer to actually thriving.
You're about to hear from someone who really values the long game. She and her co-founder, Dana Sturtevant, have always paid attention to the long game because Body Trust is something they care deeply about. They don't want to make money and then get out. They've been setting things up along the way in order to stay in this for several decades.
They've been building this for 15 years, and they're still looking way ahead, paying attention to where this movement is going and what kind of impact they want to have. They're also paying attention to how they need to take care of themselves so that they can stay in for the long haul.
As you're listening to this episode, think about what would sustain you in your business.
What kind of support do you need?
What kinds of people do you need to spend time with?
What kinds of self-care practices do you need to invest time and money in?
What do you need to say no to in order to say yes to what really matters to you?
Topics Discussed In This Episode:
Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/120
This is part 2, a continuation from the last episode. We're talking about the stages a Rebel Business goes through. Here are the stages as I think about them:
Create stage: this is where you create your business beyond the therapy room.
Grow stage: this is where your business starts making a real income.
Expand stage. this is where you really hit your stride.
Limitless Growth stage: this is where you grow your empire to 7 figures and beyond.
For each stage, I'll talk about the biggest internal change that can happen, what we most need to do and put in place during this stage, and what can go wrong. I'll also tell you what programs I've got to help you through the different stages.
Last time I talked about the first stage, which I call the CREATE stage. and today I'll take us through the rest.
If you haven't heard part 1 yet, you should go back right now and start there.
Shownotes at: https://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/119
One of my Rebel Therapist Masterminders mentioned recently that they like it that these episodes feature people at different stages of business. That got me to thinking. I've never really done an episode on the different stages and what gets folks from one stage to another. I realized I would have found an episode about that really helpful when I was going through the earlier stages, so I'm making it for you.
I'm gonna talk about what I know I needed and what I see my clients and colleagues needing in each of these stages. I'll give examples and refer you to Rebel Therapist episodes you might want to listen to about people going through each of these stages.
I'll use myself as an example, and I'll mention places where my journey could have gone better if I'd approached each stage differently and therefore made different choices. One of my biggest delights is when I can help you shorten your learning curve in creating your Rebel Business.
I'm using my own labels and parameters for these stages, and they may not fit with the labels you've heard before.
I'll talk about these stages:
Create stage: this is where you create your business beyond the therapy room.
Grow stage: this is where your business starts making a real income.
Expand stage. this is where you really hit your stride.
Limitless Growth stage: this is where you grow your empire to 7 figures and beyond.
for each stage, I'll talk about the biggest internal change that can happen, what we most need to do and put in place during this stage, and what can go wrong. I'll also tell you what programs I've got to help you through the different stages.
In this episode, part 1, we'll talk about the Create stage. Next time, in part 2, we'll cover the rest of the stages.
Show notes at https://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/118
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