Habits and Hustle - Jen Cohen

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Episode 505: Jefferson Fisher: How to Argue Less and Communicate Better Nov 25, 2025

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How is it possible to be confident in every other area of your life, but lose your footing the second a conversation gets difficult?

In this episode of Habits & Hustle, I sit down with Jefferson Fisher, a former trial lawyer, bestselling author, and one of the most respected communication voices online, to talk about how to argue less and actually connect more.

We talk about what intentional communication actually looks like in real life and why so many people slip into defensiveness instead of clarity. Jefferson breaks down the small but powerful adjustments that change everything in a hard conversation, from slowing your tone to asking questions that defuse tension instead of escalating it. He also explains why trying to "win" is the quickest way to damage trust, and how a calm, grounded "no" can communicate confidence without conflict.

If you often leave conversations feeling misunderstood or emotionally drained, this episode will feel like a reset. We go deeper into how to structure a discussion so no one spirals, how to navigate people with low emotional awareness, and how to keep your composure even when your instinct is to react fast.

Jefferson Fisher has helped millions of people communicate with more clarity and less conflict through his signature approach to calm, intentional dialogue. His first book, The Next Conversation, became a New York Times bestseller, and his content has reshaped how people navigate arguments, boundaries, and connection in everyday life.

What We Discuss:

(06:09) When what you said does not match what they heard
(09:17) Slowing your tone to calm the conversation
(13:58) "Nice" vs. "Kind" and why the difference matters
(21:14) How to say "no" without guilt or excuses
(27:26) Using frames to start hard conversations
(36:41) Handling people with low emotional intelligence
(51:57) Cutting weak language to sound more confident

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Find more from Jen:

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Episode 504: Shaun T.: Motivation, Confidence, and the Power of Fun in Fitness Nov 21, 2025

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How does a college dance teacher end up becoming one of the most recognized names in fitness? In this Fitness Friday episode, Shaun T joins me to share how he went from teaching hip-hop classes at Equinox to creating Hip Hop Abs, Insanity, and inspiring millions of people around the world.

We talk about what really keeps people motivated, why fun matters more than fear, and how confidence gets built one rep at a time. Shaun also opens up about his evolution, from being told he'd never hit like a pro to beating Serena Williams in doubles, and how therapy changed his mindset as a high achiever.

He shares what it was like to grow through the early days of Beachbody, how Hip Hop Abs was born, and why showing up fully as yourself is what creates real connection. For Shaun, being a gay Black man in the fitness space wasn't something to hide. It became his strength.

Shaun T is a fitness trainer, choreographer, and motivational speaker best known for programs like Insanity, T25, and Hip Hop Abs. He's also an advocate for mental health, self-belief, and authenticity in and out of the gym.

🎧 Shaun T on Motivation, Confidence, and the Power of Fun in Fitness

Tune in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1SXA4en800

What we discuss:

(00:35) How a tennis lesson turned into an obsession
(03:48) Building confidence by showing up, not being perfect
(05:19) Why therapy changed how Shaun sees success
(07:57) The story behind Hip Hop Abs and Insanity
(16:35) Representation, authenticity, and owning your story
(18:22) Finding motivation through fun instead of fear

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Website: https://www.shauntlife.com/

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Youtube: @shauntfitness

Episode 503: Anthony William: Heavy Metals, Brain Fog, and The Voice That Guides Him Nov 18, 2025

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Most people don't fail at getting healthy because they don't care. They fail because they're following the wrong advice.

In this episode, I sit down with Anthony William, the Medical Medium, to talk about why doing everything "right" can still leave you feeling like crap. We get into how stress, overtesting, and over-supplementing can backfire, and why simplicity beats every hack.

He shares how metals in the brain can fuel issues like OCD and ADHD, the five foods he swears by for detox and recovery, and why celery juice became more than just a trend. We also talk about what people get wrong about protein, clean eating, and chasing "optimization."

Whether you love him or question him, this conversation will make you stop and rethink what being healthy really means.

Anthony William is the founder of the global celery juice movement and a #1 New York Times best-selling author known for his Medical Medium book series. Since the age of four, he has said he receives health insights from what he calls the Spirit of Compassion, helping people improve their well-being through a more intuitive approach.

What we discuss:

(05:42) Why "healthy" habits might actually be keeping you sick
(13:10) The hidden downside of overtesting
(24:57) How the Medical Medium was trained by a voice since childhood
(28:45) The real reason you feel tired even when you "do everything right"
(44:02) How heavy metals in the brain may trigger OCD and ADHD symptoms
(1:11:59) The five foods Anthony swears by for real detox and recovery
(01:17:57) Why protein isn't the miracle nutrient you think it is
(01:23:39) The truth behind celery juice and why it became a global movement
(01:26:11) Why Anthony turned down Hollywood deals and the "health celebrity" circuit

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Find more from Jen:

Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/

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Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement

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Episode 502: Lance Armstrong on VO2 Max, Endurance Genetics, and Why Cycling Beat Running Nov 14, 2025

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Listen to the full episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLW8bwsE_zE

How does a kid who started as a swimmer become one of the greatest cyclists of all time? In this Fitness Friday episode, Lance Armstrong joins me to break down his journey from age-group swimming to professional triathlon to the Tour de France.

We also discuss Lance's current training philosophy, why he doesn't push himself like he used to, and the mental toughness required to come back from a 20% chance of survival to win championships. Plus, the surprising influence his single mother had on his never-quit mentality.

Lance Armstrong is a cancer survivor, former professional cyclist, and co-founder of Next Ventures. He won the Tour de France seven consecutive times. Today, he's a successful venture capitalist investing in health and wellness companies and has built a new life focused on family, business, and doing only what brings him joy.

What we discuss:

Transitioning from swimming to triathlon to cycling
Why cycling beat running for Lance
Discovering elite VO2 max at Cooper Clinic
What makes the Tour de France so brutal
How his mother shaped his never-quit mentality

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Find more from Lance Armstrong:

Website: https://www.nextventures.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lancearmstrong/?hl=en

Find more from Jen:

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Instagram: @therealjencohen

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Episode 501: Alejandra Maria Gallo: Dating Strategy, Emotional Regulation, and Taking Your Power Back Nov 11, 2025

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You can be successful, confident, and unstoppable in business: and still lose your edge when it comes to love.

In this episode of Habits & Hustle, I sit down with Alejandra Maria, a dating strategist and viral creator who helps ambitious women stop chasing and start leading with self-respect.

We talk about what it really means to have emotional discipline, the ability to pause before reacting, to stay calm instead of proving your worth, and to walk away instead of negotiating for respect. Alejandra breaks down how "no contact" can be a power move, not a game, and why emotional diversification is the secret to staying grounded when everything feels personal.

If you're the kind of woman who thrives under pressure but keeps losing your balance in relationships, this one's for you. We unpack how to bring the same clarity and control you have in business into your emotional life, without losing your softness or your power.

Alejandra Maria has built a global audience of nearly a million women with her unapologetic, emotionally intelligent take on modern dating. Her insights have been featured in Newsweek, Girlboss, and more. And she's redefining what it means to be "high value" in love and life.

What We Discuss:

(04:10) Why high-achieving women often lose power in love
(06:05) The difference between emotional discipline and emotional suppression
(08:42) "You can't outwork emotional chaos": bringing business mindset into dating
(12:30) How "no contact" became the most powerful boundary you can set
(18:20) Emotional diversification: spreading your energy beyond one relationship
(25:14) Why confidence isn't control, it's composure
(33:47) The signs you're over-functioning in relationships
(42:30) How to stop chasing and start being chosen
(51:12) The mindset shift from proving your worth to holding your power
(58:40) How to regulate emotions like you train your body: consistency over chaos

…and more!

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Find more from Jen:

Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/

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Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement

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Episode 500: From Broke to Billionaire: Stephen Cloobeck's $3.3B Mindset Nov 07, 2025

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Stephen Cloobeck didn't climb the ladder. He built his own. In this episode, we talk about what it really takes to grow a billion-dollar company without a business degree: and why integrity, discipline, and grit beat credentials every time.

We get into his biggest pivots, how mentorship shaped his success, and why EQ always outperforms IQ in business and life. Stephen also opens up about giving away over $63 million, calling out "wokeness as weakness," and what real leadership looks like when you're under pressure.

Stephen Cloobeck is the founder and former CEO of Diamond Resorts, which sold for $3.3 billion enterprise value. He's been on Undercover Boss more than anyone, donated millions, and still believes character is the ultimate ROI.

What We Discuss:

02:03 - Stephen's $63 million in philanthropic giving
04:02 - Undercover Boss episodes and giving away the most money
09:30 - Learning business from Mike Milken instead of business school
12:45 - Harvard Business School case study on his industry disruption
15:20 - Treating employees like family as competitive advantage

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Find more from Jen:

Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/

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Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books

Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement

Find more from Stephen Cloobeck:

Instagram: @stephenjcloobeck

Website: https://stephenjcloobeck.com/

Episode 499: Kim Perell: Building a $235M Company from the Kitchen Table + Why Perfectionism Kills Success Nov 04, 2025

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What if perfectionism is actually killing your success? In this Habits and Hustle episode, Kim Perell, a nine-time serial entrepreneur, joins me to share why waiting to feel ready is the biggest mistake aspiring business owners make.

We dive into Kim's morning routine, her partnership with Jay Shetty on Junie, and why exercise is her number one productivity tool. We also discuss why iteration beats innovation, and how she balances building multiple companies while raising four kids.

Kim Perell is a 9X founder, 2X bestselling author, and investor in 100+ companies. Kim is a dynamic TV personality on Entrepreneur Magazine's Elevator Pitch and regularly appears on Good Morning America, The Today Show, CNBC, Fox, and in Forbes, Inc., and The New York Times. Her book "Mistakes That Made Me A Millionaire" shares the unfiltered truth about the journey to success, proving that every mistake holds the potential for million-dollar lessons.

What We Discuss:

04:20 - The number one mistake: waiting to feel 100% ready before starting

05:09 - The Marine Corps 70% solution and how to apply it

06:56 - Why iteration beats innovation (and saves time)

07:21 - Co-founding Junie with Jay Shetty in a crowded beverage market

58:10 - Daily routine: waking at 6 AM, red light therapy, and meditation

59:28 - Running a household with four kids like a company

01:00:29 - Workout routine: HIIT, Peloton, and personal training at home

01:01:08 - Supplement stack: Momentous protein and creatine

01:03:00 - Why exercise is about mental health and focus, not competition

01:03:27 - Exercise as the number one longevity hack above all supplements

…and more!

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Find more from Jen:

Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/

Instagram: @therealjencohen

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Find more from Kim Perell:

Instagram: @kimperell

Website: https://kimperell.com/

Episode 498: Sahil Bloom: How Physical Wealth Unlocks Mental, Financial and Relationship Success Oct 31, 2025

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Listen to the full episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoiyKzb-rp4

Why does waking up at 5AM and working out transform losers into winners? In this Fitness Friday episode on the Habits and Hustle podcast, Sahil Bloom joins me to share how a simple 30-day fitness challenge saved a young man's life and why exercise is the "gateway drug" to success in every area of life.

We dive into the science behind walking's 60% boost to creative output and why confidence comes from doing hard things repeatedly. Plus, we share the anti-to-do list hack, the energy calendar method, and why "grazing on low-quality tasks" is killing your productivity.

Sahil Bloom is an author, investor and former college baseball player at Stanford dedicated to helping others live more fulfilling lives. He is the author of "The Five Types of Wealth," a framework that goes beyond money to prioritize physical health, relationships, mental wellbeing, and purpose.

What we discuss:

The inspiring story of a suicidal man who found power through 30 days of gym attendance
Walking increases creative output by 60% and improves relationship connection
How exercise breeds confidence
The anti-to-do list: what NOT to do each day for transformation
Energy calendar method: color-coding tasks to optimize your life
The loneliness tax of personal transformation and why it's worth paying

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Book: The 5 Types of Wealth

Find more from Jen:

Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/

Instagram: @therealjencohen

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Episode 497: Nick Thompson: How Running 100 Miles Taught Him to Run a $13 Billion Media Empire Oct 28, 2025

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How does a CEO who runs 100-mile races turn around a struggling media company? In this episode on the Habits and Hustle podcast, Nick Thompson, CEO of the Atlantic, joins me to share how the mental strategies that get you through mile 40 of a mountain race are the same ones that grow a publication from 800,000 to 1.35 million subscribers.

We dive into why daily practice beats talent in both running and business, and the dark side of elite running culture that creates eating disorders. We also discuss the Signal chat scandal that drove tens of thousands of new subscriptions.

Nick Thompson is the CEO of the Atlantic, which has grown profitable under his leadership after years of losses. He's also the American record holder in the 50K for runners 45+ and author of The Running Ground, a memoir exploring how running shapes life, business, and relationships.

What We Discuss:

03:14 - Why Nick started running at age 5 with his father during a family crisis

08:46 - How running is a microcosm for life and teaches grit through hard things

14:24 - The Alexander Technique: How a guitar wrist injury prevented 25 years of running injuries

28:16 - Why consistent daily practice is the most important lesson from running

50:04 - How Nick got faster in his 40s by training smarter with specific workouts

55:40 - How the Atlantic grew from 800K to 1.35M subscribers through paywall optimization

1:01:10 - The Signal chat scandal: How Jeff Goldberg was accidentally added to the White House group chat

1:12:10 - Trump's "fixed heartbeats" theory and whether ultra running shortens your lifespan

1:17:25 - The dark side of running: Why elite coaches tell athletes to look like "a skeleton with a condom on"

1:19:19 - How running culture creates eating disorders and destroys young athletes' bodies

…and more!

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Find more from Jen:

Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/

Instagram: @therealjencohen

Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books

Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement

Find more from Nick Thompson:

Instagram:@nxthompson

Website: https://www.nickthompson.com/

Episode 496: Dr. Michael Breus: The 4-7-8 Breathing Trick That Fixes Middle-of-the-Night Insomnia Oct 24, 2025

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Listen to the full episode: https://youtu.be/trGbcAqF2dA?si=qG5E_F-gP4x8qQhp

Why do you wake up at 3:30 AM and can't fall back asleep? In this Fitness Friday episode on the Habits and Hustle podcast, Michael Breus, the Sleep Doctor, says it's not your fault.

We unpack the science of why everyone wakes up between 1-3 AM, the shocking Alzheimer's connection to Benadryl, and why CBN (not CBD) is the cannabis compound that actually helps sleep. Plus: the truth about melatonin, why magnesium beats most sleep aids, and the supplement deficiencies sabotaging your rest.

Dr. Michael Breus is a clinical psychologist and one of only 168 psychologists in the world board-certified in sleep medicine. Known as "The Sleep Doctor," he's the author of five books including Sleep, Drink, Breathe and has treated celebrities from Carson Daly to Paris Hilton to DJ Steve Aoki.

What we discuss: