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    GREEN Organic Garden Podcast

    The GREEN Organic Garden Podcast will inspire, teach, and promote earth friendly techniques by interviewing organic gardeners who share their journeys, tips, and tricks to simplify the process of growing your own delicious healthy food. Whether you want to have a small bed in your backyard or a full grown farming operation, our guests will help you reach your gardening goals and offer you resources and solutions to everyday gardening challenges, and inspiration to dig down in the dirt and get growing!

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    Melissa K. Norris from Modern Homesteading and the Pioneering Today Podcast Nov 30, 2019
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    Melissa K. Norris from Modern Homesteading the Pioneering Today Podcast where everything is homegrown and homemade!The Family Garden Plan: Grow a Year's Worth of Sustainable and Healthy Food Gardeners are so excited to share what we have learned with others who are interested and I feel like that is what we get to do on garden podcasts! And I love podcasts!Want to read my Golden Seeds Shownotes? There's even two versions a long version that's the full transcript and a short version.I’m a 5th generation homestead and as a youngster I didn’t appreciate it. My dad lived through the Great Depression so if hey didn’t raise it they didn’t eat through the winter. I thought everyone grew up like that. With agardenpreserving foodraising beef cattleIt wasn’t until I hit high school really, I didn’t realize I was an anomaly. When my husband and I got married, I was working 40 hours a week and we started our family and I was trying to balance family, and growing our food and all of that, and it has been a 20 year journey to get here.I feel like my husband grew up in a similar situation on a cattle ranch, growing a lot of their own food, baking their own breads and cookies.I feel blessed now to have all that insight as an adult it has served me well, but as a teenager I didn’t really appreciate it. My husband and I got married, had kids and I was working as a pharm -tech. I loved the Little House books as a child, my mother instilled in me a deep love of reading. For us to have tv where we lived you had to go out in the snow and turn the antenna. So I read a lot.I wanted to write books, my lifelong dream was to write historical fiction. I was always writing about dutch oven cooking and barrel riding and all these things. I was at a writer’s conference and they said you had to have a platform with a blog etc. I was like what’s a blog?But I learned, we had dial-up internet. And I wrote this blog about things my heroine did that I was also doing. I thought well I cook in a dutch oven so I’ll share my favorite recipes and hopefully people who wanted to read that would read my books and I eventually got a literary agent, and wrote lots of manuscripts but none got accepted. But then the last publishing house said how would you like to write non-fiction, your blog is amazing. And I said YES! Yes, I will!We raise all of our own beefporkincreasing a gardenBoth of my first books I was doing all of this. Just 2 years ago I was able to “retire” and stay home to focus on writingpodcastinge-coursespioneering today Academy And of course raise our own food! Learning how to do all that while I was working was very Powerful!because so many people are working and want this lifestyle and aren’t able to leave their regular jobs and I was able to say, YES YOU CAN!This is what I didAnd how I can help you do it too!And you do! And you give away lots of free content, but then you also go way in-depth in your classes etc. Being able to feed our family and grow our own food.My new book, The Family Garden Plan: Grow a Year's Worth of Sustainable and Healthy Food often people see we raise fish, or hunt, and then grow 55-60% of our own fruits and vegetables. I have over 20 years doing it on my own plus another 18 years watching my parents. Get info at the FamilyGardenPlan.comI have always raised enough green beens and we always had our own beef.Those were easy for me to see and start with.If your goal is to raise a years worth of food my #1 best advice is you pick one thing, START WITH ONE THINGIf you want, you can do 1 fruit and 1 vegetable.This doesn’t mean you aren’t growing other things, but it means OK, this is the one thing I am going to grow enough of that we will eat FRESH through the growing season and enough to preserve it so we can eat it all the way through till we can harvest again next year!Green beans was one we do. They have been in our family for generations. Tomatoes are Very Versatile in the KitchenMaybe it’s tomatoes for you because tomatoes are very versatile in the kitchen. Once you have one vegetable down, where you feel it’s coming on kind of easy over the seasons you add the next vegetable or fruit. Maybe after a while you add 2-3 vegetables each year. You get confidence and it’s contagious and things go pretty well. And we all have those moments in August where we’re pulling our hair out and saying why did I do this to myself? But then when you see on the shelf “I don’t have to buy that again this year” you will feel so empowered. But if you try it all at once the first season you will get overwhelmed and be like this is way too much to do!So my best advice is build it slowly once block at a time.Where are you located?We are located smack dab in the middle of the mountains between Seattle and the Pacific Ocean. I’m technically Zone 7 but usually our last frost is about May first mid may, a lot of times we have aour first frost mid September. So basically the end of May through mid September.We have a relatively shorter growing season. Still a bit longer then us in Montana.How do you get fish? I was watching the video of your in your pantry. My husband works at a mill, and we get fresh caught salmon as a bonus, so I love smoked salmon. We live an hour from the coast so we also have ea little boat and we catch our limit of crab each year with our 6 crab pots too.Picking Varieties For your ClimateIt’s a good thing in fall and winter months to make a list of things that did really well and things that didn’t.Do a FALL AUDITThis is what I am gonna do again, this needs fixed. If you don’t take notes at the end of summer you are going to forget, you think you wont’ but you will.Especially as you go from fall into winter and you are planninggetting seedsdecide what to plant next yeartake note of crops that were cut short.This is what happened to us with some new heirloom tomatoes I wanted to try. It’s good to try varieties because you never know when you will find a beloved favorite but I always struggle with tomatoes here in the Pacific NW. As a matter of fact I have to grow all my tomatoes in a high tunnel or unheated greenhouse. It’s basically an old carport we covered in plastic.But these tomatoes are more heat loving. They were good for sandwiches and slicing but for sauces etc. Melissa recommends a paste tomato" "I tried someone varieties and usually always do an heirloom San Marzano Lungo No. 2 number to which is an heirloom paste tomato Paste Tomatoes. Especially if you're looking for that whole year saying and preserving them!"If you are going to preserve tomatoes for the year, the majority of your space be paste tomatoes that you can use for pizza saucetomato saucepasta sauceketchupPaste tomatoes are fleshiermore flavorfuldon’t have as much waterso they cut down your time simmering and overall preserving process.Look for varieties in your area. The DAY TO HARVEST is so important. Varieties you want to save will be ones thatproduced fastestforms blooms the earliestdisease feee and of course most prolificEventually you will get the most perfect plant for your UNIQUE Microclimate!It is a REALLY BIG DEAL if your variety needs 120 days versus only 90 days because that means you can harvest for a month instead of just a week. The most important thing you can do is RESEARCH SEEDS that are best suited to your climate and garden!Do you use paste tomatoes for SALSA?YES! There are lots of different paste tomatoes. You don’t want salsa that’s watery and soupy.When picking varieties you want to think:How am I gonna use this thorough the year.Sometimes you’re just so excited about canning and a new recipe but over year, our tastes change and often you find you won’t put up as much jam and jelly as when kids are young. So I would write down this is what we had for dinner, this is how much produce we used? Maybe just do it for a week, and then multiply by 4 for a month and then x 12 for a year. To get an idea.How many plants do I need if I use 4 cups a month?Melissa has a free chart you can download from her website and the book is filled with charts. Lots of charts tell what vegetables will produce but Melissa’s book includes how many berries and asparagus and perennials you will want as well. A big take away is that it’s different for EVERY single family. When picking varieties and ordering seeds, for example cucumbers. We love garlic dill pickles. So I like a cucumber, a Chicago cucumber, it stays firm, is good with yogurt dips etc but also for pickles so I call it a dual-purpose cucumber.If you pre-order the The Family Garden Plan: Grow a Year's Worth of Sustainable and Healthy Food you get all these bonuses including the Amendment guide! I think the amendment guide is worth gold. Do you want to talk about soil health?If you pre-order, it hits shelves January 7th at Barnes and Noble etc but if you pre-order you get access to worksheets an bonus items, video packages, including the companion planting and crop rotation courses.Melissa states that those 2 things alone, companion planting and crop rotation were big enough topics when she was first learning they overwhelmed her. Trying to figure out how to do it in a backyard garden and not on a big agricultural farm.It’s all that I needed and what I use in an usable easy-done format. It’s what I implemented and the charts we used.Soil Amendment Guideis all natural standpoint. You can find a lot of things online that are synthetic, but this is an easy organic natural method for a small garden.They had their soil tested. They found out that the ph level was off from around 12 years of growing. After having a lot of troubles blossom end rot etc did a test for the 12 macro and micro nutrients in the soil and after a ton of research on what to do if soil is high or low and how to fix soil health back in harmony so you can growthe biggest vegetables and harvest the best yields of produce you can get from nutritious soil.I know you have been doing this a long time and it’s working as you feed your family.Getting to the Root of ThingsWhich activity is your least favorite activity to do in the garden?I don’t love to weed, it can be therapeutic but my favorite things are to plant, harvest, just stroll in the morning and enjoy. Weeding, not so much.What is your favorite activity to do in the garden?Pruning.I love to prune. It increases the health of your plantsit gives a larger yield.What is the best gardening advice you have ever received?Crop RotationSoil HealthWe were growing our broccoli, first time, with brassicas and I had this close friend and mentor and she taught me how to prune blueberries…she said:Don’t plant brassicas in the same place for 3 years!Do you have any advice for squirrels and critters?The most effective thing we have found time and time again is a barrier. We have deer, elk, and birds that get our fruit trees and perennials.So I put netting on blueberries and fencing around fruit trees and then on some of the garden row cover especially to keep cabbage moths out of crops.How big is your place?People assume you have to have a big space. But depending on the size of your family and how much you eat of a particular item really makes a difference. We have 14.96 acres, but only grow on one acre, the rest is woods and pasture for the animals. The house and yard are on one acre, less than 1/2 is the orchard and berries. There’s a 20’ x 10’ covered high tunnel where there are 18-20 tomato paste plans and a 10 foot row of hot peppers. And then the regular garden beds of annual vegetables that are about 56’ wide by 20 foot long.Plants that grow vertically. There is a cement patio with grill and ag rape arbor that provides shade as well as grapes, but is only 2 plants on each side so takes up little space. There are herbs in containers spread out through the landscape. Blueberries are with rhubarb so Melissa only has to amend one bed as they both like a more acid ph level in the soil. There’s also an asparagus bed. So less than half an acre in produce. Melissa says she wants it close to the house and water sources for summer irrigation. That way there is no time wasted going back and forth helps with productivity. A favorite tool that you like to use? If you had to move and could only take one tool with you what would it be.Heirloom seeds - green beans - that have been in her family for generations.A favorite recipe you like to cook from the garden?Almost everything Melissa cooks comes from their garden but her husband’s grandmother’s pumpkin roll is a seasonal favorite right now. Made from sugar pie pumpkins. Or a pumpkin savory soup. A favorite internet resource?Lately doing so much research for the book, from scientific sources, extension offices have some of the best information for SAFETY especially when preserving and gardening working with food. A favorite reading material-book, mag, blog/website etc you can recommend?I do really like as far as magazines go. I do like The New Pioneer Magazine and also Mother Earth News which I'm sure most people are super familiar with, but I feel like they have good solid stuff that's always right up my alley as a gardener and a homesteader resources when I'm surfing on the internet.I like to look at Mother Earth News when I’m doing research. Then what do you think about the Magnolia Journal? Chip and Joanna Gaines newest adventure? Final question- if there was one change you would like to see to create a greener world what would it be? For example is there a charity or organization your passionate about or a project you would like to see put into action. What do you feel is the most crucial issue facing our planet in regards to the environment either in your local area or on a national or global scale?You know really I was so what it boils down to for me as I really feel like we would see the biggest change in our world as of every single family and every single household grew at least one item of their own food!And then they cooked with that because I feel like if everybody could see even in an apartment you can grow your own basil on a windowsill in water you don't even need to have dirt! I have a blog post on that, I didn’t mean that got be a plug.Often times people say well, not everyone can do that, if you live in the city or you live in an urban environment or everything.For goodness sakes you can grow sprouts in a mason jar in 3 days!I feel like if every single family and every single household grew at least one thing that they would notice the flavor difference!Then if you're growing something you're going to use it to cook from scratch with it or you're going to add it to a dish and you're going to notice that the flavor change like oh my goodness like this tastes better!Especially when you get kids involved! When my kids grow a vegetable if it's something we purchase in a store before their like, I don't like that I don't want to try that!The Family Garden Plan: Grow a Year's Worth of Sustainable and Healthy Food This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Spotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/

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    Constructive Holiday Climate Conversations with Sarah Harding Whitefish, MT Nov 30, 2019
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    Read my this issue of the Golden Seeds Newsletter here.GoldenSeedsIssue15SarahHardingCompassionateConversationsAboutClimateSarah Harding from Coconut at Sea Soap Co.Friday, November 22, 2019I’m super excited and last time she shared a ton of golden seeds with listeners and she’s kind of changed directions so here she’s here to tell us about her new venture the Coconut at Sea Soap Company.We grew up in North County San Diego. We spent our childhood lives loving the ocean and surfing.We moved to Montana when we were 22 and spent the second half of our lives farming, fishing, and raising a family.Now we're Coconut at Sea Soap Company.A family business committed to giving our all in everything we do. We make soap because we want to save the planetWe love the ocean. We love the mountains.Seeing plastic clogging up our reefs and blowing across farm fields broke our hearts.So we decided to reduce single-use plastics. Bar soap and shampoo bars are an easy switch toward our goal of plastic-free showers.And we know gardeners are always getting dirty! Welcome Sarah McPhearson, Sarah Harding?McPhearson is my maiden name.You're in Whitefish where I got a job this year and I feel so excited about this because this week we are talking about saving the animals in Wonders McGraw-Hill we’re reading Kids to the Rescue about saving turtles and manatees. And we did a puppet show called the Turtle Mishap about a turtle who get’s stuck in a plastic six pack holder. Tell us a little about yourself.It’s kind of a long story. When I last talked to you, we were farming full mite growing asparagus, microgreens, cut flowers, it just got the word I think of most is relentlessRelentlessElizabeth Gilbert when she talks about jobs, that every job has a poop sandwich and you have to be willing to eat the poop sandwich that comes along with that job. And we just we got tired of the poop sandwich that came with farming. The relentless with it, we were growing microgreens year round, and how we never got a break and how we never got to spend quality chunks of time with our kidssold our microgramsleased the asparagus field outI still do cut flowers, because after all they’re beautiful!And then I kind of flopped around for a few years. And we were on a family vacation, with my husband and his two brothers, and we were on vacation in Indonesia and we would pull up to this amazing island!on a boatdreamywhite sandlittle spit in the middle of the indian oceanwith coconut palmsjust heaven!And we would get off the boat and swim into the shore and it was covered in plastic! Plastic of every thing you can imagine! and it was heartbreaking I mean it just broke my heart and I got back on the boat and I was talking to my sister-in-law and she was like butwhat can we do?I saidWe can do betterWe can use less plastic!We might not be able to save Indonesia because we’re not Indonesianand soap making this was a skill I already had so I saidI’ll make shampoo barsFor some reason shampoo bottles on the forefront of my mind, I think maybe I saw one in Indonesia. So I did, I came home and John suggested I make some soaps that visitors to Montana would like.We came up withblack bargrizzly barshampoo bar, just for myself and maybe some of my crunchy friends.I called it Mother’s Nature’s Shampoo BarI made it sort of as a joke because that’s what my mother calls me sometimes, Mother NatureI put one of those jokey things on the label but then people got excited about it!The shampoo bar, I’m actually trying to make other scents and then really trying to figure out how to make an all natural conditioner without using basically chemicals because the shampoo bar we make is all naturaloilsessential oilsrosemary extractand then it’s saponified into this beautiful lathery hard bar that lasts a long time, but works really well.So where does the coconut come in? Is it made of coconut butter? Or is it because your story was inspired by the coconut palm trees?Kind of all 3.it does have coconut oil in itit was in a tropical place that I was inspired to start the companymany years ago when I was in a my 20s, a friend told me I was like a coconut drifting at seaI think it wasn’t a compliment like I was unrooted and just drifting, floating where the sea took me, but since then I’ve taken it as a complement, because that’s kind of what coconuts do, they get put out sea, they float around, land on an island, sprout into a palm, make more coconuts that float out to see…So I am kind of trying to reframe it as spreading the good! I am so fascinated in this because I am so curious about the whole coconut craze, so many people are into coconut oil, what is the footprint on coconut since they don’t grow in Montana, but what did I grow up on, olive oil from Italy they don’t grow in Montana and then also my new favorite is avocado oil, which also doesn’t grow in Montana and then is the coconut actually the seed?yeah! exactly, it sprouts into a palm, the the coconut is the seed and it sprouts a coconut.But I just asked my friend Dacia who’s been making soap for years up here, you walk into her house and it smells so good, but just the other day i asked her do you make a shampoo?I love your labels, and they are labeled with a bear.It’s kind of a double meaning from my dad used to sing me Davy Crocket song“Raised in the woods so he knew ev'ry treeKilt him a bar when he was only three”basicallyI love how your so honest about the poop sandwich part of farming. I’m also excited because Patti Armbrister is so big on growing cover crops seeds, because they are like flowers. I was dreaming about growing sunflowers for bird seed but I have a feeling you have to be growing on big acreage for that to be profitable. And Elizabeth Gilbert talks a lot about not putting that pressure on your creativity. I have read Big Magica bunch it’s one of the books I have read over and over and actually have on Audible to listen to.I wanted to be able to farming and gardening again didn’t feel so much pressureshe does talk about thatAnother part of my journey is accepting the way I amfarming was my dream for a pretty long time, working toward farming or farming for a long time. Accepting that I am not the kind of person who sticks with one thing, because our society puts a lot of pressure on people.I can totally agree.yeah! it’s ok, that we’re multi passionate, that we have a lot of different interest for 62 years or jobs and bringing skills form the pastinnovativecreative in our new jobsbig piece of my own personal workok that I’ve had 62 different jobsflakeyflightyI feel like being in 3rd grade this year, that being all those years in pre-k, kindergarten, first grade, Just looking at like I was working on my website and I'm like wow cuz they're so interested in somebody I brought in this typewriter this all the typewriter for one of my students corners and iPads and the other corners and like they're all and they're like if we could just only have an old typewriter! which are super expensive !that is so awesome!!I love that technology sitting right there with youWhat we can do with this go to Google Docs login and I spend so much time logging in and we're switching Centers before they ever get to type more than like one word I mean the third graders have got to learn it like I'm hoping by the end of the semester like it's finally starting to click in the you know some things like pages worth of documents this week so we're 12 weeks in the school but they've been struggling really hard just to get logged in like it is not the easiest thing, and our iPads are so old we can’t go to Google Drive that's how old they are Google Classroom we can access they can access Google docs so anyway but yeah I was so cute that they were like my old typewriter and they're all jealous cuz I only really was letting like one kid at a time to really tyoung for it might be some used ones out there for like a new Portable typewriter is like $175 was like the cheapest one I could find out I was like holy cow!That's really seems backwardsWe’re totally off topic here, so tell us about whatever you want to talk about.Well here's what's interesting about my new company is that I don't actually spend much of my time like selling soap ~ which is really fun because I don’t know that I would actually be that good at you know …selling soap!What I've been spending my time on is writing articles forMontana Woman Magazine, I gave a talk at a plastics symposium, a presentation that on Plastics and what we can do is consumers and how are the most important thing that we can be doing right now istalking about it and having these like really potentially uncomfortable conversations with our friends and family!Because you know there's this is climate crises happening and people aren't talking about it and so we're all just in the keep calm and carry on phase of this emergency !and we need to be panicking a little bit more right now because I love all of this and that’s how we are talking right now because you shared your article on Facebook and I was like Sarah you have to come back on the show and talk about this!and that one was really that one takes my rights I'm so curious So I was researching you know like watching TED talks and reading books and I went to a workshop and you know I just was feeling really confident and really prepared like oh my gosh I can write this article and it's going to be educational and inspiring and informative!And then I went to kind of like a family reunion and eightieth birthday party for my uncle and my another family member totally cornered me and confronted me and was using all of these anti-climate talking points and I did not use any of the things that I had learned and I just like literally froze and turned red and like I couldn't get any words out of my mouthand was like stammering like trying to clear up the 8-year know the world's not going to end in 8 years that's when you know the time that the ipcc you're notso I was very ineffective! But it taught me like this is not as easy as you were about to make its out in this article!This is actually a really difficult thing that you're asking people to do!Then of course I went back and I did more research on listening and empathy and how to have a discussion and you know what TED talks on debates and you know the differences between liberal views and conservative views and our values and I really just dug a lot deeper.Then at my really article changed, it became much more about listening and feeling empathy and connecting on a personal level with that person rather than just talking to them as if I was talking in the mirror to somebody who already believed exactly like I do.So I think it turned out a lot better because I got my but kicked!I'm so glad we’re doing this, I hope I can get it out before next weekend with Thanksgiving coming up I think this is so important because we're all super passionate about it! Tat's what I love about my audience that I love about my podcast but yeah you get out in the world specially where I live like and that's what I wasn't sure about the school that I went you because you don't wear in a very diverse Community wear like a lot of my kids parents work in the oil rig site at least two families do you know Dad's gone much of the month of the timer over in North Dakota working on the oil fields and this week we're talking aboutI'm like well you know the article is all about apoquel spell and I'm like and besides that you guys realize every time you pick up at 5 take for core plastic spoon that's made out of I was saying you know I was cut my six-pack holders up but I was like I hardly ever by six-pack holders but yeah I know but I was glad to hear you said and just you know what I think Forward Thinking Progressive Progressive should be you know environmentalist type of community but I know also like Ryan Zinke came from there and he practically destroyed our EPA who is our Congressman right hardcore Republican choicesThe fact that climate change has become a partisan issue just really makes me feel kind of sick because it's like oil companies got a hold of it and started an anti climate campaign to make more money!That is really a big last question that all of us face I'm changing the subject but I like how we make our livings you know like is how we make our living connects help the earth or hurt the earth and for me there's no question that's that's why I'm you not rich is because most of the professions that make a lot of money on fortunately our wreck doing a lot of damage to our planet! Ethically, there’s no question that I could never do.My husband talks about that a that a lot ~ he's always saying all the jobs I had that brought in a ton of money like as a logger as he used to work in the oil rigs in Colorado back when he was a pup, just planting trees and then are growing my garden you know and I'm trying to like you don't make a living sustainably has always been about so that's part of why he has the dream of building a concrete house or whatever it isI’m glad that you're talking to your kids in your classes about Plastics!in about an hour just even the fact that they didn't know that plastic was made from petroleum is just now that opens their eyes and now they're seeing what everything that's made of plastic maybe hoping I'm hoping that they'll see that they have a choice to use less plasticI'm glad we're in a building that recycles and it's very conscious you see a lot of kids like that they're bringing like snacking grocery sack so you know their parents are using them and just stuck also think like there's a huge like you know this is what I love about podcasting and I know there's so much about Mark Zuckerberg but I love about Facebook is like connecting with Robin Kelson and Laura Behenna other people in the FlatheadI wish I could go to those climate-smart meetings like I just feel like there's there's more conversation the most places in the country and I'm glad to see that these Solutions are coming up!Yeah Robin Kelson is my hero she is so amazing she just has been so supportive of me and my business and she's just doing so much good work!Tell listeners where they can order it online!Yes I learned how to build a website.Wait you were going to tell us some tips for like how we can have those conversations!The number one thing I we interrupt you before we get to where they get yourself toilet like right yeah well then said something about empathy and listening but like you have any extra steps of what to do when somebody starts spouting like false what's the fake newsStep One BREATHEThe number one thing that I'd wish I'd done was breathed like I'm pretty sure I didn't breathe for like 15 minutes they're literally just focusing on my like deep call me back to let my brain know that I'm not in spider flight that this is not actually physically dangerous to me and that I can calm down and then might higher motor functions will start working again and I'll be able to find words!Step Two: LISTENThen listen like really listen to try to get curious about not in like a snarky way level where'd you hear that but kind of like really honestly like where did you where did you learn that? How can I find out more? Like tell me more about what this is that you believe and connecting with them and really listening?I mean the goal would be that by showing respect for them and their viewpoint you maybe at some point you would get a chance to be able to tell your storyStep Three: Know Your Climate STORYThat brings me to the other point of you need to be able t…

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    Food is Free Tacoma | Interview 282 with David Thompson | Building Community Through Food Nov 24, 2019
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    The biggest question I’ve gotten this year again. Is what do I do for my earth friendly landscape and what do I do with all these dandelions? But I was at someone’s place the other day, I could just tell right off the bat, looking down, you don’t have very healthy soil, so I suggested planting some clover, and then also IDK if they have a bag for their lawnmower so when they mow they might be spreading those seeds, where if they put them in the compost pile it would be better. I think… Anyway…

    It’s Thursday May 30, 2019. I’m feeling a little mic shy as I haven’t been on my mic for almost a month!

    David Thompson from Food Is Free Tacoma is here to share his journey.

    Tell us a little about yourself.

    I’m a navy veteran, 35 year mechanic, and I am retired. Wht I do is I have a free table and everything I grow in my garden I give away.

    Tell us a little bit more, how did you get started with this? Did you just say one day I want to put a table in front of your house?

    I saw food is free project on Facebook, it was about veterans and giving away our extras to your neighbors.

    I started with a small garden about 700 sq feet and now it’s 4000

    tried to give it to family

    kids

    I tried a table where the food is free and started from there its grown into quite the little non-profit.

    I like the way it started with Facebook.

    I have my FB page

    food is free

    Started a new project called gardens for the people

    Parkway gardens throughout the city of tacoma for people to share their food directly between the sidewalk and the curb. Hoping to do 10 of those this year.

    I love that idea, because where my mom lives there’s all these places just like that are covered in these little yellow flags and that’s where you’re talking about growing the ood?

    We ammend the soil and remove the sod with local compost and plant straight into the ground.

    I love this idea!

    Tell me about your first gardening experience?

    I used to watch Crockets victory garden, I used to dream about having a garden but it wasn’t till I got older got this house with a small garden

    10 years now.

    I made a lot of mistakes, vertical gardening, I tried a lot of different things before.

    Tell us about something that grew well this year.

    my cabbages

    grew really well

    tomatoes didn’t do too bad last year either?

    I think we had a cool summer last year. That really helped the cabbage a lot.

    Did that help with the tomatoes? Do you put them in a greenhouse, they don’t like the cold do they?

    Yes, that’s true. The only thing I grow in the greenhouse is peppers.

    Is there something you would do different next year or want to try/new?

    I’m kind of busy with the Food is Free project but next year I would like to try aquaponics.

    And what’s making you think about that?

    Well, I have this friend in Wyoming whos into hydroponics and he’s grown a lot of stuff there, and it’s just an interesting way to combine fish and food in an urban environment.

    I know my listeners are interested in that as those episodes get downloaded a lot.

    Tell me about something that didn’t work so well this season.

    tire gardens

    I tried tires with tomatoes one year, I got alot of bugs and stuff inside the tomatoes.

    Which activity is your least favorite activity to do in the garden?

    weeding, I’d say weeding, it’s not one of my favorites, but it has to be done.

    I can relate that today, I went to the garden for the first time in a week, and I can’t believe what’s coming up and mike did warn me that I should cover the fresh weeded beds with mulch of straw and I didn’t it seems like the weeds are just coming up like crazy this May!

    What is your favorite activity to do in the garden.

    transplant

    fun instant garden

    I totally agree! And I’m pretty excited because I planted a bunch of zinnias that are just about ready to go in the ground.

    What is the best gardening advice you have ever received?

    stay organic. I’ve learned to build my soil, because I’m challenged on money I’ve learned to be frugal so I do whatever i can for free

    What are some secrets you’ve learned?

    woodchips

    When I first started out I had raised beds

    wood chips in walkways made soft loamy soil. Eventually the wood rotted out. What I learned is the soil where the wood chips were was a whole loat better then in my raided beds it was a soft loamy soil.

    Where’d you get the wood cips.

    The local power company – have to trim trees for the power lines so they will deliver them to your house for free!

    Tacoma is a pretty big suburban area right?

    Yes, we have about 100,000 people

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    Have you had any problems with getting neighbors on board? What have been the challenges that way?

    They are excited about it, when you tell them it’s about growing food. I go out and get them started in a vegetable garden and they tend themselves and then share the harvest.

    Hopefully everyone gets involved, we see them around town now with these free little pantries.

    Ohhh kind of like the little libraries popping up all over. I love them!

    What I do is I ask them what kind of vegetables they like. If we can grow them in this climate we help them grow so they can feed themselves.

    What the process is, I ask for volunteers that want to tend the garden

    So we get out there and plant a garden for them,

    supply all plants

    seeds

    and all they have to do is weed it and water it from then on.

    Where do you get the seeds and plants?

    plants get donated from local community gardens that have too many starts

    local farm

    donations of seeds

    Didn’t I read that it started from some health issues?

    I’m a cancer survivor

    started from the necessity of having to give the food away because I have too much of it.

    I can relate to that, I feel like Mike and I have too much of, but I find it is stuff like too much swiss chard or kale that people don’t want or maybe we don’t have enough extra. I’m about at the point where I don’t have to buy much produce from August through November. I think this is a great solution! I love how you are teaching people to garden themselves. You’re not having any problem with people saying I don’t want food in my front yard.

    The city is really excited about it and behind it all the way. They;ve been very supportive.

    Right you’re giving free food to local neighborhood, and they get to participate even if it’s just watching it grow but sometimes they even pick tomatoes or things. Kids have access to locally grown food.

    A favorite tool that you like to use? If you had to move and could only take one tool with you what would it be.

    Broadfork

    A favorite recipe you like to cook from the garden?

    cherry trees

    plum tree

    home brew I make wine and beer and cider

    I grow hops for my beer

    I dpn’t have a grape vineyard, a lot of times people have grapes growing at their house and they on’t have anything to do with them, so through the years I just pick up grapes from friends and neighbors.

    A favorite internet resource?

    harvest first

    They are our local food organization, they sponsor farms and local events.

    A favorite reading material-book, mag, blog/website etc you can recommend?

    MarketGardenerBookThe Market Gardener: A Successful Grower’s Handbook for Small-Scale Organic Farming by JM Fortier

    If you have a business to you have any advice for our listeners about how to sell extra produce or get started in the industry?

    YEah! IT’s really easy to get started, all you have to do is put up a little table in front of your house and I put a sandwich board and put out in front of your house and an old table. Put it out, you’ll meet your neighbors, great way to build community.

    Final question –

    If there was one change you would like to see to create a greener world what would it be? For example is there a charity or organization your passionate about or a project you would like to see put into action.

    What do you feel is the most crucial issue facing our planet in regards to the environment either in your local area or on a national or global scale?

    food security

    A lot of times people don’t even know where their food comes from anymore, we have become disconnected, by knowing where you food is and participating in it and growing it yourself. You can take control food security and have a little bit of power in that and say in what you are eating.

    I think we need to go back to small agriculture.

    What does that look like, can you explain to listeners?

    I would love to see victory gardens again. I think it was a great trend. For people to get a say in their food security!

    Do you have an inspiration tip or quote to help motivate our listeners to reach into that dirt and start their own garden?

    It’s really simple to do, if you are here in teht acoma area I could come by if you have problems,

    Grow something simple

    • tomatoes are pretty simple
    • green beans

    give it a try and see how it goes!

    Mikes aboot to plant our greenbeans, he’s been digging up the minifarm with the broadfork, I think he said he was gonna try to get them inthe ground today May 30, 2019

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    foodisfree253.com

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    Health Coach Sarah Clark | Host of the Get Pregnant Naturally Podcast | Author of Fabulously Fertile Nov 18, 2019
    Show notes

    Interview 289 with Health Coach Sarah Clark | Author of Fabulously Fertile + Host of Get Pregnant Naturally Podcast

    https://fabfertile.com/

    Thursday May 2, 2019

    I have another podcaster on the line we are going to talk about eating healthy today. The Get Pregnant Naturally Podcast.

    Thanks for being on the show today. This is something that touches me personally, because Mike and I never had kids. I always tell people if I would have had my iPod touch when I was trying to get pregnant I’m sure we would have had kids. But anyway tech has come so far so I’m glad you have some solutions for people!

    Tell people about your podcast and business.

    I help couples who are struggling with infertility. I had my own struggle I was diagnosed with premature ovarian failure at the age of 28 and that is the loss of function of the ovaries before the age of 40.

    For me I had these weird health systems

    • cycles were irregular
    • urinary tract infections
    • acne in early 20s
    • cycles were irregular

    I got married at 25 kids at 28 my cycles were still irregular so I went to my OBGYN and that’s when I was diagnosed with premature ovarian failure. I remember her reaching up for the packet to the IBF clinic and off I went.

    Basically being told that my only option was to have donor eggs. I never looked back to any of the health systems I was dealing with.

    So I went straight to the clinic and got a list and I got a donor egg and had my daughter. She is 17! So this is the back in the day you say donor eggs and people are like IDK what you are talking about.

    Now with western lifestyle people are having effects.

    I was wanting to have kids close together, I was super stressed, I went in and those embryos failed. On the second list with another donor I was lucky enough to have my son will fresh transfer he’s 14.

    After that my health took a nosedive, after I had my daughter, I took antibiotics for every sinus infections. I ended up

    • gut
    • vertigo
    • toenail infections
    • dandruff
    • chronic bladder infections
    • peeing blood
    • yeast infections
    • sinus infections just wouldn’t go away

    I was in HR at the time, I wanting to bring life coaching into the corporate environment. I took a life coaching course.

    Health and wellness

    That’s where I discovered I had these food sensitivities

    • I found out I was intolerant to diary and gluten
    • low and behold by making lifestyle changes
    • bladder infections went away
    • sinus infections
    • skin became clear
    • stool test a little while after that, so then I healed the gut

    For me, I didn’t discover this to be 40

    if you are cycling naturally for me food and diet are the key to everything.

    I love to hear that, my show is all about growing healthy food, I am more the organic eater and we have that in common because it sounds like we were saying in the prechat your husband is more the gardener too.

    for our couples that we coach

    elimination diet

    Take out top allergens

    • dairy
    • gluten
    • corn
    • soy
    • peanuts and
    • eggs

    Take them out for 10 days.

    you can do anything for ten days then you systematically introduce them. You don’t go out and have a pizza.

    then this is the important part, this is the gold standard to see how food impacts their body.

    First you bring in corn which

    part of the body

    corn can flare up the asthma

    talk about a lot on your podcast, it’s the most GMO and sprayed with glyphosate. A lot of people have issues with corn.

    Can we back up a minute, People complain about corn, people don’t realize corn syrup is in like everything

    Over 60-70% are tolerant to dairy.

    high fructose is in everything, I have found corn starch in orange juice. What is it doing there? It’s a filler.

    I think dairy and gluten are becoming a lot more mainstream but still even in my circles of people, maybe not as much, I did a whole rack of people who were doing KETO.

    I was talking to a lot of people and the amount of people doing KETO there was the paleo crazy and now KETO.

    Keto can be right for some people so we do the elimination diet

    feel dairy

    feel sinus

    feel fleghmy

    digestive issues

    impacts its digestion

    • gas
    • burping
    • mood
    • adhd
    • depression
    • anxiety
    • stiff joints
    • arthritis
    • acne
    • eczema
    • rosacea
    • dermatitis
    • auto immune
    • function thyroid
    • thyroid dysfunction

    The food piece is huge because we are in the middle of this experiment

    we recommend everyone going organic because we are in the middle of this food experiment as we use glyphosate on everything

    herbicides and pesticides

    impacting

    it used to be 60-40% impacting fertility and now it’s 50%50%

    What about all these other symptoms.

    Look at all the other diagnosis and symptoms were all facing. I’m hearing all sorts of symptoms it affects other people.

    a lot of times

    • this infertility diagnosis
    • premature
    • especially with unexplained infertility

    People usually look at food last but it should be what are you placing on your fork everyday

    if you have a food sensitivity

    hormonal birth control

    a lot of people were on the pill for years which can impacts gut health. You can eat this beautiful diet and if you are not absorbing it effectively.

    food sensitivities

    gut infections

    work with people

    looks at DNA in stool

    the majority of people are coming back with gut infections multiple parasites

    yeast infections again it’s the health of the gut

    what predisposed you, was it the environmental toxins, was it the pill, high use of antibiotics?

    I was peeing blood and then I changed my diet and made these lifestyle changes as well

    food is the most important thing to start with the elimination diet to see how food impacts your body so you will know exactly. Sometimes we think we have this digestive issue or

    skin issue or we’re just an irritable person

    When we take this food out we take the inflammation out of our body and start o feel improvements. that’s causing how it’s impacting us

    Didn’t I hear on an episode of your show that or a blog post that walks you through how todo the elimination diet step by step.

    Totally. It released the middle of may

    how and why to do the elimination diet we go through the exact steps.

    We recommend going 100% organic during this time

    I’m sure you maybe talked about this what the dirty dozen. If it’s cost prohibitive that at least the foods from the Environmental working group, I think strawberries there were over 75 pesticides on strawberries. Click here for the clean 15. Never get conventionally grown strawberries their like grown with so many pesticides.

    I did talk about the dirty dozen and the next ones are like spinach and kale. I found that at school at the salad bar I would pick strawberries almost every day. Especially I wills and there in the store for like ten minutes going back and forth, I should buy these their healthy fruit and I never eat fruit, and then I’m like I shouldn’t buy these because they are wrapped in plastic.

    My husband always says I should wash them with vinegar I think.

    tap water

    It’s not about perfection

    typically

    filled have water that is

    chlorine floride

    Berkley

    water filter

    tastes awesome

    why do I feel so parched?

    I have interviewed a few doctors, I think the challenge I have is the food is not being absorbed well. I need to figure out my gut health. Yesterday I was talking to this fitness coach, and I was telling him I always conk out at mile 10, and he was saying if I just learn what my body needs, and to eat something every 20 minutes while I’m training, a fitness bar, gatorade, gel pack or what.

    I have never ever thought when running a marathon that it would be my nutrition I always thought it was just not training enough running far enough etc. So the value of nutrition is just great because he told me that would make all the difference.

    I have 2 more quick quesitons. Your in canada? In toronto. You get local food all year long.

    Cucumbers

    tomatoes

    I guess they are importing some of the oranges

    apples

    broccoli

    cauliflower

    dry and wash your produce

    30-40k

    organic box delivered weekly

    farms in your local area

    customize the box

    surprise to what I get

    organic food

    greenhouses

    may 2nd

    cucumbers tomatoes

    kale

    importing from oranges

    imported

    broccoli

    cauliflower

    bananas

    most of the stuff s we get into the growing season

    micro greens

    cilantro

    basil

    basil plant will come in the box

    exciting

    I’m glad you said you get a box, a lot of my listeners might be interested in filling your box! A lot of my listeners are interested in growing for market. We are focused on the same things for the same reasons, I love to eat organic food and veggies all the time. I love our fruit like our raspberries. I do find fruit is messy, but that’s my weirdness. I like to hear about those things. Even if they have extra produce. If I go out of my way to share this, kale is one of them, I think it’s #2 or #3 on that list of dirty dozen an I think it grows well.

    i also get a local meat box

    it’s your health if your health is impacted

    preventative

    people with fertility

    diagnosis

    straight to the fertility clinic

    60k dollars

    elimination diet

    lifestyle changes

    going on in our body

    some people

    go that way

    if you can’t conceive

    food is a really good place to start

    foundational pillars

    sleep

    movement

    environmental toxins

    plastics

    IDK I have them I literally feel

    disease

    tools of functional medicine

    broader

    catching it before it goes

    blood canisters review

    and so a lot of times we find out there’s a gut infection going on with the man

    hight sensitivity to gluten

    non-celiac

    equally as important

    doesn’t want to procreate

    highly sensitive to gluten

    cross reactors

    avoid oats

    even gluten free oats

    risk of contamination

    body is having a reaction to that

    they can be intolerant to dairy

    cross reactor

    protein

    intolerant

    lactose intolerant

    Kevin

    take out dairy and gluten

    highly sensitive to

    sandwich with bread

    crumbs can cause inflammation

    weeks to months to reset itself

    food sensitivity thing to look into

    switch everything to organic

    eliminations diet

    allows you to see your body reacts to food

    xyz that i had on Friday

    never really know

    skin issues

    acne

    food that we had there

    come to us

    have an intolerance to eggs

    infertility

    more intolerant to the whites to eggs

    food sensitivity test

    leap MRT

    foods and chemicals

    foods...


    Tad Hussey ~ Keep It Simple Farm and KiS Organics Cannabis Cultivation & Science Podcast Nov 15, 2019
    Show notes

    Read the text version of my interview here: Golden Seeds Issue 13 Tad Hussey

    My interview with Tara Caton At the Rodale Institute Hemp Botanist

    I’m curious how you found out about me.

    Haha, IDK? Well, one I’m always looking for guests! But I did just release for Earth Day April 22, 2019, this interview with Tara Caton from the Rodale institute last week and since then I have been online researching hemp and cannabis and I am just flabbergasted at what has changed because when I started my podcast in 2015, I couldn’t find someone to come on my show and talk about hemp or cannabis for 4/20 day.

    The other thing is I have always dreamed of being a sunflower farmer, and originally I thought I would sell sunflowers to florists, but then I thought bird seed would suit me better but this last winter, I thought I would like to grow sunflower sprouts after I was going crazy looking for fresh greens and my step-daughter gave me some and I was so excited, after the romaine recall. My husband planted so much kale and swiss chard etc last year for me, I didn’t have to buy any greens from August to November!

    Wow, I can tell you’re a plant enthusiast.

    Well, I’m a sunflower and hemp enthusiast!

    It’s Thursday, April 17, 2019! Earth Day is coming up on Monday! I have another podcaster on the line. His business is KiS Organics. Welcome Tad Hussey!

    I know we’re gonna learn a lot!

    Are you in Oregon, Washington? Somewhere by the Pacific Coast?

    I am in the North West. About 20 minutes east of Seattle in Redmond, Washington.

    Tell us a little about yourself.

    Sure so, I’m 41 years old, I grew up with father actually both my parents running a commercial nursery and landscape business here on 7 acres in Redmond. So, I grew up around plants, but wasn’t that into them. I kind of moved away from it but after college I came back with a masters degree in another field and I had trouble finding work in that field I really enjoyed.

    So I ended up coming into my parents business which was all about compost tea at that point so I ended up learning all about:

    • compost tea
    • microbes and
    • gardening

    from that we sort of expanded we got the property where they originally had the landscape country.

    This was about 2011. This was sort of the time of victory gardens and backyard chickens. Nurseries were sort of failing so we knew we didn’t want to do that.

    So we started this thing:

    KIS Farm

    Keep It Simple Farm

    It started out as a feed store.

    I knew there were no feed stores in Redmond, I wanted a place to have feed cause I was getting into backyard gardens and wanted chickens.

    All these people started coming in who wanted:

    • horse feed
    • dog food

    and all these other things. So we expanded that into an edible nursery. We had all these unique

    edibles but we found out people in our area didn’t care. So we shaved that down to your classic favorites you find at a lot of other places.

    There’s also an educational trial on the property that is focused on teaching about native habitat and salmon spanning. We get a lot of boy scout and girl scout troops through there.

    There’s an outdoor preschool on the property that meets 5 days a week a lot of fun.

    So the kids are out there running around in the woods learning about the outdoors which is a lot of fun and on top of all this we also have:

    • chickens
    • pigs
    • goats

    free ranging on the property.

    We also grow vegetables!

    We have a you pick, a large green house an 85 foot greenhouse and also a pumpkin patch. Every year we plant that out and so people can stop by and buy organic produce on their way home from the store or home from work. That’s sort of what KiS Farm is all about, focused on education and community support and helping gardeners and growers learn how to sustainably organically.

    We also have KiS organics which is an online garden store provider

    offering a variety of soil amendments as well as soils that we have created that we have created specifically for growing high value crops like cannabis and tomatoes. We work with a lot of the legal market here and as far away as Puerto Rico.

    Essentially what it is, is this whole idea of living soils this concept that we try to create living ecology in our containers with our media or in raised beds, indoor or outdoor, as a way of allowing the microbes and all the things I’m sure people have talked about on your podcast to really control the growing process so we’re not perpetually throwing out our soil every cycle each year and have to start over every years and learning how to amend that soil to build and grow each year.

    In between episodes today, I was listening to your talk with Jeff Lowenfels, who wrote Teaming With Microbes and Teaming with Nutrients: The Organic Gardener’s Guide to Optimizing Plant Nutrition, etc it was interesting to hear you talk to him. I was supposed to interview him but he wanted me to wait till I had read his books. One of the things I really loved about your site is you seem really natural.

    And Jeff’s newest book:

    DIY Autoflowering Cannabis: An Easy Way to Grow Your Own

    Yeah, I never grew up without organic gardening, it’s something my parents have been doing since I was little. My dad did the chemical thing as a landscaper back in the early 80 late 70s but moved away from it for health reasons after he learned about the dangers from it.

    So organics is all I’ve ever grown. It’s funny when you mention cannabis, because when I was growing up I was always really anti-cannabis. It wasn’t until I started this compost tea business, or my parents started and I was in my early 30s. Idk really know anything about cannabis and I would get these phone calls from growers and they would say things like:

    “I want to use your compost tea and I have 40 tomato plants under artificial lights, and I started looking into it and realizing this is a huge industry and these people don’t know what they’re doing in regards to compost tea.There’s all these myths around that subject and I started writing on these forums and communicating and really trying to get all this information out there.

    I thought I should try this and wanted to try growing it and learning about it and I went into this hydroponic shop and I was blown away!

    I’d only been into nurseries and I had never seen this wide selection products!

    My first reaction was I can’t wait to try this on vegetables! I can’t wait to try this on tomatoes!

    Cannabis is this special plant and we need all these special nutrients and a lot of that is just marketing! As my knowledge grew over the years I realized that all those products if you start reading the ingredients are just the same stuff with a 1000% markup of what you will find in your garden center store or you can make yourself!

    From that I realized this market that needed education because it’s been underground for so long that a lot of growers all they could do is they could talk to their buddy who could talk to their buddy, who could talk to the hydro!

    There was no access to information like there is now.

    That’s why I started my podcast which is called the cannabis cultivation and science to try to bridge that gap between the organic gardeners and the horticulture world.

    That’s what I love to hear and that’s what I keep telling my husband, this is a very specialized skill and there is going to be a lot of people interested.

    Well, I think anyone can grow cannabis if they are interested. I think it is a specialized plant for medicinal properties. But it really does want to grow, it’s called weed for a reason. If you can grow a good tomato or a good pepper you can grow a good cannabis plant.

    There are a few things are different. Most cannabis plants with the exception of auto flowers, are photogenic, as in they need a certain amount of light (lack of light- dark cycle). It’s pretty straight forward. You’ve probably grown 1000 of tomatoes, so you would probably be really successful at it!

    Well, my listeners know, that technically I’m not the gardener, I’ve grown some cherry tomato plants. My husband is more the gardener and I’m the organic eater. I do like to grow sunflowers and I did grow lettuce for my guinea pig.

    But as I was just saying, yes it might grow like a weed, but if you are growing it for the flower that people are going to want to smoke, you are not going to want seeds in there, there’s that whole part, there’s the light thing like you were saying, and then there are the regulations again, if you want to have enough product to last a year, I mean it depends on your situation.

    I guess my point would be I would say it’s the same growing principals for someone growing tomatoes as for growing cannabis as for growing for the soil really learn the plant. There are unique challenges to grow cannabis.

    Here in Washington as one of the first states to go legal, we would have a bunch of underground growers who come in and say, I have been growing 30 plants in my basement for 20 years. and grew using this line of nutrients and suddenly they are in this opportunity to be a million dollar grower as a master grower and they didn’t realize it doesn’t scale that way

    1000 plants

    skill set

    gardener and a farmer

    a lot of people failed and lost a lot of money here in these markets or they are struggling to maintain because the cost of production is way too high so that’s what I am seeing here.

    I think that is along the same lines, not even up to 1000 plants. My husband always says you couldn’t really grow it here in Montana, because you wouldn’t et the daylight, you wouldn’t get that 12 hour light period during the season. Like my dream is to grow unlimited amounts and people because they were growing to get the most potent in their basement, I think there should be big varieties and what are they putting in things, they say emergency rooms visits are up because people don’t know how to eat their edibles and keep overdosing.

    What I love about your site is growing it in dirt and growing it naturally. People are doing things in those small spaces, who knows whats in their pot.

    I think there is this assumption because cannabis is this groovy pat, it’s a bunch of hippies listening to reggae. There’s a lot of people who were doing a lot of bad things back when it was in the black market.

    One issue we see is people using things like a bud hardener and there are lot of people using things that are illegal for use with edible crops it raises their weight of various yields, using things not approved for use on edible crops. The effects if it is combusted vs eaten you know through your lungs versus through your stomach.

    Personally I wouldn’t let friends just go to a recreational pot shot here in Washington and buy anything, I tell them which growers are producing safe product so your not risking anything by

    taking it and I think it’s another consideration a lot of people should grow it on their own.

    and go to your website where they can learn how to grow it naturally!

    I think fertilizing and soil testing responsibly in a way that is more affordable! I know when I first started out gardening I would go to the store and I would buy the cheapest potting soil I cold find and then go to the fertilizer department and find a bag with a photo of a tomato on it.

    in my experience

    for me my suggestion is invest in your soil

    best soil you can build using the best local inputs you can find and do a soil test and potentially a water test

    We are finding a lot of people don’t have a commercial water supply

    finding things

    people’s water

    lot more sense

    customize their nutrient program for their garden. How much nitrogen is very different if you are growing lettuce and corn is different for sunflower

    The right source the right products to maintain

    $25 for the one we recommend

    logan labs

    There are ones you can do at home but are not quite as accurate, but here in Washington state there are 4-5 free soil tests they will do for you.

    I was going to say, the water testing. We have 2 wells on our property, the first one is a shallow well about 19 feet deep and then a few years ago we started using the deep well that’s 560’ And he’s been using the shallow well always and now the cloner is clogging up and we wonder fi that’s from the new well.

    One thing to consider your soil could be over calcium and then it could change your nutrients could be high in bicarbonates. There’s so many variables, getting it to someone who can interpret that information and a lot of

    times there’s local extension agents or services.

    There’s something that was brought to my attention by his book the Intelligent Gardener

    Steve Solomon it’s a concept from 189-

    William Albect a concept of crop nutrition

    The idea that we can get the minerals and soils balanced to certain levels

    healthier for us to eat

    Steve talks about in his book he has some very anecdotal stories and they are quite powerful

    check it out that and

    Teaming With Microbes

    Everyone who asks me where I should start

    organic is great!

    he could care less about being organic what he cares about is that his food is nutrient dense. It’s much more important

    the minerals are in the soil chemical or organic source

    tomato

    has all these properties

    how is it going to get high in iron sulfur nutrient attributed to it if it is not in our soil.

    Which is a really good point if they are not in our crop they not going to be in our bodies

    may not be enough

    balance the soil

    can do this organically

    getting a soil test

    right level of these trace levels of macronutrients.

    In Montana, I asked the guy from the extension office is going to come on in May, once I get the results back from the extension then he can help me.

    Yes that is going to get you going in the right direction

    not the end all of the quality of your soil


    Native Landscape Design | Prairie Nursery | Interview 288 with Neil Diboll | Westfield WI Nov 03, 2019
    Show notes

    GoldenSeeds#12.NeilDiboll.Prairie

    The Golden Seeds aren’t perfect but it’s a start. I like to read them in PDF format better what about you?

    Neil Diboll, President of Prairie Nursery, Inc.

    On the Web:

    www.prairienursery.com

    www.facebook.com/prairienursery

    1-800-476-9453 (1-800-GRO-WILD)

    We would love to help you with anything and even help you find some seeds or plants that would grow!

    Gardens are focused on needs desires of humans only life gardening for all farms plants

    • animals
    • critters
    • bugs

    sustainable ecosystem on people’s properties native plants. The real importance of native plants is that they

    have co-evolved with other linked to one

    brought to another

    long periods f coevolution support very few of other invertebrates adaptation foundation of the food change limited value ecology

    what resource was important

    doug

    bringing nature home

    more valuable

    the other thing to get the chemicals out of the environment

    native plants are great because 1 you don’t have to fertilize

    and you don’t have all the maintenance associated with it and opposed to a lawn you don’t have all the petrol chemicals and

    gasoline building it or running the equipment.

    steal plastic

    most important

    if I don’t see holes in the leaves of my plants. I’m a failure as a gardener

    encourage my plants to be eaten

    insects are eating them and insects are eating the birds so I have an ecosystem in my yard.

    I mean birds eating the insects.

    You are creating a food chain, creating a food web, in your garden. So we are no longer just gardening for human interests and human returns gardening for all forms of life sharing

    revolutionary concept for gardening.

    Tell us about your very first gardening experience?

    I started out in first grade with my first garden. Our class was raising money for some endeavor by selling garden seeds for ten cents a packet, door to door to neighbors. I decided that if I was going to sell people a product, I should at least try it myself. The garden was a miserable failure due to terrible soil conditions, and I suspended my gardening efforts for ten years.

    I learned to garden organically at age 16 when I decided to try vegetable gardening again in the same backyard. This time I double dug the future garden two spade lengths deep in the fall, and filled the hole with the leaves we raked up in our yard. The hole consumed all the leaves without hardly denting the chasm. I then collected leaves from the gutters on my block, and filled the hole with one foot of leaves, covered by an inch or two of clay, until I had a three foot tall “mass grave,” as my extremely skeptical parents referred to it. A giant mound in the backyard. By spring, it had settled down to about 18 inches in height, and I planted my garden.

    It was a spectacular success, producing an abundance of vegetables and greens, and I was suddenly a genius gardener!

    Used that garden for years ~ even after I went to college my parents used it for years.

    I love that! It’s like you built your own deep beds right there. Like what people talk about today building deep beds no till style. Tell us about your amazing CV that talks about all these things.

    I went into business in 1982! Why did I go into business? Well, for a number of different reasons.

    I worked for the US. Forest Service in Colorado and the University of Wi where I live now. But there was limited employment for 6 months. and I just wasn’t a public sector person, there was a lot of bureaucracy. Then when the recession of 1981-82 hit.

    When you can’t find a job, what do you do? You create your own

    I created a backyard garden

    retiring at age 68

    old farmhouse

    outside of greenery

    ok if we use that land if we rent the house

    can I buy your plants and move your nursery

    why don’t you just come down and run it

    where the hell is Westfield

    bought a cheap old trailer.

    2 neighbors building garden in their backyard.

    We were the talk of the town

    little did they know we had girlfriends

    but we let them talk. It was a barebones existence because in 1982 native plants were still weeds. We couldn’t give it away! My friends said hey, plant

    day lilies

    iris

    I was like this is the future! I’m not giving this up! The problem was the future hadn’t caught up. We kept at it.

    I was like I went to college for this?

    first color catalog

    sales doubled

    interesting journey

    tough rows to hoe

    ahead of the curb

    things came

    There’s very good reasons why native plants make sense. It’s the four Es I call them.

    esthetics

    first trees and shrubs

    flowers grasses and shrubs

    use the environment

    don’t need all these chemicals

    don’t have to use all these pesticides fungicides or gasoline for growing lawns!

    You have deep rooted plants that increase water infiltration into the ground. Instead of that running off you have amuch more closed loop system

    also have strips if you do have areas where fertilizers are applied native grasses with deep roots you have fertilized water running into them it can filter out that chemicals

    3 energy

    use a lot less energy then a lawn

    nice beautiful prairie

    burn it every other year

    not spending a lot of time and energy

    4th e is economics

    It can save you a lot of money on time and maintenance.

    The 5th E is an emotional connection to the

    planting prairie

    psychologically

    So Neil do you want to give us some tips if you want to go this. I find the biggest barrier is where to start, find information, like that day lillie and irises are not native plants.

    The first thing to do if you are just getting started with native plants is to avail yourself of all this resources on the internet

    Most states have a native plant societies you will meet people who are into native plants but if you don’t want to be involve

    Illinois wildflowers also have trees and shrubs

    Another called the prairie ecologist which is an individual who puts out phenomenal information on prairies

    You can get your own wildflower book

    nature preserves

    learn the plants on your own way! I took a botany in college where you get the basics but the best is to spend the time out in nature where you see them in action. With pollinators and butterflies on them.

    On our website there is tons of info. We have lots of woodland parts that are midwestern but people who live in different part of the country they have completely different plants from us

    you wouldn’t want to use our stuff in AZ

    cal

    grow in the high mountains

    so the rest

    find what the best plants are start with the university

    I was gonna say your website because you share tons of information.

    www.prairienursery.com

    Do you want to talk about pollinators?

    Of course, pollinators are extremely important!

    33% of the food we eat as human beings require pollination so we have a vested interest in supporting habitat for pollinoators.

    largest producer of cranberries

    drain marshes

    plant cranberries in them

    good pollinator populations

    weeks of

    strips of prairies that will be available

    vested intersted

    The whole food chain is dependent upon insects!

    We have had a long standing relationships co-evolution

    native flora and native fauna

    interesting

    most plants use chemical warfare to ward off insects that would eat their leaves. So pants have adapted to

    distasteful

    overcome toxins we use

    classic example the monarch butterfly that eats the toxic weeds of the milkweed family

    relationships

    native insects

    native plants

    nonnative plants

    Very rarely do you have the depths of the relationships of the other critters that utilize

    It’s not there.

    Nonnative plants do not supply food or sustenance

    do not support

    native plants are so important!

    relationship and native plants and between native plants and pollinators.

    The best books you can read is called:

    bringing nature home

    entomologist

    university of nature

    close relationships between native plants and

    really explaining why native plants is so important!

    I always tell listeners always leave a 5star review for that book so everyone can read it and I just read from AJ that he planted a pollinator border and when I went to the Brooklyn Grange one of the best parts was the pollinator border. IT’s so pretty it goes around their farm and full of snap dragons, and zinnias and cosmos and tons of herbs and lavender etc!

    You know it’s interesting the organic gardener can take this to the next level!

    Beyond

    pollinators

    pollination vegetables

    you also have bio control mechanisms

    supported by native plants

    There’s a plant called the rattlesnake master

    yuca-folium but it’s actually a carrot humble and this plant is pollinated primarily by wasps. A lot of people would say don’t plant, but theses are a very high percentage are parasitic wasps

    what do they do? very small

    relationships

    There is a parasitic wasp that attacks just about every other:

    • insect
    • spider
    • tic
    • mite

    creator that flies around in the air

    parasitic wasp

    rattle

    I think the people are one of the few plants around here that grow outside our deer fence that I think attract a wasp.

    But here’s what’s so cool, I had a customer who

    tomato horn worms every year on his

    1/4 pound

    had rattlesnake master and it takes 3 years for the perennial seeds to mature and begin blooming. He called me and said I have no tomato horn worms what’s going on.

    I said do you have rattlesnake master? Is it blooming? He said, yeah’ it’s doing great!

    Well rattle snake master attacks the tomato horn worm from the inside out. It burrows in and eat it from the inside out and kill.

    He say’s my prairie is my insecticide

    maintaining the balance

    That’s what they are doing with the rooftop garden For years people have known all about this but it’s a new concept for people that you can use non chemical.

    Well lots of people ask about this on my show or in my Facebook group. I have had people talk about this, but not in such specific detail about attacking tomato hornworms, I do think people will say where do I get Rattlesnake master?

    you don’t want to focus on one plant

    core on our landscaping is biodiversity What we are trying to do is spread the diversity of our native plants

    diverse area of different flowers

    grasses

    shrubs

    trees

    you are now setting stage t make space to support all these different creatures that make life

    native shrubs

    more native grasses

    more beneficial

    you will have a wide away of critters nature that allows you to maintain a balance naturally

    Everyone knows when you spray you are killing good guys and bad guys

    I tell customers get rid of that stuff right away, take them to a disposable site. We know they kill the good guys!

    Here’s the revolutionary part.

    in my native garden

    if I don’t see holes in the leaves of my plants

    fairlure

    people only

    our own benefit and enjoyment

    biodiversity

    restoration

    creating habitat

    creating sanctuary for all sorts of life

    if I am not feeding the insects in the

    complete failure as an ecological gardener. I want to see the holes

    plants because I know then if I am feeding my neighborhood.

    That’s interesting because last year I...


    Replay of interview 291. Industrial Hemp Project | Rodale Institute | Senior Lab Technician | Tara Caton Oct 14, 2019
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    Tara Caton

    Rodale Institute

    Senior Lab Technician

    Industrial Hemp Project Lead

    It all started when this listener said, every time I hear you say millennial I think of this video of this guy bashing millennials sitting around in their yoga pants and so I made my own video of the amazing millennials I interview who are so not ever lazy. I was going through some old Organic Gardening Magazines. A lot of my listeners are asking me how to get rid of pests organically and there were all these letters to the editors saying I’m not ever reading to you again because you are too political and they answered back and said we believe they are integrated and you can’t have one without the other.

    I have always wanted to sell ad space for Rodale’s so I would see Organic Gardening Magazine in every store i went to as I traveled around.

    It is Tuesday March 26, 2019. I am so stoked because not only is my guest a rock star millennial but she is the Senior Lab Technician at the Rodale Institute on the Industrial Hemp Project . So welcome Tara Caton!

    Over the course of a four-year trial, we are exploring hemp’s powerful potential to heal soil and support farmers.

    Hemp, marijuana’s non-psychotropic cousin, was grown in Pennsylvania for more than 260 years as a valuable cash crop.

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    PotForPot.com | Interview #293 with Josh Jacob Mezher ~ Rockstar Millennial Oct 14, 2019
    Show notes

    I’m so excited! On Tuesday I talked to Tara at the Rodale Institute and she got me so excited about all the things going on in the Hemp World. I’m so excited to introduce Josh Mezher from A Pot For Pot.

    If you want to read the Golden Seeds just click here.

    Are you a Rockstar Millennial born between 1980 and 1995?

    I was born in 1986

    Awesome! I’m writing a book about the rockstar millennials I interview on my show!

    Tell us a little about yourself.

    Been in the cannabis industry for about a decade now. I moved from the UK to go to school at the USC Santa cruz.

    I moved here at a great time where you could legally grow your own cannabis at home and walk down the street and take it to a medical dispensary.

    I actually dropped out of school

    hobbies

    I always loved gardening and it’s an amazing plant to grow!

    I love all of this! Tell me about your first gardening experience? Did you say you grew up in the UK?

    My mom is actually a California and she is actually a fanatical gardener. As a young kid I was always trudging around vegetable patch.

    digging up the garden

    underrated species

    I give full credit to my mom, for everything she taught me, I have applied that

    • vegetables
    • flowers
    • more utilitarian based plants!

    I love that answer! I am not sure I express enough on my show that what makes the rockstar millennials so amazing it’s because of their awesome parents! Of course my husband is a parent to 2 rockstar millennials!

    How did you learn how to garden organically or do you want to talk about what’s going on?

    i didn’t start

    hydroponic side of it

    focus on the product

    It’ funny the evolution of cannabis cultivation is really going

    traditionally this plant has been grown in small spaces inside houses.

    A lot of people are not aware of, is how much cannabis does the U.S. produce? and who produces it?

    now they get marketed PR

    impressions

    there are these huge cannabis

    predominately

    11k tons grown annual

    low end estimate

    largest cannabis farms

    barely hitting

    one to five tons in production

    hundreds of thousands of people who are growing this in their garden

    larger scale

    smaller scale

    plant that is spread throughout the country and doesn’t get a whole lot of recognition

    Out of the house and out of the cupboard!

    This plant has so much to offer. I can’t believe I see adds for Hemp Levis and Hemp Overalls. I can not believe the growth in this industry in just a year, stuff that wasn’t there a year ago.

    its cool

    look at the cannabis plant

    • indica

    • sativa

    • rooterallis

    • auto flowering

    original plant

    archeology

    humans

    domestified

    started agriculture

    really good reason

    forget about the drug side

    mind altering affect

    put that to the side

    have a plant that almost naturally grows rope.

    branch

    twist

    you could throw

    secondly it gives seeds that are so nutritional

    hemp and cannabis and how healthy it is for humans to consume

    other aspect

    mind altering

    My husband is pointing to all this research that humans are not getting a lot of our nutritional value because we used to get a lot of it from animals that we eat but they are not getting it in their grain so it is not passing on to humans. … People always tell me that hemp protein is good for me, and I can’t afford to buy it and why can’t my husband grow it for me?

    medical effect

    often draw the parallel of Michael Pollan’s book

    evolved us

    cannabinoid system

    designed to work in the home growers club

    I don’t agree with a lot of laws around cannabis cultivation

    In Nevada, you can’t grow cannabis at home if you are within 25 miles of a dispensary. Even in California you are not allowed recreational without a card.

    I would like to see people grow their tomatoes, next to their cbd pot, thc pot growing next to it

    I mean who grows the most tomatoes in the US?

    IDK marijuana growers?

    No home gardeners…

    I would say that I think there has to be a certain amount of regulation because people are going to the emergency room for overdosing on al these edibles they don’t know what they are doing and I would also say it’s not the easiest plant to grow.

    I would beg to differ ~ It’s called weed for a reason and it’s also called pot for a reason because it’s always been grown in a pot I have a whole blog on that

    What we have tried to do is to create the right conditions

    having great soil

    plant in the right soil it should grow

    it’s all in the soil!

    Our goal is to make this really easy for people

    our average customer can grow 3 oz in 80 days!

    We want to demystify this plant that is really easy to grow, i mean don’t get me wrong but the only time it’s really hard to grow is when you start to scale up.

    If you grow a couple of plants in your backyard.

    We try to educate people on soil but also

    on a particular variety of cannabis that doesn’t get anywhere near enough credit

    which is auto-flowering which is the street name, called rootarellis.

    If you look at the cannabis ~ indica and sativa and forget everything you have learned of the cannabis plant from a different perspective.

    When does this plant flower? What most

    commercial growers which is photoperiod

    and it only flowers once a year in the fall

    cannabis gardener

    have to grow it in tents because you have to get the 12 hour darkness to generate hormones to say to start flowering

    rooterellis

    auto-flowering,

    that strain evolved I actually make the argument that it is the original strain of cannabis that we created photo period

    I’m alive

    above the ground

    right way before I die

    flowers

    80-100 days from seed

    one of the cool things about rooterellis

    high in bcd and it has tech

    10% all day in rooterellis

    Commercial growers don’t want to grow the plant predominately because you have to start from seed and you can’t clone it.

    lose a little bit of crop consistency

    square foot greenhouse

    all these seeds

    grow a couple of plants

    grow 20 foot tall

    If you want to grow a 3’-5’6’ foot plant

    never exceeds 6 foot

    typically 2-3 foot range, and you get an ounce a foot that it grows

    I have customers in San Francisco who grow them on their windowsill for fun.

    I am here in a state where if you have a medical marijuana card you can maybe grow 8 plants. I also feel like another problem is that people grow it indoors and I would like to see what you do is that people are growing it organically in their gardens and not with a bunch of chemicals indoors.

    takes the heavy metals out of the soil

    When I talked to Tara about their hemp trial and how good their soy beans which grew after the hemp was incredible!

    Before we get to the root of things let’s take a minute to thank our sponsors

    Getting to the root of things!

    What is your least favorite activity to do in the garden?

    trimming of the plant

    harvest

    30-25 cuts per gram of cannabis

    just to get it t the flower

    One of the most mundane parts of growing the plant is

    And it’s all sticky and your fingers are sticky.

    The only blessing.

    fingers are st

    within the industry one of the more challenging jobs. I can definitely say I have trimmed my fair share and it’s mundane!

    On the flip side what’s your favorite activity to do in the garden?

    I think my favorite activity is playing with the plants, Is kind of playing with the plants altering their growth pattern and training them a bit.

    I’ve got one plant that’s a regular plant kept in a vegetative state for 365 days

    I’ve trained it, it has this sort of twisted bonsai planting you can do a lot of pinching the stems ~ you can slow down one shoot so another one catches up, thinning it there

    That’s the fun part of growing! Trim your plant as it grows, it’s very rewarding thing that takes quite a bit of time but is worth it in the long run!

    What is the best gardening advice you have ever received?

    Don’t overwater your plants! Definitely the biggest complaint we get.

    Plants don’t need that much water, depending on the species

    haha, my listeners are like this is the plant for Jackie! Because I struggle to water my plants the most!

    A favorite tool that you like to use? If you had to move and could only take one tool with you what would it be?

    My phone ~ It’s the star trek transponder

    I’m still curious did you say you are doing a daily call with Amsterdam?

    We haven’t even been selling the product for a full year yet This year is our growth year.

    Last year was more like

    • testing the product
    • customer results
    • data back

    somewhere in the pacific

    weed inventory

    We’re giving away 1k units looking to, trying to get 10k product testers on board

    We kow the product works but we’re looking for testers to grow one ton of cannabis. We work with

    ilovegrowingmarijuana.com

    strategic partners at this point

    My week includes 12-14 hour days but I I love it

    Been waiting for the opportunity so not complaining there

    satisfaction

    thrilled with the results

    tag line for this year

    help us grow one ton of Tax Free Cannabis by being part of this 10,000 growing army we are sort of creating here.

    How do my listeners find out about this?

    The program is launching here in a couple of weeks.

    Sign up for the email and you will know when the program launches.

    1000 kits we give away

    We’re trying to target it to

    • veterans
    • people in need
    • opioid addicts

    every hundred kits we sell we can afford to give one away

    We’re in start-up mode. We’re a scrappy little bootstrapping company here!

    Go to the website an sign up for our newsletter.! Just after April 20, 4/20/19 which is a good time to get growing.

    Tell listeners about the kit because I’ve been to your website!

    Releasing two versions of the Pot 4 a Pot kit.

    so, what we want to do is empower people to grow their own

    affordable

    simply

    The soil is the key ingredient it’s a blend 18 in gradients

    Kit comes with:

    fabric pot

    great for growing cannabis in

    carbon dioxide

    saucer

    seedling kit

    scissors

    watering can

    neem

    diatomaceous

    new version comes with a smart phone camera lens

    sticker

    grow guide

    coupon can go to

    discount on your seeds

    can’t com

    as far as I am concerned we ship everywhere

    there’s no THC in our product.

    Provide you are willing to grow

    We have sent them all over the world at this point to some surprising countries.

    He’s in the Netherlands, ILoveGrowingMarijuana is able to send seeds anywhere they want to.

    And then on top of that my mom and her friends are buying all this cbd oil to reduce their brown spots. I’m like seriously, you have no idea how much they laughed at me back in the 90’s. I’m glad. But it drives me crazy how many people mocked me for saying it could help us!

    the blessing of the cannabis plant


    Succession Lettuce Interview 287 with Ray Tyler | Rose Creek Farms | Tennessee Oct 06, 2019
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    Thursday, March 28, 2019!

    It is a pleasure to be here!

    Thanks for dealing with my tech problems gla we were able to connect!

    Back in the spring of 2009, my wife asked me to plant a small garden so she could can some salsa for the winter.

    Laid off- started farming with a tractor on 2 acres (terribly!), got into chickens, laying hens, pigs, and even a few cows.

    And after a radical diet and lifestyle change that followed our Daughter health crisis we started to consume large amounts of Vegetables, a lot less meat and in the fall of 2015 we made a leap of faith to sell our meat business, stop using a tractor, and farm using only one acre. Our farming friends thought we were insane, but we were pretty certain that focusing on just produce would allow us to master the lettuce crop in 2016. We had lettuce for sale every week that season! We were so thrilled to discover that we tripled our income on half the amount of land that year! Excited and inspired, we knew we were heading in the right direction. By focusing on creating better growing systems in our produce operation, changing our farm practices, we now have year round production, a near weed free farm (which makes me thrilled nearly every day) and being really aggressive and creative about our sales outlets for our area, we have been able to live a sustainable and enjoyable life, rarely working in the fields more that 8 hours, which was one of our top goals!

    wife ashley – 5 kids

    1981

    Tell us a little about yourself.

    My name is Ray Tyler with my wife Ashley of Rose Creek farms down here in Selma TN

    Between Memphis and Nashville

    Mississippi border

    Kind of in the edge of that zone 7-zone 8

    depends on what kind of year we are having

    trying to grow as much food as we can on one acre

    Battling the pests that never seem to die and the endless weeds thanks to the humidity

    raising 6 young at the same time! And having a blast!

    Wow you must have had a new baby!

    7 month old baby to 10 years old so there is never a dull moment!

    How great is that? These kids being raised amongst others by a garden like this!

    as they get older

    we don’t make them work on the farm

    We know a lot of children who were forced to work who hate it

    all do the house chores dishes

    farm

    they only work if they want to and we pay them for it

    It’s created a very healthy environment

    They look at the farm as a very positive aspect of their life

    fortunate

    every year they want to make more money

    do more things

    so it’s a kind of tremendous joy

    So we are homeschooling as well so they are always with us.

    Now do you have animals too?

    When we first started 10 years ago, we had this dream of farming full time. When we first got started, for the first few years the farm was absolute chaos!

    We’re trying to

    • start a business
    • farming things in the south
    • raising children

    It’s a pretty tough market

    east coast

    west coast

    local food

    pretty tough gig!

    theres not a lot of information on small scale farms in the south so we were really carving out this farm from not a lot of info we could find anyways.

    We were on 2 acres

    • 2-3k chickens
    • 300 turkeys
    • 50-60 hogs
    • cows at one point
    • 2 acres of produce with the tractor

    we were

    starting

    I’ll bet you learned a lot.

    We learned a ton! so much!

    we learned just a ton!

    we got at this point at 2015

    when a lot of people start farming or gardening, thinkingwe have this idea of we want to have time we wnat to go out work the land of our family

    Get out of the rat race and the 9-5 grind and we wanted to farm to escape that

    Fast forward a few years and I was finding I had less time for my family before I started farming then after

    In 2015 we had this wakeup call, February 2015

    greenhouses packed of transplants for production

    big batch of broilers on order

    My wife came home with my daughter and said are you ready for life to change?

    I said don’t be silly we’re farmers, nothing new around here

    Can I just back up, your baby daughter?

    Some back story, we sent our daughter to a dentist, they saw something funky to gums and it came back positive for carcenoma, and she was 6 years old!

    It was a big deal, and a tough time to put the farm on hold

    spring

    tough time to do that

    best thing that ever happened to us

    believe it or not

    organic farmers

    worst eaters of all

    on the road

    deliveries

    not spending as much time as you would like cooking your food

    So our health was terrible!

    gaining weight

    ailments

    so what it did basically we had to take a step way back and reevaluate everything we were doing and the children, we had 4 at the time

    With all the chaos that comes with

    all those animals

    driving to market

    and all that time we were taking her to the hospital

    our daughter is cancer free just so you know, we thank God every day for her life!

    at that season ~ we were like, what we want at the end of the day

    you can have a farm and houses and land and cars what is important is that at the end of the day we are surrounded by the ones we love and they love us

    we stressed for the rest of our life would be based on time with our family and brought everything back through this lens that looked like

    if this takes away time from our end goal

    • healthy family
    • home school them
    • time
    • trips
    • experiences

    If it takes away from any of that we have to reevaluate if that’s what were supposed to be doing at this time.

    we questioned should we keep farming? This is a big deal if there were a few weeks of her to live.

    There is nothing worse for a parent to be faced with the thought for losing a child and we are thankful we did’t have to do that. But we realized that life is precious, every moment is fleeting, you never know if tomorrow or today is our last day.

    At the end of that season we basically got rid of our animals and changed our diet for her

    • no pork
    • vegetable based diet
    • to help her recover from cancer
    • less meat
    • more produce

    looking at raising the animals, if processing them was no longer bringing us joy so we imagined what life would be like for us without the livestock portion of our business

    life would be good if we

    • didn’t have to feed the pigs
    • take care of all these turkeys

    sold the livestock

    We’d been growing on 2 acres

    Had all the tractor equipment where I had no idea

    sold all the equipment

    went down to one acre

    knew I had a big market for lettuce

    developing on how to have it year round

    never really had the time to give the proper attention to this crop

    focus her in the south

    lettuce needed to be planted

    cultivated

    time and attention that it needed

    all the animals

    one acre

    Really focused on 10-15 crops

    tripled our gross on the vegetable side of business on 1/2 the amount of land for probably

    working

    2016 commitment we were only going to work 8 hours a day

    I wanted to be home for suppers, put them to bed, and to have that quality time in the evening.

    How were able to do that? Did you hire help? Farmer only working 8 hours a day during the season? Maybe in Tennessee your in season all year?

    In Tennessee, three’s this time in August its so hot, other then greens there’s not a whole lot going on, everything’s just done.

    how we did that

    We already had some accounts that we had been working on for 5 years

    we were very deliberate what we were going to grow

    growing is the easy part

    selling is the hard part

    sales

    records

    what we knew we could sell

    80 varieties of vegetables we cut out all that waste and we grew the probably 10-20 crops we knew we could sell at that time of year

    Simplified everything!

    another thing we did

    we still o to this day at certain times of year

    what killed us wheat

    wheat acropolis down here in the

    Invested in like $2000 of landscape fabric.

    automated

    10 hours of cultivation

    for the season

    landscape fabrics

    • laid out the fabric
    • plant
    • set up automatic water
    • next thing you do is harvest and sell
    • eliminated hundreds of hours

    Eliminated hundreds of hours on watering and and cultivation

    changed everything!

    Streamlined our whole process,there’s a lot more complicaterd but aht’s the basic thing

    knowing we were only growing

    I did spend $1500 various educational consulting for my business

    I want to make this thing happen this year, I could figure this out but that investment in the education really helped combined with my experience

    Can I just ask, did you take a class or invest in a mentor? REad books?

    A number of things:

    I did a series of phone conversations with Curtis Stone

    He took a look at our farm, he didn’t really tell us what to do but asked us some questions of, have you considered this?

    I already knew what to do, but having that sounding board really helped a lot

    Then I did another series of consulting, be cause me and my wife farm together

    farming with a partner

    that was really the biggest thing

    interseeding thing

    At the end of 2015 I hired JM to come down to my farm, I ended up selling tickets for that event, because it is pretty expensive so I sold tickets for that event which sold out in a short amount of time

    idea to give me some tips on my farm but since I spent so much time organizing this event, we became great friends, but I didn’t get the consulting I was planning. Doing workshops on a farm is a tremendous amount of work. So it was a mixture of all that

    It wasn’t as much what we did as what we did not do. When you drop a pretty large animal business, it opens up a tremendous amount of time.

    Having that other business took up a lot of brain wave, like where’s this going to be sold so I was able to put time towards my produce production.

    And when you go from two acres to one acre it just makes things Very very simple

    When you go from chaos to order it makes things very easy to metabolize

    how all this was going to work

    I had 5 years experience before . It was just taking out the fat and really leaning being deliberate about what you are going to grow and getting some other help looking at the whole system!

    You have no idea how fascinating this is to us. My husband and I are drooling over this place in Maine that is 175 acres of woods with 13 acres of farmland, with 2 homes, we are in just 20 acres. It’s like less then 60 miles from Johnny’s selected seeds in Maine. It’s got a house that needs a ton of work, I feel like the house could be an awesome education center. I just can’t imagine what it would take. My husband grew up on 1200 acres and we’re just so boxed in here. I keep asking the realtor aren’t there any records, that’s what I feel like what we need to do, is to offer a farmer in the local area that cuold pay...


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    Permaculture Soil Science & Solutions KICKSTARTER campaign

    Matt Powers Rockstar Millennial, high school English and Social Studies Teacher, and Permacutlure Curriculum designer is here to share his amazing journey and passion to teach everyone he can reach about the power of permaculture. Working with some of the most scientific names in the field including Elaine Ingham, David Montgomery and the Geoff Lawton Matt is on a mission to change the way we look at soil in the 21st century.

    Matt was my guest on episode 132 where he shared his amazing garden journey from professional bass player to high school educator to science curriculum creator!

    permaculture student online Matt PowersThis episode is a must listen for any master gardeners or even novices who want to learn about soil in a way that any high schooler can understand. With over 20 years of experience teaching and gardening Matt’s passion shines through as dad, husband and steward of our planet.


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