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    Greater Than Code

    For a long time, tech culture has focused too narrowly on technical skills; this has resulted in a tech community that too often puts companies and code over people. Greater Than Code is a podcast that invites the voices of people who are not heard from enough in tech: women, people of color, trans and/or queer folks, to talk about the human side of software development and technology. Greater Than Code is providing a vital platform for these conversations, and developing new ideas of what it means to be a technologist beyond just the code.
    Featuring an ongoing panel of racially and gender diverse tech panelists, the majority of podcast guests so far have been women in tech! We’ve covered topics including imposter syndrome, mental illness, sexuality, unconscious bias and social justice. We also have a major focus on skill sets that tech too often devalues, like team-building, hiring, community organizing, mentorship and empathy. Each episode also includes a transcript.
    We have an active Slack community that members can join by pledging as little as $1 per month via Patreon. (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode)

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    168: Appolition with Dr. Kortney Ziegler Feb 05, 2020
    Show notes

    01:06 - Kortney’s Superpower: Being a visionary. Seeing things that aren’t necessarily there.

    01:50 - How Appolition Came to Be

    • Grassroots Company Crowdfunding Money for Incarcerated Black Mothers
    • Tweeted About Using the Change Round Up Model
    • Educating Those in Tech About What Bail Is
    • Gaining Trust

    07:20 - Kortney’s Professional Background

    • Building Things in Technological Space
    • PhD in 2011 - difficulty finding substantial employment
    • Filmmaker, Scholar
    • Encountered a lot of discrimination in professional career
    • Became Entrepreneur in 2012/2013
    • Attended Filmmakers Hackathon
    • Launched Trans*H4CK
    • Appolition

    13:10 - Appolition Specifics

    • Bail is Predatory
    • Educate Yourself About Bail
    • Partnered With Outside Team
    • 2000 Users, Waitlist of 8000
    • Then Brought In House
    • Unlimited Users
    • Web App - No Download Required

    19:45 - Partnering With Others To Provide Education

    21:00 - Surprises/Ah-Ha Moments

    • The Expenses
    • Humbling to Recognize the Work That Goes Into It
    • Naming of the App Traveling in Media Convos

    25:10 - The Goal of Appolition

    • How We Can Leverage Technology That Exists

    30:00 - Lessons From A Hackathon

    • Went As Award Winning Filmmaker
    • Engineers Not Willing to Hear Ideas of Creators
    • Led to Creating Trans*H4CK
    • Refuge Restroom

    35:19 - Changes Seen At Tech Events Since Trans*H4CK

    • Great Conversations and Events Happened
    • Startups Can Shift Rules, They Haven’t been As Inclusive As the Discourse Surrounding Them Was Encouraging Them To Be
    • Some Things Were Good, Some Things Were Bad, Some Things Need Improvement

    43:08 - Plans After Leaving Tech

    • Getting Back to Creative Side
    • Filmmaking
    • Self-Improvement

    45:49 - Fatigue

    50:00 - Future Endeavors

    • Follow @Appolition
    • #AppolitionBookList

    Reflections:

    Jamey: Appolition being a webapp so that it is accessible to those who don’t have smartphones.

    Chanté: Going back into self improvement and self reflection is being tucked into the back of my mind.

    Jacob: What are conversations I can have that I have access to about diversity and inclusion before the professional gets called in.

    Kortney: Moved by the idea of finding community in tech.

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

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    Special Guest: Dr. Kortney Ziegler.

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    167: Clarity of Thought with Ted M. Young Jan 29, 2020
    Show notes

    01:20 - Ted’s Superpower: Translating things for people to understand better.

    02:49 - Coding on a Live Stream

    • Curiosity is Useful and Dangerous
    • Comparing Coding to Puzzles

    07:13 - Research is a Drug

    • Finding Answers is Gratifying
    • Current Reading Infects Daily Thought
    • Anders Ericsson

    10:45 - Connecting the Academic Idea of Expertise to Everyday Context

    • Worked Examples
    • Memory Limits
    • Gaining a Solid Foundation for Training Purposes
    • The Path of Decision-making

    16:50 - Code Reviews

    • Learning About Decisions Made Along the Way
    • Pair Programming and Mob Programming
    • Externalizing Your Thinking
    • Curse of Knowledge

    19:41 - Recording Yourself Coding/Learning Something New

    • Gaining Empathy
    • Improving Documentation and Communication

    21:56 - Live Streaming as an Introvert

    • What Other People Get Out of It
    • Seeing People Struggle and Being Able to Help
    • We All Get Lost
    • Building Community
    • Being Comfortable Showing Frustration

    29:41 - The Difference Between Training and Live Coding

    • Suz Hinton
    • Accountability in Live Coding
    • Privilege

    35:35 - Applying Research to TDD Teaching Technique

    • James Shore
    • The Thinking Part and the Predictive Aspect
    • It’s Not About the Test Failing, It’s About Validating Your Mental Model
    • Retrieval Practice
    • Formative and Summative Assessments
    • Spaced Repetition
    • AnkiApp
    • The Purpose of Patterns

    48:27 - Human Learning

    • Stop Teaching People What They Know and Find Out What They Don’t Know

    Reflections:

    Jamey: ‘Predictions’ in TDD - Having more succinct language for things in your head strengthens understanding.

    Artemis: The concept of strengthening and muscle. If we can work deliberately on strengthening these muscles then in the moments of our everyday work we can improve the quality of our day to day decisions.

    Ted: An aspect of expertise is you start connecting more things. We have to find a place for the ‘why.’

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

    To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps. You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well.

    Amazon links may be affiliate links, which means you’re supporting the show when you purchase our recommendations. Thanks!

    Special Guest: Ted M. Young.

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    166: From Software Engineer to Management with Phil Wheeler Jan 22, 2020
    Show notes

    01:10 - Phil’s Superpower: Putting Himself in Others’ Shoes.

    02:03/09:14 From Software Engineer to Management

    • Empathy Through The Career Shift
    • The Learning Curve
    • Making a Conscious Choice To Switch
    • Gaining Leadership Skills
    • Making Your Own Opportunities

    03:34 - How Phil Came Into The Greater Than Code Community

    • Found Through Twitter
    • Codemania

    05:54 - Commonalities Between Issues Between USA and NZ

    • Inclusion, Equality in Technology

    07:05 - Life Science Software Experience

    • Cloud Based, LT
    • Awareness of Accessibility

    16:45 - To Get Into Management or Not

    • It’s Not For Everyone
    • Impostor Syndrome

    18:55 - The Parallels Of Management And Parenting

    26:17 - Working From Home Or The Office

    • Setting The Right Examples For The Team
    • Encouraging People To Take Leave, Learning And Development Opportunities, Health Reasons Without Repercussions

    31:47 - Living In A College/University Town

    32:54 - Overcoming Impostor Syndrome

    • Exists In The Technology Sector
    • Exists In Other Disciplines
    • Turn The Ship Around!
    • The Manager’s Path

    35:58 - Empathy For Managers And Employees

    • Leadership Development
    • Self-Reflection/Self-Awareness
    • Journaling/Note Taking
    • Becoming A Technical Leader

    51:11 - Phil’s Thoughts For The Future

    • Citizens Before Consumers
    • What Can We Do Better?
    • The Global Digital Citizen Foundation

    Reflections:

    Jacob: Happy being an individual contributor but contributing to the art of management by being a better employee and having empathy for managers.

    Phil: Self-Awareness and empathy. Wanting to push his people in a certain direction but taking that step back and determining where that motivation is coming from.

    Chanté: Impostor syndrome: at some point in time we’re all impostors. Doing reading about leadership can help whether you are taking that path or not.

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

    To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps. You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well.

    Amazon links may be affiliate links, which means you’re supporting the show when you purchase our recommendations. Thanks!

    Special Guest: Phil Wheeler.

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    Fast & Furious with Penelope Phippen Jan 15, 2020
    Show notes

    Please enjoy this mini-episode of Greater Than Code featuring guest Penelope Phippen as we begin to pivot to our new podcast theme, the Fast & Furious. *

    ( * Just kidding, we are still a tech podcast.)

    But we do hope you enjoy this set of outtakes where we grill Penelope on her Fast & Furious knowledge and speculate about the future of the franchise.)

    This is the kind of content we normally release exclusively to our Patreon subscribers, but we didn't want to hoard such joy, so it's a gift to all of you. But if you want more content like this, an invite to our Slack group, AND an invite to the Fast & Furious party at Jamey's house, please support us on Patreon! *

    ( * That is also a joke, if you're a Patron, thank you for your support, but please don't show up to Jamey's house unannounced.)

    Special Guest: Penelope Phippen.

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    165: Rubyfmt with Penelope Phippen Jan 15, 2020
    Show notes

    01:37 - Penelope’s Superpower: An extremely cursed knowledge of the Ruby programming language’s grammar.

    03:09 - Writing Ruby Programming

    05:50 - Why Penelope is Doing This the Way She Is

    • Were Any Bugs Found in the Ruby Grammar
    • There is No Spec
    • There is No Written Standard for How Ruby is Supposed to Work

    07:32 - Inability to Extract Parse.y Out

    • Penelope’s Ideas

    12:02 - What Problem Penelope is Trying to Solve With This Program

    • Rubocop Doesn’t Well Solve This Problem

    18:30 - Hierarchy of Nitpicking

    20:35 - Opportunities for Collaboration

    22:44 - Major Challenges Faced

    • Finding Time
    • No Major Challenges
    • Community Overwhelmingly Welcoming
    • This is Not a Gem

    25:58 - What Others Will Do With Rubyfmt

    28:08 - Finding Time and Motivation to Work on Rubyfmt

    30:00 - Why Penelope Hasn’t Got Pushback

    • There Isn’t Another Tool in This Class for Ruby

    34:25 - Heretically Creating An Ergonomic Way To Work With ASTs

    37:00 - The Fate of Regional Ruby Conferences

    • Regional Conferences Are Valuable For Other People
    • Speakers Can Get Their Start
    • Local Conferences Can Benefit Local Speakers
    • Struggling to Get Speakers
    • Organizers Burnout and No One Takes Over
    • $$ - Hard to Break Even

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

    To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps. You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well.

    Amazon links may be affiliate links, which means you’re supporting the show when you purchase our recommendations. Thanks!

    Special Guest: Penelope Phippen.

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    164: Psychological Balance with Dr. Mireille Reece Jan 08, 2020
    Show notes

    01:14 - Mireille’s Superpower: Being just herself. The sense of respect around the individuality of every person.

    02:30 - Being Different From Others is a Good Thing

    • Nature vs. Nurture
    • Epigenetics

    05:59 - Our Brains and Empathy

    • Mirror Neurons
    • Dr. Dan Siegel
    • The Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon/Frequency Illusion

    11:15 - The Brain vs. The Mind

    • Extended Cognition
    • Sensation and Perception
    • Survival Rules - Virginia Satir

    19:22 - Three Brains in One

    21:51 - HPA Axis

    • Dr. John Briere

    23:06 - Overcoming Unconscious Impulses

    • Fight or Flight
    • Collateral Data
    • Brené Brown
    • Grounding

    26:56 - Affective Prosody

    • Gavin de Becker - The Gift of Fear
    • Incongruence

    33:26 - Balancing Transparency at Work

    • Humanity in Tech
    • Codeswitching
    • Arianna Huffington
    • Relationships at Work
    • Psychological Safety
    • Shame
    • Learned Helplessness

    48:41 - Effort Over Outcome

    56:15 - Using the Word “While”

    59:25 - Decoding Your Anger

    • Using Energy

    01:05:28 - “Plays” or Neural Routes

    01:09:20 - Correlation vs. Causation

    Reflections:

    Rein: Bringing our whole self to work without thinking about punishment or reprisal. Finding psychological safety.

    Jacob: How he thinks one of the biggest problems in the tech industry is that there is this brick wall around feelings and how feelings and work don’t mix. Rather than a brick wall, what kind of filter can we put in front of our emotional lives that is appropriate for the professional world?

    Mireille: It really is around being able to see other people as people and when we do that most of the time people are not trying to make our lives more difficult.

    Check out Mireille’s podcast Brain Science here.

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

    To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps. You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well.

    Amazon links may be affiliate links, which means you’re supporting the show when you purchase our recommendations. Thanks!

    Special Guest: Dr. Mireille Reece.

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    163: Cause A Scene with Kim Crayton Jan 01, 2020
    Show notes

    01:24 - Kim’s Superpower: Being a Black Woman in Tech with a Strategy and a Platform.

    02:21 - Continuously Validating Your Space as a Black Woman

    • Technical vs. Technology
    • Kamala Harris Suspending Her Campaign
    • Inclusion, Diversity, and Business Strategy

    08:10 - The System was Built to Harm and Oppress Black Women

    • Lift Ev’ry Voice and Sing
    • Stacey Abrams
    • F*ck Civility
    • White People are on a Spectrum of Racist
    • Ibram Kendi: How To Be an Antiracist
    • Black People Cannot be Racist

    15:42 - The Only Power Black People Have is the Power Whiteness Has Given Them

    • Capitalism, Communism, Marxism, Socialism are Theories Rooted in White Supremacy

    21:24 - White Feminism is Bullsh*t

    • White Women are Now the Default Diversity in Tech

    25:50 - Being a Strategist

    • Influencing Small to Medium Sized Business
    • Making Meaningful Impactful Change in Tech

    33:15 - #causeascene

    35:41 - Price Asymmetry

    36:48 - Kim’s Six-Step Process

    40:15 - Stop Looking for Simple Solutions to Complex Problems

    • Defining Racism Beyond the Dictionary Definition

    44:29 - Future of Jobs Report from World Economic Forum

    45:55 - Strategies for Developing Your Other Technical Skills

    48:15 - Bounded Rationality

    • Facts Change, Truth Remains the Same
    • Collaboration Over Competition

    52:10 - Can We Have Antiracist Capitalism?

    01:00:59 - Defining Racism

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

    To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps. You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well.

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    Special Guest: Kim Crayton.

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    162: Glue Work with Denise Yu Dec 25, 2019
    Show notes

    00:58 - Denise’s Superpower: She is a classically trained musician and is good at transcribing music in her head.

    03:30 - Glue Work

    • Tanya Reilly
    • Doing Tasks That Are Adjacent to Coding
    • Scheduling
    • Making Sure Meetings Have Agendas
    • Who Tends to do Glue Work
    • Emotional Labor

    13:07 - What Denise Has Done to Improve the Glue Work Situation

    • Having the Terminology Helps A Lot

    17:31 - How to Address Changing the Structure of Glue Work

    • Thinking Globally and Acting Locally
    • Burnout
    • Writing More Feedback Than Managers Expect
    • Writing Feedback About Glue Work
    • Virginia Satir

    31:40 - Offboarding Yourself

    37:10 - Release Engineering

    39:45 - Being a Product Manager

    46:39 - Being Back in the Development Role

    • Working With Teams

    Reflections:

    John: The distinction between glue work that is just work that you are doing and glue work that you are enjoying and getting satisfaction out of. See what he can do to add glue work tasks into evaluations and part of everyone’s job.

    Rein: Burnout isn’t just working long hours. Burnout becomes a real danger when those things combine with acute alienation.

    Jacob: If product managers tried to be more transparent with their day to day tasks, and trying to listen more himself to what the PMs are saying.

    Denise: Thinking globally but solving locally. Always be offboarding yourself.

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

    To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps. You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well.

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    Special Guest: Denise Yu.

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    161: Making Space with Bärí A. Williams Dec 18, 2019
    Show notes

    01:48 - Bärí’s Superpower: Being a Black Woman

    05:20/22:50 - Admitting and Knowing What You Don’t Know

    • Intersectionality and Culture

    10:00 - Born and Raised in Oakland

    • Gentrification
    • What is the Deficit of the City
    • Being Connected to Your Roots

    19:30 - Unintended Consequences

    • Building Algorithms That Fact Check
    • You Don’t Know What You Don’t Know
    • Facts Are Not Facts Anymore
    • Tutorial to Boy Scouts About Getting Stopped by Police
    • Keeping the Kids Alive

    33:15 - Where is the Light (In the Technology)

    • Technology is the Mirror of the People Creating It
    • Creating an Open Space
    • Prioritizing Important Events

    42:34 - Getting Organizations to Buy Into the Open Space Concept

    48:50 - Who’s Job is it to Educate the Children About Bias

    • Allyship
    • Seeing White Podcast

    58:47 - Diversity or Inclusion

    • Lagging Metric or Leading Metric
    • Draw People In With Inclusion

    01:03:59 - Taking Space and Making Space

    Reflections:

    Arty: Multigenerational roots, becoming your own being, being raised to be proud of yourself and say what you think. Be the roots for the people around you. There has been a loss of grounding.

    Chanté: Bärí is the real deal. It takes only a few to change history. Being real is valuable.

    Jacob: Wants his son to know that he won’t have to worry when being pulled over, and he should be troubled by that fact.

    Bärí: What do you connect to, who do you connect to? What and who are you thankful for? Think about that.

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

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    Special Guest: Bärí A. Williams.

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    160: Thermodynamics of the Twitterverse Dec 11, 2019
    Show notes

    01:50 - Getting Sucked into Twitter Vortexes

    03:06 - Dynamics of Human Emotion

    • Willem Larsen Episode
    • Prometheus Rising

    05:36 - Creating Safe Spaces for Emotionally Charged Conversations

    07:57 - Radical Inclusion

    • Shared Conversation About Humanity

    09:49 - Overidentification/Over Attachment to Tribalism

    • Race and Ethnicity are Socially Constructed (yes!)

    12:15 - Digital Activism

    • Retweeting What We Agree With, Not What We Disagree With (How it’s Taken)
    • Encouraging Good Faith Disagreements

    15:22 - Tribal Dynamics

    16:45 - People From Oppressed Groups Have the Right to Rage

    • Being an Advocate
    • Making Space

    24:30 - The Changing Frequencies of People

    26:58 - Call-Out Culture

    • Calling In
    • Invisibilia
    • Wanting to See People Make Right/Not Shunning Them

    32:20 - We Are All Human!

    Reflections:

    Arty: How much our connectivity is an opportunity to see our diversity and the strength and power and creative coolness of one another and if we can come together in shared space, what is the vision we can craft together.

    Chanté: Synchronicity and thinking about the way things happen. Glad to have this conversation.

    Jacob: How to make a community of people that can have difficult conversations, certain boundaries need to be respected.

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

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