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    Greater Than Code

    For a long time, tech culture has focused too narrowly on technical skills; this has resulted in a tech community that too often puts companies and code over people. Greater Than Code is a podcast that invites the voices of people who are not heard from enough in tech: women, people of color, trans and/or queer folks, to talk about the human side of software development and technology. Greater Than Code is providing a vital platform for these conversations, and developing new ideas of what it means to be a technologist beyond just the code.
    Featuring an ongoing panel of racially and gender diverse tech panelists, the majority of podcast guests so far have been women in tech! We’ve covered topics including imposter syndrome, mental illness, sexuality, unconscious bias and social justice. We also have a major focus on skill sets that tech too often devalues, like team-building, hiring, community organizing, mentorship and empathy. Each episode also includes a transcript.
    We have an active Slack community that members can join by pledging as little as $1 per month via Patreon. (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode)

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    Special Edition: COVID-19 Apr 09, 2020
    Show notes

    Content warnings for discussion of pandemic and sickness, American politics, and mental health issues.

    In this special episode of Greater Than Code, several of our panelists have a candid conversation about the current COVID-19 situation, how it has been affecting them personally, and how they believe it will affect the tech industry as a whole. Discussion topics include how it feels both to be working and unemployed during the pandemic, productivity while quarantined, the effect on WFH and conference culture, the current political climate, and human resiliency in the face of the unknown.

    Links Mentioned:

    • I Want to Know What Day It Is - Foreigner Parody
    • Becoming More Fully Human with Virginia Satir

    Additional show notes:

    Jamey wanted to report that after recording was finished, they called their favorite restaurant back and was able to successfully order takeout after all.

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    177: Source Docs and People with Chris Stead Apr 08, 2020
    Show notes

    00:56 - Chris’ Superpower: Not Knowing In Public

    • Asking Questions

    02:53 - Source Documents and Their Relation To People

    • Grace Hopper
    • Maintaining Code to Give People Context (Writing Code For People)
    • Critical Complexity
    • Indu Alagarsamy

    06:44 - Encouraging Others To Write Code For People

    • Modeling Behavior
    • Event Storming
    • ECO Mapping (Ego, Command, Outcome)
    • Creating Culture
    • Arlo Belshee: Naming is a Process

    12:39 - Naming Things in Code / Narratives in Software and Business

    18:53 - Asking the Right Questions

    • Google-Fu
    • Mobbing Interviews

    22:38 - Interviewing for the Benefit of the Interviewee

    • The Problem with Being Transactional
    • It’s People All The Way Down
    • Empathetic Interviewing

    33:44 - Treating People as People; Making Things More Humane

    • Peopleware
    • Books by Gerald Weinburg
    • The Mythical Man-Month
    • The Cathedral & the Bazaar: Musings On Linux And Open Source By An Accidental Revolutionary
    • Willem Larsen

    38:23 - Code Stores Emotion

    • Measuring Progression
    • The Valley of Despair

    45:19 - Deciding: “Will this be helpful for someone else?”

    Reflections:

    Jessica: The idea that code can convey emotions. Even code can be Greater Than Code.

    John: Structuring interviews with goals around comfort and familiarity so people can perform at their best.

    Jamey: Imbuing things with the feeling when you wrote it.

    Chris: If you’re feeling frustrated, kind is great. Also, everything is a systemic whole.

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    176: Career Karma with Ruben Harris Apr 01, 2020
    Show notes

    01:44 - Ruben’s Superpower: Believing in people more than they believe in themselves and helping people to meet their potential.

    03:00 - How Ruben Developed His Superpower

    • Natural Belief In Self
    • Father and Mother’s Example

    06:35 - Benefits Of Being Underestimated

    • Conquering Challenges
    • Career Karma Coaches And Squads

    11:15 - Career Karma Success Story

    13:50 - Fires Lit Inside

    15:03 - Origin Of Career Karma

    • App Launched January 2019
    • CareerKarma.com/schools
    • Learn And Experience The Companies
    • Breaking into Startups
    • The Reality of Breaking Into Startups: The First Product You Build Is Yourself

    18:10 - How Career Karma Secured Funding

    23:38 - What Makes The Success Of Career Karma Different

    • Culture of Experimentation

    25:25 - What It Feels Like To Know You Are Doing What You Are Meant To Be Doing

    • Pay Attention To The Patterns In Your Life

    31:21 - Impact of Coronavirus

    36:15 - Who Will Benefit From Remote Work

    38:00 - The Career Karma Team

    • Pay It Forward

    42:30 - If You Want To Be A Master In Life, You Have To Submit To A Master

    44:30 - What’s On The Horizon For Career Karma

    48:20 - The Biggest Lesson Ruben Has Learned Thus Far

    LINKS:

    • State of the Bootcamp Market Report 2020
    • Remote Working Tips and Complete Guide to Telecommuting in 2020
    • How to Pay for Coding Bootcamp: The Ultimate Guide
    • Income Share Agreements: State of the Market 2019

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    175: Developing for the Long Term with Eric A. Meyer Mar 25, 2020
    Show notes

    00:57 - Eric’s Superpower: The Ability To Explain Things In A Way That Makes Sense To Most People

    02:37 - Legacy Capability Of The Web

    • Web Technologies Are Long Term
    • Frameworks
    • Lynx
    • Y2K

    11:30 - Creating Long Term Within Frameworks

    • Static Can Be Good

    15:50 - Ethical Dimensions

    • RAINN
    • Information Accessible As Widely As Possible
    • Long Term vs. Short Term Code

    20:50 - Longevity Of The Web

    23:11 - Edge Cases - Stress Cases

    • Evan Hensleigh @futuraprime
    • Design For Real Life

    25:44 - Make Everything Accessible To The Most People

    • Diverse Teams Are Stronger
    • Making Assumptions
    • Write People Off Explicitly

    44:00 - Design For Real Life

    • Challenging Team Assumptions
    • The Designated Dissenter
    • Sarah Parmenter @sazzy

    Reflections:

    John: The designated dissenter idea. Doing a pre-mortem on a project - planning ahead.

    Carina: A whole other conversation could come of the philosophy of agile and move fast and break things.

    Jacob: How the dissenter could be a challenging position to be in.

    Eric: The dissenter is stress testing, not criticizing.

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    174: Resilience Mar 18, 2020
    Show notes

    01:38 - What Does Resilience Mean To The Panelists?

    • John - [It’s] Like A Flexible Tree That Can Bend With The Wind Or Environment - It Does Not Resist Or Break
    • Chanté - Tenacity And Grit And Being Able To Cope Or Withstand Something That You Didn’t Foresee - It Doesn’t Break You, It Makes You Stronger
    • Antifragile
    • Rein - [It’s] About Unforeseen Surprises

    03:36 - Thoughts On David Woods - Four Concepts for Resilience

    • Resilience As Rebound
    • Resilience As Robustness
    • Resilience As The Opposite Of Brittleness
    • Resilience As Sustained Adaptability

    04:49 - Applying Resilience To Leadership

    • High Performance Organization - HPO
    • People Make Up Companies

    14:40 - The Difference Between Sustainability And Resilience

    17:20 - Welcoming The Resilient Mindset

    18:30 - Creating And Acknowledging Resilience

    21:54 - Organization Resilience And Adaptive Capacity

    • Richard Cook’s REdeploy 2019 Talk On The Resilience Of Bone
    • Convincing Employers To Become More Resilient To Reduce Harm To Employees

    27:15 - Resilience Related To Diversity And Inclusion

    • Families And Communities

    31:00 - Resilience Within Software Development

    • Software Being Made Robust, Not Resilient
    • Rejection Proof - A Parallel Between People And Software
    • Casey Rosenthal REdeploy2019

    36:27 - What Price Do We Pay For Not Prioritizing Resiliency

    • Existential Risk

    39:00 - Rein’s Wrap-Up On Resilience

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

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    173: The Ethical Open Source Movement Mar 11, 2020
    Show notes

    02:22 - Coraline Talks About Her Work With The Open Source Movement

    • Seth Vargo: @sethvargo
    • The Open Source License - The Hippocratic License
    • Bruce Perens

    08:14 - Who Wrote The Open Source License

    • The Libertarian Platform
    • Balancing Our Individual Freedoms With Societal Good

    10:26 - The Open Source Initiative

    11:25 - Licensing And The Evolution Of Open Source

    • Realizing The Impact Of Open Source On Human Society
    • The Structure of Scientific Revolutions - Thomas Kuhn
      • Procrastination
      • Assimilation
      • Revolution

    18:43 - Litigation Thoughts

    • Promoting Arbitration Over Litigation
    • Advantages Of Adopting The License
    • Putting The Power In The Hands Of The Creators

    23:31 - Creators’ Rights

    • Corporations Are Benefiting From The Free Labor Of The Community

    26:00 - Tying The Hippocratic License To Open Source

    • The Declaration of Human Rights
    • Matt Boehm: @bigolewannabe
    • Accepting Critique
    • The Ethical Source Working Group

    28:48 - Other Prongs Of Approach Other Than The License

    • Scholarship

    30:50 - Coraline’s Candidacy For The OSI Board

    • Tobie Langel: @tobie

    34:00 - What Open Source Means To The Panelists

    38:50 - The Concept Of Community

    • How Maintainers Have Changed Their Relationships With Communities
    • Writing Values And Aspirations In Codes Of Conduct

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    172: Limitations of Human Knowledge with Miko Matsumura Mar 04, 2020
    Show notes

    02:12 - Miko’s Superpower: Not Knowing Things.

    03:30 - Coming To Your Senses

    • Breaking Out Of Thinking
    • Detecting - Venture Capitalism
    • Pattern Making And Pattern Matching

    06:45 - Understand The Limits Of What You Can Know And What You Do Know

    • Knowing People
    • Knowing Industries
    • Most Humans Don’t Know A Lot Of Things
    • Impermanence

    11:45 - Human Decision Making Is An Embodied Process

    • The Gut Feeling
      • Enteric Nervous System
      • Sympathetic And Parasympathetic Nervous Systems
      • Central Nervous System
    • The Heart Feelings
    • Feelings Are Emotions

    18:30 - Interviews As Coachable And Teachable Moments

    • The Gig Economy
    • Prioritizing The Development Of Relationships
    • Exhibited Behaviors That Match Patterns Are Coachable And Teachable

    25:33 - Problems With The Interview Framework

    29:23 - Human Action Is Connected To Emotion

    • The Human Brain

    34:30 - Not Knowing As A Superpower

    • Action Potential

    39:56 - Small Mind, Big Mind

    • Losing Your Mind And Coming To Your Senses

    45:50 - Being Over Reliant On The Posture Of Knowing

    • Andrew Yang
    • Peter Thiel - Zero to One
    • Human Advantage Over Machines

    50:16 - The Notion Of Marriage

    • Dr. John Gottman
    • The Idea Of Magic

    Reflections:

    Jessica: Favorite part is the idea that if we think we know something, that leads to despair sometimes. The release of admitting we don’t know everything is a source of hope.

    Jacob: Feeling like I’m known personally and professionally is important to me, but being known in a deterministic way resonated with me.

    Artemis: The Bob Marley principle that was mentioned. Thinking about that philosophy connects with the ideas we talked about. When you realize all the intelligence that is out there, thinking of how small you are. If we can lose our mind and come back to our senses and see that we are part of this fabric, we’re not really all that different.

    Miko: “You can’t fool all the people all the time.” It is a way of connecting with the world of limitation.

    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode

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    171: Web Accessibility with Chris DeMars Feb 26, 2020
    Show notes

    01:14 - Chris’s Superpower: His Ability to Sleep.

    01:50 - Why Chris Wants To Talk About Web Accessibility

    • Top 3 Priorities When Building on the Web
      • Accessibility
      • Performance
      • Security

    02:45 - Whose Responsibility Is It To Build An Accessible Web?

    • Anyone Building On The Web
    • Dominos’ Lawsuit
    • WCAG

    07:38 - How To Inform And Get Colleagues On Board With Accessibility

    • Understanding The Clientele
    • Have Numbers To Back It Up

    11:45 - Image Descriptions

    • Alt Attributes
    • Twitter Adds Alt Text For .gifs

    16:34 - Companies Deal With Accessibility Lawsuits

    19:07 - Where To Start Making Changes

    • Only Shipping One Experience That Works For Everybody
    • Make Sure You Are Using Semantic Markup
    • Color Contrast
    • Make Sure There Are Alt Attributes On Your Images

    27:50 - What Can Developers Do Today To Make Changes

    • Start With An Audit
    • Compare To Competitors

    31:06 - Work Collaboratively With The Designers

    34:15 - How To Be Accessible For Various Disabilities

    • Hearing
    • Cognitive
    • Physical

    37:10 - Accessibility Can Benefit Everyone

    Reflections:

    Chris: Accessibility is not a requirement, it is a must. From Marcy Sutton: Every little bit of accessibility you contribute is so necessary and so needed.

    Carina: The concrete useful examples such as audits are beneficial to business people.

    Jacob: Wants to get better at using a screen reader to gain empathy about what the right thing is to do.

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    170: The Case for Vanilla JavaScript with Chris Ferdinandi Feb 19, 2020
    Show notes

    00:53 - Chris’s Superpower: Derailing conversations and having a knack for taking complex tasks and breaking them down into smaller, simpler parts that people find easy to understand.

    01:44 - The Pitch for Vanilla JavaScript

    03:06 - Peoples’ Biggest Challenge as a Developer

    • Having Trouble Keeping Up
    • Adding Processes and Tools Make it More Difficult to Get Started
    • “The Right Way To Do It”

    05:50 - The Problem With The Way We Do Things Today

    • Front-End Development
    • Back-End Developers Move to Front-End

    08:30 - Modern Web Development

    • The Use of Frameworks
    • Package Managers
    • “The Cascade is Bad” - Using More JavaScript

    11:42 - A Better Approach To Web Development

    • Sometimes Old Is Better
    • Don’t Ditch The Old Just Because Something New Came Out
    • Embrace The Platform
    • Think Smaller And More Modular
    • Remember That The Web Is For Everyone

    17:15 - CSS and JavaScript

    • Web Bloat That Affects The End User
    • Accessibility - Being Able To Work On Improvement
    • Accessibility Audit On Gutenberg
    • Being Too Heavily Focused On One Programming Language

    25:05 - The Notion of Development At Scale

    • The Google Hiring Process And Frameworks

    27:45 - Silos Of Technology

    31:10 - Complexity And/Or Simplicity

    • Focusing On Quality Over Volume
    • Factoring For Growth

    37:20 - Advocating For Vanilla JavaScript

    • Documentation
    • Unexpected Incidentals

    44:10 - Gradual Movement Of The Code Base

    45:30 - Using The Word “Just”

    49:30 - The Concept Of State

    52:45 - Use Of Static HTML

    53:40 - Do Companies Actually Build For The Web Like This

    • Netflix Page Loads With Vanilla JS
    • Happy Middle Ground

    58:05 - Summation Of Positives Of Vanilla JavaScript

    • Ease Of Beginner Developer Onboarding
    • Allowing Non-JavaScript Developers To Participate More Meaningfully In Your Process
    • Overall Resilience And Performance For The End User

    Reflections:

    Rein: Pick the thing that reduces your suffering the most.

    Jacob: If you are just starting to learn JavaScript, it is ok to not learn a framework immediately. It is also ok to dive into something else and come back to learn vanilla JS. Also, Noel Rappin - Modern Front-End Development for Rails, takes a great approach to using differing technologies and what they can bring to your project.

    Chris: Thinking about the instances where it does make sense to use some of these tools as opposed to reasons why you shouldn’t use them. Liked the talk about minimizing your pain.
    If you feel like there are too many moving parts to JavaScript, you are not alone, it’s not you, and you’ve totally got this.

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    169: Career Elbows Feb 12, 2020
    Show notes

    01:49 - Rein Talks About His Recent Career Transition From Being a Consultant to a Full-Time Employee

    03:52 - Jamey Talks About the Decision to Leave Their Job

    • Making The Decision To Leave Your Comfort Zone

    05:34 - Pros and Cons of Staying for Job Stability and Comfort

    • Learned Helplessness
    • Being a Part of a System
    • Don’t Be The Smartest Person in The Room
    • Shared Space

    13:20 - Resilience and Regulatory Mechanisms

    • Dr. Richard Cook - REdeploy 2019 Talk

    15:59 - Interviews

    • Watching Interviewers’ Reactions to Challenging Their Questions
    • Gerald Weinberg - Secrets of Consulting
    • Most of the Things We Do Have No Effect Whatsoever in the Larger System

    20:20 - Job Success and Effort

    22:22 - Safety and Resilience

    • Aviation and Tech
    • Kubernetes
    • David Woods - Resilience is a Verb

    26:05 - Interview Anxiety

    • Who You Know
    • Group Bias

    30:25 - Team Creating/Building

    • Assuming Competence
    • Consideration of New Team Members
    • Dealing With Change After Being Comfortable
    • Sidney Dekker - Understanding Human Error

    38:04 - Feeling Comfortable in Tech

    • Privileges of Being in the Field
    • Switching Career Paths

    47:20 - Visualize How You Will Feel Working Somewhere

    • Analytical vs. Emotional Decision Making

    50:08 - No One in Tech is an Expert in Human Performance - Interviewing

    • Ask Questions of the Interviewer
    • Being the One That Gets to Make the Decision
    • Avdi on the Interview Process - We Should be Able to Speak Up

    58:25 - Discovering How to Make Better Systems

    • Tell More Stories

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