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[S2/E43] NagelBOOCH and Ironfire Brewing Company Oct 27, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 43 – This week, our good friend John Ryti joins us and he brought some killer brew from Ironfire Brewing Company in Temecula, California.

This week’s episode is sort of a mixed bag. A little bit of homebrew, some macro beer, some kettle sours, and some IPA. Nothing wrong with mixing it up, right?

nagelBOOCH Kombucha

We’re kicking off the show with some home-brewed kombucha by Mr. Nagel. If you’ve never heard of kombucha, it’s basically fermented tea. It usually has a funky aroma with a sometimes fruity and tart taste. It’s very low in alcohol, and is loaded with many of the same microbial thingies you’d find in yogurt. I also hear it’s great for hangovers…just sayin’.

If you’re interested in making your own batch of ‘booch, Kombucha Brooklyn sells an inexpensive kit that comes with everything you need to get started.

Guinness Nitro IPA

Next, we’re going to the dark side, or, the light side, in Guinness’ case. Guinness recently announced their Nitro IPA. Yep. IPA, in a can, on nitrogen gas. We’re fans of Guinness so we thought we’d give it a shot. Spoiler alert: The beer is a bit bland overall, but not bad, which is better than what we expected. Get it now while it’s fresh if you want to try it.

Ironfire Brewing Company

Our good friend, John Ryti is back on the show with us for the next few episodes, and he brought some beers from a great brewery based in Temecula, California, Ironfire Brewing Company. Ironfire just released their first two kettle-soured beers named, Sex and Violence, and Fast and Loose. Kettle-souring beers seems to be all the rage right now (kettle sours are the new session IPA…), and for good reason. They’re relatively easy to produce, and they won’t infect your brewhouse, since the wort is being boiled after the bacteria has “soured” it. Ironfire takes kettle souring to a new level by aging it in barrels and adding fruit. All the yums.

We finish up with a beer more in line with what Ironfire is known for, a tasty double IPA called Dead on Arrival.

Big thanks to Ryti for hanging out and bringing the brews!

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Guiness Nitro IPA IronFire Brewing Company: Sex and Violence IronFire Brewing Company: Fast and Loose IronFire Brewing Company: Dead on Arrival

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[S2/E42] Four Brewers Mess With Texas Oct 19, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 42 – This week, the boys are headin’ to Texas.

Jason tends to travel quite a bit for work. One of the fringe benefits is that he’s able to explore the local beer scene in whatever town he’s visiting. Jason was cool enough to bring some beers back from his recent trip to Texas. San Antonio, Texas, to be exact.

Texas Craft Beers

We’re starting with a classic Texas lager (which is now owned by Pabst Brewing Company) Lone Star Beer. While Jason brought this back as more of a gag, we find out that it’s actually pretty tasty.

One of the highlights of Jason’s trip was his visit to Jester King Brewery. Color Matt extremely jealous. Jason talks about the brewery and some of the beers he tried while he was there. He even brought back a bottle of Vulgar Affectation for us to try on the show.

Yo Soy Un Berliñer

Big thanks to Jason for bringing back the brew. A trip to Texas may be in order for all of us, soon…

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Pabst Brewing Company: Lone Star Beer Freetail Brewing: Yo Soy Un Berliner 5 Stones Artisan Brewery: Barrel Reserve Spanish Monk Lone Pint Brewery: Yellow Rose Buffalo Bayou Brewing Co.: Figaro, Figaro Figaro Fiiigarrro!Jester King Brewery: Vulgar Affectation

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[S2/E41] Sixpoint None The Richer Oct 13, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 41 – This week, beers from Sixpoint Brewery, a super-yummy hoppy pale ale from our local friends, Wicks Brewing Company, sprinkles of Almanac Brewing Company’s Citra Sour, and some in-depth homebrew discussion on Quad recipe formulation.

This week on the show, we’re taking a trip to Brooklyn, New York (we’re not really there, duh) to get some of that sweet Sixpoint Brewery action!

Wicks Brewing Company – Paladin Pale Ale

But first, we start with a new segment on the show, the 4B Mailbag! To accompany the Mailbag segment, we’re drinking a delicious beer from a local favorite of ours, and many in the Inland Empire of southern California, Wicks Brewing Company’s Paladin Pale Ale. This beer is Wicks’ first official bottle release that has made its way to shelves, and it’s superb. A super-hoppy and danky pale ale that has the punch of an IPA with the ABV of a pale ale. This is no session ale, folks…it’s a pale ale, and it’s delicious.

Sixpoint Brewery Beers

Next up are the Sixpoint Brewery beers. Thanks to 4B friend and Patreoneer, Scott McElhone, we were able to get our hands on three six-packs of Sixpoint brews that aren’t distributed in southern California. We’re trying to branch out, people!

First is The Crisp. John thinks this is one of the coolest beer names for a lager, and the beer inside of this Sixpoint brew does not fall short of its name. It’s quite tasty and damn near perfect.

Next is Sweet Action. We didn’t quite figure out what this beer was, exactly (turns out it’s a cream ale), but it did spur some conversation regarding guitars, bands, and Wayne’s World.

Finally is the much sought after Resin. For an east coast IPA, this beer delivers. We beer drinkers in California often criticize east coast IPA for its over the top malt character and seemingly lackluster hop profile. This beer is not that. It quite good and unique for the style. The malts are definitely there, but they take a middle seat to the wonderful hop profile. It’s a solid IPA that’s worthy of the hype that precedes it.

We wrap up the show with Citra Sour from Almanac Beer Co. while discussing possible beer recipes for a Quad that Greg wants to age in a rye whiskey barrel he acquired from Re:Find Distillery. Quadruple style beers can be difficult to brew. Barrel aging can also be quite difficult. We try to put it all in perspective.

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Wicks Brewing Co: Paladin Pale Ale Sixpoint Brewery: The Crisp Sixpoint Brewery: Sweet Action Sixpoint Brewery: Resin Almanac Beer Co.: Citra Sour

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[S2/E40] 2015 Great American Beer Festival Oct 05, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 40 – This week we’re drinking some GABF medal-winning beers.

Every year, beer drinkers from all over the United States and the world descend upon Denver, Colorado for the Great American Beer Festival. It’s one of the biggest beer festival we know of, and two of the Four Brewers got to attend this year.

2015 GABF Medal-Winning Beers

While the draw and the allure of GABF is the seemingly endless beers available to sample, many people and breweries especially focus on the awards on Saturday morning. Winning a bronze, silver and/or gold medal at GABF is quite prestigious to say the least. The panel of judges at the festival is comprised of the best brewers, beer drinkers, beer writers, and beer enthusiasts from all over the country. Winning a medal at GABF can really catapult a brewery into the stratosphere.

Southern California is no stranger to winning metal in Denver. Breweries like Pizza Port, Societe Brewing Company, Beachwood BBQ & Brewing, and countless others from SoCal have dominated in recent years. This year, SoCal took home many medals, even though the landscape of winners outside of California seemed to be much more diverse. This week, we’re focusing on some local breweries that took home some medals.

Taps Fish House and Brewery at GABF 2015

First up are two beers from local Orange County and Inland Empire superheroes, Taps Fish House and Brewery. They took home four medals, and also won Mid-Size Brewpub and Mid-Size Brewpub Brewer of the Year for their brewery located in Corona, California. Today, we’re drinking the bronze medal-winning Amend This! and silver medal-winning TAPS Kellerbier.

Bottle Logic Brewing Company at GABF 2015

Next up is a brewery that’s fairly new to SoCal but is already a favorite of many local craft beer drinkers, Bottle Logic Brewing from Anaheim, California. Bottle Logic scored two gold medals this year for their dark lager named Lagerithm, and their Baltic porter, Cobaltic Porter, and we’ve got them BOTH on the show. Hells. Yes.

Firestone Walker Brewing Company at GABF 2015

Firestone Walker Brewing Co. is definitely no stranger to the stage at GABF. FW really killed this year at the GABF awards, winning five medals and Mid-Size Brewing Company and Mid-Size Brewing Company Brewer of the Year. Thanks to Matt, we were able to get our hands on the bronze-medal winning Sour Opal.

21st Amendment Brewery at GABF

Next up is Toaster Pastry from 21st Amendment Brewery. This beer kinda took everyone by storm over the last month, and for good reason—it’s awesome! The hop aroma that comes from a freshly poured pint of this beer is just stellar. The whole room filled with the danky aroma that came from this beer as we opened them in the 4B studio. This beer won a silver medal at GABF, and now we know why. Damn, this is good! 21A took one more silver medal this year for their session beer, MCA. Well, done, 21A!

Ritual Brewing Company at GABF 2015

Last, but certainly not least is the new jewel of Inland Empire breweries, Ritual Brewing Company from Redlands, California. Ritual has always kind of flown under the radar, but their beers have always been spot on. The brewery is beautiful, and the folks at Ritual couldn’t be cooler people. They really deserved to win some metal this year. Ritual took home TWO gold medals this year for their imperial stout, Big Deluxe, and for the beer we have on the show today, their barleywine-style ale, Fat Hog.

The Great American Beer Festival was great this year. The Brewers Association expanded the available floor space for breweries and attendees, which made for even more beer to choose from and guaranteed that every brewery that wanted to attend, could attend. Our hats are off to the Brewers Association. Really, they did a superb job this year.

The complete list of medal winners and award winners at GABF this year can be found here. Hope to you next year!

GABF THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:

• Taps Fish House and Brewery: Amend This! and Kellerbier• Bottle Logic Brewing: Lagerithm and Cobaltic Porter• Firestone Walker Brewing Co.: Sour Opal• 21st Amendment Brewing Company: Toaster Pastry• Ritual Brewing Company: Fat Hog

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[S2/E39] Raiders of John's Cellar Sep 26, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 39 – Matt snuck into John’s cellar and helped himself to some great, and not-so-great cellar-aged beers.

If you’re a beer geek with a cellar, you’ve either been here, or will be here one day. You know what I’m talking about. You’re new to craft beer and you want to be able to break out a beer on a second’s notice to pair with food, bring to a bottle share, or simply enjoy with a friend while you Netflix and chill. Then it becomes more and more apparent that you either have a problem, are on to something awesome, or both.

Cellar Worthy? Perhaps…

This is where John’s cellar is at this very moment. While most of his cellar is comprised of beers that could easily trade for some of the best midwest whalez, there are those few outliers that look like they don’t quite belong. On the other hand, there are beers that look ripe for the picking. That’s what we’re doing today—invading John’s cellar. It’s for his own good.

We’re kicking off the show with three beers that in their prime, were pretty great beers. These beers represent the young craft beer bottle collector’s naivety and ambition to get anything in their cellar that looks the least bit “rare” or is hyped as such. Buy one fresh, lay one down. But do you really know why this beer is headed for the cellar, or does the beer just end up there?

Cellar Worthy and Ready to Enjoy!

The second part of the show reminds us these ultra-rare whalez that you’re storing in your cellar need to eventually be opened. While it’s fun to show off your six year-old bottles of beer, they may never fulfill their true destiny when they’re ready for consumption. Are you ever going to open that $25 bottle of beer, or are you just going to stare at it? Get busy living, or get busy dying.

Hopefully, you learned something from this week’s show. Build a cellar and stock it well, but don’t overindulge. Monitor your beers, and purge those that are needlessly suffering in their old age.

(That was kind of creepy.)

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Moo Brew: Dark Ale Mahr’s Bräu: Mastodon – The Hunter De Struise Brouwers: Black Albert Avery Brewing Company: Brabant Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project: Surette Reserva (Chardonnay Barrel Aged)Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project: Surette Reserva (Peach Whiskey Barrel Aged)

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[S2/E38] IPA? Nope. It's a Pale Ale. Sep 21, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 38 – This week, we’re still high on hops, but low on ABV. Hoppy pale ales are on deck.

While we all love IPA and their juicy hoppiness, drinking more than a couple can really take a toll on your soberness. Luckily, breweries everywhere are making hoppier-than-usual versions of pale ale, which by style are lower in alcohol than IPA. This week, we’re drinking some of the best hoppy pale ales we could get our hands on.

Off Color Brewing – Troublesome

To break in our palates, we’re starting with a wheat gose from Off Color Brewing called Troublesome. We’re big fans of the artwork for this beer, as well as the contents inside. We were able to pick this up locally in Costa Mesa, California, which is rad because this beer is great! The salt presence is very much subdued while the beer is crisp and clean. Good stuff.

Now to the pales. First up is Pseudo Sue from Toppling Goliath Brewery. This beer has a lot of hype behind it, and for good reason. This beer divided the room, mostly because of the hop character and lack of proper bitterness. But, we are being a bit hypercritical (hey, we’re a beer podcast), and all agree that it’s a great beer overall.

Hoppy Pale Ales

Next up is the citra hopped Zombie Dust from 3 Floyds Brewing Company. This beer is great, and very highly sought after. Greg is well known for not being a fan of the citra hop, but he love this beer. We all agree—it’s great.

Grunion from Ballast Point Brewing & Spirits is up next. We’re quite partial to this local SoCal brewery, and this beer is simply excellent. Its massive hop nose and clean, dry finish is reminiscent of and IPA with the alcohol content of a pale ale. Grunion and Zombie Dust are pretty much on the same level as far as quality and overall tastiness, which is great for us in SoCal, since we can’t get Zombie Dust locally.

Over-hopped pale ales are nothing new, but they seem to be popping up more and more lately. Freshness of a hoppy pale is of great importance, more so than IPA, due to its lower hopping rate and alcohol. As with IPA, find the freshest possible batch before purchasing.

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Off Color Brewing: Troublesome Toppling Goliath Brewing: pseudo Sue 3 Floyds Brewing Company: Zombie Dust Ballast Point Brewing & Spirits: Grunion

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[S2/E37] Litres of Oktoberfest Sep 14, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 37 – This week, we’re drinking a hell-of-a-lot of Oktoberfest and Märzen style beers. Prost!

It’s that time of year again…Oktoberfest! This year, we’re not fucking around. While there are many, many interpretations of “Octoberfest” beers out there, we decided to find as many as locally possible and just go for it.

Oktoberfest Beers

This week, we’re drinking 14 different Oktoberfest and Märzen-style beers from around the country and from Germany itself. While not all of them can be considered official “Oktoberfest” labeled beers, they all are brewed to celebrate than annual German tradition that is Oktoberfest. This year, Oktoberfest runs from September 19 thru October 4 in Munich, Bavaria, Germany.

We’re not going to spend any time on this post…there are 14 friggin’ beers on the show this week. Grab your dimpled mug and drink along.

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Gordon Biersch Brewing: Märzen Staatliches Hofbräuhaus München: Hofbräu Oktoberfestbier Paulaner Gruppe: Oktoberfest Märzen (USA Only)Spaten-Franziskaner-Löwenbräu-Gruppe: Spaten Oktoberfestbier / Oktoberfest Ur-Märzen Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.: Oktoberfest – Brauhaus Riegele (2015)Abita Brewing Company: Octoberfest Bayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan: Weihenstephaner Festbier Schlenkerla Heller-Bräu Trum: Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier – Märzen Warsteiner: Oktoberfest Special Edition Hangar 24 Craft Brewery: Oktoberfest Fall Lager Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams): Samuel Adams OctoberFest Spoetzl Brewery: Shiner Oktoberfest Left Hand Brewing Company: Oktoberfest Ninkasi Brewing Company: Oktoberfest Festbier Lager

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[S2/E36] It's Another IPA Show! Sep 08, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 36 – This week on the show, a plethora of IPA, and some tasty beers from our buddy, Phil.

This week, were drinking the OC Brew HAHA South County IPA, as well as IPA from SoCal and Athens, Georgia. And just for the fun of it, we’re throwing in a Berliner Weisse as well.

We kick off the show with with two beers from friend of the show and Patreoneer, Phil Lorezini. Phil is currently living in Florida, and was kind enough to send us some beer from Creature Comforts Brewing Company out of Athens, Georgia. To get things going, we open Athena, a delicious and spot-on Berliner Weisse. It’s tart and refreshing with just enough of that acidic bite to take it over the top. Berliner Weisse can be a complicated beer to make, even though it’s quite delicate and simple. Achieving the proper level of tart and funk is the sign of a great Berliner Weisse. Athena doesn’t disappoint.

IPA and a Berliner Weisse.

Now to the IPA! Keeping with Creature Comforts, we open the Tropicália IPA. Creature Comforts aptly summarizes this beer as “a ripe and juicy balanced American IPA”. It’s brewed with Citra, Centennial, and Glaxay hops. The beer finishes dry enough to pass for a west coast IPA while having a malt profile similar to an east coast IPA. It really is a nice balance of malt and hops, and not an overpowering, bitter malt bomb like many east coast IPAs tend to be. The east coast is slowly coming around to that west coast-style IPA radness, y’all.

Next up is the OC Brew HAHA South County IPA. This beer was brewed in collaboration with Cameron Collins, founder of the OC Brew HAHA, Left Coast Brewing Co., Artifex Brewing Company, and Pizza Port San Clemente. The “south county” part of the name refers to south Orange County, which is where these three breweries hail from. Nagel recently did a write up on the beer for Orange Coast Magazine that sums it up pretty well. One thing that stood out to him was a mouth numbing affect the hops seemed to have on him, which is kinda weird and hard to pinpoint why. It’s a deliciously hoppy beer that’s well executed. You can try it at the OC Brew HAHA which is this Saturday! Get your tickets before they sell out…

Speaking of Pizza Port San Clemente, the next beer up is their Mango IPA, Lono. This beer smells and tastes like a freakin’ mango. It’s delicious. Pizza Port San Clemente utilizes step mashing in their beers (which could be a reason why they’re beers are so great), leading us into a discussion on the importance of step mashing and if it’s something that actually makes a difference in certain styles of beer.

We wrap up the show with a beer from Barley Forge Brewing Company, One Louder. We’ve had this beer on the show before and it was great, so why not have it again? Barley Forge also utilizes step mashing, and their beers are awesome. Maybe we’re seeing a pattern here?

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Creature Comforts Brewing Company: Athena Creature Comforts Brewing Company: Tropicália Left Coast / Artifex / Pizza Port San Clemente: South County IPA Pizza Port: Lono (Mango IPA) (San Clemente)Barley Forge Brewing Co.: One Louder

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[S2/E35] The w00tstout Vertical Aug 30, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 35 – This week, we’re drinking three vintages of the Stone Brewing Co. collaboration beer, w00tstout.

This week on the show, we’re drinking three vintages of the Drew Curtis/Wil Wheaton/Greg Koch Stone Farking Wheaton w00tstout, or as it’s generally known, w00tstout. It’s origins were inspired by the touring variety show known as w00tstock, which was created by Wil Wheaton, Adam Savage, and the group Paul and Storm. w00tstout is a collaboration between Stone Brewing Co. CEO Greg Koch, Wil Wheaton, and Fark.com creator, Drew Curtis.

Stone Brewing Co. – w00tstout

Stone Brewing Co. releases the beer annually during Hop-Con, an event held during the San Diego International Comic-Con. Two of the three vintages were designed by the collaborators mentioned above, with the exception of Stone w00tstout 2.0, which was a collaboration between Wil Wheaton, Drew Curtis, and Aisha Tyler.

All three vintages of w00tstout were partially bourbon barrel-aged and made with pecans, flaked rye malt, and wheat malt, while the 2014 Stone w00tstout 2.0 was made with the same ingredients as the 2013 Drew Curtis/Wil Wheaton/Greg Koch Stone Farking Wheaton w00tstout, but with the addition of cocoa. Whew!

Pizza Port Brewing Company – Pick Six Pilsner

We kick off the show with a warm up beer from Pizza Port Brewing Company named Pick Six, a hoppier-than-usual pilsner that has been a long time favorite of beer drinkers local to the San Diego beer scene. Pizza Port recently started canning some of their long-time legendary pub beers, and so far they’re all hits. This beer is deliciously perfect during these scorching SoCal summer days.

So, how did the two previous vintages w00tstout hold up in comparison the the latest 2015 release? Well, you’ll have to listen to the show to find out.

w00t THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Pizza Port Brewing Company: Pick Six Pilsner Stone Brewing Co.: Drew Curtis/Wil Wheaton/Greg Koch Stone Farking Wheaton w00tstout Stone Brewing Co.: Stone w00tstout 2.0 Stone Brewing Co.: Stone Farking Wheaton w00tstout (2015)

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[S2/E34] Breweries From Colorado Aug 24, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 34 – Natalie DeNicholas joins us for another round as we drink a variety of beers for the great state of Colorado.

This week, we’re going full Colorado. Six beers from four great CO breweries. It’s no secret that Colorado is a mecca of craft beer, and this week we’re honing in on some of our favorites.

Colorado Beers

We kick off the show with a couple of beers brought to us by friend of the show Enrique Leyva. He recently visited Colorado and brought some beers back for Matt. First up is Prost Brewing Company. Prost has only been on the scene for a few years, but their authentic German brews are spot on and delicious. If you’re ever in Denver for the Great American Beer Festival, you’re sure to see some beer celebs throwing back Pils at Prost.

Next up is a Life’s Trade from TRVE Brewing Company, “the most metal fucking brewery ever,” according to Matt. It’s a saison fermented in Puncheons, and it’s awesome. TRVE is a very small operation and they’ve recently announced plans for expansion.

Great Divide Brewing Company is next on deck with their 21st Anniversary sour ale. TL;DR we all think it needs more time in the bottle, which will allow the tart character to develop a bit more.

We finish the show with two beers from Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project that John has been storing in his cellar for a few years, Bourbon Barrel Cherry Origins, and Nightmare On Brett (Grand Cru). Our love for Crooked Stave runs deep, and these beers only reinforce our devotion.

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Prost Brewing Company: Pils Trve Brewing: Life’s Trade Great Divide Brewing Company: 21st Anniversary Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project: Bourbon Barrel Cherry Origins Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project: Nightmare On Brett (Grand Cru)

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