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    Four Brewers: Craft Beer and Homebrew

    Four Brewers is a weekly craft beer and homebrew podcast made up of four beer geeks who love beer and its community.

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    [S3/E11] Modern Times and Modem Tones Mar 15, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 11 – This week, Jason brought us so many beers from Modern Times…and it’s awesome.

    Get your Four Brewers “Metal Logo” shirt!Sales end Tuesday (3.15.16) evening!Available for a limited time: fourbrewers.com/metal

    Before we get into the beers, it should be known that Greg’s cask ale festival called “Firkfest” is going down on March 19, 2016 in Anaheim, California. We’ve been promoting this event for good reason—it’s a unique festival to Southern California, featuring 30 breweries and 50 cask beers, ranging from the more traditional cask conditioned beers to firkins with chocolate, peppers, or whatever else brewers want to add to their standard release and one-off beers. Get your tickets at firkfest.com.

    Bottle Logic Beers in Cans

    We’re drinking a lot of Modern Times beers on the show this week, 12 beers to be exact, which makes this show one of the longest 4B episodes yet. Jason is the resident Four Brewers Modem Tones super-fan, and he did not fail to deliver some Modem Whalez.

    …and These Modern Times Beers are in Bottles!

    Having 12 beers on one show makes it difficult to properly summarize the episode. Some of them are funky, some are hoppy, some are barrel-aged, and some are sour. Jason is a member of Modern Times’ “League of Partygoers and Elegant People” so naturally, he brought some good stuff.

    Modern Times is an all around great brewery. They have a great attitude toward beer, experimentation, and quality, and it shows in their beer. While they’ve had a few missteps here and there, their commitment to quality craft beer and their fans is unquestionably passionate.

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Modern Times Beer – LomalandModern Times Beer – Fortunate IslandsModern Times Beer – Fruitlands w/ ApricotsModern Times Beer – Blazing WorldModern Times Beer – City of the SunModern Times Beer – Black HouseModern Times Beer – Booming RollersModern Times Beer – OrdervilleModern Times Beer – City of the DeadModern Times Beer – HooloomoolooModern Times Beer – Palace of Paper SacksModern Times Beer – Monsters’ Park (Aged in Nicaraguan Rum Barrels w/ Rum Barrel-Aged Coffee)

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    [S3/E10] Getting Juicy With Bottle Logic, Part 2 Mar 07, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 10 – We’re back with part 2 of our visit to Bottle Logic Brewing in Anaheim, California, and this week, we’re saddling up some unicorns.

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    Before we get into the beers, it should be known that Greg’s cask ale festival called “Firkfest” is going down on March 19, 2016 in Anaheim, California. We’ve been promoting this event for good reason—it’s a unique festival to Southern California, featuring 30 breweries and 50 cask beers, ranginga from the more traditional cask conditioned beers to firkins with chocolate, peppers, or whatever else brewers want to add to their standard release and one-off beers. Get your tickets at firkfest.com.

    Barrels at Bottle Logic Brewing

    We kick off the show right where we left off with part 1, drinking some German Chocolate Cake. The beer lives up to its namesake, and we find out that this beer is also what runs through Nagel’s veins (he’s German…bad joke). This beer is served on both nitro and CO2 at Bottle Logic’s tasting room, which is a common practice of Bottle Logic. Good idea for those who don’t enjoy nitrogen infused brew.

    While we’re drinking this beer, we discuss the unique technique that Bottle Logic employs to add ingredients like cacao nibs, vanilla, and even wood to their beers while they’re still in the fermentor.

    Moar Barrels!

    Next up is a beer that has yet to be released, Bottle Logic’s brettanomyces brew, Some Assembly Required. The bottle we had on the show was midway through its bottle conditioning and a bit warm, so it was a bit explosive. This didn’t stop us from thoroughly enjoying the beer. Definitely a unicorn worth capturing when Bottle Logic releases it.

    Finally, the moment you’ve all been waiting for, a barrel sample of the renowned Bottle Logic barrel-aged stout, Fundamental Observation. This beer rocks! This was only a barrel sample we had on the show—it was flat and room temperature—and it was already amazing. F.O. is no hype-whale, it’s the real deal, from what we could taste, and this was only a single barrel sample. While enjoying this beer, we talk about how Bottle Logic designs a beer that is destined to be barrel-aged. It’s not as simple as making a stellar stout and throwing in a barrel.

    Big, BIG thanks to Wes and Brandon for having us at Bottle Logic. They’re off to a great start for a two year-old brewery, and we couldn’t be more proud to have them brewing their beer in Southern California.

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Bottle Logic Brewing – German Chocolate CakeBottle Logic Brewing – Some Assembly RequiredBottle Logic Brewing – Fundamental Observation, Barrel Sample

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    [S3/E9] Getting Juicy With Bottle Logic, Part 1 Feb 29, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 9 – This week, a last minute stop into Anaheim’s Bottle Logic Brewing ends with juicy beers, something tart, and gigaflops of hops.

    Get your Four Brewers “Metal Logo” shirt!Available for a limited time: fourbrewers.com/metal

    Before we get into the beers, it should be known that Greg’s cask ale festival called “Firkfest” is going down on March 19, 2016 in Anaheim, California. We’ve been promoting this event for good reason—it’s a unique festival to Southern California, featuring 30 breweries and 50 cask beers, ranging from the more traditional cask conditioned beers to firkins with chocolate, peppers, or whatever else brewers want to add to their standard release and one-off beers. Get your tickets at firkfest.com.

    Beers From Bottle Logic Brewing

    Shooting each other in the junk with laser beams sounded like fun at the time, but drinking Bottle Logic Brewing beers in their barrel room seemed like a better idea. Speaking of shooting each other in the junk with lasers, it turns out that She Shot First with galaxy, citra and centennial in our gaping, carbonite mouths. Although hoppy wheats may be known for their modern unfortunate landmass times, this beer was birthed on the homestove of Bottle Logic Master Brewer Wes Parker. “Juicy,” says Four Brewers’ Jason Harris, otherwise known as Internet’s Golden Brett, in a nasally, high-pitched voice.

    Zerø Day juices our mouths with Vermont-style IPA cloud beer. Juice profiles are dialed in, maximum hoppage is achieved, targets are hit, and montages are played with sweaty Bottle Logic brewers listening to “I Need a Hero.” The beer looks like a yellow pair of Juicy Couture sweat pants got dipped in freshly dry hopped beer and wrung out into pint glasses. But, oh if it ain’t juicy and supremely delicious.

    Wes Parker, Brewmaster at Bottle Logic

    Berliner Equation w/ Blueberries is next. It’s kettle soured and bursting with fruit. 350 pounds of berries tie our tongues into a quadratic equation, nearly turning us into Violet Beauregarde. Thankfully, we got rolled to the juicing room for squeezing, doopity doo.

    Expansion for sour beer? Yes! Bottle Logic is creating a sour/brett beer facility. Oh, and spoiler alert.

    Recursion 8.0 is next. This IPA is surprising software, with 2.5 hexadecimal pounds of dry hop per gigabarrel. Dank.exe is compiled with no bugs. Pee.bat is called.

    We wrap up part 1 of the Bottle Logic visit with medal-winning Cobaltic Porter. Details are then leaked about their anniversary Week of Logic: Hint: it’s space themed.

    Stay tuned for part 2 of our visit to Bottle Logic next week, S2/E10.

    Photos from our session at Bottle Logic: https://flic.kr/s/aHskvfBkxw

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Bottle Logic Brewing – She Shot FirstBottle Logic Brewing – Zerø DayBottle Logic Brewing – Berlinear Equation w/ BlueberriesBottle Logic Brewing – Recursion 8.0Bottle Logic Brewing – Cobaltic Porter

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    [S3/E8] Working The Night Shift Feb 22, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 8 – This week, beers from Night Shift Brewing and Perennial Artisan Ales.

    This week, Nagel brought the pain with SoCal rarities from Perennial Artisan Ales and Night Shift Brewing.

    Before we get into the beers, it should be known that Greg’s cask ale festival called “Firkfest” is going down on March 19, 2016 in Anaheim, California. We’ve been promoting this event for good reason—it’s a unique festival to Southern California, featuring 50 breweries and 30 cask beers, ranging from the more traditional cask conditioned beers to firkins with chocolate, peppers, or whatever else brewers want to add to their standard release and one-off beers. Get your tickets at firkfest.com.

    Excellent Brews from Perennial and Night Shift.

    First up on the show this week is a brew from Night Shift Brewing, a gose made with oysters. Oysters are more commonly used in stouts to add a salty, briny/dry character. In this case, they were added during the boil of the gose, which is a beer style that is inherently salty. Adding the brine character from oysters is a natural fit for the gose style of beer.

    Next up is another gose made by Perennial Artisan Ales, but this one goes (oh, words) in a different direction. This beer also has a tart, salty quality, but is made with lemon peel and orange peel, along with a healthy dose of key lime juice. This beer is great—a true summer seeeper.

    We wrap up with two more Night Shift beers, Ever Weisse (radness) and Maracuya. Night Shift is reminiscent of The Bruery in terms of their curious exploration and their quality execution of unusual beer styles. At the same time, Perennial is also kicking ass and taking names. We can get Perennial in SoCal right now, but Night Shift would be a welcome addition…just saying’.

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Perennial Artisan Ales – Suburban BeverageNight Shift Brewing – HarborsideNight Shift Brewing – Ever WeisseNight Shift Brewing – Maracuya

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    [S3/E7] The Messenger Brought Us Homebrew Whalez Feb 14, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 7 – This week, homebrew from Four Brewers listener Michael Kirshner, and The Messenger from Noble Ale Works and Three Weavers Brewing Company.

    Can homebrews be whalez? This is the question that Four Brewers listener, Michael Kirshner, proposed to us in an email a few weeks ago. Personally speaking, I’ve definitely wanted to spear a few local homebrew whalez that have become legendary over the years, so yes, homebrew can indeed venture into the “whalez” territory.

    Thar Be Whalez!

    Michael was kind enough to send us some of his homebrew for the show this week and suffice to say, they are pretty over the top, as far as homebrew goes. The first beer up is a Flanders Red that was aged in a second use Buffalo Trace Barrel for five freakin’ years! What?! That’s some commitment.

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    Next up is quad that was brewed in March of 2014. This beer is a crowd favorite according to Mike, and rightly so. It’s delicious!

    The last beer from Michael is a Russian imperial stout made with oats and lactose sugar that was brewed in November of 2014 and aged for six months in a fresh Four Roses barrel. Michael wasn’t lying when he told us he was sending whalez…thar she blows!

    The Messenger

    We wrap up the show with an awesome collaboration beer between two stellar southern California breweries, Noble Ale Works and Three Weavers Brewing Company called, The Messenger. This beer was first brewed early in 2014. The Messenger is a seasonal release IPA coming in at 7.3% ABV, made with Weyermann pilsner malt and dry hopped with Pacific Jade, El Dorado, and HBC 342 hops. The bottle we have on the show this week was made with Buddha’s Hand and Yuzu to really give it a fruity, tropical zing.

    Thanks again to Michael Kirshner for the beers!

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Noble Ale Works / Three Weavers Brewing Company – The Messenger IPA (w/ Yuzu And Buddha’s Hand)

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    [S3/E6] [Insert Clever Surly Brewing Company Podcast Title Here] Feb 08, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 6 – This week, ALL SURLY BREWING COMPANY BEERS. Well, most of them. OK, eight of them.

    This week, we’ve got seven beers from Surly Brewing Company that were sent to us by a gracious Four Brewers listener, as well as a super-whale from John’s cellar, a 2010 vintage Darkness. Hell. YES.

    Surly Brewing Company

    Surly Brewing makes great beer, hands down. The problem is, they don’t distribute very far outside of their home state of Minnesota. Granted, we have no shortage of great beer here in California, but Surly would definitely be a welcome addition.

    We have a variety of their canned brews, ranging from lager, to brown ale, to IPA. Surly has their own unique style and attitude. They know their way around a brew house, for sure. They’re also fans of John’s favorite ingredient, oats. It’s used in a lot of their beers.

    Surly Brewing Company’s Darkness (2010)

    As the show progresses, Surly’s Russian imperial stout, Darkness, eventually comes up in the discussion. It just so happens that John has two bottles of the 2010 vintage in his beer cellar, one of which was kept refrigerated for the last few years. This is important because keeping a beer cold tends to preserve it longer and lock in flavors. Jason and Matt recently had the 2010 Darkness at a bottle share, and said the beer was past its prime. How is it holding up? Listen and find out!

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Surly Brewing Company – HellSurly Brewing Company – Bitter BrewerSurly Brewing Company – CynicAleSurly Brewing Company – Coffee BenderSurly Brewing Company – FuriousSurly Brewing Company – OverRatedSurly Brewing Company – Abrasive AleSurly Brewing Company – Darkness (2010)

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    [S3/E5] Ten Times the Sierra Nevada Feb 01, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 5 – This week, we’re drinking ten different beers form Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.

    This week, it’s all about Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.. For over 30 years, they’ve been innovators in the craft beer movement in America, producing some the most ubiquitous beers on the market.

    We have ten different beers on the show this week from Sierra Nevada. While that may sound like a lot (well, it is for this little podcast), it’s actually just a cross section of the many brews they make. We’re covering everything from their more recent release, Nooner Pilsner, to the classic and well-known Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.

    Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. Beers

    Sierra Nevada is also no stranger to barrel-aging beers and collaboration brews. Two of their abbey collaboration beers are on the show this week, along with barrel-aged variants of their Bigfoot Barleywine-Style Ale and Narwhal Imperial Stout.

    Sierra Nevada brews all of their beers with whole cone hops. If you’re not familiar with the brewing process, most breweries use compressed hop pellets in their beers. Pellets are easier to work with, easier to store, and retain their freshness longer than whole cone hops. Using whole cone hops requires a different kind of brewhouse and they also impart different qualities. These whole cone hops and Sierra Nevada’s “Chico Yeast” house strain give their hoppy pales and IPAs a unique touch that screams “Sierra Nevada!”

    Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. Collaboration and Barrel-Aged Beers

    Sierra Nevada’s beers are widely available. If haven’t had a lot from them, pick up a few different beers and give them a shot…maybe with a Torpedo? hahah—yeah, no.

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Pale AleSierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Nooner PilsnerSierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Otra VezSierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Torpedo Extra IPASierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Beer Camp Tropical IPA (2016)Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Ovila Abbey Saison (w/ Mandarin Oranges and Peppercorns)Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Ovila Abbey Golden w/ PomegranateSierra Nevada Brewing Co. – BigfootSierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Barrel-Aged Bigfoot Barleywine-Style Ale (2015)Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Barrel-Aged Narwhal Imperial Stout

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    [S3/E4] Glasswhalez: Style-Specific Beer Glassware Jan 24, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 4 – Does the shape and size of a glass really affect a beer’s characteristics? This week, we try to find out for ourselves.

    Does glassware make a difference when it comes to truly enjoying a craft beer? Glasses designed for more traditional beer styles have been around for a long time and it’s believed that they enhance certain characteristics of the beers that are consumed from them. Seasoned beer drinkers know that drinking a beer out of a glass is an overall better experience when compared to drinking straight from the bottle, even if it’s a standard “shaker” glass that brewers tend to despise. Well known beer establishments still serve beer in shaker glasses, despite the claims that the physical shape of the glass is doing a disservice to the beer inside of it.

    Style-Specific Beer Glassware

    Recently, beer glassware has reached a new level. IPA, stout, and even American wheat beers can now be served in style-specific glassware that supposedly enhances their qualities and nuances in certain ways. This week, we’re putting these glasses to the test.

    Disclaimer: all four of us on the show believe glassware affects beer perception. We tend to use the Libbey 3807 Belgian-style beer glass as our daily driver for consuming beer. Generally speaking, it’s a suitable glass for a wide variety of beers.

    Tattoo: Jesse Friedman of Almanac Beer Co. – NO SHAKER GLASSES

    This week, we’ve got four different glasses that were designed for four different beer styles: a pilsner glass, a hefeweizen glass, a stout glass, and an IPA glass. The manufacturers of each glass claim that they are designed to make the specific style of beer that’s inside the glass shine in different ways. Are the claims true? Is there a science to “proper” glassware?

    Perhaps (of course there is…)!

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Pivo PilsSpaten-Franziskaner-Löwenbräu-Gruppe – Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier NaturtrübFirestone Walker Brewing Company – Velvet MerlinStone Brewing Co. – Stone Unfiltered Enjoy By 02.14.16

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    [S3/E3] I Once Was Lost, But Now I'm Founders Jan 19, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 3 – This week, beers from Founders Brewing Co., and Going In Blind with Matt.

    Michigan. More great beer from Michigan.

    Founders Brewing Co. is finally available in southern California, and we’re pretty stoked about it. Founders is a well known brewery among craft beer drinkers, brewing everything from hoppy IPAs to delicious, highly sought after bourbon barrel-aged stouts. Getting our hands on their beers proved to be quite the difficult task in the past, but not anymore. This week on the show, we’re sampling a bit of each.

    Founders Brewing Co.

    We always seemed to find a way to get our hands on a few of their beers before they were available here by means of trading, which was kind of a pain in the ass. How rad is it that we’ll now be able to go to our local bottle shop and get it right off the shelf?! So. Rad.

    Having Founders Brewing Co. beers on the show this week is a milestone that we are thrilled to arrive at. Huge thanks go out to Ze Beer Guy for getting these beers to us. He’s one of Founders’ newest sales reps here in southern California, and is well known in the beer geek community. He is the MAN!

    One beer that we didn’t feature in this episode was Founders’ Project PAM. We drank the beer and recorded the conversation, but it’s only going to be available to supporters of 4B on Patreon and PayPal. Consider supporting the show if you’d like access to bonus stuff and free 4B merchandise.

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Founders Brewing Co. – All Day IPAFounders Brewing Co. – Centennial IPAFounders Brewing Co. – Dirty BastardFounders Brewing Co. – PorterFounders Brewing Co. – Kentucky Breakfast Stout (KBS)

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    [S3/E2] For Whom the Bell's Toll Jan 11, 2016
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    Season 3, Episode 2 – This week, it’s all Bell’s Brewery.

    What’s that I hear? A bell? A tolling bell?

    This week on the show, we’re drinking NINE different beers from Bell’s Brewery. For us in SoCal, that’s pretty awesome, considering they just recently added distribution to southern California (May, 2014) and we were able to buy all of these beers in our local bottle shops.

    Bell’s Brewery Beers

    Fuck. Yeah.

    It would be quite tedious and redundant to go through and give a summary of every beer on the show this week, so I’m not going to do it. We tried to stick with more of the mainstream stuff from Bell’s that anyone could pickup in their area, if available (Saturn being the exception. That’s from Jason).

    Bell’s Brewery has been around for a long time, 30+ years, in fact. It’s safe to say that they know how to make great beer that’s unique to them, in more ways than one.

    Shout out to listener Dave V. for the email that inspired this show. Cheers, brother.

    BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

    Beers from this week’s episode:Bell’s Brewery – Two Hearted AleBell’s Brewery – Winter White AleBell’s Brewery – Oberon AleBell’s Brewery – Oarsman AleBell’s Brewery – Expedition StoutBell’s Brewery – Special Double Cream StoutBell’s Brewery – Java StoutBell’s Brewery – Saturn: The Bringer of Old Age (Planets Series)Bell’s Brewery – 30th Anniversary Ale

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