Finding the Throughline with Kate Hanley

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[Leigh Medeiros, Part 2]: A hilarious–and relatable–story about second-guessing your work + the pep talk for making art I didn’t know I needed Ep 1036 Jan 31, 2024

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Why it’s crucial that you share your work without disclaiming it

The screenplay she almost gave up on because her inner critic was going bananas—a hilarious and so relatable story

Why it matters that you pursue your art (prepare to shed a tear or two)

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[Leigh Medeiros, Part 1]: The power of figuring out your own Venn diagram of interests + some pretty awesome attention hacks Ep 1035 Jan 29, 2024

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Lee Medeiros is an award-winning screenwriter, author, and all-around creative who, when she isn't making her own work, is helping others make theirs. Leigh is the author of the One Minute Writer, 396 Micro Prompts to Spark Creativity and Recharge Your Writing. She also writes a column for Script Magazine called The Climate Screenwriter, is the co-producer of the Writing Climate Pitch Fest, and founded the Linden Place Writer's Residency in Bristol, Rhode Island.

I am lucky enough to know Leigh in person, and every time I see her, I feel like my batteries get recharged and I just wanna give her a huge hug and take in every word that she says, like manna from heaven.

In this first part of her interview, we unpack:

How screenwriting is like a bad boyfriend

How her focus on writing screenplays with a climate angle is the perfect intersection of her personal Venn diagram

Using fellowships to spur new ideas (whether you actually get them or not)

The podcasts that lit a fire under Leigh’s butt to start writing about climate

How “merging your siloes” uplevels your work and your being

Leigh’s morning cacao ceremony and the unexpected beings she shares it with

The hacks she uses to stay focused when actually trying to, you know, write

Superheroes have capes–writers should have a talisman, too

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[Tracey Lewis-Giggets: What's next]: The bittersweet healing of parenting + thinking about legacy + learning from Toni Morrison Ep1034 Jan 26, 2024

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In the final installment of my interview with Tracey Michae'l Lewis-Giggets, we talk about her most delightful visions of the future, who inspires her, and what she's staying up too late reading (or in this case, listening to).

My biggest takeaway was how Tracey focuses on one primary topic--joy--but then spins it in to a lot of different directions, and how that helps her a) create a meaningful legacy but b) also means she doesn't get bored.

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[Tracey Lewis-Giggets, Inner Stuff]: Dealing with inner meanies and acknowledging the gifts of rejection Ep1033 Jan 24, 2024

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In part two of my interview with Tracey Michae'l Lewis-Giggets, award-winning author of 21 books, including "Black Joy" and "Then They Came for Mine," we plumb the depths of her mind, including:

- What's it like to be writing for a larger audience--the good and the bad parts

- The things her inner critic loves to tell her

- What's it like to be writing for a larger audience--the good and the bad parts

- The deeper meaning of rejection

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[Tracey Lewis-Giggets, Practical Matters]: The rules she once taught that now breaks + a writing hack for when the words won't flow Ep 1032 Jan 22, 2024

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Tracey Michae'l Lewis-Giggets is the author of 21 BOOKS, Y'ALL--more than one of them have won awards, including her two most recent: "Black Joy" and "Then They Came for Mine." In this episode, Tracey shares a ton of particulars, or what she called before we started recording her "cheat codes":

- How considering herself a storyteller instead of a memoirist or novelist helps her find her way along her throughline

- How her experience as an English professor shapes her writing practice today (and what advice she gives her student that she no longer observes)

- What walking has to do with creativity

- The specifics of her morning routine

- The exact tools she uses to help her "open up to the page" (I definitely learned some things that I'm gonna be trying!)

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[Sari Botton: What's next]: The magic combination of reverence and irreverence. Ep 1031 Jan 19, 2024

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In the final installment of my interview with generous and prolific writing goddess Sari Botton (she publishes Oldster Magazine, Memoir Land, and Adventures in Journalism on Substack, authored And You May Find Yourself: Confessions of a Late-Blooming Gen X Weirdo, Goodbye to All That, and Never Can Say Goodbye, and was the essays editor at Longreads), we talk about what's coming up next for her, as well as her favorite shows, books, songs, time, and food.

- What projects she’s dreaming about creating next

- The two things she knows she needs to shift (including a great tip for folks with Sephardic Jewish heritage!)

- Plus, Sari’s favorite show, the last book she devoured, her go-to karaoke song, and her ideal dinner (hint: it’s shellfish heavy)

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[Sari Botton, Inner Stuff]: Bucket lists, the subconscious desire for permission, and clogs. Ep 1030 Jan 17, 2024

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In part two of my interview with Sari Botton, founder of Oldster Magazine and author of And You May Find Yourself: Confessions of a Gen X Weirdo, we dive deep into the inner stuff, including:

- Her favorite part of sharing her work with the world

- How she navigates the ethics of including other people in her personal writing

- How her inner critic loves to tell her she doesn’t haven’t permission to write about what she wants to write about—and how she gets past it

- How getting older, and developing arthritis, is making her re-think some things, including her beloved wooden clog collection

- Her personal role models

- That thing that just won’t remove itself from Sari’s bucket list, even though she’s trying to move past it

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[Sari Botton, Practical Matters]: The power of curiosity, offhand comments, and writing stuff you've already done on your to-do list. Ep 1029 Jan 15, 2024

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[Sari Botton, Practical Matters]: The power of curiosity, offhand comments, and writing stuff you've already done on your to-do list

This seed of the idea for Finding the Throughline: Conversations about the Creative Process, was first dropped by Sari Botton in her Substack publication Oldster Magazine—specifically, it was her Oldster Magazine Questionnaire, in which she asks creatives of all ages to answer the same dozen or so questions about what it means to grow older.

I’m telling you, each time a new Oldster questionnaire lands in my inbox I drop everything and read it immediately. I love that even though I rarely know of the person who is answering the question (although sometimes I do—she’s interviewed Elizabeth Gilbert and Neko Case, for instance), I am moved, enlightened, provoked, and delighted by their answers.

Sari had to be my first interview, she just had to be. And thankfully, she responded with an enthusiastic yes within just a few minutes of my asking her to come on.

In this episode, Sari spills the beans on the practical parts of her process, including:

- The continuing ed class she took as a 20-something that lead to her personal writing career

- The thing her uncle told her when she was 10 that sparked a lifelong fascination with growing older

- Why she loves Substack—as both a writer and a reader

- The thing about trusting your instincts that Shalom Auslander first told her in 2010 that it took her 10+ years to believe

- The incredible power of writing annoying, non-work stuff down on your to-do list (even if you’re already done it)

- What she does to cheer herself up and clear her head

- Her morning routine (including what exactly goes in her mug)

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Out with the Old, In with the New (A Eulogy and a Look Ahead) Ep 1028 Jan 10, 2024

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You may have noticed, I have been rebroadcasting old episodes of How to Be a Better Person since May. I want to tell you a little bit about what’s been going on.

Here's the Cliffs Notes version: I'm ending How to Be a Better Person. And starting a new show--which will appear here, in this same feed, starting January 15th--called Finding the Throughline. Why? Well, a mid-life crisis had something to do with it. You'll have to listen for the full story.

I want to thank you for being a listener of How to Be a Better Person. It has been such an honor and a privilege to connect with you here, in this space. We got through the pandemic together--as well as over 1,000 episodes and 1 million downloads.

It’s not often easy to be a person in this world who gives a shit about being a better human, and it gives me so much hope to know how many of you care.

In addition to feeling proud, I’m nervous, and a little sad, as well as excited and ready to find out where the throughline is leading me—and all of us--next. But really this is all any of us can do—do what’s calling to us until that call shifts.

Listen to the Finding the Throughline trailer here.

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[Things to Do Less]: Honey, You Don’t Need Fixing, Ep 1027 Dec 29, 2023

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That might seem like a mixed message, coming from a podcast called How to Be a Better Person. Just to be clear, I don’t want you to be a different person. Just to help you be that version of yourself that you know is in there, and that can get overlooked when we’re busy, or stressed, or distracted. It’s not fixing we’re after here. It’s remembering. And growing. And neither of those things are possible when you're focusing on the flaws you want to make go away.

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